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00:00There's been a lot of buzz about egg freezing being a kind of insurance policy for women

00:04looking to delay motherhood, especially with trendsetting companies like Apple and Facebook

00:08offering to pay for the procedure through their employees' benefits packages.

00:12But what do we really know about this procedure?

00:15Well, we know it's expensive, and we know it's kind of invasive, but does it work?

00:21Is it worth it?

00:23Is it dangerous?

00:24Is this just a scam where people are preying on women's insecurities about dying alone?

00:30It's important that we know that because if the perennial question is, can women have

00:35it all, could the answer be egg freezing?

00:46Given today's social and professional climates, more and more women are delaying pregnancy.

00:52I guess I think maybe I'd be like in my mid-30s.

00:55As a young woman, I'm thinking more about what I want to do professionally than I am

01:00about family and stuff like that.

01:01How old are you, Gabby?

01:0221.

01:04Are you really?

01:05Nope.

01:06I'm 20.

01:08Do you ever think about having babies or starting a family?

01:12I'm mostly thinking about trying not to have a kid.

01:16Yeah.

01:17I need to live out my life, and I want to be in a comfortable spot financially.

01:23Fifty-five years ago, birth control pills gave women control over their own bodies, enabling

01:28them to chart their own reproductive destinies, to delay pregnancy until the time was right.

01:34According to a recent study by the CDC, first births to women 35 and older have increased

01:39nearly ninefold in the past four decades.

01:42As women, we spend so much time in our teens and 20s trying to prevent pregnancy because

01:47that's considered the responsible thing to do.

01:49But that also makes it easier to forget our own biology, that our most fertile years are

01:54between the ages of 19 to 26.

01:57Now, many women are looking to assisted reproductive technology to help them beat their biological

02:02clocks, or at least to press the snooze button and buy a little more time.

02:08For the segment of women who say, I want to pursue a career, then egg freezing in particular

02:15provides them a tremendous option that women of my generation, and certainly the generations

02:20before me, just did not have.

02:22I think egg freezing is a tremendous advance, perhaps one of, if not the most tremendous

02:26advance in women's reproductive health in the last 50 years.

02:30Up until about 15 years ago, eggs were frozen using a slow freeze method, which was generally

02:35ineffective.

02:36But, in 2000, the process was significantly improved by a new technology called vitrification.

02:42And in 2012, the American Society for Reproductive Technology lifted the experimental label

02:48on vitrification, making the procedure widely available for women looking to delay motherhood.

02:53Life today is younger women postponing childbearing, advancing careers, advancing education, advancing

03:01their families doing whatever they want to do.

03:02And all of that requires postponing childbirth.

03:04It's really a great, great insurance policy.

03:07And while many people see egg freezing as an empowering advance for women, others are not

03:13so sure.

03:14It's not an insurance policy, that's for sure.

03:17You might be one of the lucky people, but you're more likely to undergo a lot of discomfort,

03:23some risk, and a lot of expense, and then have heartbreak, because you don't have a child.

03:30And you thought maybe you were going to get one out of those frozen eggs.

03:33The marketing right now is suggesting that this is a hassle-free, easy, liberating thing

03:38that all young women should consider.

03:41The idea that we would market this to everybody, I find that deeply unnerving.

03:45There is this whole new market niche, which is healthy young women who aren't infertile.

03:51And, of course, any business is going to jump to get a whole new demographic as customers.

03:58Hi!

03:59I'm Tracy.

04:00Nice to meet you.

04:01So, why did you decide to freeze your eggs?

04:03You know, that's a really good question.

04:05I'm young, and I have a great career.

04:07How old are you?

04:07I'm 28.

04:08Yeah.

04:08And I'm in digital ad sales.

04:10And so there isn't this immediate urgency to freeze my eggs in most people's opinions,

04:15but for me, freezing my eggs allows me to fulfill my dreams on my own timeline, without

04:20depending on a man or my biological clock.

04:23So how did the whole procedure go?

04:26The first part, first 14 days, you're taking hormones.

04:28I started off with my hormone estrogen rate at 61, and it got up to 1,900.

04:33Wow.

