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In Mobile, Alabama, two young men are found murdered inside a car on a dark residential street. With no witnesses and few leads, the case stalls–until a teenage girl steps forward with information that leads to an arrest and a confession.
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00:05The following program documents a real homicide case.
00:09The investigation, the pursuit of justice, and the lasting impact on the loved ones left behind.
00:29Mobile police.
00:30Yes, sir.
00:31Come on, sir.
00:32You put it in my driveway.
00:33It's been there a minute.
00:35Could you tell the officer to check it out?
00:37Yes, sir.
00:38I'll let an officer know.
00:39.
01:04For those most affected by homicide.
01:06When he left this world, a part of me died with him.
01:10The first 48 is just the beginning.
01:13You hate to see it.
01:14Two guys, 19 and 20 years old, that had their whole lives ahead of them.
01:19They would have been someone that they knew.
01:21Someone that they were familiar with.
01:23This is the story of the fight for justice.
01:26The defense was going to try to blame the girlfriend for this whole incident.
01:29She's not believable. She's not credible.
01:31She could have been involved herself more than she wanted to admit to the jury.
01:34In the weeks, months, and years.
01:37You can feel your heartbeat throughout your whole entire body.
01:40If we got a judge that agreed with the defense, we don't really have a case.
01:58We're headed to the Tolmanville neighborhood.
02:01I was the new guy.
02:03I would have been homicide for maybe about four months.
02:07When I got the call, you just get thrown in and you pick up and go.
02:15All we know so far is there was a suspicious vehicle in front of his house.
02:19Patrol arrived and discovered two deceased males in the front seat of the vehicle.
02:25It does come with a certain amount of pressure because I've got to go look two families in the face.
02:30It's my responsibility to get justice for them.
02:35The driver.
02:36It's going to be Kenneth Foster Jr.
02:40Known as Kenny, 20-year-old Kenneth Foster Jr. was born and raised in Mobile.
02:46Active in his church, he recently earned his forklifting certificate from Job Corps.
02:51Kenny leaves behind his parents and five siblings, including a twin sister.
03:03Detectives find a benefits card on the passenger.
03:11And run the name to make an ID.
03:156, 18, 98.
03:20James was just 19 years old.
03:24You hate to see it, sitting there looking at two guys, you know, 19 and 20 years old,
03:29that had their whole lives ahead of them.
03:32They haven't lived their life yet.
03:34They haven't even had an opportunity.
03:36I grew up here in Mobile, Alabama.
03:39I went to high school with Kenneth's older brother and sister.
03:44I've been doing this job for about 13 years, and with my ties with the community,
03:48I'm always tied or close to each case that we have.
03:53The driver was shot pretty much directly in the back of the head.
03:56The passenger was shot kind of more on the left side of his head,
03:59which would indicate that the shooter was probably behind the driver's seat.
04:10The team finds two 9mm casings behind the passenger seat.
04:14Winchester 9mm Luger.
04:18It's a magazine.
04:20And matching 9mm ammo in the glove box.
04:24No gun.
04:26His right pocket's inside out.
04:29Something caused his pocket to become inside out.
04:32Maybe a robbery.
04:34The way that the vehicle is parked in, you know, in the middle of the street,
04:37it kind of seems like they may have been meeting somebody or it was taken.
04:42For two people to allow someone to get in the back seat,
04:46one, it would have been someone that they knew.
04:48Someone that they were familiar with.
04:50You have to really trust that person to sit in the back seat of your vehicle.
04:55I'm afraid that there's a cell phone somewhere in this car.
04:59Some had to get them over.
05:02Why is this vehicle here?
05:03Why are our two victims inside this vehicle?
05:06In any murder investigation, we generally rely pretty heavily upon technology.
05:12A cell phone is always a great indication of,
05:16okay, who are these guys talking to?
05:18We hadn't been able to find a phone.
05:20Either they didn't have one or it was taken.
05:23The canvas in the neighborhood didn't really turn up anything.
05:27It was very dark.
05:28There were no cameras on the street or in the general area.
05:32All right, thank you so much.
05:35We really didn't have much to go on.
05:37We were just trying to piece together maybe what these guys were doing on that dead end street.
05:42As they wrap up the scene...
05:44The passenger's homeless.
05:46Gillespie finds a report on the victim, James.
05:50He evidently came in contact with an NMPD officer over the last couple of weeks.
05:55And he told the officer that he was homeless.
05:57That obviously makes it tough trying to track down his family members.
