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Heart & Hustle Houston Season 2 Episode 1
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00:04What makes Houston the hottest city is the boss women who run it.
00:11Last year, we built this amazing, genuine friend group.
00:15Nothing could really shape the foundation of it.
00:19Having a strong group of girlfriends makes you feel like you can accomplish anything in the world.
00:24Help me, Lord.
00:25The right women will bring out the best in you.
00:27I'm all about sisterhood.
00:29At the end of the day, we're just trying to navigate life.
00:32Cheers to finding our power and living in it.
00:35To God here.
00:37And then things went live.
00:41What's the cause of the drama?
00:43How much time do y'all have?
00:44After cameras were off, it was just super weird energy.
00:48I feel like people weren't honest, and that's what really took it to a whole nother level.
00:51A lot of our friendships are not in a good space right now.
00:54So I coordinated a group therapy session to talk things out as women.
00:59Damn, this is it.
01:00This is going to be the moment where everybody going to get off their chest when they get off their
01:02chest.
01:03That's when all hell broke loose.
01:07Labrina cussed at the group.
01:08She said, man, f*** y'all.
01:10Labrina walked out.
01:12And I haven't seen her talk to her since.
01:14She said she will never talk to you again.
01:16And I'll never talk to Huggy.
01:42Hey, y'all.
01:45Thank y'all for being so hospitable.
01:47I am still thriving in the world of public relations.
01:51I know I mentioned that I was taking like a step away from the entertainment world.
01:54I will be making my exit from the Houston entertainment scene.
01:59But my clients didn't let me do that.
02:01So I'm still in the world of PR, doing events.
02:05And it's just been really, really busy.
02:09We made it real sweet.
02:11It's sweet like me.
02:12Silver dress and red lip is a themed dinner that I started last year because I was inspired by Beyonce's
02:19renaissance.
02:19Hey, see, how are you?
02:22Very cute.
02:22How are you?
02:23You look nice.
02:24No, honey.
02:25Come on.
02:26I love this.
02:26Second annual silver dress.
02:28Hey, babe.
02:29I opened up an invitation for all the ladies to attend because we haven't been like collectively together in actually
02:36probably a few months.
02:37You can live a life so fabulous.
02:39All day, all day, so fabulous.
02:42Being one of Houston's most sought-after wedding and event planners, things are good.
02:47The party's here.
02:48We're great.
02:49Don't you start.
02:51Oh, my girl.
02:52You look cute.
02:53I'm very cute.
02:53So do you.
02:54I love it.
02:55You look sophisticated.
02:57You can sit right over here in the back and we're going to bring out some.
02:59In the back.
03:01Oh, that's how you're seeing me.
03:02Okay.
03:02Beyonce, sit down.
03:04Family life is great.
03:05The girls are really growing up.
03:07And my son, Nico, he has a job.
03:10He's leveled up.
03:10Jordan is still in the picture.
03:12We are dating.
03:14Sort of.
03:16All aboard.
03:19I can take you to a pot of gold.
03:21If you follow me down this road.
03:25Destinations to my back.
03:27Follow me, follow me, follow me now.
03:29Over the last few months, I have changed internally and then I transitioned that to, you know, my outward body.
03:35I cut off my hair off.
03:37I went blonde.
03:38I got a little nip tuck, you know.
03:40I wouldn't say that I'm road 2.0.
03:42I'm more like road 10.0 because I already look at this already, so.
03:45Hey, ladies.
03:46Okay.
03:47What's up?
03:47What's up, Alexiana?
03:49Woo-hoo.
03:50What's up that ass out tonight, baby?
03:53I feel good.
03:53I just feel like I just want to go out and do new things and meet new people and I'm
03:59just ready for my life to restart again.
04:01Where Alayna?
04:02Where Alayna?
04:03Alayna?
04:04You know, I talked to Alayna the other day.
04:06I think she went to Colorado or something like that.
04:08I invited Alayna as well, but I just know right now she's navigating through her new journey of life.
04:14And I understand that sometimes pulling away a little bit so that you can pour into yourself is necessary.
04:21I hope she left watching McCauley.
04:23Oh, Josh.
04:24Fine ass Josh.
04:27Don't talk about my man.
04:28Josh is not fine.
04:30He's fine.
04:31He is fine.
04:33Don't talk about my man.
04:34Is she going to divorce this man or not?
04:36Because I'm sorry to talk about it.
04:37You know what?
04:37I think she's getting a divorce now.
04:38She getting a divorce?
04:39I think.
04:40Girl.
04:40She better step outside.
04:42Cheers to having baddie friends.
04:44Cheers.
04:46Where's Labrina and Munera?
04:49You invited them?
04:50Yeah.
04:51Everybody was invited.
04:52All the ladies was invited.
04:53So why aren't they here?
04:55I haven't heard from them.
04:59I don't know.
05:00I'm not surprised that everybody's not here tonight because that's kind of been the culture the past six months of
05:05like not coming.
05:06Not communicating.
05:08And it just is what it is.
05:10Well, after the whole situation we had when we all met up, I mean, it's just been weird up and
05:14up.
05:14The whole purpose of me having therapy amongst everybody was so that we could get on the same thing.
05:19Last year, we were all blooming so beautifully in a beautiful vineyard, sipping wine, giving out flowers.
05:26And let bargones be bargones.
05:29I appreciate that.
05:31But there were some things Labrina said at the vineyard that did bother me.
05:37I said what I had to say.
05:38I literally said, hey, you called me a scammer.
05:41You said I steal clothes, take them back, wham, with the tag on.
05:44At the vineyard.
05:46Like Khloe, I was told by different women, you got to watch her.
05:50And you was a scammer.
05:51And you was cutthroat.
05:52And you used to go take clothes back with receipts.
