00:00I feel it's more likely that you might be in a dunk tank at the first road show next year,
00:06Curtis, based on what is going on.
00:09Not only is it Shams, but it's also your guy, Wynn Horst, who are both saying that the Celtics are
00:17furiously trying to move Jalen Brown currently, and there is interest.
00:23So I will not be in a dunk tank?
00:24No, you won't.
00:25Oh, wait. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You said you're not in a dunk tank as long as he is not
00:31a Celtic man.
00:31When I am right, the selective amnesia to remember the complete opposite is truly remarkable.
00:35Well, you never paid off on the tattoo, so that's why.
00:38I'm going to get one.
00:39I think, I mean, I still, I think if Brad is, I know that they're saying that, but there's no
00:44way they'd trade Jalen Brown.
00:46It would just be such a horrible look.
00:47Why did he tweet cats?
00:49Who tweeted cats?
00:51Jalen Brown.
00:52I don't know why the hell he tweeted.
00:53He tweeted, I love cats.
00:54Was it a body movement reference?
00:56I don't know.
00:56What the hell does that mean?
00:57I love cats.
00:58I love dogs.
00:58All right, so let me ask you, what do you get from I love cats?
01:01That he's pissed and he wants us to read into it because he's in high school.
01:04I know, but what is, how do you?
01:05You never know.
01:06Like, school me on what I like.
01:09He's not happy.
01:09That's what he is.
01:10I know, but what does I love cats mean?
01:12I don't know.
01:12It's just some stupid thing that he does to make you think and question about it.
01:15It's what's it called where it's like vague posting.
01:17Yeah, but usually vague posting, like throwing subliminals, there's like, all right, I get what this means.
01:22Like, when you say the rice smells better at the neighbors, like, you kind of know what that means.
01:26But maybe he wants to be a Charlotte Bobcat.
01:29You ever think about that?
01:31I believe they're now called the Charlotte Hornets.
01:34Oh, so that doesn't work.
01:35So that probably doesn't work.
01:37Good reference, old man.
01:38That doesn't work anymore.
01:40I don't believe so.
01:41What about grizzly?
01:44Is it grizzly?
01:45No, that's a bear.
01:46That's a bear.
01:48Yeah, I don't know.
01:49The pelicans, clearly not.
01:50What about the pelicans?
01:51Atlanta Hawks.
01:53No, those are not cats.
01:54Oh, does he want to be a timber wolf?
01:56Oh, no, wolves are not cats.
01:57Yeah, they're not cats either.
01:58But I know that the timber wolves are tearing it down.
02:02And that Ant-Man, I'm not sure if they'll trade him, but it's frustrating because they traded Julius Randle.
02:08They're probably going to trade Rudy Gobert.
02:11So that whole thing.
02:12So if you want to trade Jalen Brown for Ant-Man, okay, now you got my juices flowing again like
02:18Deionis.
02:18He's not going to be here.
02:21But that'll be the dumbest thing ever.
02:23If he's not here.
02:23I'm not disagreeing.
02:24If he's not here, Brad Stevens should get absolutely destroyed.
02:28The answer that Brad Stevens gave the reporter who asked if Jalen Brown will be on the team following the
02:34demise of the deal they were trying to get with the Bucs.
02:36I get that.
02:37And he had that answer saying, I can't predict the future.
02:39Right.
02:39That was the tell.
02:40He's gone.
02:41It's not if, but when.
02:43Jalen Brown's a big part of us.
02:44Like, you know, I'm not going to, I'm never going to predict the future.
02:48But, like, every indication, everything that I think about is with over the past few years has been building around
02:55those guys.
02:56Well, but you just tried to trade him.
02:57That's very nice of you, Brad.
02:58He was on Get Up, Greg.
03:00Okay.
03:00And Perk talked about the relationship between Jalen Brown and the Boston Celtics.
03:05This relationship is over.
03:07There's no coming back to this.
03:08How many times is Brad Stevens and the Boston Celtics going to give Jalen Brown the hug with the knife
03:16in his back, behind his back?
03:17This is the second time.
03:19This is the second time that they tried to trade this man.
03:22And if I'm Jalen Brown, I want out of Boston.
03:25I want out of Boston.
03:27I don't feel appreciated.
03:28And, yeah, a lot of it has to do with him running his mouth outside the lines.
03:33I'm pretty sure him doing the streaming is rubbing people the wrong way.
03:37But you can't come back from this.
03:40Like, there's too much animosity, too much heat going on in the middle.