06:01Leaving the crime scene that night, all we really knew was that we have two victims shot in the back
06:08of the head.
06:09We have two shell casings in the car.
06:11We had no gun.
06:12We had no cell phones.
06:14And so we had our work cut out for us.
06:22Six hours in.
06:24Back at Homicide.
06:26I'll be able to let you in if you just want to call me when you get here.
06:29All right.
06:32Right now we have Kenny's mother and older sisters coming in.
06:36We're going to talk to them and just kind of see if he was into any illegal activities or who
06:41he hangs out with.
06:42Just to kind of get a better understanding of what might have happened.
06:45Because still at this point, I mean, it's up in the air.
06:54Kenny's parents and older siblings arrive.
06:58Along with his twin sister, Kiana.
07:03They were already notified of Kenny's death.
07:12When I came in, I see everybody sitting down.
07:14I'm the only one standing up because I need to know what's going on.
07:17I just wanted to figure out who killed them.
07:21I sat down and did the interview with the family because of my relationship with Kenneth's siblings.
07:27My goal was to understand what did Kenneth have going on in life period.
07:33Did Kenneth have a phone?
07:36No.
07:37First I told him he didn't have a phone anymore.
07:39He didn't do.
07:40What was his lifestyle like?
07:42He went things all the way.
07:44But he was a good, kind-hearted person.
07:48You didn't get into it with anybody?
07:50I knew it.
07:53He had done it.
08:14We didn't have a 9mm handgun inside of that vehicle.
08:17So at this point you say, okay, his pockets are turned inside out.
08:22Was his gun inside of that pocket.
08:25Okay, well, there's two fire casings in the back seat.
08:28Was those two fire casings far from that 9mm?
08:32So what we drew?
08:35He got up.
08:36He said, mama, you're fixing my door.
08:40Kenny's mom says he left the house around 6.30 yesterday morning.
08:45That's the last time I saw him.
08:46So who was his daddy took the work?
08:54I started worried about my mom.
08:57I can't explain or even channel how they feel.
09:03He didn't support him on any of the information that y'all have.
09:06What's that y'all made here?
09:08Y'all can give me a call.
09:17We found out that he didn't have a phone.
09:20The other guy didn't have a phone.
09:22So, I mean, where is the point of communication, you know, to meet somebody?
09:27Also, the victim had a 9mm gun.
09:30He had a 9mm.
09:31It might have been his own gun that they used to shoot him with.
09:35Something had to have gone really wrong for you to get killed with your own gun.
09:37The last time he spoke with his family, he was going to work and to pick up a friend.
09:43Well, was that friend James or was that friend someone else?
09:47Who would he have dropped off at work that day?
09:49We have to try to peace out who else he would have been with.
09:53For someone to kill two people, they wouldn't hesitate to take a third.
09:58Whoever this is we're looking for is a cold-blooded killer.
10:02We need to get this person off the street and get him off fast.
10:25This is Chase.
10:28Why is a dude gonna kill one?
10:37be there for you. When we was younger, our mom used to work a lot, so the library was like
10:44our
10:44escape. We was on a computer, and we also did chess, and he loved chess just as well as I
10:51did.
10:52We actually won a couple of tournaments. He's literally like my best friend. He had
10:58that great charisma where he can just walk in the room and light up the whole room,
11:02give you the best smile, goofy, loving. This is your uncle in school. You see that?
11:12He started Job Corps after I graduated, and he also got his sport lifting license. He
11:19always wanted to work to take care of our mom. He just wanted to show our family that he can
11:25do
11:26something, and it's meaningful, and he didn't get the opportunity. Certain things I don't do no more
11:33because it makes me think about him too hard.
11:38When he left this world, a part of me died with him.
11:5310 hours into the investigation.
11:58Hello? That's Detective Birch.
12:01A tipster says she saw Kenny yesterday with a man named Daryl Watts.
12:07Lynette, drive.
12:09And tells Birch where to find him.
12:14We head out to that apartment. We see Daryl Watts. And ultimately,
12:18he agrees to come back to police headquarters for an interview. We were excited to see what he
12:24could offer on what happened that day, and who would have been in that car.
12:34I'm Detective Gillespie. I appreciate you coming down here and speaking with us.
12:39So, Kenny always gives you a ride to work?
12:42Kenny just, he took me to work, and he'll stay more.
12:45Daryl says that Kenny brought him to work at McDonald's.
12:49What time?