05:58There were several people at the table, myself included, that mentioned some situations with Labrina.
06:04You remember that when she was like, y'all not on my level?
06:06I do remember that.
06:07And you didn't think that we were on your level?
06:09Level, in terms of level for me, means being in peace.
06:14You thought you was like, girl, I'm about to be in this room with these girls and ain't gonna bring
06:16them to the table?
06:17I felt like it was a waste of my time.
06:19I just, I could not understand that.
06:21And I was very hurt.
06:23So going into therapy, I was like, let me just get this off my chest so we can hash it
06:28out and move on.
06:29Labrina said that about us.
06:31She said we weren't on her level.
06:32She said some things about our friendships and people that we love.
06:35Talk about what you love.
06:36You talking about at the vineyard too?
06:38At the women's event.
06:38I remember that.
06:39My friend actually overheard her, call her precious.
06:43Like the movie?
06:44Yeah.
06:45Yeah.
06:46I believe everybody in this room is amazing.
06:53It was brought to me that Labrina had called one of my friends that I honored at my women's making
06:59history dinner.
07:00She called her precious.
07:01Precious is a character that was on a movie that was known for kind of being a little bit on
07:06the larger side and unattractive.
07:08And to be very honest, in the black community, that ain't never been no compliment.
07:13Comparing a woman of curves that's plus size and beautiful to precious the character, no way can you look at
07:21that as a compliment.
07:22I ain't never shown that no disrespect to our yelling at people first.
07:25But what I look like.
07:27Girl, she stomped off.
07:27She was crying.
07:28What was that?
07:29She was not crying when she walked out and said, fuck y'all.
07:31We all stopped our day, stopped meeting, stopped business to come there for that meeting, right?
07:36She was like, nah, fuck y'all.
07:37I walked out.
07:37Man, fuck you too.
07:38At the end of the therapy session, Labrina walked out and said, fuck all y'all.
07:44And I was like, oh, okay.
07:46So why Munera not here?
07:47She ain't got nothing to do with this.
07:49I don't know.
07:49I mean, maybe her loyalty to Labrina runs very thick.
07:52And she feels like, this the side I'm on.
07:55To me, in my friendships, I don't pick a side.
07:57What's right is right.
07:59That's just it.
08:00What's right is right and wrong is wrong.
08:02There's a division in the group.
08:03You know, on one side, it's me, Latouria Roe.
08:06And on the other side, it's Munera and Labrina.
08:09And Alaina's wandering in the woods.
08:11She's done with it all.
08:12At this point, I don't even know if we can resolve it.
08:15This is not the time and the place to not inspire.
08:18Whatever the personal matters are, we can get over that hurdle.
08:21But these girls should not see us in no other life but inspiration, period.
08:26I mean, that's what we always do.
08:27If all of the ladies showed up, that would have been a 10 out of 10.
08:31But if not, it's okay.
08:38My girl.
08:40I just told her about Jordan.
08:42I'm like, you?
08:43I don't want to talk about Jordan.
08:44Yeah.
08:45I'm thinking you was that when I told Roe.
08:47I told Roe.
08:49Jordan, you know, I first started dating.
08:51I mean, two years ago.
08:52Tell me about your new relationship.
08:5430 or age difference?
08:5630 years.
08:57Is it 30?
08:58No, bro.
08:59He's not even 30.
09:00What did I miss out?
09:01What y'all been doing?
09:02So we just was waiting to see if Jordan was fine tonight.
09:04What y'all mean?
09:06Yes or no?
09:07So I found some receipts.
09:09Some receipts?
09:10That don't sound good to me.
09:11So what does that mean?
09:13I don't know what happened.
09:14I can't get the truth.
09:15I've asked for the truth.
09:15But I mean, he seems to me as he's cheating on me.
09:19You get what?
09:21Cheater.
09:27Coming up.
09:28For Latoria and Khloe to attack me, it's really ridiculous.
09:32It is.
09:33And it can stay ridiculous.
09:34And you can stay in your ridiculous corner.
09:37I can't want to propose.
09:39So that could be something that we could talk about.
09:41Are you ready to be a husband?
09:44I really did work hard to keep my family together.
09:47Are y'all divorced?
09:52Seems to me as he's cheating on me.
09:54You get what?
09:56Cheater.
10:01It's fine.
10:02He ain't never been in a relationship, Latoria.
10:04It's not fine.
10:05What makes you think that's fine?
10:07For one, it happened long ago.
10:09Long ago like when?
10:11Way earlier this year.
10:13Girl, that wasn't long ago.
10:14That was yesterday.
10:14What are you talking about?
10:15It happened long ago.
10:15It happened long ago.
10:16That was yesterday.
10:17I found the receipts recently.
10:18But you keep seeing receipts with the S.
10:21Like, what did you find?
10:22Like, I don't understand.
10:24Basically, someone was at his house.
10:27So recently, some of Jordan's past decisions showed up in my DM.
10:32I was like, what?
10:34How?
10:35Who?
10:35When?
10:36I was very confused.
10:38It happened so early on in our relationship.
10:40I think it's forget.
10:40It didn't happen last week.
10:42This is something that I found out.
10:44So my thing is the dishonesty.
10:46I like the truth.
10:47Okay.
10:48Take me slow.
10:49Because so you find that they, he, some infidelity.
10:53Somebody has the door code to his house.
10:55So maybe so.
10:56Girl, what?
10:58I can see it all over Chloe's face.
11:00She is bothered.
11:01She is hurt.
11:03And she doesn't know what to do.
11:04In that moment, as a friend, like, what do you say?
11:06What do you do?
11:06All I can do is support her.
11:07But at the same time, I'm like, girl, if Jordan don't get it together, it's a lot of men out
11:12here.
