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00:00Well, Aaron, it's been so long.
00:02We've not touched base, so there's a lot to sort of pour over here.
00:07What's your overall on the Bills' status right now?
00:11They're one of the top favorites in the AFC for the Super Bowl,
00:15they're in the Ravens.
00:16That's unchanged.
00:18As much as I respect the betting markets and the odds,
00:22I feel a little bit like there should be more respect given to the changes
00:28that have happened here.
00:29And I feel like assuming it's all just going to be full speed ahead
00:33because they've got 17, as much as I love him and respect his game,
00:38I don't know.
00:39I feel like there's just a little bit too much of shrugging off new system
00:44on defense and Joe Brady, first-time head coach.
00:48I don't know.
00:48What's your overall right now?
00:50Yeah, I'm trying to find what the pulse is, right,
00:53because everything I'm seeing, like you're saying, betting markets,
00:55national media, everyone still has the Bills as one of those top contenders
01:00in the AFC.
01:01But, like, locally when you're talking to people,
01:04and I don't know if this is just us kind of becoming an entitled fan base
01:08in some ways of just, you know, they've been so good in the regular season,
01:11but it hasn't led to the success people have wanted.
01:14So, you know, it's kind of a, oh, I'll believe it when I see it type of
01:17mentality from the fan base.
01:19But the excitement doesn't feel like it normally does this many weeks out
01:23from training camp, right, like it has in the past.
01:26And so that's a weird thing I'm trying to wrap my head around.
01:29And I think it's probably somewhere in the middle of the local vibe I'm getting
01:33and the national vibe.
01:34I think you're right.
01:35There's a lot of questions.
01:36I think many in the national media are just assuming because Joe Brady was here
01:42and the offense was really good that that is going to stay intact.
01:46But him becoming a head coach is a big unknown, right?
01:49We know whatever you want to say about Sean McDermott,
01:52you could go back through many seasons, whether it was, you know,
01:55all the COVID stuff, DeMar Hamlin,
01:57having to move games in the middle of the season.
02:00Something sort of always came up where you needed that type of leadership
02:03that I think he provided.
02:04And that's an unknown in this Joe Brady era is the marathon of the season.
02:09Like I know he's a good offensive mind.
02:11I think the guys like him and they'll rally around him.
02:13But there's another element of leading a group of men that we just don't know
02:17how he's going to handle it.
02:18And I think the same is true on Jim Leonard,
02:20who I'm a little bit more excited about as a defensive coordinator
02:23than I am about Joe Brady as a head coach.
02:26And there's still a lot of unknown, right?
02:28Like he wasn't the defensive coordinator of the Denver Broncos.
02:31And I think we all point to how good that defense was
02:33and kind of associate that with Jim Leonard.
02:36And while I like Jim Leonard, I like what he did at Wisconsin.
02:39I think he's a bright young mind.
02:40I don't think this is going to be the iteration of the Jim Leonard defense
02:44that necessarily he wants.
02:46It won't be a finished product in the first year because these aren't all his guys,
02:50right?
02:50He's using pieces and parts from a previous defense that he has to kind of morph
02:55into maybe something that isn't his preferred style of defense
02:58because he doesn't have all the guys to run exactly how he would want to.
03:02So I think there will be some growing pains,
03:05but I don't think that should stop anyone from being excited.
03:07You said it.
03:08You still have 17.
03:09You still have a lot of – you still have James Cook,
03:11one of the best running backs in football.
03:12You still have one of the better offensive lines in football.
03:14I like the skill position room.
03:16There are talented players on the defensive side of the ball
03:19that I think scheme could get a little bit more out of
03:22than we've seen in the last couple of years from the Sean McDermott era.
03:25So there's things to be excited about,
03:27but kind of just trying to feel out where this team's going to be, man.
03:31You used the word morph there, and that's a big – the fact that you've got –
03:38I think – I know Landon Jackson put on weight.
03:41I think I've read about Deion Walker dropping weight, and, like, I don't know.
03:45When I get to, like, I'm changing guys' bodies –
03:48like, they did this with A.J. Epinesa, I feel like, twice, right?