12:50And Peter and Sam, so he came, and she's 45, but she's 30.
12:54And then what happens after that? I told you to check on the girl.
12:58And what's your girlfriend's name?
13:00He gives Gillespie his girlfriend's name.
13:03All right. So, did you see him again after that?
13:07Kenny, he picked me up at school car.
13:09And does anybody with him?
13:29It's not really common for someone to admit that they've had a disagreement with a victim.
13:50He says he and his girlfriend stayed home the rest of the night.
13:55One of my biggest concerns is that you may have a little more information than maybe what you're sharing.
14:01He was with him at least in the hours leading up to his murder.
14:04He was in the car on numerous occasions.
14:07And now he thinks something's going on between Kenny and his girlfriend.
14:11So, it definitely raises your suspicion levels.
14:14But if you were there when this happened,
14:17it was kind of interesting, you say, when the accident happened.
14:24Somebody that was there or somebody that might know what happened would refer to it as an accident.
14:31I was a young homicide investigator.
14:34Gillespie had been doing it for a number of years.
14:37I don't even know that I would have picked up on it.
14:39They just referred to two guys being murdered as an accident.
14:44So, I didn't mean it like that if you took it home like that.
14:47I told you everything I know.
14:52Just hang tight for it.
14:56At this point, we have to follow up with Daryl's girlfriend.
15:00And verify that he was with her the night of the murders.
15:10The next day.
15:12I researched James in our database and was able to find some reports listing his uncle.
15:20It took us a little while to track down a next of kin for James and ultimately deliver the news.
15:29James was killed last night.
15:31Have you guys had any contact with him lately?
15:36I got you.
15:38You talk to anybody.
15:40Anybody has had contact with him recently.
15:42Please have him give me a call.
15:46All right?
15:50What's the deal with James, bro?
15:53He said mom and dad are both deceased.
15:56And he's pretty much been in the system his whole life.
15:59He tried to bring him in a couple years ago, like, and help raise them.
16:04But he said he was just not one to abide by the rules.
16:08He did say, man, I hate that, man. I hate that. I tried to talk to him, man.
16:12James Rutledge's aunt and uncle encouraged him to join Job Corps and said he planned to join the Marines.
16:20That's tough for a 19-year-old to know that at the time, James didn't have anyone.
16:24And it's hard.
16:26No, it's hard.
16:27He was homeless at the time.
16:29That was sad.
16:32We met James in elementary school.
16:35Him and Kenny hit it off in school.
16:37James was really, like, one of Kenny's best friends.
16:40And he loved James.
16:43They both was just two young boys that was literally learning how to be men.
16:48As the first 48 slips away...
16:51We pretty much don't have anything yet.
16:55We were not able to locate the girlfriend.
16:58Sometimes you get to a dead end, and you just hope someone gives you another street to go down.
17:10Days and days can go by with no new information, no new leads.
17:17But then an officer from the third precinct called and said a female had showed up claiming to have information
17:25on these murders.
17:27I'm Detective Birch.
17:29What brings you in here today?
17:32I know y'all questioned Darryl Watts.
17:35How do you know Darryl Watts?
17:38He's my aide.
17:43He threatened my life because he told me what he did.
17:47I believe looking at her, sitting in the room with her, she was visibly scared.
17:52This female was threatened by Darryl.
17:55This lets us know that he has more involvement in that we actually know.
18:00Now suddenly you have a new witness with new information.
18:03It could potentially give you an entirely new avenue to go down in your investigation.
18:09A huge break in the case.
18:21Do you remember what day it was when the murder happened?
18:23Yeah.
18:24And it took me to Darryl's work.
18:31And Darryl didn't want me up there because he didn't want everybody to know that I was his girlfriend.
18:37The witness says she's under 18 years old.
18:40So Darryl didn't want his co-workers to find out they were dating.
18:53She says later that evening, Kenny came back to Darryl's house with a friend.
18:58And the four of them got into Kenny's car.
19:11And what were they talking about?
19:13They were just talking and they were just making eye contact and it would freak me out.
19:19So I hopped out of the car.
19:23And as I'm used to be walking, I turned around and I seen Darryl hopping out of the car.
19:35And he's saying run.
19:38And I'm like, for what?
19:41And he said, I just killed him.
19:45Just watching her and how upset she was telling the events of that night,
19:49she was brave enough to come tell the truth.
19:51And he just, did you hear gunshots?
19:56Darryl has Caleb's gun, the black and gray 9.