11:12There's a lot of fish in the sea, babe.
11:13But you need to wrap it up and move forward.
11:15A door code means that y'all in a relationship, in my opinion.
11:21So he, this is not an Airbnb.
11:23This is not, like, none of that.
11:24This is door code.
11:26What the hell?
11:28Is Chloe saying somebody got access to the door and Jordan is cheating?
11:35And I was like, you need to hold yourself accountable.
11:37You need to admit what you did.
11:39And I want the truth.
11:40No.
11:41He's beating around the bush.
11:42Yes.
11:42He told his mama?
11:44Yeah, I told his mama every day.
11:46She's a person.
11:46Girl, you gonna chill.
11:47I said, your son, I'll put them all in a group chat.
11:50This is what he did.
11:50I want everybody to know.
11:52The group chat.
11:53Put the receipts in a group chat.
11:55Tell your family what you did.
11:57Your mama know, your brother know, your daddy, everybody gonna be in a group chat.
12:01Don't play with me.
12:02Jordan is not being accountable right now.
12:04It's been a process throughout this whole relationship with Jordan because I've had to teach him how to
12:09love me and how I communicate.
12:11And I'm patient with that, but I gotta figure out, like, what we doing next?
12:16Okay, okay.
12:16First and foremost, we're here for you.
12:18Okay.
12:19I'm just trying to piece it together.
12:22Me too.
12:22I know.
12:22I know.
12:22I know.
12:23No.
12:23Me too.
12:24I know.
12:25Seeing Khloe go through this when she has so much going on already.
12:29For somebody to know she's going through all these things is, to me, is a red flag.
12:34I understand that he has not been in a relationship before.
12:37At all.
12:38No, not like this.
12:39He ain't for 28.
12:40He just graduated from college.
12:42And I'm not defending him, but by no means, well, he's still learning how to communicate
12:46that.
12:47He, communication is something that he needs to work on.
12:49Right now, in this moment, if I need to support Khloe where she's at right now, I'm gonna do
12:53that.
12:53I'm also gonna tell the truth.
12:55I'm tired of heartache.
12:56I love you to death.
12:57I want you to be happy.
12:57If you feel like you can go back with him and be happy, I'm cool.
13:00I'll support you whatever you do.
13:01Okay.
13:02But I'm definitely gonna give him a little hello.
13:04When I see him, like, don't do my girl like that.
13:06Yeah.
13:06You should.
13:08Can you please, out of the winds, we're upgrading everything over here, out of the winds.
13:19I don't understand this weather.
13:21It was cold this morning, and now it's hot.
13:24Oh, look, we grounded ourselves.
13:26Yeah, and see, I feel good about grounding over here, because you don't have no animals
13:30and nothing.
13:30I know.
13:31In my house, girl, I'd be having to think twice on the area.
13:34Oh, it's home name.
13:36Isn't it?
13:36It's peaceful here.
13:38It was nice.
13:39This bracelet is cute.
13:40Life is cute.
13:41So how are things?
13:42How your projects going?
13:44Crazy.
13:45It's busy.
13:45I'm still doing content full-time.
13:47Content has been insane and busy, which is a good thing.
13:50You popping.
13:50You've been, you, girl, you know you work hard for these.
13:53I don't know, but you too.
13:55You're finally able to enjoy the fruits of your labor.
13:59My life right now is still chaotic.
14:01Content has been up and up and up.
14:03I'm continuously busy working with brands and just trying to build my platform.
14:08So today is just going to be, we're going to be shooting family content, lifestyle.
14:12We're not doing like none of the brand deals today.
14:13You all ready?
14:14On three.
14:14One, two, three.
14:15Norm and I, we're trying to go on more dates, spend more time together.
14:18So we're just trying to figure out how to do everything all together without losing my mind.
14:22So, yeah.
14:23The grind of it all is chaotic.
14:26And me personally, I am experiencing something new with working with Will on our new project.
14:33We have a lot of new business ventures.
14:35We expanded Escape Spa.
14:37We have our Pilates and Juice Spa coming up.
14:40We recently bought land and we're creating a horse safe haven.
14:45We're building out the land and we are rescuing horses.
14:49That looks so good.
14:50Mm-hmm.
14:52Oh, thank you.
14:54Um, so have you like talked to any of them?
14:58Any of the other ladies?
15:00I haven't.
15:01I have not said anything to any of them since the group therapy session we had.
15:06I truly thought these were my friends.
15:09You pour so much into other people, people need to pour back into you to fill you up.
15:12I'm so popular.
15:15I love you.
15:16I love you too.
15:17Then when the cameras go down, it was just super weird energy.
15:22It got so bad.
15:23We couldn't even come together for events.
15:26So at this point, it's like, all right, let's do a group therapy session.
15:29I'm really thinking like, okay, we've kumbaya'd before.
15:32Let's kumbaya again.
15:34I don't understand how I became the target.
15:37I don't understand how all of a sudden now I'm the villain.
15:41Then they want to go back to the on my level comment.
15:44And for Khloe to bring that comment back up in therapy was crazy.
15:49That's because you and Latoya are having conversations.
15:51A whole sidebar conversation.
15:52Because you two are the only ones have an issue with this.
15:55It gets ugly.
15:56I think things went south because there was a lot of, like, projecting.
16:02When I first heard about the on my level comment, I broke it down like I didn't mean it that
16:07way.
16:07All I was saying was I didn't think y'all were on my level like that.
16:10I fought for my peace.
16:11The therapy session, it felt like an attack.
16:14Latoya had her issues.
16:15Khloe had her issues.
16:16And they were going back and forth, back and forth without necessarily giving Labrina a chance to speak.
16:21For Latoya and Khloe to attack me the way that they did, it was definitely victim energy.
