00:00okay bill simmons did you hear the actual podcast i did not i saw a tweet about it and like
00:06i want
00:06i wanted i was looking for it to find it i did it was super vague he was talking about
00:11oklahoma city trading some some expiring contracts and their picks at 12 and 17 to new orleans for
00:19trey murphy but somehow trey murphy ending up in boston i don't i don't know how he was getting
00:24around to this but the one thing he brought up and this is something that we have to ask ourselves
00:32is there really true accessibility to trey murphy uh who is big time score uh can play well with um
00:41on the defensive end of floor would be a really really nice addition to detroit but if oklahoma
00:50city's going to offer two picks that they have this year in the first round at 12 and 17
00:57talk to me about a realistic way that the pistons sitting there with the pick at 21
01:03and their future first round picks how do the pistons top an oklahoma city offer
01:08with picks at 12 and 17
01:12how do you how do you what do you do here well you offer players okay and what players are
01:18they
01:18going to want well that's a tough part
01:24thank you i mean to get pat i mean you what would be acceptable for piston fans i mean some
01:30piston
01:30fans don't have a problem moving a sar thompson but it seems like the pistons themselves are
01:36hell-bent on he's part of this this core which i get i don't want to move me either
01:41um and maybe the same thing goes with jaylen duran but jaylen duran's a free agent so
01:47yeah restricted free agent right so i don't know if that's gonna fly so it's gonna have to start
01:52with ron holland because that's a young player that has a ton of upside he's only been in the
01:59league for a couple years and he's been durable uh and then you're gonna have to go obviously with
02:03your draft pick that you have at 21 and and then you're gonna have to add to that a lot
02:09and i don't
02:10know if they have it but karis lavert you know what what value does he have duncan robinson they
02:18each have value i'm doing the show on you know wwno in new orleans and i'm hearing all this and
02:26i'm
02:26thinking i'd just rather have oklahoma city's two pairs you know what you're thinking i know
02:30no to the pistons yeah kang you heard the thing and it was really complicated what simmons was trying
02:35to put together i don't even think he really knows but it certainly did fire up social media
02:42but if it's if it's 12 and 17 how do they top that without cutting into the core you don't
02:48have
02:48to top it you just get a third team involved so they get their 12 and 17 or whatever and
02:53then you
02:53get the other team what they need you know what i mean like or you help sweeten their 12 and
02:5717 with
02:58ron holland or the 21st pick or whatever it is name you know what you're able to move a contract
03:04that's movable i don't know but that's how you get involved in so you don't have to necessarily
03:07top it you just got to get all parties just got to be happy so get a third team involved
03:12the other
03:13way is adding first round picks yeah you could but if if the pistons say we're going to give you
03:18our
03:18pick at 21 and a future first so we're giving you two picks or another one three and you know
03:2420
03:25because you still can't trade back-to-back first round picks so you're looking at we'll give you our 26
03:30pick our 28 pick our 30 pick and ron holland or oklahoma city offers them two first round picks
03:36and expiring contracts i'm gonna guess they're gonna take the two first round picks now i might
03:42be wrong but doug karsh host on wwno has probably taken the two first round picks now just saying
03:49what's supposed to be a deep draft yeah uh but that third team involved is there if oklahoma city is
03:55involved with two firsts what what do we i'm not i guess it would be awfully creative yeah if they
04:04want trey murphy they have the best ammunition to get them i mean then you just try to find i
04:08mean
04:09it's all draft capital yeah and you got to find a way to get yourself better and maybe that doesn't
04:13involve trey murphy yeah okay fair enough but oklahoma city is gonna have to find a way also to send
04:18salary out though because they've got they've got they've got contracts yeah yeah they've got
04:23contracts to move um i think bill simmons was mentioned in his podcast you know dort harten
04:29hartenstein like those type of guys and they would be willing to take on some too yeah i mean he
04:34was
04:35just i think the biggest thing that took out of it was like he thinks that trey murphy's getting
04:38traded soon here and so that means that it gets everyone talking like what can we work together
04:42and let's face it he wasn't reporting that oklahoma city was offering 12 and 17 but he was
04:48talking about somehow landing trey murphy in boston and i just never i never followed what he was putting
04:54together but his prediction that trey murphy would get traded i don't know if he's spitballing or he's
04:59hearing that yes i would like detroit to inquire the one thing i did take away is it's going to
05:06be
05:06awfully difficult to to get him in detroit if there are other bidders like oklahoma city
05:12do you think uh the relationship that joe dumars had with the prisons would
05:15be positive or negative if you're talking to norland pelicans about making a trade
05:21or do you think it matters not at all you know is it this is just business there's nothing
05:26no ill will all that stuff i would hope that it doesn't have anything to do with it because i
05:32think
05:32any acrimony is over there too by the way any of the acrimony i would imagine is with the fans
05:38not with with the ownership or the organization as a whole i mean they stuck stuck by joe for a
05:45long
05:46time so here's where you talk about can you top 12 and 17 well if they if troy weaver likes
05:51the
05:51players he drafted more than 12 and 17 from the pistons then yes right like yeah he he drafted let's
05:58be honest he drafted you know yeah exactly so he didn't the only guy he didn't draft was ron holland
06:05right and moving and forward yes holland is the first one holland was first yes the first one that
06:11the trajan so go get jaden ivy back yeah right
06:17you're on to maybe a little something he might value isaiah stewart more than the rest of the
06:22league does and i think we all like isaiah stewart's role but he's not unprotected like he's not
06:27untouchable well no and for a guy who only played what 10 minutes a game in the playoffs so you
06:31start
06:32with with multiple first round picks and him and isaiah stewart and i mean he he did not draft
06:40ron holland but interesting but it also i think what it made me think this is going to be tough
06:48do what you can to get him but it's going to be tough for the pistons to get training and
06:53remember
06:53langdon said at his end of the season presser that some things that they thought about exploring were
06:58more expensive than they realized or expected you know so if it gets too expensive they're not
07:02they're not going to go there well you know what what do we hear at the trade deadline in the
07:06nhl
07:06we heard that asking prices were astronomical what do we hear at the nba from our guys asking prices
07:13were bigger than we thought now we're the seller in baseball let's hope that those asking prices
07:21are astronomical and that someone's willing to pay it well they're going to move them regardless
07:28they have to move you can't hang on scuba yeah that's who we're referencing there's no way you
07:33can hang on to eric scuba at this point hey um something percolated on social media lines related
07:38over the weekend and a lions beat reporter had to go track it down and find out if there was
07:43truth to
07:44it we will get to that today at 12 54 punch the champ and jump calls more phone calls and
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