03:52Wasn't he – was he light when he got here and they wanted him to be heavy
03:55and then they said, no, you should actually go back to light
03:57or vice versa, whatever that was.
04:00Whenever you get into that, I just – look, anything can work,
04:03and maybe both of those guys will be important pieces here.
04:07Jackson had a lost year, basically.
04:09Walker, I thought, was a guy that might have even salvaged the whole draft class
04:13with how well he played.
04:14And so I think the arrow's pointing up on him,
04:17but when you're asking guys to alter their bodies, I just – I worry about –
04:24in one offseason, that's where I go, okay, do I have the guys I need here
04:29or is this going to be a work in progress?
04:31The best I can do to get – because I also – I like the Leonard hire.
04:35It was certainly one of the guys that was at or near the top of the list,
04:39in my mind, going into the process.
04:42So I'm glad that they reeled him in.
04:45Maybe the most optimistic I can get about it, if you share a concern like I do
04:51about the personnel and whether they've got the right pieces or not,
04:54is that maybe that gets figured out as the year goes on
04:57and he figures out how to use different guys in different ways or whatever,
05:03and maybe they're really running hot by the time we get to the end
05:08and that's what matters the most.
05:10Yeah, the first point, I do agree with you.
05:13The PR stuff of the spring where it's like, oh, so-and-so comes in looking so big
05:18or he gained this weight.
05:19You can put weight on a mediocre player.
05:22It's not going to make them an elite player, right?
05:24Like there's still some things.
05:25Landon Jackson specifically, that type of athletic frame, he's not super bendy.
05:31Like he doesn't have the type of athleticism that I like,
05:33and I know people kind of want to kick him in,
05:35and he's done some of that stuff in the past, and maybe the size will help.
05:38But to me, that's a guy fighting for a roster spot, right?
05:41Like he's trying to find a way to cling to a roster spot.
05:44And I think, you know, a Dwayne Carter is another example of that,
05:47a guy that's putting on weight, trying to find a way to stay on a roster.
05:50But in terms of the other guys, and I know on the defensive line
05:53and even in the linebacker room, there's some questions on the fits
05:57and the types for in this transition to all the talk about a 3-4
06:01in the Jim Leonard defense.
06:02But the thing that gives me at least optimism of this is the type of coach
06:07that I've seen Jim Leonard be when he was in Wisconsin
06:09and what we know of him from his time in Denver
06:13and just some of the clinics you can watch.
06:15One of my biggest frustrations of the Sean McDermott era,
06:18as much as I like Sean McDermott and the success this team had,
06:22it felt like he often wanted players to kind of fit the mold of his scheme.
06:27And I think Jim Leonard's a little bit the opposite,
06:29where he does have an idealistic version of what the scheme should be,
06:33in his opinion, but he's going to put players in a position to be successful.
06:36So I think he'll bend his scheme more to the talent that's in the room,
06:40where Sean McDermott was so into his own scheme at times
06:45that I don't know that he always fit it to the players that he had.
06:49He didn't always work with the ingredients list that he was given
06:52to do it the right way.
06:53He just expected those guys to play their 1 of 11 within the scheme.
06:56And I think Leonard will be a little bit more freestyle, if you will,
07:00especially in this first year where he doesn't have all the fits that he would like.
07:03I'm glad you mentioned Dwayne Carter,
07:04because I think I've made this mistake at least one other time.
07:07I think I'm confusing him and Deion Walker.
07:10It is Carter I read about putting on weight, too, like Jackson,
07:14and I think I made the thing about Walker up.
07:17I think it's in the wrong shelf in my brain, I think.
07:23So I'm glad I think we got that corrected.
07:25Aaron Quinn from Cover One on the West Her Hotline with us.
07:29How do you think overall they'll do as far as pass rush goes?
07:34I mean, we've seen the addition of Bradley Chubb
07:37and the draft pick of TJ Parker.
07:41I think if they get any kind of a boost in pass rush,
07:47it's not so much going to be like that somebody goes and gets 12 or 15 sacks,
07:53but I think the scheme might just generate more pressure,
07:57and like overall they may just get more sacks.
