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David E. Rogers is the visionary behind "Black Blocks," a project born from his extensive experience in healthcare, e-commerce, writing, and coaching. With over two decades in project management and leadership roles, combined with his creative achievements as an author and filmmaker, David has crafted "Black Blocks" as more than just a game—it's a tool for education, empowerment, and legacy-building, especially focused on Black History. His passion for teaching and family values drives this initiative to inspire future generations.

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- David E. Rogers has over 20 years of experience in operations, project management, and e-commerce leadership.
- He is an accomplished author with 13 novels published and a major deal with HarperCollins.
- "Black Blocks" is designed as an educational and empowering tool rooted in Black History.
- David’s leadership extends to coaching basketball, emphasizing teamwork and strategy.
- The project aims to create a lasting legacy for future generations through education and community engagement.

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00:56your host, Yaya Diamonds, and I have a return guest.
00:59But before we introduce him, I was going to say, this guy was like,
01:04return guest is like, we're talking like way back, return guest.
01:09Before we had the video, we were only audio, so he's never really seen my faces.
01:14So behind the scenes, this is what I look like, darling.
01:17Anyways, I am so, so very excited to have him back.
01:21But let me show you.
01:23His name is David Rogers, and he is not only an author, but the creator of just kind of like
01:28a Monopoly game.
01:29But I'm not really sure.
01:31I can't really tell you like he can tell you.
01:34So let's just go ahead and welcome on the show.
01:36David, thank you so much for being here.
01:39Oh, thank you for having me.
01:42See, you were here when we were just audio.
01:45Gosh, how many years ago was this?
01:48I was there from at the beginning, right?
01:52I think I had reached, at that point when you came on the show, we had 19 million listeners.
02:00Oh, my gosh.
02:01Oh, my gosh.
02:02We had 19 million listeners at that point.
02:05We are up to 40 million now.
02:07And it's just amazing what we've been doing to encourage people to go after their dreams.
02:12But I want to go ahead and catch up with you.
02:15So tell me what's been going on since, well, not all of that, because it's just been too long.
02:21But let's start at the beginning of when you knew you wanted to create this board game.
02:28Well, I would say last year, I just woke up and it hit me that it was something that I
02:38think I needed to do.
02:40I noticed a gap in the education, especially of a lot of African-American youth.
02:49And I just wanted to add something positive, add something creative, and hopefully to help inspire and educate them to
03:01know more about Black history, but also understand financial literacy a little bit better as well.
03:08You know, understanding financial literacy can go across the board nowadays.
03:13A lot of people don't understand how to budget anymore.
03:17They don't understand how to sign a check.
03:20They're scared of that.
03:21So tell me what you included into this game to actually help people to do these things that have almost
03:29literally become ancient doings, if we could say, of the 1900s.
03:35The 1900s, that's just, but it's true.
03:40It's true.
03:43Well, I'll say like this.
03:44So the game is designed similar to a Monopoly-style game.
03:49But around the board, there's a lot of landmarks on significant African-American landmarks.
03:59You know, you might have like the Apollo Theater, Harriet Tubman Museum, Edmund Pettus Bridge, and Selma.
04:08There's like different things around it.
04:10And you can buy those as property as well.
04:15But around, there's blocks on there as far as there's reparations.
04:21You can get reparations.
04:23You get arrested by mistake and you have to pay.
04:27It's like different significant things that have happened in our community that also you can buy the property.
04:35It teaches kids on buying property.
04:38It teaches, you know, adults on buying property as well.
04:41And having people pay rent and how that all figures out in the grand scheme of things.
04:47And like I said, the thing for me is I'm hoping that the game inspires people to learn more.
04:55You know, it's only a game.
04:57It's only going to be, you know, it's not so much it can, you know, teach you.
05:01But I want people to take this as a springboard and then go out into the world to learn more.
05:09You know, if, you know, like the game can only give you a certain amount of questions as far as
05:15in answering.
05:16But I want you to say, you know what?
05:18I want to know more about black history because a lot of kids don't understand that, you know, your history
05:27shapes your future.