16:27It's really ridiculous.
16:29It is.
16:29And it can stay ridiculous.
16:31And you can stay in your ridiculous corner.
16:33I'm honestly disappointed in Latoya.
16:35And I'm a little disappointed in Khloe too because I was expecting all of us to get whatever we have
16:41off of our chest.
16:42Be respectful, open and honest.
16:45But, yeah, that escalated really quick.
16:48And then I get thrown in the conversation like, oh, of course, Muneer, you would agree with anything Labrina says
16:53because y'all be talking all the time.
16:54No, it has nothing to do with that.
16:56The fact is the fact.
16:58Did this happen?
16:58Yes or no.
16:59I'm steady trying to give that grace and answer these ridiculous questions.
17:04And then finally, I done blew a gasket.
17:07Like, I felt my anxiety kicking in, you know.
17:09And I felt like they were pushing me to a place that I didn't want to be at.
17:13You know, I didn't want to be there.
17:15So when I got up, I was just like, F all y'all.
17:19I meant it.
17:21I said what I said in terms of the on my level comment.
17:25But if you still feel some type of way that's outside of what I express, you got the problem.
17:33F y'all.
17:34Like, bye.
17:34Girl, before I knew it, I was ready to flip the table over like the Incredible Hulk.
17:40Well, I'm very proud of you for getting up and walking out.
17:45Coming up.
17:46How sure are you that Khloe is pretty?
17:48Because what if she doesn't say yes?
17:51Do you want to go back?
17:53I would like to see my family stay together.
17:56Why have you not had it?
17:56But my goal is to keep my black family together.
17:59You know how hard that is?
18:00We just talked about how you are trying to be happy.
18:14Hey, Boogie Bear.
18:15Hey, Boogie Bud.
18:17How are you?
18:18I'm good.
18:19Okay, you got the leopard on.
18:20A little blonde on.
18:21Yes.
18:22Okay, video vixen.
18:24You now have a little BT award.
18:25I see you.
18:27You look adorable.
18:28Where you going?
18:28Baby, it's looking like you finna be on a red carpet today.
18:31Well, honey, every day is a red carpet.
18:33Who's coming today?
18:35Ro and Elena.
18:36Oh, Elena coming?
18:37Yes, a little ketchup session.
18:39Well, baby, I'm excited to see her.
18:42Baby, she been my girl, but she had to, Lord have mercy, took a little time.
18:45Yeah.
18:46Y'all had to get over there at home.
18:47I'm sorry.
18:48I appreciate it.
18:49Are you passionate about your man, baby?
18:51Forever.
18:52And he fine.
18:53Okay, I'm happy that you think he's fine.
18:55And now she's, you know, she's in a new zone, a new...
18:59A new era.
19:00Girl, a new space.
19:01Girl, she is glowing.
19:02Glowing.
19:02Have you seen her on Instagram?
19:04I said you could tell she is living in her truth.
19:07Yeah.
19:07I think, you know, as women, like, you go through a rebirth.
19:10It's nothing like that.
19:12Sometimes your happiness is way more important than all of the...
19:15Sometimes.
19:16The look, all the time.
19:18The riffraff.
19:19The riffraff and putting on for other people.
19:21Absolutely.
19:21And, you know, she might have needed that.
19:24Well, hey.
19:26Girl, wait a minute, baby.
19:27She got the little curls going today.
19:30Curls for the girls.
19:31I gotta get it done again.
19:32Yes.
19:33Yes, ma'am.
19:34Good to see you.
19:34I like that on you.
19:35You know, I was trying to...
19:36I kind of like that one, bro.
19:38You like this one better?
19:38Uh-huh, that's cute.
19:40Melaina's coming today to lunch.
19:42Period, finally.
19:43I know.
19:43I'm so happy to see her.
19:45I was like, wait a minute, baby.
19:46She's playing.
19:46We get this tea.
19:51You ain't got no licking last all done.
19:54You think I'm a baddie and I know it.
19:56I'm just so feeling them.
19:57I'm over it.
19:58Hey, girl.
20:00There she goes.
20:01Yay.
20:02I'm next up.
20:03I'm good.
20:04I'm good.
20:05I'm like this sexy cat.
20:07Oh, my name.
20:07By me, baby.
20:09Jacket, too.
20:10Hi.
20:10How are you?
20:11Beautiful.
20:11I love your hair.
20:13I'm pretty awesome.
20:14I love your hair, your glasses.
20:17I'm about to take them off.
20:18Baby, what's...
20:19How is...
20:20I miss y'all.
20:22I miss my girls.
20:24With me going through this new process, a new chapter in my life, I'm navigating so many
20:30things.
20:30In this space that I'm in, I am not able to hang out with them as much as I would
20:35like.
20:35What's going on with the other crew?
20:37Oh.
20:39We don't know.
20:40Y'all don't know?
20:41No, we haven't.
20:42We haven't talked to them.
20:44Yeah, it's unfortunate.
20:45To see us kind of split apart like that, I just...
20:49I didn't want that for us.
20:51Girl, there's so much going on with this group.
20:53She's so nice.
20:53You think we ever gonna come back together?
20:55This is like some minor stuff that can really be...
20:58Yeah.
20:59Like, figured out.
21:00But like, it's a matter of talk through it, get through it, grow through it, and go through
21:05it.
21:07I don't want no drama, no more drama for my life.
21:11I don't need that.
21:12I want to come in peace.
21:14Well, baby, where we start?
21:15Where we start, baby?
21:16There ain't no wine.
21:17And I am...
21:18Now, don't be boring with this now, like...
21:19I'm not gonna be boring, but I am healing.
21:22Yeah.
21:23I'm taking care of my babies and myself, balancing work, and my kids.
