00:00Did you hear Shabath in the update there?
00:02Yeah, that's big news.
00:04Calling up Max Clark per Emily Walden at Baseball America.
00:07Emily is as plugged in as anybody, especially in the minor leagues.
00:11That's her B.
00:12Yeah.
00:13She knows that stuff.
00:14We talked about that earlier.
00:15Is it time to call up Max Clark?
00:18Let me ask you this question.
00:19Who's out, man?
00:24Could it be?
00:25James, out, man.
00:28I have no idea.
00:31With Javi back playing more center field.
00:33It seems like that would be the logical move to make.
00:36How many center fielders are you trying to carry?
00:38If you didn't send Outman down or DFA him, you'd be carrying three center fielders.
00:43And I get it.
00:43This team needs better outfield defense, but it's going to be James Outman, right?
00:48Yeah, I would think so.
00:49Well, you've been on a streak here.
00:50This week, you brought up call up Max Clark.
00:53You had Jameer Gibbs hold in.
00:56Hey, everyone knows, you want your breaking news on all our local sports teams?
01:0297-1.
01:03John Jansen specifically.
01:04You've got a crystal ball.
01:07And I am curious, whenever it is that, when we hear from Scott Harris, it's going to be
01:13about the trade deadline, but if it is, in fact, true that Max Clark is going to be up,
01:20how did they weigh bringing up Max Clark and having him on the roster as part of the 40-man
01:27roster versus if there's a lockout, Max Clark is not going to be playing minor league baseball
01:35to start the season?
01:37And maybe it's just, hey, he did what he had to do.
01:41He's done what we asked him to do, and he's earned the right to come up.
01:44Could be as simple as that.
01:45I think that'll be the answer, because in July, Max Clark has been on a tear.
01:49He's hitting .338.
01:50He's got an OPS over 1,000.
01:52The on-base, it's almost every other at-bat the guy's been getting on-base.
01:55I think only two games in the month of July did he fail to reach base.
01:58And when he comes up, he brings the ability to own the zone, good approach, discipline
02:04the things Scott Harris values, but also some base running.
02:07They like that.
02:08The first and third, can he steal a base?
02:09Can he give him a little extra juice?
02:11This also coincides with what we think is the transition.
02:14You're going to trade Scooble.
02:16You're more looking to the future than you are making a serious run this year.
02:20Makes all the sense in the world.
02:22Hey, maybe that's the roster spot.
02:25Scooble.
02:29That would mean we're getting no major leaguers back for Scooble.
02:32I'll swing and miss on the third one.
02:33Okay, there we go.
02:34Got to rein this guy in over here.
02:36That's a heat check is what that was.
02:38Right, exactly.
02:39I'm shocked by this.
02:40I never thought they'd call him up this year.
02:41I truly thought they were going to let him season just like McGonagall.
02:45And boy, was I wrong.
02:46I got to tell you, my mind's wandering.
02:48And does this at all signify they're not moving forward?
02:53That they're going to not trade?
02:55That they're not going to trade?
02:56The way they've tried to replenish this lineup in a week where they've gotten, they're adding
03:01three bats of this lineup this week with Valencia, at least part-time based with him, but Baez and Clark.
03:06I want to be polite, but his head would need to be examined if they keep Derek Scooble.
03:14I agree.
03:15I'm simply asking.
03:16I go, the timing this, I was in Jimmy's office when it happened.
03:20We heard it.
03:20And he said, why not the Orioles series?
03:22And I said, well, no home pressure, number one.
03:24You don't play at home for 10 games, but they're putting him in a minor league park tomorrow night.
03:30Literally.
03:31Yeah.
03:31So he's used to hitting there.
03:33Hey, one quick note.
03:36Texter points out, Veerling did come up limping.
03:39Maybe Veerling's the roster spot.
03:40It could be.
03:41Yeah.
03:43It's not like James Outman, who gets Outman a lot, deserves a spot.
03:50No.
03:50But that's a great point.
03:51It's probably Veerling.
03:52It could be.
03:53And who knows?