05:30And I think that's the missing piece that a lot of us is having today in our world.
05:35Definitely, definitely.
05:36How did you, I know what you put on the board.
05:40I know what made it to the board.
05:41But how did you choose what made it to the board?
05:45Well, I would say I wanted it to be somewhat have a significance on different generations.
05:57And I wanted it also.
05:59Certain things are, it's modern day, right?
06:01And so I want kids up to date to be able to, you know, identify with certain things.
06:06Like, one of the pieces is by an NBA team.
06:11That's, you know, and then another piece might be the Apollo Theater.
06:15And so I want generations to say, oh, I can connect with this.
06:22I can connect.
06:22Like, even some of the questions, it's like I wanted to make sure there were questions that some questions might
06:29come off as easy for some of us.
06:31But for a lot of kids, it might not be.
06:34But you'll get a question like, who was the first African-American to win an Academy Award, right?
06:42And a lot of people, when I ask that question, they get it wrong, right?
06:47They get it wrong.
06:48And so, and I'm always like, man.
06:51But there's that part of history where they kind of like, so the winner of that one, I'll give that
07:00answer away.
07:01That's Hattie McDaniel, right?
07:02And so, and Hattie McDaniel, a lot of people turned their back on her, her own people, because she won
07:11the award playing a maid, right?
07:14And so, and a lot of people say, oh, no, the first person, Sidney Poitier.
07:19And I'm like, no.
07:21But so a lot of those things, you know, we're going to, you know, learn.
07:26But I want people to, guess what, to grab that information and learn more.
07:32Learn more about Hattie McDaniel.
07:34Yeah.
07:34You know, I mean, don't let her be lost in the shuffle.
07:38I mean, she was very significant.
07:40So.
07:42Yeah, definitely.
07:42I agree with you.
07:43I definitely agree with you.
07:45And, you know, I have to go there.
07:47And a lot of people will tell me, Yaya, why did you say that?
07:50Or why, why are you bringing that up?
07:52There's so much history that they are erasing, getting rid of the books and schools and the libraries.
07:58You know, it's not just Black history.
08:01It's Irish history.
08:02It's Indian, Native American.
08:04It's anything that they feel like is a history of the United States that doesn't represent controversy they keep.
08:15But anything that represented a controversy, a takeover or something that was done in malice, they're trying to get rid
08:23of that history.
08:24And I think that what you're doing is amazing because you're bringing that back.
08:28You're bringing back the history of Blacks.
08:32You're bringing back the moment where people understand that a lot of the things that were invented, a lot of
08:37the things that were firsts were done by Black people or done by Black slaves because we had to do
08:45it.
08:46It wasn't like as if we had the choice to do it.
08:50We were either slaves, had to do it, and our masters took the credit, and now we're getting credit for
08:57it, or we had to do it because it wasn't done.
09:02Right.
09:03And then the thing about teaching history as well is you're able to show people, because so many people look
09:10at, oh, the Civil Rights Movement, Civil Rights Amendment made life better.
09:16But people need to also look at Black life before that, right?
09:20Yeah.
09:21There was a lot of Black ownership prior to the Civil Rights Amendment being passed.
09:27That ended up being taken away based on, you know, what to call it, distribution.
09:34And, you know, I got a mom and pop, but Chevron got a thousand gas stations, so they're going to
09:42get a better rate on the gas, right?
09:44And so it slowly started looking at certain things that slowly dissimated the Black, what to call it, economy.
09:56And a lot of times, this is where we end up today because people don't realize prior to the Civil
10:04Rights Amendment, we had a thriving Black economy.
10:08Because we had to, we had to do it because we couldn't, we was separate.
10:16So we had to put our own economy.
10:18We had to have our own bus stations, our gas stations, libraries, coffee shops.
10:24We had to have all these things.
10:26And a lot of people don't realize they look like the Civil Rights Amendment saved us.
10:33But in essence, the Civil Rights Amendment saved America.
10:39Not really.
10:40It didn't really quite save Black people in general because we had a thriving economy.
10:45Mm-hmm.