07:59But I'm not sure they have still a hellraiser there,
08:03unless Rousseau is freed up with the new position.
08:09Yeah, this is going to be a very interesting thing to see.
08:11Because at one, I actually think the pass rush itself
08:16wasn't maybe as bad as it felt.
08:18The problem with Sean McDermott and this defense
08:20was that it never came through in the big games
08:23and the big moments that you needed the pass rush to come through.
08:26So you had some statistics that looked okay for the regular season,
08:30but in the big moments that pass rush wasn't able to generate
08:33the type of pressure you need against the elite teams
08:34and the elite quarterbacks, where I think Jim Leonard
08:37is going to do that with scheme.
08:39I am a little bit worried about the personnel
08:41in terms of just a guy that can line up
08:44and win one-on-one consistently.
08:45I don't know that they have that type of pass rusher.
08:48That kind of was my disappointment in the TJ Parker pick.
08:51I'm hoping he proves me wrong that he can be a guy
08:54that can win some of that one-on-one.
08:56He doesn't necessarily win in the way that I like to see edges win,
08:59and that's something this spring I've been going through is,
09:01you know, the Bills aren't going to probably go get that bendy,
09:05super athletic edge that I'm looking for
09:07in terms of, like, the aesthetic of an end.
09:10But that doesn't mean these guys can't win and get pressure, right?
09:12There's plenty of different types of guys,
09:14and they all win in different ways.
09:16Last year, I got a little bit killed
09:18because I was, this time of year, I was super high on Greg Rousseau,
09:21and I thought he was going to ascend into a top 15-type defensive end.
09:25And I think he played really well.
09:27I really do.
09:28I think he still is on the cusp.
09:29And he had some big moments as the season wound down.
09:33He didn't quite get to where I thought his ceiling could get to.
09:36That doesn't mean he's not going to.
09:38I think he could still do that this year.
09:39But you didn't pair him with the type of guy that I think makes him a better
09:44pass rusher.
09:45You paired him with a guy that's almost a mirror image of him and Bradley Chubb.
09:49And so I'm interested to see how they're able to generate, you know,
09:51if they just line up guys on the line, are they able to generate pass rush?
09:55Or is this something that Jim Leonard's going to have to bring some delayed
09:58pressures, bring some creepers, bring some different looks,
10:00bring a safety down into the box and blitzing Dorian Williams, right?
10:03And trying to generate pressure through scheme.
10:06And I do think that, again,
10:09is the thing that gives me optimism to maybe throw a little bit more at some
10:12of these elite quarterbacks in those big moments is Jim Leonard isn't scared
10:16to kind of get a little bit ballsy with the blitz packages and do some more
10:20creeper stuff that at times Sean McDermott kind of, again,
10:23leaned back into the scheme and, hey,
10:24we'll just play our coverage and rush four and hope that that works.
10:27I don't think you'll get that type of thing from Leonard.
10:29I think he'll be more aggressive trying to create that pressure.
10:32How do you like the back end?
10:34I'll skip the middle for now because the linebacking core might be a little
10:37sketchy at this point.
10:39I was talking with Nate Geary about this yesterday.
10:42But the secondary,
10:44I wonder if they might not sort of be back to being a strength of the team.
10:50I really like Bishop.
10:54And I think he's someone who took a step last year.
10:58And if there's another step that could be really good,
11:00even if he just plateaus,
11:01I still think you've got a very good player there.
11:04I'm very excited and intrigued by C.J.
11:06Gardner-Johnson.
11:07And I wonder,
11:09I've told Sal this a few times,
11:10like I haven't gotten anybody to take my action,
11:13but I might bet that IGB beats out Maxwell Hairston.
11:19That's interesting.
11:20Something Greg and I kind of were talking about a little bit yesterday.
11:22We did our linebacker show,
11:24but we were kind of talking like there is so many unknowns,
11:27right?