03:43Jalen Brown, to me, said things after they were eliminated that rubbed people the wrong way.
03:49Jason Tatum probably would never say it.
03:51But for him to say that it was his favorite season of all time, while a guy sidelined with an
03:56Achilles injury, that don't sit well with anybody.
04:00On top of that, Jalen Brown wants his own team.
04:04Okay.
04:05So, Perk, I'm guessing, if he were to text Sully for a couple tickets, Sully would say, new phone, who
04:13dis?
04:13Yeah, who dis?
04:13But that aside, that aside, do you buy that there's no coming back from this?
04:22Like, is there no way to mend the fence when it comes to Brad Stevens, the organization, and Jalen Brown?
04:28I think you can fix the fence, but you're still going to be able to see the damages of that
04:35fence.
04:35I just feel like with the whole Brad Stevens situation, you have to do that.
04:40And you've got to live with whatever comes back in return from that.
04:45Curtis, can this relationship be fixed?
04:47Done.
04:47It's done.
04:48Perk and I agree entirely.
04:50There is – yesterday, the world was waiting to hear Jalen Brown and his response to the Brad Stevens press
04:58conference, right?
04:59Yeah.
05:00It was as clear as day that his name was out there.
05:02Brad Stevens met the media.
05:03And he goes to Twitter or wherever he put it.
05:06He goes, I love cats.
05:07Yeah.
05:07He's a Rubik's Cube that's just dunzo.
05:10He doesn't want to be here.
05:12He has, for whatever reason – and I'm not even saying he's wrong.
05:15Like, I don't really care about who's wrong or right.
05:16It doesn't bother me.
05:18It's just pragmatically not an option for that to be the case this year.
05:21That's why they're doing this.
05:23Yeah.
05:23Like, he's – I don't know what they'll get.
05:26And Wiggy is right that the way in which that they handled the conclusion of that Giannis deal,
05:31they should have figured out all of this at the beginning.
05:33Yeah.
05:33Will you go to Milwaukee?
05:35Right.
05:35Will you re-sign?
05:36Then I'm going to present this pre-packaged deal to the Bucs.
05:39If they say no, we move on.
05:40Especially if he's saying, Brad Stevens,
05:43oh, we were having conversations at the end of May.
05:46We were talking.
05:46We were doing this.
05:47We were doing that.
05:48Right.
05:48So if you were having these conversations with him at the end of May
05:51when Brad Stevens had said, like, oh, I've been talking to Jalen,
05:55you wouldn't be like, hey, where do you stand if we do send you to Milwaukee?
06:01Now, let me just point out, in the Twitch chat, GameDog,
06:04who we are going to meet tonight.
06:06Oh, he's coming tonight?
06:06Yeah.
06:07Okay.
06:07Says that Perk is talking out of his you-know-what by saying that Jalen Brown
06:15doesn't want to be here.
06:17There's no such – he's never said that.
06:19And there's no – state your source.
06:22There's nothing that says that Jalen Brown doesn't want to be here.
06:26Do you think he wants to be here?
06:28No, I think he probably, last season, convinced him that he can have his own team.
06:34He doesn't want to be the – he doesn't want to play second fiddle.
06:38He doesn't want to be the Robin.
06:39So I think he would like to be gone.
06:41I just – I think the return is going to be way less than you might have thought
06:46it would be, you know, which is unfortunate.
06:48And I don't agree with Perk on that point, but I do agree his actions showed
06:53that he doesn't want to be here.
06:54So you agree Jalen Brown does not want to be here.
06:56Yeah, I believe him.
06:57Shy Marooney.
06:58I believe he doesn't want to be on this team with Jason Tatum anymore.
07:02I think if Tatum wasn't here, he'd still be found to be here.
07:04There we go.
07:05All right.
07:06So, I mean, anybody who thinks if you wanted to be here,
07:09yesterday was the single best day to express that.
07:12But he's not going to do that, though.
07:13I think the only reason – the only way he wants to be here is if the organization
07:18is going, Jalen Brown's untouchable.
07:20He's our guy.
07:21He's the one.
07:23Him and Jason, we hold them to the same level.
07:25No, that's the only –
07:26Rest in peace, the ring Kobe got his wife.
07:29That would be the public way of doing that.
07:31That to me, that ship sailed a long time ago.
07:33And so now I believe he – with Perk, he hasn't publicly said it,
07:38but you can just tell in his actions and from kind of the way he feels like
07:41they treat him, he wants out.
07:43All right, what is –
