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In this episode, we discuss Cody's reception at WWE Crown Jewel. What are his plans for Survivor Series? What is the Rock working on now?

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00:00Hey, yo, Pro Wrestling Podcast listeners, welcome to the show where we don't sing it,
00:04we bring it, help us out, click subscribe to show your support.
00:09This episode, we're going to talk several things in the world of pro wrestling.
00:12We're going to talk about Julius Creed.
00:13We're going to talk about ESPN, their reaction to the WWE Disney Expanded Partnership.
00:19What's going on with The Rock right now?
00:21And what about Cody Rhodes?
00:23What are his plans for Survivor Series?
00:25What's going on with him when he was at Crown Jewel today?
00:27All this and more in this episode.
00:30Until we get to all that, listen to some tunes.
00:31I'll be right back with you.
00:36Pro Wrestling Podcast.
00:43Pro Wrestling Podcast.
00:46Pro Wrestling Podcast.
00:49What?
00:50What?
00:52What?
00:53What?
00:53What?
00:54I got a 141 and two-thirds chance of winning at Sacrifice.
00:59Woo!
01:01Pro Wrestling Podcast.
01:03That's God, it's my witness.
01:05He is broken in half.
01:06And you are just a buck-toothed netho baby who ate dog food for a weird old man.
01:13Yeah.
01:14Just when they think they got the answers, I change the questions.
01:19Can he do it?
01:21Cover.
01:22Oh, and a kick out.
01:24Unbelievable.
01:25I will never repair.
01:28Turned too hot to handle and too cold to hold.
01:32And I am a macho-filling savage.
01:36Shut your mouth, you thong-wearing fatty.
01:38It's me, Austin.
01:40Woo!
01:41Bang!
01:42Woo!
01:43Austin Podcast.
01:44Jacob 5-2 in all games.
01:48No breaks with it.
01:50Y'all are made.
01:525-2.
01:55Hey, you are.
01:57Hey, you are.
01:59I said WWE stands for.
02:02Rock and I am.
02:04Promotional consideration.
02:06Pay for by the following.
02:09Welcome back to the show.
02:11I am Dr. Fro.
02:12Thank you for taking some time out of what I am sure is your busy day to spend with us
02:17going through the wrestling news and rumors of the day.
02:19We've got a lot to talk about.
02:21Let's start with Cody Rhodes.
02:22Post-Crown Jewel had a conversation in the post-show media scrum or whatever you want to
02:28call that where he discussed his plans for Survivor Series.
02:33He made it clear that Rey Mysterio is the one who came up with the idea for a traditional
02:38five-on-five Survivor Series match pitting Team Mexico versus Team United States.
02:44And here's the deal.
02:45He said it very clear that Rey Mysterio.
02:47I don't know that we got this clarity the other night when they said this.
02:51He said Rey Mysterio is going to captain Team Mexico.
02:54Cody would like to captain Team USA.
02:57And I think it's a great idea.
02:59I really do.
02:59I don't think we've ever seen Cody and Rey, at least not in this version of Cody, maybe
03:04back when he was the dashing Cody thing when he had that feud with Rey.
03:08But since his return to WWE, he hasn't really shared the ring with Rey.
03:11It'd be great to see them get back in there and do some interesting stuff.
03:14It puts Rey Mysterio in a main event level match with John Cena and his team.
03:19I don't know who all would be on the teams.
03:21I would suspect with Rey Mysterio being the team captain, the other four would probably be
03:24Penta, Phoenix, Dragon Lee, and I don't know.
03:27So after that, maybe El Grande Americano, which I don't really love because he's not
03:32theoretically really Mexican, but whatever.
03:34And then on the flip side of things, you know, who's Cody going to put in there?
03:38And you would want people who are like super Americana.
03:40So probably Chad Gable.
03:42I think that makes a lot of sense.
03:44But after that, I mean, I don't know who you go to for your other like more U.S.-centric
03:48characters.
03:49We don't have a lot of those anymore.
03:51And I wonder at this point with them talking about doing this, anytime they do something for
03:55the guys, they usually like to try to do it for the ladies.
03:57Will there be a traditional women's five on five, which I think would be really cool
04:01as well.
04:01We'll have to wait and see.
04:03And that's not the only thing with Cody today, because if you watch Crown Jewel at the end
04:07of his match, the fans actually throughout the match, really, really were kind of turning
04:11on Cody.
04:12He was getting chants that I'm sure were not making him happy.
04:15He was getting you suck chants and overrated chants.
04:18And it was really audible.
04:19You could hear it on the broadcast.
04:21And the really shocking thing, I think, about that is that this was like there was a tape
04:27delay.
04:28So WWE theoretically could have edited that stuff out.
04:30Instead, they left it in there.
04:32And I don't know how to take that.
04:34I'm sure some of it has to do with him leaning into this more like villainous character version
04:38of himself without actually going full heel.
