00:00okay who's who's not coming back for the for the tigers ryan eubanks and i believe it was chris
00:06mcdonald eubanks was the head athletic trainer okay so whenever a team has a bunch of injuries
00:14we invariably get calls that says it's got to be the strength and conditioning coach
00:18or you know it's it's got to be the staff to which they're practicing too hard with it we
00:23we say frequently well if they're doing something wrong the organization will know it and you'll
00:28see a change perhaps maybe that is what's happening perhaps this is an example yeah i remember that
00:36being a conversation about the lions in i think it was 24 when they went 15 and 2 and i
00:43was working in
00:44at a division 2 school at the time was really good friends with one of the athletic trainers there and
00:49i asked her like as an athletic trainer can you tell when other ats are bad at their job and
00:55ats being athletic trainers yeah and can it lead to more injuries or recurring injuries for
01:01athletes and she said pretty much yeah it's kind of like any job like people are good at it and
01:05people
01:05are bad at it and i think it's hard for us as fans from the outside to kind of rationalize
01:11and
01:11understand that guys just get injured but just like to be okay with it yeah it's hard yeah it's hard
01:17to
01:17see see it happen so like if you're a 49ers person like you just be okay with as well as
01:22part of the
01:22game as part of interest like there has to be something we can do to stop this from happening
01:26over and over and over again it can be part of the game but you know what's when it's considered
01:30not
01:31part of the game when a move like this happens so exactly yeah two cuts using his inner diana
01:35racina to get some inside information from uh from the system whoa chill out yeah wow wow
01:44wow okay that was quite a logical leap there right he heard one word and took it and ran yeah
01:52he did
01:52uh thanks something kid yeah of course that's been compromised guys
01:59um it's always got information about injuries it's weird all right let me make something clear here
02:06i think you and i are on the same page and kang is on the same page because we brought
02:10it up
02:11yesterday and i want to ask intense paul uh behind the glass who's not who's admittedly not a lions fan
02:18none of us think it's wise to quote give up on the season none of us are i guess you
02:24can do whatever
02:24you want paul do you think lions fans should give up on the season as far as like making the
02:32playoffs
02:33no i still think they can win 10 11 games yeah i don't think they can win the super bowl
02:37though
02:37yeah so i mean i guess it depends the way they're constructed now yes okay that could change if they
02:44add a player if they make some moves at the deadline that could change yep or before the deadline like
02:49today um yeah so that's not a look like i said i i don't i don't think it's smart i
02:57don't think it's
02:57fair like once you make a prediction you got to stick by it until it's wrong so i'll probably own
03:02the l on
03:03the 14 and 3 thing and that's fine um i don't love what i've seen so far the defense is
03:08way worse
03:09than i expected i can't believe that they're one of the best teams in the league at pressuring
03:14quarterbacks and they're still getting shredded through the air like that is that is really hard
03:20to do usually pressuring quarterbacks go hand in hand with things like turnovers and and being good
03:27on past defense and it's it's been absolutely brutal it's weird because i don't think sacks like
03:32overrated you want sacks obviously and pressure right doug but if you get a sack and there's only
03:37so many sacks you can get in a game so you put them back at second along or third along
03:42but they
03:43end up converting it anyways it's it was almost pointless do you know i'm saying yeah you still
03:47get credit for the sack but then you get the yards allowed the passing yards allowed the third down
03:52conversions allowed the fourth down conversions allowed which by the way the lines were dead last
03:56in all of those categories points per game they're dead last in that category they give up the
04:00most first downs in the league they're dead last in all these metrics but if you say well we apply
04:06pressure we have all these sacks are you sacking them every single possession or everything no you
04:12can't do that you can't possibly do that and it doesn't matter because the offense just overcomes
04:16it anyways there are some and there are some i mean just some of the the the numbers like
04:21beyond the obvious total defense and passing yards allowed the lions don't force three and outs
04:26like they just they don't get off the field at all they have the lowest percentage of three and outs
04:32in the league ironically tied with the chiefs um but stuff like that adds up and it wears you down
04:41248-539-9797 jason and shelby township you're next what's up jason okay guys uh okay we have to do
04:51the biggest refresh in football history okay going into the bye week um jack hamill's going to come
04:58around and we know he will uh brian ranch is coming back now what we need to do is mortgage
05:04our future
05:05trade our one through five picks next year go get a five through ten corner a five through ten safety
05:12and a five through ten linebacker right there what do you mean by five through ten along with jack
05:17campbell what does what does five through ten okay what does five through ten mean jason what