04:34So by the end of those two weeks, you legitimately feel crazy.

04:37So after those two weeks, I went in for my surgery, which is a fairly simple procedure,

04:43and I noticed that my belly was really swollen.

04:45I looked a couple months pregnant.

04:47So I was nervous about it, and when I asked the doctor, she just handed me a one-sheeter,

04:52and at the title, it was ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome.

04:57Ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome is a condition that can result as a reaction to the hormones

05:01used in stimulating egg production.

05:03Serious cases of the condition only affect about 3% of patients, but in its worst instances,

05:08it can actually cause ovarian torsions, a separate and very threatening complication

05:14in which an ovary turns over on itself.

05:16It was the kind of debilitating pain where you just feel paralyzed, and I started dry heaving,

05:21and I made it just a few steps into my apartment before I blacked out.

05:25And when I came to, I was on the couch and on the floor, covered in a cold sweat, and

05:29I was shivering.

05:30Like, I just had no idea what happened to me.

05:33I couldn't even reach for the Percocet bottle, and so I ended up getting rushed to the ER,

05:38and upon arrival, they diagnosed me with ovarian torsions.

05:42So you gotta understand, your ovaries usually are the size of walnuts,

05:46but mine ended up the size of grapefruits because of your ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome.

05:51It's hard to even relive that moment.

05:56I went through a lot, and I would still do it all over again.

06:00You would?

06:00Yeah, yeah.

06:02Egg freezing is more than just an insurance policy.

06:05It's really setting myself up for any life I want, whether that includes a man or not.

06:15Not everyone Vicki's age is in the financial position to freeze their eggs.

06:19Ironically, the women who can typically afford it aren't the best candidates.

06:22They tend to be in their mid to late 30s after they've established their careers,

06:26but by then, their fertility has already dropped off significantly.

06:32This morning, I'm gonna go for my first ultrasound visit with Dr. Sahakian,

06:37and he's a fertility specialist.

06:40He specializes in freezing eggs.

06:42I'll be 38 in June.

06:44You know, I'm unmarried.

06:46I'm in a strong relationship, and I love him very much.

06:49But that said, it does raise some very sensitive subjects about our relationship,

06:57and about family planning, and about timing.

06:59At some point, I had to ask,

07:02am I doing this for myself so that I have options when I'm ready?

07:07Or are we doing this together as family planning?

07:12Women's fertility in the natural way, the natural arc it has,

07:16the idea that that's somehow a problem that women have to fix,

07:19I find that a deeply disturbing way of understanding women's bodies.

07:23Josephine Johnston is the director of research and research scholar at the Hastings Center,

07:28a bioethics research institute based in New York.

07:31Why are women finding themselves in their 30s, or late 30s, mid 30s,

07:35and feeling like they don't have an opportunity to reproduce,

07:39or they can't do it on the timetable they want?

07:41Those people may want to use this technology, and I certainly wouldn't stop them.

07:45But I would want us to also ask the question about how it is that this is happening.

07:49Why are women in this position?

07:51As the social implications of egg freezing were becoming more apparent,

07:54we decided to familiarize ourselves with the science behind it.

07:58We are in sunny California.

08:00It's way different from the snow in New York.

08:04It's so much better.

08:05And we're driving to Encino to talk to Dr. Jeffrey Steinberg.

08:09He's an endocrinologist and the director of the Fertility Institutes.

08:13So hopefully talking to a medical doctor will give us some insight into what's involved

08:17and what actually happens to your body physically.

08:23Can you describe the egg freezing process?

08:25Sure.

08:26The egg freezing process begins with the woman coming in for a consultation,

08:29where we go through her general health, her general fertility status,

08:32and what she expects out of the entire procedure.

08:35After that, we begin her on fertility drugs.

08:37The drugs are given by injection, and the women are taught to do that at home.

08:41They'll take the injections for four or five days and come back to the office.

08:44We do a scan.

08:45We count the eggs growing in the ovaries, and we continue on with the medication for another few days.

08:51After about ten days' worth of fertility injections, the eggs are going to be full-size and ready to release.