03:54But again, when we talked about it earlier in the week, you bring him up.
04:01Without an injury, it seems like it would be James Outman.
04:04But you could pick Veerling.
04:06There's a number of guys you could pick to be like, we got better odds letting a young
04:10guy find his way versus some of these veterans that just have underperformed over the course
04:17of nearly 110 games.
04:19Yeah.
04:21Max Clark, call up per Emily Walden.
04:24It's exciting.
04:25We'll play tomorrow night, Major League debut, Friday night.
04:29Casey Mize might be Mize's last start as a Tiger.
04:32A whole lot going on right now.
04:34There's a lot of possibilities.
04:36Tex says, LOL, Scooble's not being traded.
04:39See, that wasn't my initial reaction of adding a bat by adding Max Clark, and that means
04:45they're going for it by keeping Scooble.
04:48I still think there's no world.
04:50You're 700 or 500.
04:52After the deadline, you're going to have 50 games left.
04:55I viewed it the opposite way.
04:57Oh, you're trading away Scooble in the coming days.
05:00And you're bringing up the young guys.
05:01In the future, knowing, hey, Clark, he can give them a spark, but may hit a wall, right?
05:05This is his first big league experience.
05:06And if he hits a wall, okay, we're not a playoff team.
05:09Right.
05:122-4-8-5-3-9-97-97.
05:15A lot of people wondering, Vierling did the IR.
05:16Could it be Vierling?
05:17He was going to third on that triple and came up limping.
05:21It's him or James Outman as the corresponding move.
05:24That would be our best guess.
05:25Let's get to Jay in Clinton Township.
05:27Jay, good morning.
05:30I wanted to say I think that the consensus that trading Scooble is like a move for the future is
05:36actually wrong.
05:38Like, look how many runs we gave up yesterday.
05:41I don't think Scooble pitching isn't a win.
05:44Our weaknesses are bullpen.
05:46You actually get better if you trade Scooble now and you get a bullpen arm,
05:50a major league-ready bullpen arm, which you can get on a rental for Scooble.
05:53So, I think the team gets better.
05:56I don't know why everybody keeps thinking that when you trade Scooble, it's a move for the future.
06:01I think trading Scooble for a bullpen arm makes his team better now.
06:06So, the caliber of bullpen arm you're going to get back is not going to be a high-end one.
06:11That team's going to keep that bullpen arm to chase the World Series with Tarek Scooble.
06:15Does that make sense?
06:17On a team that doesn't have enough depth in the bullpen,
06:20but you've got a handful of teams that are making a run for it right now.
06:23Yeah, they might shake a guy loose from the bottom of their bullpen for us,
06:28but they're not giving away their 7th inning, 8th inning, 9th inning guys.
06:32Well, what Jay is saying is the bottom of their bullpen might be better than the top of our bullpen.
06:36Right, but I think in the net...
06:37The bottom of the bullpen absolutely is better than the top of our bullpen.
06:41Oh, there's no question it's a bad bullpen.
06:42Oh, I know.
06:43We know him.
06:44But I don't know how much...
06:45Starting pitching isn't our weakness.
06:47And Scooble didn't do anything for us yesterday.
06:48I mean, this idea that Scooble's the reason that we win is that it's not borne out by the data.
06:54The reason we're losing right now is the bullpen.
06:58That's what we've got to shore up.
06:59That's it.
07:00I agree with you.
07:01You've got to shore up the bullpen, but...
07:03We're not a bullpen piece away from being a playoff team.
07:06You have...
07:06I disagree.
07:07I disagree.
07:08Look how many one-run games we lost.
07:10I don't think one arm is going to fix...
07:12You're a 500 game just winning half of those.
07:14Jay, you know the numbers.
07:15One arm isn't going to fix that level of bullpen leakage.
07:19Yeah, they had four other guys come in and give up runs, each of them.
07:25So we need a lot of help in the bullpen.
07:26But look how many one-run games we've lost.
07:28I know.
07:28We're the worst in the league.
07:30If you even win half of those, you're over 500.
07:35Jay, I agree with you.