05:24is five through ten five through ten like i don't we don't expect to get a you know the top
05:30cornerback
05:31in the league or the top safety but let's get someone that so a top ten is what you're saying
05:36above average gotcha all right above average so that's plan a okay so now we have to look at our
05:44offense and say to ourselves we have a great offensive line that's young and also i don't
05:50know what's up with your phone but it's driving us nuts is are you do you have us on speaker
05:54by chance
05:55oh yeah let me okay okay i i would explain it because you're breaking up quite a bit better not
06:01really
06:02okay but okay so anyways um we built this over six years it took to get to this point if
06:10we can just
06:11patch a few ends on our defense we are going to take the ball away from opposing offenses let's just
06:19say hypothetically for five minutes per game you're putting that five minutes into the high-powered
06:25offense of the detroit lions that can score well you know it's probably the you know best offense
06:31in the league so it seems to me that it would make total sense that mortgage the future because we
06:37have a great off young offense right now uh we're one of the youngest teams real quick jason we need
06:43you to wrap it up we need you to wrap it up okay so that's i mean that's what i
06:49feel like we have
06:49like such a young kid we can afford to trade our one through four picks next year and uh what
06:55is
06:55your season and then he means what is one through four picks i don't know first or fourth round
07:02but isn't was he talking about drafting guys i don't know dude it's i don't know if you're talking
07:10about a reset and a re i don't think he was talking about rebuilding but he was talking about
07:14was he was he even talking about like tanking this year and just he was talking about i thought he
07:19was talking about drafting trying to draft top 10 players king what happened there he was saying
07:25this is what i got from it okay he was saying trade everything in the draft next year for top
07:3110
07:31defensive players essentially right one through four meaning trade your picks in rounds one two three
07:37and four for a top 10 cornerback or defensive player that's what i think he was saying when he
07:44kept saying top five top 10 otherwise he was saying give me a five or ten corner and that kept
07:50happening on the phone would kill me um so yeah i think we're all in favor of at some point
07:55let's do
07:55the f them picks and and get better players 100 i would they've reached critical mass i think they've
08:01reached critical mass here defensively yeah like they have the time is now the time is now and i i
08:09think
08:09our gm the the accusations that he might be stubborn um have had a lot of support through the years
08:16the
08:16evidence would make you believe that i can't imagine being stubborn under these current circumstance
08:24if you are the gm and you are the head coach and you have super bowl aspirations this year
08:31and you've seen the defense for four games you have to try very hard to do something
08:38and and maybe more aggressive than you ever have before can you brought up in the office yesterday
08:43what if it's an overpay what if it's an acknowledged overpay to get a player like
08:50you give up a first rounder for a defensive back that's better than anything you have but not as good
08:55as joey porter yeah i just wonder how desperate lion fans are feeling because obviously you guys
09:01know we we've done it for a couple years now that fans want a big move they want to splash
09:05trade or free agent signing well are you how far are you willing to go you have a great offense
09:10you
09:10think that could even be better right how far are you willing to go to get that defensive help are
09:14you willing to quote unquote overpay and mortgage more than you want but right now because you feel
09:20like the window is closing you want to try to capitalize it how much are you want to give up
09:23gator
09:25if if the player i'm going to acquire is has more than just this year on their contract if they've
09:33got a couple years left on the contract i'm willing to overpay for that if it's obviously a good player
09:38you know but i'm willing to give a first round pick for for the right player that comes along and
09:44if
09:44that means i'm overpaying for for a corner in this league so be it you know because we've seen the
09:50line strike on a first round corners on second round corners um so let's go let's let's let's do
09:55it with that position specifically i'm looking at corner and what is the overpay if joy porter jr
10:02had a couple years left on the contract would i have given up a first and a third maybe you
10:07know
10:08it might be irresponsible with it by you know some people think joy porter jr is is very
10:14very overrated i tend to think he's he's not get some penalties called against him but i would
10:19have loved to have had him because as a cover corner he's really good is there a player like
10:24that and i think they're going to find in the next couple weeks you're going to start seeing more and
10:28more teams drop out of this thing because the record just isn't good enough and they're going to get
10:34start to start thinking about moving players off the roster and hopefully the lions can take advantage
10:39hmm i'm just looking at the feedback coming in because we haven't given up on this season
10:45there are a lot of insults people are like offended carson anderson 97 one