08:56And through the vagina with ultrasound, we're able to perform an extraction of the eggs.

09:00It takes 20 to 30 minutes.

09:02We have the eggs out.

09:04The woman goes home an hour later and basically recovers.

09:06Very short recovery.

09:08One or two days.

09:09After we've got the eggs in the laboratory, they're assessed for their maturity.

09:13In order to see how this actually works, Dr. Steinberg invited us on a tour of his fertility lab.

09:18I'm in a little danger of, like, crazy camel toe.

09:23I mean, you're a gynecologist, right?

09:26Yeah.

09:30So what do you do in here?

09:32In here, the scientists will receive the fluid coming from the ovary that I extract.

09:36And floating that tube of fluid is a microscopic particle that's the human egg.

09:41So they'll put that fluid under the microscope, and they'll actually identify the egg.

09:44Okay.

09:45So this is a human egg just extracted from the ovary.

09:48That's what it looks like.

09:50And this is a typical egg retrieval.

09:51This is what we have after about 20 or 30 minutes with the patient.

09:57Incubators, this is where the eggs rest before they're ready to be frozen.

10:02So they're kept in a very controlled environment.

10:05And this environment is made to duplicate the inside of the woman's body.

10:09So this is, like, just like inside my vagina?

10:12Yeah.

10:12Inside your fallopian tubes.

10:14Okay.

10:15The eggs are then vitrified, which is a flash freeze process that causes the ice to form

10:20so quickly that crystals don't get a chance to develop.

10:23They're then placed into long-term cryopreservation for as long as the lady likes.

10:29This is Lola and Ben I've got in here.

10:31Oh, my God.

10:31This one's face.

10:35We were just talking about that.

10:36He always shows his teeth.

10:38It's expensive.

10:40Altogether, it'll be between $10,000 and $15,000.

10:44For this portion of it?

10:46Just the freezing eggs.

10:46Okay.

10:47But it would be nice if there was, like, this checklist that says,

10:50okay, keep in mind storage costs.

10:54Keep in mind genetic testing of embryos.

10:57Keep in mind IVF.

10:58These are all of the anticipated costs down the line.

11:01If Amy does decide to use her frozen eggs to conceive a child,

11:05the $10,000 to $15,000 she's paying for her procedure will eventually be compounded

11:10to upwards of $40,000 when all is said and done.

11:18How are you?

11:19I'm great, thanks.

11:20Okay, so you started your period yesterday.

11:21Yes.

11:22All right.

11:22So now this is, like, the most important test I can do is to look at your ovaries,

11:27and I'll show you the follicles that contain the eggs that gives me how many eggs I can get from

11:31you.

11:32So go ahead and put your feet up in the syrup.

11:35Okay.

11:36So as the probe goes in, it's not exactly comfortable.

11:40I know it's not comfortable.

11:41This is your right ovary.

11:43These black circles are eggs, okay?

11:47Oh, wow.

11:47So I have to count them, right?

11:49So one, two, three, four, five.

11:54Now this is the left ovary.

11:55So on this side, I can see about six.

11:58Actually, seven.

12:00So you can sit up.

12:02Okay.

12:02So these two together, the 12 follicles together are called an entral follicle count.

12:11You want that number to be over eight.

12:13So at your age, this is actually perfect numbers.

12:17Well then, we're done here, right?

12:19We're done.

12:20Thanks.

12:21Bye-bye.

12:24You know, yes, I have friends and they all have babies and husbands and full lives.

12:29And it's a beautiful thing and something that I've always wanted for myself.

12:32And then you look back and you're like, how did I, what was I doing?

12:38And I mean, I know what I was doing and it comes down to timing and personal choices.

12:44You know, I moved for a job and I came back and, you know, five years in one relationship

12:49with someone who didn't want kids and four years in another relationship.

12:53And, you know, you make these choices and life moves on, but that's nine years of being

12:58in relationships right there.

12:59that's where the time goes, you know?

13:02And so admitting that you want this for yourself.

13:05Here I go.

13:11And why are you tearing up now?

13:13Um, it's admitting to yourself that it's so important to you.

13:17Mm-hmm.