04:41Maybe that's doing something for him in terms of how the fans view him.
04:45But I don't think this is as bad as like when he was in AEW and all of a sudden
04:49he felt
04:50like everybody in the world was turning on him.
04:52I just think it's a natural progression of his character.
04:54At some point, I think he probably will go full heel.
04:56I hope not right now because he is moving a ton of merch and the kids absolutely adore
05:00him.
05:01But I would not be surprised if that's something down the line in his future.
05:05Let's shift gears a little bit.
05:07Let's go to The Rock.
05:08We know that WWE is preparing for his 30th anniversary with WWE.
05:11Well, he's preparing for something else.
05:13Apparently, he is working with his Seven Bucks Entertainment production company, teaming
05:18up with Disney to create a new live action project that is going to be centered on Medusa
05:24from Mythology.
05:26No details really have been released yet, but this is not his first soiree into something
05:31like this with Seven Bucks Entertainment.
05:33They also were part of the Smashing Machine, Black Adam, Fighting With My Family.
05:37So he has some experience here.
05:39And according to a new report from Deadline, his production of Seven Bucks Entertainment
05:44is set to produce the upcoming live action original Medusa movie for Disney.
05:48And that's exciting.
05:49It really is because it's yet another place where he's going to put his hands and dabble
05:53a little bit.
05:54And if it comes off anything like it, if you haven't seen it yet, I can't give it a high
05:58enough recommendation.
05:59Fighting With My Family was fantastic.
06:01It really was.
06:02If you haven't seen it, go out of your way to watch it.
06:05I don't care for some of the other.
06:07Smashing Machine was okay, but it wasn't like world beating awesome.
06:10But that Fighting With My Family, I thought was fantastic.
06:12I really, really did.
06:13So if it's anything on that level, it should be a really great production.
06:17Can't wait to see what they do with it.
06:18On that same vibe, the whole Disney conversation, ESPN, the internal reaction to the WWE Disney
06:24Expanded Partnership, keeping in mind that they're going to do a two-day event at Walt Disney
06:28World in Orlando, Florida.
06:29They're going to be doing December 14th is when they're going to be doing the episode
06:34of Monday Night Raw, where they're going to have the John Cena classic.
06:38And then the very next night on December 15th, they're going to be doing an Avengers Doomsday
06:42themed version of Worlds Collide, which is going to feature superstars from WWE, NXT, and
06:48AAA.
06:49So the question is, is this something that's getting over with ESPN, another one of the big
06:53parts of that media conglomerate?
06:55And it sounds like, according to a report from Fightful, people at ESPN are very much
06:59pleased with the announcement of the Expanded Partnership.
07:03And Disney is the parent company of ESPN.
07:06It makes a lot of sense.
07:07ESPN is who they have the actual deal signed with for their PLE distribution and whatnot.
07:12So to see them happy, maybe it just grows that relationship.
07:16When media rights deals come due and things like that, I don't know how that plays into
07:20the conversation, but you could easily see where if this Expanded Partnership goes over
07:25quite well and is profitable, that could lead to more dollars and cents for WWE in their
07:29next deal.
07:30And let's be honest, in TKO, this is all they care about is dollars and cents.
07:34So this is an interesting development to see them doing this.
07:38And I think both shows are going to be stacked to try to get as much out of the experience
07:43as
07:43they possibly can.
07:44And that can't be a bad thing.
07:46It really, really can't.
07:47I'm going to touch on one AEW thing before I get back to WWE.
07:50I do just want to mention that tonight on Collision, tonight was the episode that aired
07:53from the Chris Jericho cruise, and there was some very big news that came out of the show
07:58that in the main event, Andrade defending the national championship against Tommaso Ciampa.
08:03And at the end of the match, Ciampa reverses Andrade's finisher and Ciampa ends up defeating
08:09Andrade El Idolo and Tommaso Ciampa is the new AEW national heavyweight champion.
08:16And that's very cool because I feel like he has gotten a chance since going to AEW to really show
08:21what he's able to do.
08:22He's able to put on better quality matches, have great feuds with great talents, and really wrestle.
08:27Nothing held back.
08:29Just, you know, all in, pedal to the metal.
08:33And this is great.
08:34His matches have been top notch.
08:35And I like to see him getting a little bit of a reward.
08:38A run with the national championship is a perfect reward for somebody who is probably not going
08:43to ever be AEW world heavyweight champion, but can still rack up some accolades that make
08:48their time in AEW seem very fruitful.
08:50So this is very cool.
08:51Congratulations.
08:52Go out to Tommaso Ciampa.
08:54Speaking of talents that could end up in AEW soon, courtesy of WWE not renewing their contract,
08:59WWE and the Creed Brothers.
09:01Now, on the topic of the Creed Brothers, we covered in the previous episode that they are
09:05no longer with WWE.