20:02He took it off of him after he killed him.
20:06And the gun that he killed from it was 38 or longer.
20:14We were pretty set on the fact that we thought it was a 9mm.
20:17You used to kill him.
20:19It kind of gets your wheels spinning in your brain a bit.
20:23And when he snatched me by my shirt and he said,
20:26you're coming with me and if you tell anybody, this will be in your head next.
20:32Did he ever say why he actually shot them?
20:36He just said he got tired of Kenny saying that he was a pervert for going out with me.
20:44All right, just sit tight for me, okay?
20:48She was able to tell us that Darryl stole Kenny's 9mm.
20:52A huge part of the case at that point would be to locate both of those guns.
20:57We run his name to check for current address.
21:02Darryl Watts.
21:03Darryl has never been arrested.
21:08Check this out.
21:10So I just pulled up Darryl Watts on Tyler.
21:14The police field interview had occurred just a few nights after the murders.
21:19Darryl Watts had been in possession of a .38 Special Revolver
21:23along with a 9mm Smith & Wesson pistol.
21:27The two guns that according to the girlfriend was Kenny's gun and the murder weapon.
21:32But he was also in possession of a valid pistol permit.
21:35So they were returned to him at the end of that contact.
21:38That would be pretty incredible if we were able to recover that gun.
21:42I said we could pick him up and talk to him.
21:45All right, let's do it.
21:51Detectives find Darryl at his mother's house and bring him to headquarters for another interview.
22:03Any time you can confront somebody with physical evidence,
22:07it really gives them the nudge sometimes that they need.
22:11What's going on, man?
22:13Have you had any contact with police?
22:16Since the last time you saw us?
22:19Okay.
22:21We got documentation that you worked out.
22:25Yeah, I was shocked.
22:36Where is the 9mm at?
22:42What about the .38?
22:45He was sick.
22:53We still believe that 9mm was either the murder weapon or Kenny's gun.
22:58We got the co-workers information and we were able to track that gun down and take it into our
23:04possession.
23:06An hour later, Nettles and Burch continue their interview with Darryl.
23:18We are 100% certain that you were with Kenny when he got killed.
23:25Nettles tells Darryl they spoke to his ex-girlfriend.
23:29I don't know what she told us, because she's going to post a lie.
23:35Why did Kenny have to die?
23:38This was your partner, and this was your boy.
23:41You were right.
23:42You know, you get to a certain point where is the confession great?
23:46Certainly. It's a great piece of evidence.
23:49But I've got all the evidence I need.
23:52You better go to jail with two counts of murder.
23:58I didn't pull out a tree, sir.
24:03Sir, I'm going to put your hands while you're down.
24:09We were done.
24:10We were ready to charge him with two counts of murder and have him transported to jail.
24:28If they claim that they're ready now to tell the truth, we're going to go back in and we're going
24:33to sit down and listen.
24:34Okay, he's for the tale of the all.
24:36Now you're at the front of your seat.
24:39Now you're listening and all tuned in to actually why, because he's about to let it loose.
24:45What happened here?
25:06Did you shoot him?
25:09Is that what you're afraid of?
25:40I've already threw it out there.
25:47He says his girlfriend got out of the car.
25:59He says his girlfriend got out of the car.
26:16He thought they were going to rob him, but the thing is that one of our victims had his pockets
26:22turned inside out.
26:23So if you think to yourself, who's getting robbed?
26:30Got out of the car, search me.
26:32Only thing he had on it was the nine, which I don't know.
26:37What kind of gun did you just shoot?
26:40It was the robot.
26:41I appreciate you being truthful with us, okay?
26:45You're talking about a victim who took a suspect to work and then in return he kills him.
26:54It was definitely senseless.
26:58I think at the end of the day, Daryl just snapped and killed them both.
27:19Anytime there's a double homicide in the community, it's a big deal.
27:23People want answers.
27:24Daryl Watts was charged with two counts of capital murder in the course of a robbery, one for each victim.
27:31And then also capital murder because it's two or more people.
27:37So we did initially seek the death penalty in this case.
27:40We felt that the death penalty was warranted.
27:46We had a eyewitness who was Daryl Watts' girlfriend, but she had some issues that I was concerned about.
27:55There was a fight earlier that day that we knew would come out during the trial.
28:03And so that's something we knew we were going to have to be prepared to combat at trial.
28:10Also, we did not have a murder weapon in this case.
28:15A week after the arrest, the ME reports confirmed that Kenny and James were killed with .38 caliber bullets.
