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Hamm Samwich joins comedian Jacqueline Novak on How To Weep In Public to talk about mental health, more specifically anger.

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00:00You know that my therapist doesn't believe that I suffer from depression
00:03and I'm beginning to think that I don't either. I think what I have is a kind of
00:08anxiety that it's maybe comorbid with a rage problem that is activated
00:14literally just in when I'm running late. So excuse me?
00:36Sorry my dog is acting out. I love Howard. I love Howard. Oh there he goes he's going to sleep.
00:41Oh my god. Well I had to take him with me because my apartment is a hellscape at the moment.
00:46Yes. It's covered in broken glass. Really? There's a door. Oh from Rage. Kicked in. Rage? Yeah. Yours. Because I
00:54got highly pigmented red lipstick on my chin.
00:59In the final stages of makeup. No. I freaked out. About five minutes from being out the door. I freaked
01:04out. And absolutely spiraled. Do you like to throw? Do you like to punch? Yeah. So I don't know if
01:09that's a depressive symptom as much as it is. Well. Maybe a kind of less enchanting behavioral issue. I mean
01:15depression is you know it's not that enchanting. It's kind of a drag. I mean I prefer I think I'd
01:20be more into rage comorbid with anxiety. You know what I mean? Comorbidity. You know two things dying next to
01:28each other.
01:32I think that whoever was in charge of creating this language that we speak did a very bad job with
01:36every genital word. I could not agree more. Can we just spend one moment on this? Okay. And language is
01:42important to us you know. And it also finds its way into the ways that we talk to ourselves. Okay.
01:48Which we can talk. Self talk. Negative self talk. Negative self talk. You know. It can really lead into things.
01:53But. But. Penis. You know it's so stupid.
01:58Penis. Yeah. I mean it's literally like. Want to hear a comparable word? Like um. I want to use all
02:03different consonants so it's not leaning on the same guy. So it's going to be like dupus.
02:06And then it's like too close. Okay. Even dupus would be better. I mean. Yeah. Yeah. I mean like. For
02:13that. Wait. Wait.
02:16Penis. First of all you have to like. Nasalize the E. So you sound like a. You sound like a
02:21whiny little. Yeah. Peen. And then. And then niss.
02:26Penis is bad in a different way than vagina. They're completely different. Do you want to know why they're horrible?
02:30Yeah. In my estimation. Absolutely. Okay. Okay. It's. It's.
02:37It's like. It's trying to open it. As it does. Things like. Spittle is moving with it. Like. It's like.
02:44Isomorphic. You're trying. Yes. It's like mimics the actual.
02:48Get in now. Get in now. Like.
02:54I can't even get through it. It's disgusting. I don't believe a rose by any other name. Okay. I. No.
03:00A different name is a different rose. Some are better.
03:02Yeah.
03:05Jacqueline. What I was going to say. Yeah. Is that I really hate the word bipolar.
03:09I. I vastly prefer. Manic depression. Manic depressive. Yeah. Because. Um. I don't. And I don't really know what to.
03:16I don't know how to. I don't know if it really is just syllable count. How chewy it is to
03:20say manic depressive.
03:21And how great it is. And how. Uh. It seems to poetically. Yeah. Encapture. Encastulate both states. Right. Mania and
03:29depression. Right.
03:30Whereas bipolar you're just saying. I have two states. Right. That I have two states. Right. But some people feel
03:36that. You know.
03:37The language. Right. Having a diagnosis. You know. Sort of. Sort of. Feeling around for your diagnosis.
03:43Landing it. Landing at a good one that you can really sink into. Yeah. Yeah.
03:48And pilot. Absolutely. You know. You can drive that diagnosis. Yes. And you know. Oh. Now that you call yourself
03:54depressed you are depressed.
03:55No. Actually I'm less depressed now that I've compartmentalized it. Absolutely. With the language.
03:59Okay. So here's the thing though. Is that we. Unfortunately. Like we're all of this generation. We all have our
04:04phones. We all have like.
04:05Right. We all grew up with the porn on the web or whatever. You know. We don't have. We don't
04:09have mortgages.
04:10So okay. But we also have maybe. Something it's not. It's not just a fault of our generation.
04:16Is. But it's a good thing. Is that we are entitled to our diagnoses. We would like our. The language
04:24that we use to describe our feelings.
04:26Right. To match up. To kind of map onto it in a way that feels accurate. And I think that
04:32that's not just.
04:33Us being brats. Self-absorbed. Yeah. I think that it's absolutely important. Even in a context where we are allowed
04:39to talk about mental health at all.
04:44I find talking to you about depression and emotions all that stuff like so delightful.
04:48Uh-huh. And like our text messages like really do a lot for me. Oh good. Likewise. Do you find
04:53them with value as well?
04:54Absolutely. I certainly feel this about you. That there is permission to unload. Yes. Without the pressure to respond.
05:01Uh-huh. In full immediately. There are things where I go. Okay. I can just dump this into this. Yes.
05:06Text message thread. At least. Jacqueline will eventually appreciate the emotion. Yes. And the way it's articulated. Yes.
05:13And I won't have to waste time convincing a less intelligent. Ugh. Less emotionally aware friend. Yes.
05:19Uh. Just getting them up to speed before I can even begin to tell them. Amazing. This is just what
05:22I want to hear.
05:22Yeah. You just serve it up. You leave it in my inbox. Yeah. I mean I meant that metaphorically. And
05:26then accidentally used technology.
05:28You know once again language fails us. This has been Howard. Named after Stern. Yes?
05:36Yeah. Howard Stern. King of all media. That's his full name.
05:39Ham sandwich. Howard Stern. King of all media. And I'm Jacqueline Novak. This was How to Weep in Public. Please
05:47watch the rest of the videos.
05:50Gorgeous. Gorgeous.
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