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New England Patriots Defensive Coordinator Zak Kuhr joined Rich, Ken, and Ted and discussed the horrible defensive performance by Christian Gonzalez against the Packers, the team’s man vs zone philosophy, and preparing for a bounce back performance against the Lions in Munich, Germany this Sunday.

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00:00Zach, thanks for coming on, man.
00:01We really appreciate it.
00:03Yeah, I appreciate you guys.
00:04So, Zach, I guess just looking at the tape from this past weekend,
00:08obviously not the defensive performance that I'm sure you had envisioned,
00:12what did you see and what was the first thing that stood out
00:17that you said, you know, we've got to fix that next week?
00:21Yeah, I think we've just got to be a little more connected on the field there,
00:24some better communication.
00:25I think we can coach things a little bit better.
00:27I think it starts with there.
00:30And, you know, get our players a little more connected,
00:34knowing where guys are going to be at, you know, better communication.
00:39You know, we've got to clean some things up.
00:40We've got to go back to work.
00:41I thought today was a great day of practice.
00:44Really harped on that stuff.
00:45Those guys were loud.
00:46They were into it.
00:47There was a lot of energy, a lot of juice.
00:49And excited to work throughout this week in Germany.
00:53Hey, Zach, speaking of that connection and communication,
00:55I'm sure it's easier said than done, right?
00:57You watch these games just as an outsider.
00:59And there's so much stuff going on pre-snap movement and, like, late calls.
01:03And I'm sure there's a certain point where you can't talk to your guys with the green dot anymore.
01:08Like, let us in there.
01:09How tough is it for communication to be excellent on each side of the ball?
01:14Yeah, it's always a challenge, especially, you know, at home when it's loud and whatnot.
01:19But even outside, you know, crowd noise and everything like that.
01:22Yeah, the communication from me to the green dot, the green dot to everybody else.
01:27Okay, shoot, they're breaking the huddle.
01:28Hey, we've got to talk through this, talk through that.
01:30And at some point, you know, we've just got to stick with what we're out,
01:33with what we call out there and just, you know, go play ball.
01:36If we're trying to make too many adjustments late in the down, you know, it can get tough.
01:41You know, every play has its challenge.
01:45You know, not every call is perfect for every play.
01:48And we just got to fight through those tough ones.
01:50So, Zach, Christian Gonzalez, obviously one of the best in the game in his position.
01:54He had statistically one of the worst games that you could have as a corner.
01:59It's, you know, I think it shocked a lot of us.
02:01Why do you think that was?
02:02Why do you think Christian Gonzalez had such an off game on Sunday?
02:07Well, yeah, I'm sure he probably doesn't think that's his best.
02:10Obviously, you know, I think everybody needed to play better that game.
02:15I also want to dogpile Christian here.
02:18You know, there's some things, too, on that film.
02:20I know, you know, fans and people don't get to see or know what the insides of each call is,
02:28right,
02:28to where it's not always 100% on him.
02:30I know sometimes he's around the ball, and it's easy to say, oh, that must have been on Gonzo
02:35because he was near it.
02:37Were there some plays he wanted to have back?
02:38Absolutely.
02:41And, you know, again, it's hard to put this game, each play, on one person.
02:48Like, you know, he loses a man coverage rep.
02:50Yeah, I get it, man.
02:51You know, we got to try to make as many of those plays as we can as possible.
02:55But when you combine all 11, whether it be the communication or the execution from up front to the back
03:00end,
03:00back end to up front, we got to do a better job of just complementing each other.
03:04And we say all the time, hey, the front's got to make the DBs look good,
03:07and the DB's got to make the front look good.
03:09And we got to be connected in doing that.
03:11We got to have some chemistry.
03:12And we got to go out there, you know, and execute for each other.
03:16On the turnover front, the takeaway front, Zach,
03:18how close do you guys feel you are as a unit of getting a couple of those?
03:21I know Christian had one that was called back on the penalty, but how close are you?
03:26Yeah, I would say, you know, we fire our ass off every day at practice for them.
03:31You know, we practice every day.
03:34And, you know, we just got to be in great spots.
03:37You know, there were some opportunities out there that I think if we had executed just a little bit better,
03:42we would have made those.
03:44Again, it's just about understanding what the concept is and where we need to be.
03:49And, again, you know, communicating to each other to help us put in some better positions to make that.
03:56But, yeah, I would say, you know, we like to think we're always close,
03:58and we had a bunch of attempts as far as hammering the ball.