13:18You know, and it, it makes you vulnerable.

13:22It makes you vulnerable in your relationships.

13:24Mm-hmm.

13:25Because you have to be honest about what you want.

13:29And there is a sense of urgency.

13:30There is a sense of timing about this and you can't turn back.

13:35And so admitting to yourself that this is pretty much the highest priority for you.

13:44And I really just want to make it happen, you know?

13:49Amy isn't alone in how she feels.

13:51Many women are feeling the need to secure their eggs for the future.

13:54And ever since the procedure's experimental label has been lifted,

13:58fertility clinics have started to offer egg freezing as an elective procedure.

14:02For-profit, third-party brokers have also sprung up,

14:05serving as a go-between, connecting women with fertility doctors.

14:10EggBanks is one of the largest egg freezing brokers in the world

14:12and also happens to be how Amy found her fertility doctor.

14:16We're going to go speak with Gina Bartesi, the CEO of EggBanks,

14:20which is a company that sells egg freezing to women

14:24through these egg freezing parties.

14:29Can you tell me about EggBanks? What is EggBanks?

14:31Yeah. EggBanks is a national network of 185 reproductive endocrinologists,

14:37or fertility doctors, that specialize in egg freezing.

14:39We've been called kind of the Uber for the fertility industry.

14:43In Uber's case, they pay the drivers, and in our case, we pay the fertility doctors.

14:47Patients can purchase egg freezing cycles directly online.

14:51We have negotiated exclusive pricing with 185 fertility doctors in the country.

14:56We're really about a mission of empowerment and giving women options and choices.

15:01Can you tell me about the egg freezing parties?

15:04Yeah, so the average age at our EggBanks cocktail parties are 33.

15:08We started them as egg freezing events.

15:11We wanted to get like-minded professional women in an intimate, fun setting.

15:16Our goal is to help them become educated that the science has improved significantly over the last couple of years,

15:22and then to just give it to them in a transparent, easy-to-access way.

15:27EggBanks is a pretty incredible and a new entity.

15:31It's the first network of fertility doctors specializing in egg freezing,

15:36and we offer exclusive savings for women because it's not expensive.

15:40The commercialization of egg freezing is an area that's, again, new,

15:45because egg freezing is new, and it's controversial.

15:48And I'm not 100% in favor of it at this point.

15:51I think one of the most important things is a young woman who makes a reproductive decision

15:55is being fully advised and informed of everything that's going on.

15:58What do you think about the brokers who facilitate egg freezing, like egg banks?

16:03Mm-hmm.

16:04I think they're out there marketing their wares, and they're trying to make money on that as a business does.

16:11They're trying to persuade women by making them fearful that they're not going to be able to have children naturally.

16:18It's a hard sell.

16:20If you're almost 40, I think all these doctors are going to say,

16:23OK, you need to talk to an egg bank, somebody in the back, and figure out how you're going to

16:28preserve your fertility today.

16:29But Mark, Mark, what do you need to tell them?

16:30The way it's being discussed and marketed is liberating and empowering,

16:35because those are words that really are meaningful to us,

16:38that we've struggled for a long time to be able to be liberated and empowered,

16:43and it's an ongoing struggle for women to be those things.

16:45And then that language is used back at us in a technology like this to sell services that cost tens

16:53of thousands of dollars.

16:54Is it really liberating? Is it really empowering?

16:56You know, maybe it is, but do ask yourself that question.

16:59I think don't take it on faith that if they say it's liberating and empowering,

17:03it really is liberating and empowering.

17:05What would be liberating and empowering would be for women to be able to feel that they really did have

17:10a choice

17:10about whether they have child now or later, that it was a real choice,

17:13as opposed to feeling like you're backed into a corner.

17:19In addition to the questionable marketing strategies used by egg-freezing brokers,

17:24critics take issue with the success rates they advertise,

17:27and it's hard not to think that they're capitalizing on a phenomenon that's as modern as the women it affects,

17:33FOMO, fear of missing out.

17:36Critics would say that you're selling women on a narrative,

17:40but not really being upfront about the potential lack of efficacy.

17:47Yeah, so we're actually not selling women on anything.