21:30Girl, weren't you just in Paris doing makeup?
21:32It was for a wedding.
21:33So I've been traveling all over, been busy in my studio.
21:36Been...
21:37I typically do my classes like every quarter.
21:39Now I'm doing them every month.
21:41Yeah, baby.
21:42How are the kids?
21:42Um, they're...
21:43We are making sure that...
21:46Who is we?
21:47You gotta clarify, Alayna.
21:49You know?
21:50Who is we?
21:50You and Josh are ex-parties.
21:51We're making sure that everything is...
21:53Ex-husband?
21:54...child's father.
21:55I am trying to move on.
21:58Josh and I have been married for 15 years, and we have been together since high school,
22:02my junior year.
22:03We've been together for 21 years.
22:06Over the last year, I realized that I need to, one, validate my feelings.
22:11I need to value myself.
22:14Once I started doing that, I knew I needed to make some changes with my marriage because
22:18of how I was being treated.
22:21Marriage is hard.
22:22It is.
22:23And if anyone that has been married for this long tells you that it's just, oh, it's good,
22:28we're good, it's a lie.
22:29I was cheated on.
22:30There's things that have been done to me that I would never do to you.
22:35A lot of things happened, and I messed up.
22:39If therapy doesn't work, what do you foresee?
22:43Who wants to stay in a place where it's not progressing?
22:46Yes.
22:46Because I'm not happy.
22:49Ooh.
22:50He made some mistakes that I could no longer look past because I wasn't being restored
22:55from those mistakes.
22:56He made some horrible investments, which, like, caused our money to, like, dwindle.
23:02Stocks?
23:03Gambling?
23:04What?
23:04He was doing day trading.
23:05Okay.
23:06Would you get a divorce, though?
23:07Is that something that you thought in your head before?
23:08Well, he knows if I stay in this space that, you know.
23:11He's done.
23:12But it's something that you would do if you got to that point.
23:14I'm not in love with him.
23:17I begged for therapy.
23:18We tried therapy, and it was not successful.
23:21You have to do the homework.
23:23You have to actually do the work.
23:24You can't just go to the therapy session.
23:26So, it wasn't successful.
23:28I think that I tried.
23:29I fought.
23:30I stuck in it to the point where I lost myself, where I couldn't even get out of bed.
23:35I was sick.
23:36I wasn't myself.
23:38I really did work hard to keep my family together.
23:41I know you did.
23:42But I do feel like they should have a good example of how their parents should be treated in a
23:48marriage.
23:49And it should be with love.
23:51When it comes to marriage, I think there are sacrifices that should be made in order to keep families together.
23:57And, of course, I do wish that there was more fight.
24:00Are y'all divorced?
24:11I really did work hard to keep my family together.
24:14Are y'all divorced?
24:19We're going through the process of it.
24:21It's still ongoing.
24:25And there has been numerous times where I just wanted it to turn around.
24:28Eventually, I got to the point where I decided to choose me.
24:32And I needed to make a change.
24:34And I did ask Josh to leave.
24:36So, are you still going to date even though you separated?
24:38Or, like...
24:39Yeah, I'm going to make sure that the ink is dry before I go out on a date.
24:42You fell for the divorce, right?
24:43I think I'll see.
24:44I'm going to make sure the ink is dry before I go out.
24:47You know what's so crazy?
24:48The wife in me once would love to see Josh try.
24:54Girl, what's up with?
24:55He done.
24:55Girl, look at that.
24:56You still fight.
24:57Here's yours.
24:58God damn.
24:59Come on, Latour.
24:59Let's go.
25:00What the fuck are you talking about?
25:01T-H-O-T.
25:02That whole thing over there?
25:02I would like to see Josh fight.
25:04Girl, he didn't fight.
25:05Girl, Josh is gone.
25:06The boy.
25:07Like, what the hell?
25:09If you're moving forward, I feel like you should stay on the train.
25:11No, she clarified it, baby.
25:12Do you want to go back?
25:13My goal is to keep my black family together.
25:15You know how hard that is?
25:16We just talked about how you are trying to be happy.
25:18I desire to keep my family together.
25:20That was my ultimate goal.
25:22I wanted that.
25:23I fought for that.
25:24That is why I was married for so long.
25:27But at the end of the day, I got to move on.
25:31Well, anyway, so you don't flirt when you go out?
25:35Every time I go out, I sit there and I'm like, man, I'm a wife.
25:38Man, I just don't like going out.
25:42I'm a very at-home person.
25:44I love, like, I've been cooking more lately.
25:47Like, instead of, like, I have that balance now.
25:50Let me see your DMs.
25:52That's not...
25:53Oh, yeah, they poppin'.
25:55I know they poppin'.
25:56There are some friends in Houston that I would, I...
25:59Is he DJ?
26:00Have you had your first date?
26:02Oh, she said DJ?
26:03I'm about to clock out.
26:05I'm about to clock out.
26:07Do you like to get fancy when you go see him?
26:09Does he rap?
26:10Ooh.
26:10Let's see.
26:11Is he a rapper?
26:13Oh, yeah.
26:14Oh, my God.
26:15So, do you want...
26:17I think that Elena is literally still healing.
26:20I've been there.
26:21I'm still...
26:21I was healing.
26:22Like, that's why I've had sex since March of last year.
26:25Ouch.
26:26Is it dusty down here?
26:27It's a little dust down here.
26:29So, I got one more question.
26:30Are you and him still talking?
26:31Like, how are y'all co-parenting?
26:33Yeah.
26:33I mean, it's gonna have...
26:34There's gonna be some hard days.
26:35I am somewhat of a single mom right now.
26:39So, it's all about my kids pouring into them
26:42and just making sure that my business is running
26:45and operating the way it needs to.