04:01You know, we got one out on the sideline, but one out of bounds with Jacobs.
04:05But, you know, we just got to keep hunting, keep hunting takeaways, and hopefully they come our way.
04:09So, Zach, I want to ask you about something that has gotten a lot of talk over the past couple
04:14of weeks
04:14about the Patriots defense.
04:15It's kind of a Jekyll and Hyde type thing, and that is that if you take a look at the
04:21success this team has had
04:22using man coverage versus zone, man, you're one of the best in the entire league defensively.
04:27But zone, the team is one of the worst in the entire league when you look at what the rank
04:32is.
04:33Why does this team have that huge difference between the two,
04:38and why does the team continue to run a decent amount of zone when man seems to be most effective?
04:49Okay, for the first part there, I mean, yeah, I think we have really good man cover corners,
04:54and, you know, I haven't updated looking at the updated stats the past week,
05:01but I know before that we were the number two most man coverage team in the league.
05:06Yep, you were.
05:07So it's not like, you know, we're not calling it.
05:10But, I mean, this past weekend, you know, just, you know,
05:15it just wasn't our best at any coverage we were really in.
05:17But, you know, we have really good man cover corners.
05:20But, again, now, like our teams are seeing, man, these guys are a man all the time,
05:23and they have a lot of man beaters.
05:25But just the second part of that question, like, you know,
05:27you look at the number one man team in the league at least two weeks ago,
05:31I believe it was Cleveland, and, you know, that percentage of pass plays and coverage was 48%.
05:40So, you know, you can't play the whole game and, man, 100, you know,
05:43the number one team in the league is playing, man, at under half of the snaps.
05:48You know, you got to play zone.
05:50You do.
05:50You have to.
05:51One, just for giving the guys a blow here and there,
05:54just going to be running, chasing the go routes every play, or just, you know,
05:58they know what they're getting.
05:58They're going to pick us.
06:01And we just have to execute the zones better.
06:03I mean, we have to be more connected in the front end, the back end.
06:07You know, when we get opportunities to go rush, we got to go rush.
06:09We got to win.
06:10All right.
06:11And then we got, you know, if I'm not winning, I got to match the hand of the quarterback,
06:14potentially tip a ball up in the air.
06:16You know, that helps the coverage.
06:17It helps potentially takeaways.
06:19You know, we got to do a better job of getting our hands on guys and zone coverages
06:24and just continuing to work it.
06:26I mean, you know, there's two things you can do.
06:29You can continue to work it, or you can, you know, start brand new
06:33and try to find something else new.
06:34And now you have to continue to work through that as you go through that.
06:37So we just got to get back to the basics when it comes to the zone coverage stuff
06:40and, you know, keep being who we are in man coverage.
06:43When you look at Detroit, Zach, obviously a tough challenge.
06:45What stands out about their offense that you're going up against here?
06:50Yeah.
06:50I mean, they're a complete offense.
06:52They have a great offensive line.
06:54They have a number one overall draft pick quarterback that sees the field extremely well.
06:59He's extremely efficient.
07:00He plays well within that system, understands the run game checks and the play action checks
07:05and what he's getting, has seen a lot of disguises and knows what to get into.
07:10You know, the running back is what he leads the league in touches
07:14and all-purpose yards and explosive runs and forced missed tackles.
07:19You know, Gibbs is probably one of the better players in the NFL.
07:23Goes through him.
07:24And then, okay, you say, all right, let's stop Gibbs.
07:27And, okay, here comes J-Mo running over the top.
07:29And then you got St. Brown, who literally can do everything and route you up
07:33and get dirty in the run game.
07:35And Laporta, same thing, gets dirty in the run game.
07:38He can attack you in the passing game.
07:41They play hard.
07:41They play physical.
07:43You know, it's going to be like a similar identity game.
07:46Like, you know, these guys, they're going to play their asses off.
07:50And they're very talented and they're well-balanced, both in run, pass,
07:55and their talent from skill groups to big skill to the bigs.
08:00Well, Zach, good luck this weekend.
08:02Hopefully you guys can right the ship.
08:04And, I mean, one thing we know about this team,
08:06they bounce back after a bad loss.
08:08So, I mean, let's hope that the track record remains consistent this weekend
08:12when you guys play out there in Germany.
08:15Yeah, excited for the challenge.
08:17I appreciate you guys having me on.

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