28:24He used the revolver, and the revolver was not recovered.
28:27That's something that jurors want to see.
28:31So the confession in this case was going to be absolutely crucial.
28:41You don't want to be a part of a case where your client gets sentenced to the death penalty.
28:46That's what scares every lawyer in the country.
28:50Saving Mr. Watts' life was a top priority.
28:53So your strategy is, number one, have your client evaluated to see if he qualifies for the death penalty.
29:01The United States Supreme Court has said in Atkins that you cannot execute somebody whose IQ is around 70 or
29:10below.
29:10So we have him examined.
29:16Typically, the private psychologists and the defense hires will go into the jail administering different tests.
29:23Do different tests for malingering to make sure that they're not faking.
29:28And conduct interviews of family members and friends.
29:32Deep dive into their history, their past, their mental health history.
29:37And our own expert does pretty much the exact same thing.
29:41Between the COVID outbreak and mental evaluation, it delayed this case for a period of years.
29:49The amount of time that these cases take to get tried are incredibly hard on families.
29:58I was nervous that they was going to just drop the charges and let him walk.
30:05Four years since Darryl Watts was charged with capital murder.
30:09The state and the private psychologists determined that his IQ was 70 or below.
30:15They have what is called an intellectual disability.
30:20When we got the evaluations back, it was very obvious that he did have intellectual deficits.
30:26We concede the Atkins issue and we felt an ethical obligation to stop seeking the death penalty in this case.
30:36We're going for life without the possibility of parole based on his intellectual disability.
30:41We got rid of the death penalty. That was big.
30:45We win round one.
30:47But then the defense takes it a step further. His whole statement should be thrown out.
30:51If somebody supposedly gives the confession, you want to see if that confession is given voluntarily or knowingly.
30:59We don't want his statement to come before the jury.
31:01If this statement had been thrown out and their strongest star witness was his girlfriend, that would have been a
31:10strong help to the defense.
31:12It was kind of nerve wracking for the family because they knew that we needed that evidence.
31:18You can feel your heartbeat throughout your whole entire body.
31:21If we got a judge that agreed with the defense and decided to throw that confession out, we don't really
31:30have a case.
31:31You can feel your fault.
31:43Round two is to try to suppress the statement, the alleged confession.
31:48Once the psychologist has agreed he had an intellectual disability, we file a motion to suppress the statement.
31:57So we filed a response and let them know that we're going to fight this tooth and nail.
32:11You have your hearing on a motion to suppress.
32:15The state comes in and they play the tapes.
32:22And then we argue the law as to why it should not be admissible, why it should be suppressed.
32:29The reason we wanted to throw out Darryl Watts' statement to the police was one, he's got an IQ of
32:3661.
32:37I can just about, in my opinion, assure you he did not understand what Miranda rights were.
32:43That he could have a lawyer appointed to represent him for free.
33:05He doesn't know what they're talking about.
33:08He's like, I ain't got, I ain't got no dice.
33:11I think that's very clear to go to his mental state.
33:14We conceded that he had a low IQ, but it wasn't so low that he couldn't communicate or didn't
33:20understand what a Miranda waiver is. When you see the statements in the totality,
33:26it's very clear that he wasn't asking for an attorney. He was just trying to deflect.
33:31Then there was another issue. The defense was arguing that he was trying to invoke his right
33:37to counsel by stopping questioning.
33:48Mr. Watts told the police that he had no more to talk to with the police department. He had no
33:54more
33:54to say. It's blatant. It's right there on the record.
33:57Is he saying, I'm done with it, in a way to say, I'm concluding this interview? Or am I saying,
34:03I'm done with it, like, I'm done with this line of questioning?
34:07You take little bits and pieces from the transcript out, which is what the defense
34:12counsel was doing. It could be misconstrued. Then at this point in the interview,
34:20he's now saying, please come back. He is re-initiating with law enforcement.
34:30And he finally admits his responsibility in this.
34:35The problem is, he never asked for a lawyer on the videotape. And not asking for the attorney was
34:43the part that the court was concerned with.
34:46Ultimately, to the judge, he allowed the statement in its entirety into evidence.
34:52That statement coming in is very, very harsh and very harmful. But during the trial,
34:59we'll make arguments to the jury on the totality of the state.
35:03Six years after the shooting deaths of Kenny and James, the trial begins.
35:13Trial is kind of like game time. It's time to present and you just hope that it all presents
35:18well and that the jury is receptive to it.