17:49They're more savvy consumers than that.

17:51They've done their homework.

17:52They know that there's not a guarantee with any kind of reproductive science or opportunity.

17:58I mean, you said consumers, but aren't they really patients?

18:01Yeah, they are. That's right. Consumers, patients, same thing, yeah.

18:05So what are the statistics of getting a live birth from freezing your eggs?

18:10And I'll tell you, the biggest thing right now is it's hard to get statistics from egg-freezing,

18:15and the reason is because there's a relatively new technology that's being used to freeze eggs,

18:20and that technology is called vitrification that says we're going to freeze eggs when you're younger,

18:24and then when you're older, you're 38 or older, you're 35 and older,

18:27you can use those frozen eggs to conceive a healthy live birth down the road.

18:33So that's the data that exists.

18:35Those success rates are anywhere from 50 to 65 percent.

18:38That's 50 to 65 percent per lot of six embryos.

18:42The stats that companies like egg banks point to aren't necessarily inaccurate,

18:46but there is definitely a difference in the way that a business out to make money frames them

18:50compared to how they're presented in scientific studies.

18:54Okay, so one way to think about it is for each frozen egg,

18:58what's the chance that that egg will, down the line, turn into a live baby?

19:04And the professional organization of fertility clinics called SART,

19:09they put that rate at 2 to 12 percent for each egg for all ages of women combined.

19:16And the meta-analysis data, they're looking at 75, 6, 7 percent failure rate for women age 30,

19:26close to 90 percent failure rate for women age 40.

19:29Do you think that the women who elect to do this are aware of the failure rates?

19:36If they're getting their information from the fertility clinics

19:39or from the brokers that have sprung up to facilitate egg freezing,

19:45they're not going to know this.

19:47In addition to these relatively low success rates,

19:50the sample sizes are incredibly small.

19:52To date, only about 2,000 babies have been born from frozen eggs worldwide.

19:57If more women were made aware of this information,

19:59it's difficult to imagine many would spend their money on such a costly procedure.

20:04Time to pick up the meds.

20:09I think in part because the fertility industry has developed in the public sector,

20:13it's not covered by most health insurance in this country,

20:16and people are paying out of pocket.

20:18It's a lucrative business,

20:21and nobody has an interest in finding out what the long-term effects are.

20:28We've got a big bag over here.

20:30So it involves taking a couple of weeks of injections of powerful hormonal drugs

20:36to first shut down your ovaries and then hyper-stimulate them.

20:40The hormonal drugs that are used are quite powerful,

20:43and many are used off-label,

20:46so they were never originally developed or approved by the FDA

20:49for the purpose of egg retrieval.

20:53And it's really disturbing that after egg retrieval has been going on for a couple of decades,

21:00there's really inadequate data and evidence about the level of its safety or risks.

21:06So that's a really important thing for women to know about and to think about.

21:13They upped my dosage.

21:15It's actually twice as much as we discussed in the appointment.

21:18And they said because my follicle count was somewhat low,

21:22he counted 12 follicles at the last appointment.

21:25So they want me to do double the amount.

21:29I'm supposed to do this to my dosage,

21:33which is 375, 2, 3, 75.

21:46This is what I learned by watching those movies.

21:49You're supposed to get the bubbles out.

21:55Well, so they said do it about an inch below your belly button or to the side.

22:01And I have a couple more shots to go, so I'll just pick a spot, I guess.

22:08I'm scared. I'm actually really effing scared. I hate this.

22:13Effing...

22:14Okay, I'm supposed to hear clicking.

22:25That's one.

22:27I did it to 375.

22:29I think I did it right.

22:32Moving down the line.

22:33It all depends on what you want to expose your body to

22:36because you're taking, you know, 10 to 12 days of hormone injections.

22:41Sure.

22:41So, you know, it's a commitment and you have to do what's right for your situation.

22:47It's in there.

22:54So we're here at Dr. Sahakian's office and Amy is being prepped for her procedure right now.

22:59She just got an IV and some pre-op antibiotics.

23:03She's going to get some propofol that is going to put her out like she's sleeping for a little bit.