26:47I'm going through that right now.
26:48So, y'all still talk for the kids, but, like, not, like...
26:51I'm pretty sure none personal.
26:52Ain't nothing to talk about personally.
26:54Yeah, it's a type of kids.
26:54Co-parenting is something that I'm 13 years in,
26:57and I'm still trying to learn how to do it,
26:59so that's why I asked you this.
27:00Whenever you have kids,
27:01you don't think about being a mom part-time.
27:04I am a very hands-on mom.
27:06I am trying to make the best of it.
27:09I don't even want to...
27:10We're co-parenting,
27:11and we're doing the best we can
27:12in the space that we're in.
27:13It's time for her to really learn herself,
27:17enjoy life, indulge,
27:19get you something that, mm,
27:22is a 10 out of 10,
27:24and that spores you.
27:27You get what I'm saying, Elena?
27:28Cheers to healthy living.
27:31Cheers to balance.
27:33Getting you some big, long...
27:36Balance.
27:37Strong balance.
27:38My outings.
27:39This is hard.
27:42Hard.
27:43Hard living my outings.
27:45Take her through there.
27:46Take her through there, Lord.
27:48Cheers for taking her through there.
27:50Cheers.
27:50Cheers.
27:57About time I love that girl
28:00Look at me in the mirror
28:02Wanna make her shine so bright
28:04Wanna go out tonight
28:05Why do I get so stuck?
28:09Not sure which way goes so...
28:10Hey!
28:11What's going on, Victoria?
28:12What's up?
28:13Doing all right?
28:14Good to see you.
28:15You too.
28:15You too, you too.
28:16You been all right?
28:17I've been good.
28:18Just busy, but good.
28:20Got your fall colors on.
28:22Yeah.
28:22What's new with you?
28:23What's up?
28:24So one Sunday morning
28:25at 6 a.m.,
28:27Jordan calls me
28:28and he goes,
28:29Listen,
28:31I have something
28:32I want to talk to you about.
28:33Can we link up?
28:35It's important.
28:36So I'm thinking like,
28:39what is this?
28:42I'm trying to get into some,
28:43you know,
28:45I guess a different chapter
28:46of my life.
28:47I'm thinking about
28:47taking it to the next level
28:48with Chloe.
28:50And I think it's time
28:51for me to, uh...
28:52To what?
28:53I think I want to propose.
28:57So that could be something
28:58that we could talk about.
28:59Wait.
29:00You want to propose?
29:01Yeah.
29:02So you mean to tell me
29:03Chloe and Jordan
29:04are not talking,
29:05but Jordan wants to propose.
29:08What?
29:08Like, if y'all ain't talking,
29:10how you gonna get
29:10to point A to point B?
29:12I know I haven't felt
29:13this way about
29:14any other relationship
29:15I've been in.
29:16Never taking it serious.
29:17Okay.
29:18My family is invested.
29:20Her family,
29:20you know,
29:21her kids,
29:21my kids.
29:22Are you ready
29:23to be a husband?
29:26I wouldn't say
29:26I think I am.
29:27I know I am.
29:28She betters me as a man.
29:29Pushing me,
29:30wants me to...
29:31And is...
29:32And she backs me
29:33with everything I have.
29:34And she gonna tell me
29:35when I'm wrong.
29:36I know Jordan's
29:37a private person,
29:38so maybe he didn't
29:39feel the need
29:39to tell me
29:40what was going on
29:41with him and Chloe.
29:42But I think it's so weird
29:44that Jordan gave me
29:45a piece of the puzzle
29:46and not the whole puzzle.
29:48You could have told me
29:49all of that.
29:50I probably could have
29:51helped guide you.
29:52Like, hey, bro,
29:52let's go get her
29:53an edible arrangement
29:55and let's nip this
29:56in the bud.
29:57You've been married before?
29:58Never.
29:58You've been engaged before?
30:00Never.
30:00Have you ever felt
30:01a way about a person
30:03where you wanted to marry someone?
30:03I never thought I...
30:04That's the thing.
30:04I never even felt
30:05a connection
30:06to where I wanted to even.
30:07Really?
30:07No.
30:08So that's how I know
30:09it's different.
30:09You know what I mean?
30:10You got the ring?
30:11That's another thing too.
30:12You know,
30:13so I've been working.
30:14I have some,
30:14you know,
30:15I got some funds set aside,
30:16but I have to make sure
30:17everything financially
30:18is in place first.
30:20You know,
30:20and that's my main focus
30:22right now.
30:22Right.
30:22I just want to make sure
30:24it's not like a 90% sure
30:25it's all the way 100%
30:27because I think she deserves
30:29everything that she wants.
30:30Without a doubt.
30:31And so...
30:31And more.
30:32And more.
30:33I'm very protective
30:34of my friends
30:35and I kind of feel blindsided.
30:37I don't know
30:37how to process it.
30:38I don't even know
30:39where any of this is going.
30:42If this is where you want to be
30:44and the route you want to take,
30:46we got to have a strategy.
30:48Yeah.
30:48So, like,
30:49how long are we thinking
30:50before we get the ring?
30:51How long are we thinking
30:52before we propose?
30:54Next 60 days.
30:5560.
30:56Yes.
30:56I truthfully cannot make sense
30:58of why Jordan was acting
30:59like everything was just
31:01peachy cream.
31:02But I still have hope
31:04that they can get back together.
31:06I just think that maybe
31:08right now
31:09the focus should not
31:10be the proposal.
31:11It should be healing
31:12and working through this hurdle
31:14and then we can get
31:15to a proposal.
31:16I want y'all to walk
31:17into peace.
31:18Right.
31:18No, that's what you're...
31:19All angles.
31:20Yeah.