11:27Like we assume maybe certain guys in the linebacker room,
11:31like a Dorian Williams or a Max Hairston,
11:33you know,
11:34in that Sean McDermott era,
11:35the vets that were established,
11:37even if they weren't that good,
11:38even if they were just mediocre,
11:40sort of had a leg up going into camp on maybe some of the new additions.
11:44Right.
11:45And those guys had to earn their way into those spots.
11:48It's a clean slate for a lot of these guys.
11:50So they are invested in the Max Hairston.
11:52Right.
11:52But that doesn't mean that he's guaranteed a job in this defense,
11:55but I will say that back end might be the thing I'm most excited about with
12:00this Jim Leonard defense.
12:01Obviously he cut his teeth in the league on the back end.
12:03I think he's done incredible things,
12:05both at Wisconsin and in the Broncos with some of the players on the back
12:08end of defenses.
12:10I think the player that's probably going to benefit the most from Jim Leonard
12:13is Cole Bishop.
12:14I am expecting a huge leap forward.
12:17Last year was a fantastic foundation for him.
12:20I think that's his floor,
12:21which is absolutely great.
12:22I think the bills are going to have a long-term safety answer there as a
12:25floor.
12:26And then you said it,
12:28adding a guy like CJ Gardner Johnson.
12:30I didn't like that last year when people wanted to trade for the Sean
12:33McDermott defense,
12:34I didn't like him as a fit in the Sean McDermott defense.
12:36I didn't think that was a good fit at all in the Jim Leonard defense.
12:39I actually really love this next to Cole Bishop.
12:42I think there's a lot of things you can do with the two of those guys.
12:44And I think a guy that's going to be really sneaky as a,
12:47like a utility weapon in this defense is Jalen Kilgore.
12:51I absolutely loved that draft pick.
12:55I hope I'm not put again,
12:56a little bit too ahead of myself on the excitement of him.
13:00Cause he is still a draft pick.
13:01He is going to have to develop,
13:01but I think the bills are in a great position.
13:03They have two starting caliber safety,
13:05so they don't need him to come in and be a starting safety right away.
13:08They have the nickel sort of figured out as well.
13:11I think,
13:11I think they can really put him in as a,
13:14that hybrid piece that the NFL is starting to kind of go towards,
13:17which might help with the other conversation that we'll have here at the
13:20linebacker position,
13:21some of these hybrid type guys that they have on that back end.
13:24So I like a lot of the pieces.
13:27And if you go back and watch some of the Wisconsin film,
13:30especially on third downs,
13:31right?
13:31Third down was a big issue last year for the Buffalo bills.
13:34If it was third and 10 or more,
13:36it was almost a guarantee.
13:36The other team was going to pick that up,
13:38go back and watch the Rose bowl,
13:41Wisconsin versus Oregon,
13:43Justin Herbert,
13:45Jim Leonard went on an absolute clinic on third downs.
13:48And I know that's college and it might not translate to the NFL,
13:50but just the type of looks and adding defensive backs to the field.
13:55And you don't know where guys are coming from.
13:57You don't know who's in,
13:57who's down,
13:58who's up.
13:59That's the kind of stuff that just tricks quarterbacks.
14:01And we just haven't seen anything like that in Buffalo.
14:03So I'm really excited about this back end group.
14:06And I know there was a lot of conversation about Christian Benford this past
14:09week.
14:10Cause a Jeremy Fowler's executive scouts report,
14:13and he didn't get in that top 10.
14:15I'm okay with that.
14:16If you want to stack chips on Christian Benford shoulder,
14:18please,
14:19by all means,
14:19I think he's a top end player and all the defensive guys that I've talked
14:23to,
14:23you know,
14:24he might've trended a little bit down last year from previous years,
14:28but I'm still buying stock on Christian Benford.
14:30I'm glad you mentioned Kilgore.
14:31You heard me make a sound.
14:32I,
14:33I,
14:33and I,
14:34I might be,
14:35I definitely do this.
14:36Like you're saying like,
14:37Oh,
14:37I hope I'm not just getting carried away.
14:39I,
14:39it happens to me.
14:40I,
14:41since Kyle Hamilton showed up,
14:43I wanted him in worry two drafts ago and see what he's done in Seattle.