10:46Yeah, and a lot of us back in those times were persecuted because of that economy that we had when
10:54we were crushed.
10:56I heard that Central Park used to be a thriving Wall Street Black community.
11:00And now it's a park.
11:02Yep.
11:04I heard somewhere, I forgot, I think it's Louisiana, if I'm not mistaken, there's like a lake that used to
11:11be a thriving Black community.
11:12And they put, it's now underwater.
11:16And they call it a lake now.
11:19Do the history.
11:20It's there.
11:20It's there if you want to find it.
11:23Wow.
11:24I think so many people put the emphasis on like Black Wall Street.
11:28And Black Wall Street definitely was a tragedy.
11:32But there were so many more Black Wall Streets that happened.
11:36Yeah, that's what I was saying.
11:37Yeah.
11:38Right, exactly.
11:39Exactly.
11:39And I think so many people, we have to learn that because if you just think of Black Wall Street,
11:47you say, oh, Tulsa, okay, just one thing, not that bad, right?
11:51But you start looking at Black Mass, a hundred of these that happened, right?
11:54Then you start really seeing how history has worked against us in a lot of ways.
12:03And then you start appreciating the fact of, oh, I'm learning more to shape how my future should be, what
12:10I have to look for, what I need to do.
12:12And I think a lot of, like I say, my game hopefully can spur people to learn more and accomplish
12:20more.
12:21Hopefully they can take the game and the financial part, build a better life for themselves as well.
12:28Mm-hmm.
12:29I agree with you.
12:30And, you know, I was just looking up, there's Tulsa, like you said, Tulsa, there's Greenwood.
12:34There's Rosewood, Florida, Seneca Village in New York City, Oscarville in Georgia.
12:41In Alabama, there was a Kuala Liga, Kuala Liga, and there are so many different more places where we were
12:49taken over.
12:51So learning this and bringing this and bringing this not just into the Black home, but if you want to
12:59keep history real in your home, whether you're white, whether you're Black, whether you are fostering Black children, adopting Black
13:07children,
13:08anything that you think would actually keep history alive in your home and be real and truthful, this is one
13:16of the games that I do suggest you get.
13:19Wow.
13:20Wow.
13:20When you finished this, did you ever think that this would be one thing that would kind of spark the
13:28curiosity of people to actually look into all of these things that we're talking about today?
13:34I mean, I would say yes, because I'm very inquisitive.
13:43I mean, I love to know about a lot of things as far as what happened in the past and,
13:50you know, and how it has shaped our future today.
13:53And so for me, I still, I'm still learning.
13:57I'm still learning.
13:58And so I, and I don't have all, I don't have all the answers.
14:03I mean, and so for me, I did want to pick like the fate cards.
14:11So, so around the board, you end up on fate.
14:14Fate is your opponent picks the card and they'll ask you the question.
14:18And so those questions are kind of like, it's throughout our whole history here.
14:25And it's like, I've learned so much.
14:27It's like, so I'll give you another one, right?
14:30Here's another one.
14:31It's like, what was the, of the 13 colonies?
14:36What was the first colony to ban slavery?
14:39Can you guess that one?
14:41You know, I don't know.
14:42I know I know it, but I don't know it.
14:45Of the 13 colonies.
14:46That's good that you actually feel like you know it.
14:51I remember the question.
14:54I remember answering a question.
14:55I haven't had that question presented to me in a few years.
15:0113 original colonies.
15:0313 original, oh my gosh.
15:06I don't remember.
15:07You want to phone a friend?
15:08No.
15:08You want to phone a friend?
15:09No, I don't want to phone no friends.
15:11Tell me what it is.
15:12Tell me what it is.
15:13Because I don't remember.
15:14And when you say it, I know I'm going to be like, yeah.
15:16Oh my gosh.
15:17I can't believe I didn't remember that.
15:18Go ahead.
15:19Vermont.
15:20Vermont.
15:22I knew it was up.
15:24That's up near Maine, isn't it?
15:26Yeah.
15:27See, I knew it was near Maine.
15:29And I was thinking Maine.
15:30I said, it's not New York.
15:31I know it's not New York.