31:20Walk into peace
31:21and I think that
31:22it's essential
31:23to propose
31:24at the right time.
31:26Yeah.
31:26How sure are you
31:27that Khloe is ready?
31:29Because what if
31:29she doesn't say yes?
31:39What you making?
31:41You always loved something.
31:42You swear you would
31:43share for something.
31:44Any use?
31:45I'm making a charcuterie though.
31:49I'm excited to see Josh.
31:51I have not seen Josh
31:53in a while.
31:55He should be here
31:55any minute now.
31:56I already texted
31:57the gate code.
31:58Will invited Josh over
31:59because he wanted
32:01to check in on him.
32:03I'm worried to sip a little
32:04wine and kick my feet up.
32:05I look good though.
32:06And listen to y'all.
32:07I'm excited just
32:08to put eyes on him
32:09and make sure
32:10everything's good.
32:11I know it's a transition.
32:13Like a big transition.
32:15Josh and Will
32:16created their own
32:17type of connection
32:18and I think that
32:20he just wanted to see
32:21how he's doing
32:23due to the fact
32:24that Josh and Elena
32:26are going through
32:27separation
32:27divorce
32:28or whatever
32:29they're doing.
32:29You looking good now.
32:33You ain't playing.
32:35Smelling good.
32:36Looking good.
32:36Feeling good.
32:37Don't make me blush.
32:38Last time.
32:39Last time.
32:40He so called
32:41one fire.
32:41That boy living way
32:42enough.
32:44How's his family?
32:45How's all that
32:46kind of stuff?
32:47So we got Papa back.
32:49That's a blessing.
32:50He had to go
32:51through his transition
32:52with his dad
32:52and see how it is
32:53to be here or there.
32:54I get it.
32:55That's um...
32:56I resonate with that.
32:58You know, currently
32:59my kids are going
33:00between households too.
33:02Never in a million years
33:03would I have thought
33:04I would be sitting right here.
33:05When Josh arrived,
33:07I definitely could sense
33:08that that was the weight
33:09of something heavy.
33:11I can't imagine
33:12what that's like
33:13to build and create
33:15a life with somebody
33:16and then all of a sudden
33:17your world is flipped
33:18upside down
33:19and everything
33:20is swept
33:21from underneath you.
33:23Y'all don't understand
33:24what I've been through.
33:31Y'all don't understand
33:31what I've been through.
33:32So y'all just kind of
33:34figuring life out separately?
33:38I was told
33:39I had to leave the house
33:41and so not to say
33:43that I was surprised by it
33:45but I was kind of surprised
33:47about how it happened.
33:48It's important for Josh
33:49to know what you're going
33:51through is real too
33:52and it shouldn't be disregarded
33:55because you're a man
33:56or because you were
33:58the one at fault.
34:00None of us are perfect.
34:01I know what I did
34:02without a character
34:03but I just felt like
34:04at the time
34:05like nothing I could do
34:05would make her happy.
34:07I really want to know
34:09because if I was a husband
34:10and I took our investment
34:13and wanted to make it
34:15more than what we had now
34:16and you as my partner
34:17is supposed to be there
34:18for me, right?
34:19So I want to know
34:20about that part
34:21because that was like
34:22a big deal.
34:23Oh, the money part.
34:25But why?
34:26Why did you do that?
34:27So I've never heard
34:29Josh's side of the story
34:30you know,
34:31nor have I like
34:32seeked any of that information
34:33but at the same time
34:34I do know Alina said
34:36that he lost
34:37a great bit of that money.
34:38I was making
34:39some investments
34:40that I felt like
34:41was going to change
34:43our lives.
34:45I didn't handle
34:46things correctly
34:47and in that moment
34:49instead of
34:50talking through things
34:52I tried to solve
34:53a problem on my own.
34:54Okay, at that time
34:55I felt like
34:56I was the breadwinner
34:57and I think that
34:58he just wanted to
34:59be that breadwinner
35:00in that moment.
35:01Okay, would you do
35:02the one thing
35:03that's going to hurt me?
35:06But he has
35:07a different side
35:09of the story
35:10and I want to hear
35:11Josh's side
35:12of the story as well.
35:13This is 2020
35:14COVID shutdown.
35:16I guess the image
35:17of it all
35:17was that
35:18she ran the business
35:19and I was just like
35:20behind
35:20I was just like
35:21this sidekick
35:22or whatever.
35:23I did everything
35:24behind the scenes.
35:25So would you consider
35:27that more of like
35:28partnership
35:28or assistant?
35:30No, it was definitely
35:30a partnership.
35:31I don't need to be
35:32the face of any beauty brand.
35:33For sure.
35:34We partnership.
35:35We a husband and wife.
35:3675% of that business
35:38would not have even
35:38happened had it happened
35:39for me.
35:40So only 25%
35:41is without you.
35:42But 75%
35:43that's a big chunk.
35:44Everything that
35:45that business
35:46was involved in
35:46except putting a brush
35:48to a face
35:48I was involved in.
35:50And then 2020
35:51we got shut down.
35:52Nobody knew
35:53how COVID
35:53would translate
35:54years to come.
35:55And there was
35:56a lot of things
35:56going on with the studio.
35:58You know,
35:58rent backing up.
35:59And so I'm not
36:00justifying what I did
36:01by any means.
36:02I just tried to
36:03solve an issue
36:04which was like
36:05I know finances
36:06are hard right now.
36:07Let me try to
36:08figure this out.
36:09And I overestimated
36:11my intelligence
36:12and not my emotional
36:13capacity
36:14to handle losses.
36:16And I just
36:16overestimated it.
36:17And I ended up
36:19trying to invest money
36:20and I was losing money.
36:21I'm like let me fix this
36:22let me fix this.
36:22I kept losing money
36:23and it just got
36:24over my head.