14:47And I'll kill war is not that guy.
14:50Uh,
14:51athletic profile wise entirely,
14:53but a joker type guy that I'm just going to move.
14:55Oh,
14:56is he playing safety?
14:57Is he playing slot corner?
14:58Is he playing linebacker?
15:00Like what,
15:00where is he?
15:01I love having a guy that you can use like that.
15:04I just,
15:04it,
15:04I always get lost in it.
15:06And I do think the trend in the league is toward that sort of player.
15:11So hopefully Leonard has plans for him.
15:15You know,
15:15who's another sneaky guy that kind of fits that mold a little bit.
15:18And I think they misused them under McDermott is I think Jordan Hancock can be
15:22another one of those type of guys that can be a weapon.
15:24I don't think he's a true safety.
15:25And so when they lined them up to play safety,
15:27I think that wasn't a benefit to him.
15:29I think he's a guy that can be almost like what Cam Lewis was,
15:33but I think better.
15:34So both those guys are,
15:35are young,
15:36good players.
15:36And I'm excited that a creative mind,
15:39like Jim Leonard who has a background as a defensive back is going to
15:43utilize to their fullest potential.
15:45All right.
15:46So linebacker,
15:47I don't know how much time you want to spend here,
15:48but I'm,
15:49I'm not,
15:50I'm a little,
15:50Bernard shook me up last year.
15:52I love,
15:53I love him coming in,
15:55replacing Edmonds.
15:56And we saw like splash plays right away.
15:59I'm like,
15:59okay,
15:59that's our guy,
16:00but he's so undersized.
16:02And I feel like he's taken a beating.
16:04And I just wonder if,
16:06you know,
16:06that hasn't cost him some of his,
16:08his speed and explosiveness.
16:11It could.
16:12I don't know.
16:13It's,
16:14you definitely could see the injury was impactful a year ago.
16:17Right.
16:18And I think that him,
16:20he even kind of mentioned trying to play through some of that stuff almost
16:23to you know,
16:25a detriment to the team,
16:26which isn't good.
16:27He,
16:27he sort of talked about that this year.
16:29I am expecting it healthy that he's going to fit this defense actually
16:33really well.
16:33I think Jim Leonard's while it isn't replicated from like a Baylor defense,
16:39it's got some elements of what he was doing in Baylor.
16:43So I think he's going to have a good feel for this defense.
16:45I still think he's a playmaker.
16:46I think this is a guy that you want to get out in space to go make plays on
16:51the ball.
16:51And I think that Jim Leonard's going to try to utilize that.
16:53And even as a pass rusher,
16:55it was some of those different creeper pressures,
16:57different thing looks like that.
16:59I think that he's going to be impactful there.
17:01It's the matter of,
17:01do you think Terrell Bernard can stay healthy?
17:04I have a tough time with this one bulldog.
17:06I tend not to believe in injury prone.
17:10I know some guys go through bouts in their careers where they definitely stack
17:13up some injuries and he's kind of right on the cusp of being one of those
17:17guys that stacked up a couple injuries here recently and starting to get
17:20that label.
17:21So this is a big year for him to prove it.
17:23There's a few guys like that on the bills roster,
17:25but this will be a big one for him to prove it.
17:27Cause I think this room of the linebacker room really revolves around him.
17:31Right.
17:32I think we can talk about Dorian Williams or Elam or as a,
17:37another linebacker,
17:37but Terrell Bernard is going to be the one that really kind of stirs the drink
17:40in the middle of that defense.
17:42Yeah.
17:42Right.
17:43Yeah.
17:43Elam's or like,
17:44I'm,
17:45I don't want to assume he's a fourth round pick.
17:47Maybe,
17:47maybe he can show up and,
17:49and I'll play Williams and get on the field and it'll be,
17:53it'll be a strength for them,
17:54but it's,
17:55it's,
17:56it feels a little bit,
17:56a little bit risky to me to,
17:58to assume that.
17:59Yeah.
18:00He's a freak athlete.
18:01So I understand fans clamoring for it.