07:37The bullpen is...
07:37That's what you've got to trade Scooble for.
07:39That makes it better.
07:40We're not fighting you on bullpen as a problem for this baseball team.
07:43Right.
07:43I mean, you can get a bullpen arm that helps you now for Scooble on a rental.
07:49That's the one major league-ready piece that you actually can get on a rental.
07:52Look at all the times players get traded as a rental.
07:55The one piece that you see come back is a good bullpen arm.
08:00That's the only consistent thing that you see traded.
08:02You're right.
08:03Those guys get moved more than anybody else this time of year.
08:05Bullpen arms are in high supply every Major League Baseball trade deadline.
08:09There's no doubt.
08:10If you want to get a bullpen arm back, cool.
08:13I would prioritize getting pieces that are going to be more impactful over the long haul.
08:19Yes.
08:19And maybe you do both.
08:22You get a bat or an arm that's going to be part of Detroit for four or five years.
08:28And yeah, throw in a bullpen arm.
08:30We'll give you Glaber Torres.
08:31You know what I mean?
08:32There's a way to move and shake here.
08:34That's how I think you can approach it.
08:37I just have a fundamental argument that you're better by trading Scoobo because you're not going to get like in
08:43return.
08:44Now, your odds of winning a game if Casey Mize is on the mound and you have a better bullpen
08:50arm coming in.
08:51Sure, you have a chance to win that game.
08:53Yeah, but but Tarek Scoobo, he just threw a two one win last weekend.
09:02And he was he had a seven one advantage when he left the mound.
09:09I don't think that's one.
09:11You're not one bullpen arm away from making the postseason.
09:13No.
09:14And I know Tom has already done the gotcha moment with me.
09:19The bullpen clearly.
09:22See, Jim, it's the bullpen.
09:24See, I couldn't wait to say that to you earlier this morning.
09:26I know you agree now, right?
09:28I agree.
09:29The bullpen's bad.
09:29I've never fought you on it.
09:30Is this the number one reason?
09:31This team is still bottom 10 in run scoring.
09:33You just can't let it go.
09:34I mean, no, no.
09:35The platter yesterday that was served up in Tom, you're missing this.
09:38I'm not fighting you on it.
09:39But when callers like this make it only about the reason when you make it only about the bullpen, you're
09:45doing only.
09:45Is it number one?
09:46Is it the number one reason?
09:48Yeah.
09:48Okay.
09:51Tom gets a win.
09:52Take your victory lap.
09:53I need one after my Clark miscalculation.
09:56That was a real debate.
09:58Now, I understand where you were coming from on that because I didn't know the rules of if you're on
10:07the 40-man roster,
10:09you can't play minor league baseball if there's a lockout.
10:13I didn't know that.
10:16You can have your victory lap.
10:18All I'm asking is that when we point out the limitations of this team,
10:21we don't let Harris and company off the hook for not adding any bats and being bottom 10 in run
10:26scoring.
10:27And if they're going to make any run, that's going to be an issue for them.
10:31Because their bullpen ERA is top 10.
10:33They just play too many low-scoring games because they don't score,
10:36and then it exposes the high-leverage relievers on this team.
10:39It's both.
10:40With that bullpen top 10 ERA thing, it's so jaded by middle innings.
10:44It's the last three innings of the game is the reason why.
10:47That caller's dead on.
10:48Yeah, in all the games, they've only scored two or three runs.
10:50What are we doing here, though?
10:51It's time to wave the white flag.
10:53If they go on ahead and compete, compete.
10:55They're bringing up Clark.
10:56Clark, maybe that's one of the reasons they're doing it.
10:58But he has to go no matter what.
11:00Scoble, yes.
11:01Yes.
11:02Torres, yes.
11:03Anybody that knows this game, he has to be traded.
11:10You're looking at the clock.
11:11We want to get the audio in.
11:12We'll play the audio next, and I know we got phone calls.
11:14You guys want to weigh in?
11:15248-539-9797.
11:18Oh, boy.
11:18It's heating up.
11:19It's 97-1.
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