23:08And the procedure should only take about 15 minutes and then she should have her eggs.

23:19I don't look forward to a world where people undertake risky and strenuous medical procedures

23:26that they have a high chance of not needing.

23:28I think it would be a dystopian future for me

23:31in which that was the way that we dealt with and responded to women's bodies.

23:37I think that it would mean that we had failed on a number of counts to support women and families

23:43and family building.

23:45Are you awake still?

23:48That's how we know you're sleeping when you stop talking.

23:52The day has come to do the procedure to see how many eggs I can get from her today.

23:57So she's in her 30s, so she's not going to have lots of eggs, but I'm glad she's doing this.

24:04So if you look at the screen, you're going to see one nicely here in a second.

24:09That big follicle you see, the big black circle, you see that needle tip, I just went in and it's

24:16going to collapse around my needle tip.

24:18So this is how you do egg retrievals.

24:20It's one by one you go in and aspirate these follicles and hope that there's a good egg in it

24:26that comes up.

24:27And I just basically go one by one and take these eggs.

24:33Are you happy with the amount of eggs that you guys managed to get?

24:37We'll see. We'll see how many. I mean, I wish she has more.

24:40I always wish somebody has more at her age, but I think she did pretty well for her age and

24:46she might still have to do this one more time.

24:48In about 10 minutes, we'll know how many eggs we got from her.

24:54Why shouldn't women try to have it all?

24:56It doesn't seem unreasonable to me that women should want to have a partner and a career that's satisfying and

25:02also a family.

25:03That doesn't seem to me to be asking too much.

25:05The question is, how do we help make that happen?

25:08Progress to me would actually be that women and men in their 20s and 30s were actually well-placed to

25:17have families.

25:18Not that everybody was putting it off later and later and later. I wouldn't see that as progress.

25:23Things have changed so much for women in recent decades, in many ways for the better.

25:29And I think that egg freezing is going backwards in a big way.

25:32It's a hyper-individualized solution to a very broad social problem that we should be tackling with changes in our

25:40social policies and our cultural expectations.

25:42What women need is to really have a culture where they're not going to be punished for taking maternity leave.

25:50And I'd like to see, you know, better quality childcare with childcare workers who are better paid and more highly

25:56valued.

25:57So that we can leave our kids when they're little and not worry about them and be able to afford

26:03it and balance out working and taking care of kids.

26:08Hey, Amy. How are you?

26:10Good. Thank you so much.

26:12You feel good?

26:13Yeah.

26:13Okay. 13 eggs.

26:15Are you serious?

26:17That was so much better than we thought the last time.

26:20Yeah. So, get on TV.

26:25But you still, we'll talk more, but you probably need to do it one more time.

26:29Okay.

26:29And I want 20 and up, so.

26:31Yeah.

26:31So, as far as Amy's age, is this considered a successful retreat?

26:35Yes. Yeah.

26:35Okay.

26:35This is what you expect to get.

26:37Okay.

26:38So, I would say, you know, she did well.

26:41Do you think you're going to do another round of this?

26:44I'm not sure.

26:46But like the doctor said, it's all just about opportunity and peace of mind.

26:53So, every additional egg I can get after this would be even more reassuring to me.

27:00But for now, I'm just happy with where I am.

27:04While both egg freezing proponents and critics agree that women face an uphill battle in society,

27:09there's a split on whether the problems we face can be addressed with what those in support see as a

27:14technological fix.

27:15The big question is whether this is a fix at all.

27:18Is counting on egg freezing as a form of family planning just a different way of putting all your eggs

27:23in one basket?

27:24Meanwhile, many continue to argue that offering this procedure only exacerbates the inequality that women already experience,

27:31putting even more of the burden of fertility back on women's shoulders.

27:35It is good for them.

27:49You can't do that.

27:53I'm fully satisfied with the proof of cancer.

27:54I don't want to work and I don't know what it is.

27:54I don't know what it is.

27:54I don't know who I am.

27:55I'm just hoping to watch myself and I don't know who I am.

27:55You can find my estate.

27:56I mean I'm just going to work for that I don't know why I can like that.

27:56You

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