15:32And I know it's not Maine.
15:34But it's somewhere around in there.
15:36And I can't even, I couldn't even think of it.
15:38Let me ask you a question.
15:41I'm going to phone a friend.
15:43I'm going to phone a friend.
15:44Go ahead.
15:46Let me ask you a question.
15:48Which state of the 2000s was the last to ban slavery?
15:59That would be Texas.
16:02You said to ban slavery?
16:05To ban slavery.
16:06Or to end, so, so we're banning it.
16:09To ban slavery.
16:09In their books, to end slavery, which was the last state in the year, in the 2000s, we're
16:16talking now, between 2010 and today, which was the last state to ban slavery?
16:23I don't know.
16:25Mississippi.
16:27Mississippi.
16:27Mississippi.
16:27See, but see, guess what?
16:28See, that's what I mean right there.
16:30Mm-hmm.
16:31That's why, that's why I know this game is important.
16:34Yeah.
16:35That's why I know this game is important.
16:36Can you believe it?
16:382013.
16:40Dang.
16:422013, slavery was banned in Mississippi.
16:452013.
16:46I know, because I went in 2012, that's what I was saying, between 2012, 2016, somewhere
16:51around there.
16:522013, I went the year before it was banned.
16:56So, so you came close to being a slave?
16:58I came close to being hung, because I was going to kick her behind.
17:06I came close to being on that tree, that's what that was.
17:10I'm going to tell you, one thing about when you go through Mississippi,
17:14Mississippi, and you, I feel so bad, because I think about slaves, and when I'm going through
17:25the South, right, and you see so much open land, the trees, tall trees, and it's like
17:35just trying to escape had to be, had to be such a impossible task.
17:42Even the, I mean, you was running off of fate, you was running off of fate, because there's
17:49no way in the world you didn't know what's on the other end, what's, what's within the
17:53next five miles, 10 miles.
17:56Or if you could even reach it.
17:58Right.
17:59And it just so, and I always say, I say, you know what?
18:03There's so much, probably a lot of dead bodies in those forests, those high trees that you
18:12see as you're going down the road, heading through the South, that people have never went
18:18to find those bodies, even to, you know, to honor them from, you know, for their sacrifice.
18:24So, yeah, and, and, you know, I live in South, Southwest Florida, where we're mixed, and you
18:30don't feel that in certain cities, you don't feel that, but when you go outside of those
18:34cities, or when you go to the smaller, like communities, and things like that, you do feel
18:39it.
18:39And a lot of it's also hidden.
18:41I mean, we think it's forgotten, a lot, a lot of it's hidden, because society has changed
18:46where, where they know that they can't outwardly show those, those actions as they used to.
18:55So, it becomes hidden, and so we, we don't, a lot of times, we just don't know until we're
19:02actually faced with it, you know.
19:05But I love what you did.
19:07I love that you're doing this.
19:08I love that you're doing it.
19:09And I think more people should do something relative to, you know, like, relative to different,
19:16different nationalities and things like that.
19:20Are you looking into that?
19:21Are you looking into doing maybe a board game for different nationalities, maybe the Jews,
19:26maybe the this, maybe the that, or is that something that you, you're not going to tackle?
19:31Well, you know what?
19:34I'll be honest with you.
19:35I mean, you know, I, you know, I might have to pay you a residual or something.
19:40That's a good idea.
19:44But, but, but I'm going to forget your name somehow, right?
19:48But no, no, no.
19:50But no.
19:51Oh, no.
19:54I'm not going to do it like that.
19:56But no, but what I'm saying is, is that what I have thought, the next phase of it is to
20:03do
20:03Black Blocks Africa.
20:05That's the next phase.
20:07I got you.
20:08I think doing a Black Blocks of another nationality, it'll probably, it'll probably be too controversial
20:26for people.
20:28I don't think so.
20:30You know why?
20:31No, no, no.
20:31Keep my, hold on a minute.
20:33Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
20:34I'm sorry.
20:35What I'm going to say is, I am going to think about it because after you said it, I hadn't
20:43really explored down that route.
20:46Right.