36:25Was it a secret
36:26when you was
36:27investing in these things?
36:28It was something
36:29I couldn't tell.
36:29Telling nobody.
36:30So she didn't know
36:31so she felt betrayed.
36:32She didn't know
36:33she felt betrayed.
36:33She didn't know
36:34to the very end.
36:35To the very end.
36:36It was like too late.
36:37Yeah for sure.
36:37Did you feel like
36:38you couldn't come to her
36:39until it was too late?
36:41What did you think
36:41was going to happen to you?
36:42Because I never felt
36:43like my feelings
36:43were valid period.
36:44I never felt like
36:45anything I came to her
36:46was valid.
36:47Why would a man
36:48want to destroy
36:49his entire financial situation?
36:51Just because of his ego.
36:53Just because you
36:53were the breadwinner.
36:54But that was
36:55that was how she
36:55conjured it up in her mind.
36:57Right now what it
36:57sounds like to me
36:58is there was no outlets.
37:00Yeah.
37:01Like there was nobody
37:02he could tell
37:03he could lean on like.
37:09Yes.
37:10Because of guilt.
37:12Oh that's deep.
37:14One of the things
37:15that was said about me
37:16is I was anti-therapy.
37:17Is it because you
37:19she had to beg you
37:20to go to marriage therapy
37:22or?
37:22No no no.
37:23I was like
37:23if this is what
37:24needs to be done
37:26to heal
37:27okay.
37:28You know what I mean?
37:29But in counseling
37:30she was saying
37:31I can't do this no more.
37:32I can't do this no more.
37:33I can't do this no more.
37:34I broke down.
37:36Why would you bring me here
37:37only to do that
37:38in front of the camera?
37:39To tear me up.
37:39Why would you say
37:41I want to do therapy
37:41only to get me to therapy
37:43and then
37:45ended us.
37:47Even after me leaving
37:49I tried to reach out
37:51because I thought
37:52it was just space.
37:53And then I was like
37:54can I take you on a date?
37:55She goes
37:57I'll let you know.
37:58I called her
37:59on our anniversary
37:59and I even wrote her a letter
38:00and I gave it to her.
38:03And she had already
38:04made plans
38:04to take the kids
38:04to the movies
38:05on our anniversary
38:06and I was like
38:08now I'm starting to realize
38:09that this ain't just space.
38:11I called her in the morning
38:12and I'm talking to her
38:14and reading the letter
38:15very cold
38:17says she's gonna take a nap
38:18takes a nap
38:19takes the kids
38:20to the movies
38:21I called her back
38:22at 8 o'clock in the night
38:23just to like
38:24check up on her again
38:24like again
38:25we hadn't really
38:26been with each other
38:27for two months
38:28but I'm still like
38:29holding out hope
38:30that maybe like
38:30this will turn around
38:31for us
38:32and so
38:32after anniversary
38:34like
38:34I just started
38:35like realizing
38:36like
38:36she don't want this
38:37she going out
38:39partying
38:40like
38:40I was exed
38:41out of everything.
38:42It's been months
38:43since I've last
38:44spoken with Elena
38:45the last I've heard
38:46was her and Josh
38:48have separated
38:49but to hear him say
38:51like
38:51I got kicked out
38:52you know
38:53like that's definitely
38:54not what
38:55we got from her
38:56it was very enlightening
38:58there's always
38:59two sides
39:00to every story
39:01there's definitely
39:01two sides
39:01to every story
39:02and you have
39:03your side
39:04and you're not
39:05wrong for your side
39:06of a story
39:07you get what I'm saying?
39:08at this point
39:09you think
39:09there's no coming back?
39:14I can't unsee
39:15some things bro
39:20what happened
39:21happened
39:21a long time ago
39:22and I get that
39:23but I'm not the only one
39:25in this marriage
39:25that did
39:26messed up stuff
39:28I'm not the only one
39:29in this marriage
39:29that did mess up stuff
39:30trust me bro
39:32you talking about infidelity
39:34you talking about infidelity
39:34like nah
39:34let's talk about
39:35everything then
39:37basically
39:38you wasn't the only
39:39person that cheated
39:54this season on Heart and Hustle
40:09we're back in the lab y'all
40:11this gonna be my butterfly season
40:15it's all about sisterhood
40:17it's hard to navigate
40:18alone
40:19in this space
40:20you just gotta bet on yourself
40:21when you're around powerful women
40:22you feel the great energy
40:24brick by brick
40:25we in Rome top
40:27my girls found love
40:30this is where we're sleeping
40:31are we gonna be sleeping?
40:33look good
40:34life's good
40:36but
40:37behind the scenes
40:38I just don't want you to feel like
40:39I'm trying to take you from your dad
40:41do you feel like you would be tempted
40:43to talk to another woman?
40:45I don't want to go in a circle
40:46to buy the conversation
40:47I want to move forward
40:48I want to have resolutions
40:49so you gonna leave me?
40:51why didn't you come to me first
40:53before talking about
40:54super delicate things?
40:56it's like she will never talk to you again
40:58and I'll never talk to huggy
40:59we gotta fix this
41:01Labrina don't start with me sweetie
41:03I can start with who I want
41:05and then
41:06things went left
41:08shut the f*** up let her talk
41:09or we gonna keep doing this
41:11three more f***ing times?
41:12some f***ing just ain't okay
41:14you a mean girl
41:15how are you fed up
41:16when you the problem McCloy?
41:17you think people supposed to
41:18kiss your ass and walk behind you?
41:19girl f*** out of here
41:20I've literally been a friend
41:25f***ing f***ing
41:26I'll see you in the background
41:26it's all
41:27you aa
41:28you aaa
41:28you aaa
41:30alright
41:31yeah
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