18:03And obviously the,
18:04the way Jim Leonard spoke about him,
18:06granted Dorian Williams wasn't in those activities early on in this part of
18:11the season.
18:11So he did jump him in,
18:13in those things and was taking reps of the starters.
18:15So I understand fans are excited.
18:18I actually hearken back to when Matt Milano was drafted on the show the other
18:23night and,
18:23and the Ramon Humber situation,
18:25right?
18:25Ramon Humber,
18:26I think was the starter for about six or,
18:28I don't want to say six,
18:30seven,
18:30because I'll get killed by my kids,
18:31but six or seven weeks here that season and Matt Milano started to come in
18:35and become the starter.
18:36I could see a situation play out where Dorian Williams is the starter to start
18:40the year.
18:40He's still a good player.
18:41I know people are down on him,
18:42but I think he's a fine football player and can play that weak side good
18:45enough at a mediocre level,
18:47but he's a high end special teams player.
18:50So he's going to earn himself a spot here.
18:52And then as the season goes on,
18:54I could see maybe the rookie taking over some of those reps as you get into the
18:58post season.
18:58I think the show is going to need to be pulled over Aaron,
19:01because we've just spent 20 minutes talking about the bills and have not
19:04talked about the offense at all.
19:08Well,
19:08we know what to expect,
19:09you know,
19:10right?
19:10Well,
19:10let me ask you about DJ Moore's ceiling,
19:13uh,
19:14that,
19:14and then I want to,
19:16uh,
19:16a quick take from you on,
19:17uh,
19:17if you're at all interested in Brandon cooks or anyone else for that
19:21matter,
19:21but that's the name that's certainly out there.
19:23What about more?
19:24Do you,
19:24do you think we're talking about a thousand,
19:261100 yard guy,
19:28or do you think the bills have forgotten how to feed a number one receiver?
19:33So this was an interesting one.
19:35Cause when Greg and I were doing kind of like our wish list and,
19:38and free agent shows and stuff,
19:40I had my eyes on more.
19:43And in talking to Greg a little bit,
19:44we were kind of like,
19:45man,
19:46I don't see how Brandon bean can pull off a move like this.
19:49That kind of,
19:49that's a big contract.
19:50I don't know where he gets the money to kind of make this deal happen.
19:53And it was like two weeks later,
19:55he makes the deal happen.
19:56And I love the player.
19:58So that was kind of my take was,
19:59Hey,
20:00I think this is too expensive.
20:01And I know a lot of people probably still felt that way.
20:03Even,
20:04even today they feel it's too expensive,
20:05but the player itself,
20:06if you take away the compensation,
20:08I love the fit.
20:09I love the player.
20:10I think he's super underrated in terms of the national media.
20:13I heard,
20:14I think it was Ryan Clark talking about why the Broncos were better.
20:17Cause they added Jalen Waddle.
20:18I think DJ Moore is just as good as,
20:21as Jalen Waddle without the injury history,
20:23right?
20:23Like he plays through those things.
20:24So I think he's a great fit.
20:26I think Josh Allen is dying for a guy that he can rely on and feed.
20:30So I do think he'll get targets,
20:32but more importantly,
20:33Bulldog,
20:33I think this is finally an opportunity for them to have a guy that pulls some
20:37real gravity away.
20:39So even if he's not getting huge numbers in production,
20:42defensive coordinators are going to want to know where DJ Moore is on the
20:45field.
20:45Cause he can put you played inside.
20:47He can go outside and when you're going to have to know where he is.
20:50And I think that opens up stuff for Khalil Shakir in the middle of the
20:53field.
20:53I think that was a struggle for Shakir.
20:56Especially when Kincaid wasn't on the field last year,
20:58you didn't have anyone really threatening the defense in a way where they
21:02could,
21:03you know,
21:03pull some attention away from the middle of the field in,
21:06in,
21:06in that scene.
21:07I think that DJ Moore is going to pull some of that attention and it's
21:11going to open up things for a guy like Dalton Kincaid and for a guy like
21:13Khalil Shakir.