09:06Brutus and Julius have made a, apparently it sounds like it was a mutual parting of the
09:11ways WWE didn't want to offer them a new contract, and they didn't really want a new contract.
09:14Now, I've heard from Dave Meltzer talking about one of the reasons he feels like WWE kind
09:19of gave up on them was the lack of charisma, the lack of their promo skills.
09:23But he also mentioned that prior to that, when Julius Creed, not necessarily Brutus, but
09:27when Julius joined the company, they really had high hopes for him, not just being any
09:31superstar, but being one of the really the big four pillars of the company in the foreseeable
09:37future, and that they really thought that there was even a chance that they might have
09:41been able to push him to be the next John Cena level character.
09:44Obviously, that didn't happen.
09:45They did go to NXT.
09:47They won the NXT Tag Team Championship.
09:48They came to the main roster, joined Chad Gable, kind of toiled for a while in that, and
09:52they did return back to NXT last month.
09:55They competed in the Dusty Rhodes Tag Team Classic.
09:57They did not win, but they did make it to the semifinals.
10:00And I think I was a little bit surprised to see them released right after that appearance.
10:04But it sounds like the biggest loss here, and Dave Meltzer has the same opinion.
10:08He suggests that the charisma is what's holding back Julius Creed from being a top-level star.
10:13And he put that out on the Wrestling Observer Radio.
10:15It's really a shame.
10:16I actually think that he's worldly talented, and I had seen reports two years ago about
10:21how WWE really thought that he could be a single star at some point, but he just never got over
10:25that hump of really being able to cut a promo and be enthusiastic and show that charisma,
10:29and it sounds like that's what held him back.
10:31I'm going to address one other thing in this episode.
10:34That is, where is Natty?
10:35Why has Natty not been on television over seven months?
10:39The last time she was on TV was in mid-March, and the conversation shifted to her, and she
10:44was commenting on this on her Busted Open appearance, and basically it was, you know,
10:50why has she not been on Raw?
10:53And, you know, she addressed the concern.
10:55The last time she was there was March 16th against Maxine Dupree.
10:58She was booked really strong.
10:59There were some thoughts about it, but now on Busted Open Radio, she made it clear.
11:03I'll give you the quote.
11:04She says, so while I haven't been on Raw, it's okay because obviously timing for me is everything,
11:08and I really trust in the process.
11:10I'm excited to come back to Raw when the timing is right, whenever I'm needed, and the story
11:14calls for it.
11:15There are so many additions to the show.
11:17We got Lola and Sol.
11:19We're seeing all these new members of 946, then Jada Parker joined that.
11:23I was like, SH, now this is getting juicy.
11:26It's obvious she would like to get in the ring and work with some of these talents and
11:29be a part of the show.
11:30She'll be ready whenever they do call her up, but right now there just isn't a spot for
11:35her, and it doesn't sound like she's in a bad, it doesn't have a bad way to look at
11:40that.
11:40She is doing stuff on the indies.
11:42She's done the NWA.
11:43She's done Bloodsport.
11:44She's done, they have a training center, her and TJ.
11:47So she's got a lot of her toes dipped into a lot of things and her contributions to Busted
11:51Open Radio.
11:52So it's not like she's sitting around doing nothing.
11:54She's just not been on Raw.
11:56Hopefully we see her back on Raw sooner rather than later.
11:58She can add to that legacy that she's created as one of the most, you know, longest tenured
12:04and most dominant women across many, many years in WWE in that women's division, but
12:09until they figure out what to do with her.
12:10It sounds like we're not going to see her anytime soon, and she certainly didn't give
12:13any hints that there's any plans in the work to bring her back right now.
12:16So I guess we're just in a holding pattern to wait and find out when she gets back to
12:19television.
12:20For now, though, what do you think?
12:22Should WWE bring Natty back?
12:23I understand her age could be a conversation piece.
12:26Who is she going to wrestle?
12:26So hasn't she already done everything that you could possibly ask her to do?
12:29I don't know.
12:30That's up to you.
12:31Tell me who you would bring her back and put her against.
12:34I did have one person who had submitted this question.
12:37I apologize.
12:38I don't have the name.
12:39Please don't hate me for it.
12:40But this is a couple weeks ago.
12:42Somebody had mentioned when we were doing an episode on Jordan Grace and Ivy Nile coming
12:46out being a tag team that Natty would be the perfect manager for the two of them.
12:50I don't necessarily disagree with that.
12:52I think that could be very interesting.
12:53What do you think of that?
12:54Give me some ideas what you think they should do with Natty.
12:56How do you feel about the Cody Rhodes situation?
12:58Should he go heel?
12:59Should he stay babyface since he's pumping out the merchandise?
13:02How do you feel about the way he was treated by the crowd?
13:04Give me some feedback in the comments down below.
13:06I'd really appreciate that.
13:08For now, though, that's all the time we have for this episode.
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