20:46So, so I will explore it now.
20:50Yeah, please do.
20:51I don't think it's going to be controversial.
20:53I think it's going to be complimentary because we all, no matter what color we are, should
20:59understand the history of our neighbors and understand that truth is truth.
21:04You know, there's a lot of mixing going on.
21:06There's a lot of people dating different nationalities, different countries or, you know, Blacks are
21:12dating whites, Chinese are dating Blacks.
21:15You know, we're mixing and our kids are going to grow up without that understanding, without
21:19that knowledge.
21:20You got Blacks who are Black mixed with a Jew.
21:23You know, they should know both sides.
21:26They should know both sides of their history.
21:28I think that people will be able to respect it and people who are fostering different nationalities,
21:35you know, will be able to teach their foster children about the truth about their history.
21:40These things should be available.
21:42And I think you're the one to do it.
21:45Well, thank you.
21:47Well, no, but that's why, that's why the next one is Black Black Africa.
21:53Yeah.
21:53Because I wanted to, you know, give the bridge, give us the bridge back.
22:00Because a lot of us, there's such a disconnect between Black Americans and Africans.
22:06And a lot of us, we don't, we don't really communicate that much when Africans do come to America.
22:13It's like they live in their little silo and we don't, we don't embrace each other and we should.
22:21And I've been to, I've been to South Africa, I've been to Egypt.
22:24And, and so for me, I had a great time.
22:28Um, people were great, but I think we still, when we come here, we're not embracing each other like we
22:36should.
22:37Yeah, I agree with you.
22:38And, you know, it takes time.
22:40Everything that we, we do, every endeavor that we, we, uh, you know, embark upon takes a moment to actually
22:48complete.
22:48And so, yeah, your next thing would be the Africa, who knows what'll be next.
22:53Um, but I know that once you open Pandora's box, it's open and there's no going back and there's no
23:04going back because curiosity begets curiosity.
23:06And I, and I thank you so much for doing this.
23:09What, you know, when you think about this, what do you want people to literally take away?
23:15We, we, our, our ancestors made it for us.
23:21What you're doing, it's amazing.
23:25Have you ever did 23 and me?
23:27Yeah, I did ancestry.
23:30Okay.
23:30I did ancestry.
23:31I didn't do 23 and me, but I did ancestry because it was on sale.
23:34Sorry.
23:36Well, I'm pretty sure I did 23 and me because it was on sale.
23:39It was running some kind of deal.
23:40There it is.
23:41And so, and so for me, when, when I did it and it traced me all the way back to
23:49like the first Pharaoh, right?
23:51And it was cool.
23:53And then, so when I went to Egypt, I took a picture next to the, the Pharaoh and all of
23:59that.
23:59It was fun.
24:00Oh, wow.
24:01And, you know, and then the scary thing was going inside of a pyramid.
24:06I didn't realize how scary that would be, but I did it.
24:09That's scary.
24:10Yeah.
24:11Oh, no, it, it, it, it really was.
24:13It's such a claustrophobic situation.
24:17No.
24:19No.
24:20But, but, but, but, but, you know, but I, I had a blast.
24:24I had a blast and you can, you know, being like a country, like, you know, Egypt is still
24:31somewhat, I would say, authentic because they still got the pyramids.
24:38They still got the camels out there.
24:40So being able to do, I mean, I was able to, you know, go on a boat on the Nile,
24:48ride a
24:48camel in the desert, you know, go inside of a pyramid, you know, shopping, enjoying the
24:56food and everything.
24:58So, and I, and I, I encourage so many people, I mean, go travel outside.
25:06I mean, cause you know, we typically travel to Jamaica, Bahamas, Mexico, and then our big
25:15trip is Europe.
25:16Right.
25:17And so we need to expand out to the ages and the Africas, you know, those places as well.
25:24I mean, to learn, because we're all somewhat connected.
25:29Cause even when you do a 23 and me, you, you find out like, oh, I got 2% this
25:362% that, you
25:38know, the percentage is there and it's, it's a reason.
25:42And so we need to learn about different cultures as well.
25:45Oh yeah.