21:14So again,
21:15even if he's not incredibly productive or his production continues to dip as
21:19his career ages out,
21:20I think just his presence on the field as a legitimate threat to be a number
21:24one type wide receiver,
21:25a low end one is a huge benefit for this bill team.
21:28And a quick take on Brandon cooks before you sail off.
21:32Yeah.
21:33Yeah.
21:33I love Brandon cooks.
21:35And again,
21:35in free agency,
21:36he was one of those guys where if the draft didn't work out the way you
21:39wanted,
21:40sure.
21:40Bring in Brandon cooks.
21:41If he,
21:41I don't see a spot for him on the roster as it stands outside of practice
21:46squad,
21:46unless you were able to get convinced some team to take on Joshua Palmer's
21:50contract and trade,
21:51or maybe trade Keon Coleman,
21:54if that was somehow available.
21:55But if Keon and Palmer are both on this roster,
21:58I just don't see where you bring in a guy at cook's age with his declining
22:03skill,
22:04even though I liked what he brought last year,
22:06he's not playing special teams,
22:07right?
22:07So you can't have a lot of those guys that are just sitting as your wide
22:11receiver five aren't really playing.
22:13The only path I can see as the roster stands now is if he's willing to hang
22:17out as a practice squad guy who's willing to be called up in case of
22:22emergency.
22:23You might need to sign him before you do any of that though.
22:26I wonder like if he's eager to get to camp,
22:28I thought it was interesting in the Tim Graham athletic piece that he wants to
22:33go to camp.
22:34Without having read that,
22:35I'm glad that Tim got that information because I would have sat in here
22:40going,
22:41ah,
22:41he'll probably just wait until mid August.
22:43But it sounds to me like that dude wants to go put the time in.
22:47I mean,
22:48if he wants to get into the Bills camp and not have anything guaranteed to him,
22:52I would absolutely throw him in there because injuries are going to happen.
22:55He is a good player.
22:56He's a good vet.
22:57I'd like him to,
22:57you know,
22:58a guy like Skylar Bell would benefit a ton from having a guy like that in the
23:01room.
23:01So I'm all for it.
23:02I just,
23:03I don't know if he would make,
23:04find a way to crack that active roster unless an injury or a trade occurred.
23:08Yep.
23:09All right,
23:09Aaron,
23:09excellent job as always enjoyed the visit very much.
23:12Where are we finding all of the,
23:13all of the stuff?
23:15Yeah,
23:16man,
23:16cover one,
23:17go to YouTube,
23:18find us,
23:19join us at cover one.net slash one pass.
23:22We're doing a lot of stuff.
23:24Our,
23:24our buddy,
23:25Anthony Prasko was just on ESPN the other day,
23:28but I saw,
23:28he was on me.
23:29He was on me to kinds of show,
23:31right?
23:32Yeah.
23:32That's great.
23:33Good for you guys,
23:34man.
23:34I love,
23:35I really like her work a lot and that's an excellent landing spot,
23:38man.
23:38That's really cool.
23:39It's fantastic.
23:40And she shouted out the network.
23:41So yeah,
23:42check us out on YouTube.
23:43If you haven't yet,
23:44give us a like,
23:45we're out there working hard.
23:46This is a tough time of year.
23:47As you know,
23:48Bulldog to talk about football when not a whole lot's going on.
23:51So,
23:51well,
23:52all the support we can get,
23:53we appreciate.
23:53Well,
23:54I appreciate you helping me do exactly that for the last 20 minutes or so,
23:57buddy.
23:57All right.
23:57Have a great weekend and we'll catch up.
23:59All right.
24:00Enjoy vacation,
24:00bud.
24:01All right.
24:01That's Aaron Quinn from cover one on the Western hotline with us.
24:05Excellent,
24:06excellent work.
24:07They do.
24:088 0 3 0 5 50.
24:09Anything there you want to get into?
24:11I'll certainly share some thoughts on,
24:13well,
24:14mostly where we ended.
24:16Go figure on the receiving core.
24:18We'll get to that.
24:19But certainly anything else goes.
24:21If you're up for it.
24:21It.
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