00:00See, here's a question for both of you guys
00:03because you cover the team, and I want to give a...
00:05I would appreciate if you gave an honest opinion
00:08about what I think they should do.
00:12I think they should shop everybody but Waggler.
00:16I think big toes should be on the market,
00:18and I think new toes should be on the market.
00:22Brandon Ingram and Darius Garland, heel and toe, okay?
00:25That sounds like a dance move.
00:26Heel and toe, like a country group.
00:29They should both be on the market because of the nature
00:32and the entanglement that this organization is in.
00:37It really feels like now is the best time to start from ground zero.
00:42How do you guys feel about that possible take?
00:44Now, I know that's going to be hard
00:45because they have no real decision makers in the building,
00:48but we both know you could still text.
00:51Go ahead, Beef.
00:53I would say it's good to shop, but don't shop yet.
00:57I think I said this on the last episode that it's good for them
01:01to ball out of their mind, especially in contract years, right?
01:04You want your players to ball out of control so it makes the trade
01:07so much easier to do.
01:08I don't even got to think about it.
01:10You say, hey, Brandon Ingram averaging almost 28 points per game.
01:13I think you should come in and go shop.
01:15Garland is out here balling out of control.
01:17He has what?
01:17A double-double.
01:18He has over 20 points, 10 assists.
01:20I think you should come shop.
01:21It makes it easy when the players play to a certain standard,
01:25which I feel all these players are
01:26because what do they have to lose?
01:29Nothing.
01:30And players like Rui, players like Max,
01:32those type of players that's on certain tradable contracts,
01:35you play out of your mind, you can definitely get some picks back.
01:38So I don't mind that.
01:40But I wouldn't say trade everything.
01:41You have to keep a veteran in the building.
01:43You can't just let the youth run free.
01:46You see what happened with certain teams?
01:47Youth just run free.
01:49You got to have some big boy pants in the building.
01:51I think, John, you're right that anything should be on the table at this point.
01:57Correct.
01:58I don't care if you have an allegiance to a guy.
02:01I don't care if you think that this guy's potential,
02:04like Darius Garland's potential or Brandon Ingram's potential,
02:08if he grows into his prime and all that stuff, is at its highest.
02:12You still have to consider it because of the position that you're in.
02:16I don't look at this era of Clippers basketball
02:19as the Darius Garland and Brandon Ingram era.
02:23This is what they're going to try to win a title with.
02:26I look at this era as, okay, it's a transition between where we were at before.
02:31We didn't get the job done with Kawhi.
02:33We're going to be probably competitive,
02:35and that means probably the back of the plane, if anything,
02:38right now or maybe even now and next year and the year after that.
02:41But these guys should be used as assets for the next competitive contending team.
02:47Because if you can get picks for a Darius Garland,
02:50if you can get picks for a Brandon Ingram,
02:52if you can get a pick for a Max Struess-type package,
02:55something like that, or Rui, if he balls out this year,
02:58you have to consider it.
03:00Now, as much as the front office and the fan base want to make it seem like
03:06this is a team that will compete this year,
03:08I do think they're going to be better than expected.
03:11But if you're not in the contending tier at this point,
03:14you're just treading water.
03:16You're just staying in place
03:17because you're not transitioning to that next contending era.
03:20Now, listen, like I said,
03:23I think they're going to be more competitive than people realize
03:26because they do have talent on this roster still.
03:29They did bring in veterans that want to compete and want to win.
03:33But this is not going to be the team that's contending for a championship.
03:38So at that point, if Darius Garland has an all-star level year,
03:42if Brandon Ingram has an all-star level year,
03:45I'm not saying that they're going to get in,
03:46but if they have those types of years, you have to consider it.
03:50If teams are calling you, you have to.
03:52This feels like a trust-the-process situation.
03:55And I know Clipper fans don't want to hear this,
03:58but this feels like a trust-the-process situation
04:00and hope you land on Joel Embiid.
04:02But to get to Joel Embiid, you've got to get you a New Orleans Noel.
04:06You've got to get you a Jaleel Okafor.
04:08You might have to get you a Markel Fultz instead of a Jason Tatum.
04:13This sounds like a process that needs to go through the working,
04:17in my opinion.
04:19Because, B, let's say if you maximize Garland's year
04:24and you maximize Brandon Ingram's year,
04:26do you think that's enough to make the play-in?
04:29No, and I'm not even looking for a play-in.
04:32I'm just looking for stock, right?
04:35I can't have these players on my team and they're performing under.
04:38I can't trade them.
04:39I can't move them, right?
04:40So it's all about their performance so I can move this stock high.
04:43It's like buying a used car, right?
04:45Yeah, it's a bunch of parts on the back end of the car that's not working,
04:47but you see me flying down the street.
04:49You say, yo, that's a nice car, nice paint.
04:51I'm not telling you what's wrong on the back end of it, right?
04:53But what do you do with the rookie now?
04:56You're going to buy it in front of him.
04:56You got the fifth pick in the draft.
04:58What do you do with him?
04:59They think he's a part of the next contending team.
05:02They're going to keep him, obviously, because he's their fifth overall pick.
05:05They're going to try to build around him.
05:07He starts.
05:08So in the scheme of things, in the scheme of things,
05:11I don't think he is.
05:13No, but see, in the scheme of things, for sure we don't think he is because it's Ty Lue.
05:18Ty Lue's going to play Chris Dunn.
05:20For sure.
05:21He loves Chris Dunn.
05:22He got to go through.
05:23But in the scheme of things, to make all this make sense,
05:27you have to let Keaton run 82 games strong.
05:30Let him get his licks and wounds in this whole season as it goes ups and downs.
05:34That way, the veterans can ball out.
05:37Keaton stays.
05:37Y'all go.
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