25:46Let me tell you, I found out I was like 3% German.
25:51No figure, but it's just amazing.
25:53And I'm so happy what you've done.
25:55And, you know, this, this sparked a flame in people to actually go and listen and, and
26:00listen to history and, and read about history and watch, you know, all the things in the
26:06documentaries and all the movies that were been.
26:08It was also like, for me, it sparked conversations, kind of like my game.
26:13I mean, I wanted to, when I did the game, I want to spark conversation.
26:17I want to instill pride.
26:19I want people to build community.
26:21I want, I want these things to, you know, come together as one, uh, for us to share.
26:28I mean, I want game night to be, um, educational, but fun where people can take something away.
26:38I mean, I think a lot of games are somewhat I would call empty, but I feel like this right
26:44here is going to feed people's soul.
26:46And if you're looking at the bottom of the screen, you'll see the website, blackblocksgame.com.
26:52That is blackblocksgame.com where you can go and check that out again.
26:57I absolutely love what you've done in, but, but you have literally opened up Pandora's box.
27:04It is, it's your fault.
27:07It is your fault.
27:08I hope, I hope I did.
27:10I'm, I'm hoping people go out, get it, learn more.
27:14I mean, you know, play the game.
27:16I mean, I think, but the game is going to be a springboard for people to want to know more,
27:21to do more, um, and to connect more.
27:24I mean, cause like I said, we don't, we don't connect with each other, I think like we used
27:29to in the past compared to, I think people these days, we operate in little silos and
27:35we rarely come together and we, we talk about each other without even understanding who that
27:41person is.
27:44Right.
27:44And so I think this right here brings people together.
27:48It's going to help build community, going to help educate, inspire all of those good things.
27:54I agree.
27:55I agree.
27:55I want to thank you so much for being on the show again.
28:01It's been, it's, you said it's been years.
28:04I, which book was it?
28:05You don't even remember.
28:06Do you?
28:07I, I've written 13.
28:09Oh, goodness.
28:10Nevermind.
28:11It's okay.
28:12It's okay.
28:13I'm good.
28:14You're good.
28:15You're good.
28:1513.
28:16Being that we wasn't on video, being that we wasn't on video, it probably wasn't the early
28:22one.
28:23So it had to be blog talk.
28:25It had to be blog talk.
28:26Cause on blog talk radio, it was just audio.
28:29And so you called them to the show and we did the interview.
28:32So that's what that was.
28:33Yeah.
28:34Yeah.
28:35Wow.
28:36Just wow.
28:37I'm a find it on the book.
28:39I want to know.
28:40Oh my gosh, David.
28:42That's amazing that we we've crossed paths twice.
28:46You got to come back.
28:50That's why I came back.
28:55Well, thank you so much for being here again.
28:57I'm going to put that link on the screen and I will be putting that link also in the description.
29:02So that way you guys can actually see that for yourselves and go and visit the site.
29:07If you're a history buff, this is the game for you.
29:09And I know a lot of people that I know that are history buffs and they love stuff like this.
29:14So they don't eat this up.
29:15I'm going to put this up.
29:16Yeah, definitely.
29:17And thank you guys so much for tuning in.
29:19Don't forget that Dream Chasers Radio is real people, real dreams, real wins.
29:24Dream Chasers Success Stories with Yaya Diamond.
29:27This is a success story.
29:28This guy right here, 13 books, and he's already on his second game board.
29:34Forget it.
29:35He's a success story.
29:37He's a success.
29:38You got to come back when you do the African one.
29:41You got to let me know so that we know you did it so that we can talk about your
29:44success.
29:45And then, after you do the African one, you got to tell me what you're going to do next.
29:49Exactly.
29:51Okay.
29:52Well, until next time, guys.
29:53Thank you so much, David.
29:54And thank you guys.
29:55And don't forget to go to that website.
29:57That's blackblocksgame.com.
30:02Blackblocksgame.com.
30:03All right, then.
30:04Until next time, guys.
30:05Bye.
30:06Bye.
30:07Bye.
30:10Bye.
30:10Bye.
30:10Bye.
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