00:00I was born intersex.
00:02I'm trying to have a baby with my husband.
00:04A lot of people called him gay.
00:07They said, that's two dudes.
00:09Y'all choose anything to gain attention.
00:12This is sick.
00:13That's a full-blown man.
00:14We had our first pregnancy last year.
00:17Doctors didn't understand what intersex was,
00:21and that led to us losing our baby.
00:27It's just every day I wake up, I'm angry.
00:33I was born intersex, and that is when you're legally born
00:37with female and male sex parts.
00:40I was raised up with my mom, and she wanted a son.
00:44So she raised me as her son, but it was hard for her
00:49to actually see me starting to kind of turn more
00:53into a woman.
00:54My shape, my just overall demeanor, my voice never got deep.
01:00Nothing really changed into a male that she wanted.
01:04Once I got to college, that is when I fully stepped
01:07into being a woman and had to unlearn everything
01:10that I learned growing up.
01:12It was very confusing.
01:13It made me kind of question myself a lot,
01:16have a lot of self-hatred at times,
01:19and hated what I saw in the mirror
01:21because it wasn't how I felt.
01:23But I embrace it now.
01:25We became an official couple the same night that we met.
01:30We just kind of talked about everything,
01:32made it official right then and there.
01:33I really didn't know what intersex was.
01:35I had to, like, Google it and see what it was.
01:38And then I said, I'm just going to give it a try.
01:41I don't care what nobody thinks.
01:42So when we started our relationship,
01:45we did get a lot of judgment.
01:47A lot of people called him gay.
01:49They said, oh, that's two dudes.
01:53Just a lot of negative things that people like to say
01:56when they think they see two males.
01:59A lot of them didn't even know that I was intersex.
02:01So when I made the video and I posted it,
02:05I talked about what being born a hermaphrodite is.
02:09I talked about what intersex is and from there,
02:13my page went from 5,000 followers to 23,000.
02:16But a lot of people also reached out to me to tell me
02:19that they were also intersex or born the same way.
02:22So it just motivated me to keep going.
02:25Someone said, this is sick.
02:27That's a full-blown man.
02:28Nothing says woman about this young man.
02:31People assenuate being intersex like you're transgender,
02:35but it's like, no, it's not the case.
02:36We're legally born with both sex organs.
02:41It's a completely different thing.
02:43Someone said, seeking attention should be considered an illness.
02:47Lies after lies, y'all choose anything to gain attention.
02:50Someone said, y'all believe anything.
02:53These days, people think being different is a profit.
02:56Someone said, you are a woman with a birth deformity period.
03:00Now, if you wanted to feel like you're different,
03:03then that's your choice, but you are a woman.
03:05I mean, we have a lot of just heart eyes and stuff,
03:09positive and negative comments.
03:11So my condition affects me having a baby
03:14because it makes me very high risk,
03:16considering the fact that I have a lot of hormones
03:19and the way that the baby will be born.
03:21It's just more complicated for doctors to
03:25kind of understand how my body is
03:27and how the baby would grow in the belly.
03:30It makes it somewhat difficult due to me sporadically having eggs.
03:36I might have eggs this month, but I mean, I have some next month.
03:40And that is why we decided to go with surrogacy.
03:43And this is our baby for now, our penny poos.
03:47Hopefully she'll be a little fur sister one day.
03:51So right now we are about to have our consultation with the surrogacy agency.
03:56So we decided to go the surrogacy route because it just seemed more ideal for us to try that way
04:03versus to keep trying.
04:04Hello. Hi, how are you?
04:07Good. Hey, Curtis. How are you?
04:09I'm doing good. How about you?
04:10Good. Nice to meet both of you.
04:12Tell me a little bit about you guys, about who you are personally and how you got here.
04:15Our experience with trying to have a baby hasn't been the best.
04:20I was born intersex and we had our first pregnancy last year and we ended up losing our baby.
04:28Being pregnant before in the past, our journey wasn't the best.
04:34Doctors denied care for me because they just didn't understand me.
04:39They didn't understand what intersex was, what a hermaphrodite was in the area that we lived in.
04:46And that led to us losing our baby.
04:50And I just feel like I'm angry.
04:59I just feel...
05:07It's just every day I wake up, I'm angry.
05:12But I'm learning how to move forward and how to just turn into something positive.
05:19It just made us kind of want to take this route because it just seemed safer.
05:26And we just didn't want to risk losing any other baby.
05:30I just feel like any mother who's ever lost a child can relate to how I feel.
05:36Like you're not going to stop until you get your baby by any means necessary.
05:40I am very sorry about the loss last year.
05:43I'm sure that had to be very difficult.
05:47Yes, thank you.
05:48I'm very sorry about that.
05:50Can you tell us a little bit about the process of surrogacy?
05:54So, the very basics of surrogacy, a male and female couple, we use the female's egg and the male's
06:02to create an embryo.
06:04And then we find a surrogate, a woman who is willing to carry a child for you.
06:09And we transfer that embryo into that surrogate.
06:14And that is 100% biologically your DNA, your child.
06:18Are we given an option of surrogates to choose from?
06:23Yes.
06:24So, when we sign up surrogates, we try to find one that matches your preferences.
06:29We show you her profile after we show her yours.
06:32And you say, I'm willing to meet with this person.
06:35Then you meet with them and you decide yes or no.
06:38If you say no, that you just didn't feel a personal connection.
06:42We move on and then we show you a different profile.
06:46Let me ask you guys something.
06:47How do you feel about using a surrogate?
06:50I feel confident in it.
06:53Do you feel good about somebody else carrying your child?
06:56Yeah, it depends on the person.
06:58Yeah, it's a tough pill to swallow because it's like every woman wants to carry their own baby.
07:05And especially if someone's going to be carrying, you know, his seed, you know,
07:10I have to snap out of it because that's my husband.
07:13So, when would you like me to follow up with you and discuss possibly next steps?
07:17Just whenever you think about us.
07:19We'll be ready.
07:21Sounds good.
07:21It was very nice meeting both of you.
07:24To the people that judge us.
07:26Like, who you is to judge somebody.
07:28What goes wrong comes around.
07:30What's on the horizon for you two?
07:32Um, I would say definitely kids.
07:36Definitely to have our dream wedding.
07:39Because we got married at the courthouse.
07:41So, we definitely want to have our dream wedding.
07:44And vacation.
07:45Yeah, vacations.
07:46And just seeing the world and showing the world that we're in love.
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