35:22You're geared up for it. You have co-counsel. It's just part of what we've trained for.
35:31My father died a year after my brother. My mother died three years after my father.
35:41They didn't get to see Derrick on trial. That's why I made it my business to make sure I was
35:48there.
35:49Then it became, for them, not just seeing it through for Kenny, but making sure that
35:55they saw it through in a way that would make their parents proud.
36:00In their opening statements, the prosecution gives the jury a preview of the evidence.
36:06A confession without corroboration really isn't much.
36:12Getting the jury to focus on and see the confession, but also see how all the other
36:16evidence in the case fits into that confession.
36:21In the defense opening statement for Mr. Watts, you ask them to direct their attention to your
36:26cross-examination of the witnesses, because that's when you can make some
36:31arguments they can debate when they get back in the jury room.
36:35The defense was saying that it just wasn't Darryl Watts that did this, that it was someone else,
36:41because the girlfriend fired the murder weapon earlier that day. That's something that had happened.
36:48It was kind of becoming clear to us. The defense was going to try to blame the girlfriend for this
36:54whole incident.
37:12We knew that Darryl Watts' girlfriend had a fight earlier that day, where she was accused of being
37:18violent, and she had actually shot a gun earlier that day. That's something that, obviously, we had to
37:24deal with in trial.
37:26She's already admitted handling the murder weapon and being present at the scene of the murder,
37:30so she is definitely tied in.
37:36When she got up on the stand and she relived the worst day of her life,
37:42you can see the emotion. And she told the jury the exact same thing that she had told the police
37:49years earlier. She said, I saw someone execute two men.
37:59The state is doing its best to show that she was an innocent bystander. In my opinion, the girlfriend
38:06had motivations to not tell everything truthfully, to help protect her own involvement.
38:13And during the defense's cross.
38:16My co-counsel, Mr. Walsh, was very effective in getting detention seated. He was making progress on
38:22how she could have been involved herself more than she wanted to admit to the jury. And how she's not
38:28believable, she's not credible. In fact, she could be the person that actually committed this crime.
38:36It's upsetting for family to hear because then they're like, wait a minute, is that true? Should
38:42she be charged too? It was very intense. It was emotional. They want to try to kind of get under
38:50the
38:50skin of the witness to kind of get them to that breaking point. But she in no way, shape or
38:57form is
38:58a suspect in this case. I thought that she handled it in the best way that she could. She did
39:03the
39:03right thing. Incredibly courageous young woman. She kept looking at me the whole entire time
39:08while she said everything. She told the truth and I appreciate her for that.
39:17On day three, the ADA calls Detective Nettles to the stand and plays his interview of Darryl for the jury.
39:24It was a great feeling when we were ultimately able to play it for the jury
39:29and see how all the other evidence fits around that. He wasn't confused or he didn't say these
39:35things because he has an intellectual disability. He said these things because this is what happened.
39:41On cross-examination of the detective, our strategy then was to show that many times,
39:47Mr. Watts asked to stop and they would keep coming back at him.
39:51They should have stopped long before that confession happened.
39:58After four days of trial, the jury is dismissed to deliberate.
40:03The whole time, I literally was just quiet and praying to God about the jury making the right
40:10decision. It only takes one juror to fight for you. So we're hoping that that's what's happening.
40:16We have a verdict. The jury came out. So that kind of like ratchets the stress level up.
40:25The jury said that he was guilty of all charges.
40:32When you are in that courtroom and you heard the jury come back and they find him guilty as charged,
40:37there's no other feeling like that. That was the best thing I heard. We got what we finally needed
40:45so we can close this chapter of our life. The loss of James is felt by his family,
40:52I have no doubt of that. And the verdict was for James just as much as it was Kenny.
41:10When people are murdered, there's no victory. For the defendant, there's remorse and sadness.
41:17Thank goodness we were able to save his life and he can do positive things in prison for himself and
41:23other inmates. For the families, the grief will be forever.
41:33Eight years after Kenny's murder.
41:55The difference with having a twin brother, this is like a lifelong partner.
42:01Even when he died, I still feel him to this day.
42:06I literally was going to the gravesite every day and I would talk to him.
42:15I bought balloons for our birthday every year just so he knows that I'm going to always be here and
42:23I miss him every day.
42:26I'm very blessed because Kenny clearly comes to me when I need him and he lets me know that I
42:32am loved
42:33from this world and from the next life after. Yay, give me five.
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