00:00Someone's got a Woody.
00:01Dude, I can't believe this.
00:04Pistons just made a great trade.
00:06They just made a great trade.
00:08They sent two second-round picks to Oklahoma City for Isaiah Joe.
00:16I have had this, like, basketball crush on Isaiah Joe,
00:20and when we saw that Isaiah Joe was one of the players
00:24that the Pistons might be interested in,
00:26I was like, there was, like, a list of, like, five or six guards.
00:30It was Kobe White.
00:31You remember that whole thing we went through last week?
00:33And I'm like, Isaiah Joe's the guy out of this group,
00:35and they got him for two second-rounders?
00:39Are you kidding me?
00:40Well, Oklahoma City loves to get picks.
00:43They do.
00:43That's one thing they definitely love.
00:45He's under contract next year at $11.3 million,
00:50and the year after that there's a club option,
00:52so the Pistons control that.
00:53So it's basically two years at $11.3 million.
00:56So here's what he's done over the last four years at Oklahoma City.
01:02He's a bench player.
01:04He's roughly played about 20 minutes a game in each of the last four years.
01:07Starting in the 2022-23 season, from three-point land,
01:1240.9% the next year, 41.6% the next year, 41.2%.
01:19And last season at Oklahoma City, from beyond the arc, he shot 42.3%.
01:27Dude.
01:28An average double-digit each of the last two years with 10 and 11 points,
01:31respectively.
01:31He's played in 55 postseason games.
01:35He's got a ton of postseason experience.
01:38He's been on a championship team.
01:41For two second-rounders.
01:42Kang, what am I missing?
01:43Do I love this too much?
01:45No, I absolutely love this.
01:47And Isaiah Joe was going to become available as soon as they drafted Bennett Sturtz.
01:50Like, I knew he was going to get moved because they just have too many good young players.
01:54Like, Oklahoma City Thunder, the only thing that held them back from winning a title again this year
01:57was injuries.
01:58Like, Jalen Brown or Jalen Williams.
02:00See, too many Jalens, man.
02:02Jeez.
02:02Dude, there's so many Jalens.
02:06But anyways, A.J. Mitchell, all those guys were hurt.
02:09And so, but they drafted Sturtz.
02:11So, someone was going to get moved.
02:13Isaiah Joe was a knockdown three-point shooter.
02:15Like, you need someone behind Duncan Robinson if he's still going to be on the team or not.
02:18But either way, Isaiah Joe is a great three-point threat.
02:22Loved the acquisition.
02:23Didn't give up much for him, obviously.
02:24Two future seconds.
02:25So, yeah, this is a good move.
02:27Fireball done?
02:28Do you think this will stop people from calling about Malik Beasley, too?
02:30This is what I wonder.
02:31It might.
02:32This is a wicked smart trait.
02:34No, I'm not going to drink fireball.
02:35Come on.
02:36But you can.
02:36Go for it.
02:37What do I care?
02:39It is.
02:40I think this is reason to celebrate.
02:42What a smart trait.
02:44I'm not drinking fireball.
02:46That's a two-second rounders.
02:50Two-second rounders?
02:51That's impressive.
02:51And you said he's played 55 games in the postseason.
02:54He has.
02:54And he's shot 38% from three in the postseason.
02:58So, there's not a whole lot of drop-off.
02:59You are going to love Isaiah Joe.
03:01Now, some of you out there may be very familiar with his game and think I'm overplaying this.
03:06I love him as a player.
03:07Well, he's a bench guy.
03:09He fits exactly what they need, though.
03:11A.
03:12And B, for two second rounders, that's like nothing in the NBA.
03:18So, think about it this way, too.
03:19Okay?
03:20When you go with second units.
03:21So, now, if your second unit is some kind of combination of Isaiah Joe, Abuka Okori.
03:30There you go.
03:31Get it right there.
03:32The rookie that they just drafted.
03:35Danis Jenkins.
03:36You know, Ron Holland.
03:37Whatever you want to combine there.
03:39I think it starts to look pretty good.
03:41Particularly if it's Okori and Joe.
03:43You've got Okori who drives to the hoop all the time.
03:46And then you've got Joe who can just sit out behind the arc and knock down those shots.
03:50So, this is a brilliant addition when you look at who they just drafted.
03:56Because everything everybody said about Okori is he creates his own shot and he creates shots for others.
04:01Because he draws attention.
04:02He takes it to the rack.
04:03Everybody comes and collapses on him.
04:05He can dish it out.
04:06And, hey, here's Isaiah Joe ready to knock down a three.
04:08That looks pretty impressive.
04:09This is the closest thing since Thomas Dumars, right?
04:13Since what?
04:14Oh, yeah.
04:14As far as backcourt?
04:16Yeah.
04:16Isaiah Joe.
04:17Thomas Dumars, guys.
04:19Come on, man.
04:19It's perfect.
04:22It took me a sec to pick up what you were putting down, Keg.
04:24Very well played.
04:262485-399-797.
04:28From an unnamed texter, the Devin Booker calls have become as annoying as the Malik Beasley calls.
04:34Just because the dude wears a tiger hat, the Suns are not giving him up.
04:38Yeah, look, I mean, fans have their favorites they'd like to see a team go get.
04:42But, unfortunately, acquiring players isn't like walking into a store and plucking Devin Booker off a shelf and taking him
04:53to the checkout and paying for him, right?
04:54I mean, it's way, way harder to pull this kind of trade off.
04:58And there's no indication that Devin Booker, I mean, he just changed his number and they had a big thing
05:03with the Suns.
05:04He's honoring his dad with it.
05:05And I guess that doesn't mean he can't possibly get traded, but I don't suspect that that is happening.
05:11I think Tyler Hero is a perfect fit for us and our identity.
05:14Jalen Brown is a bit cryptic and has a bit of drama that follows him.
05:18I'll take Hero for a cheaper price.
05:20Yeah, I could see the concerns there regarding Jalen Brown.
05:24But his game, I mean, if you get Jalen Brown and a sign-and-trade with Jalen Duren, you're getting
05:30a player that gets into the lane.
05:32He's a great finisher at the rim.
05:33He dunks on people.
05:35He will hit threes with people in his face.
05:39Like, this guy at 29 years old, he was their leading scorer last year.
05:43Of course, Tatum was out.
05:44But in the playoffs, he was their leading scorer when Tatum was back.
05:47He averaged 26 a game in the postseason and shot 40% from three.
05:51If you are to pull off a Jalen Duren sign-and-trade with a couple of draft picks or maybe
05:57three, whatever, for Jalen Brown,
06:01is B-Ball Paul your starting center in the market to try and find somebody else?
06:07Yes, yes and yes.
06:09And Evan and I were talking about this before the show today about the possibility of what he'd do.
06:13I said, does that make Paul Reed effectively your starter?
06:16But Evan's got a great belief in it.
06:18Evan, you should probably talk about this.
06:22Because...
06:22Do you have a lot, Mike?
06:23We've got to get Evan and Mike.
06:23Evan's up here engineering.
06:25I thought he had a great take on this.
06:26And about, you know, how do you go about replacing the loss of Jalen Duren if you have to trade
06:34him?
06:34And, you know, Evan, I'll let you speak for yourself as soon as you get that in there.
06:39You kind of caught him off guard here a little bit.
06:40Oh, no, I did.
06:40Sorry.
06:41He's got to plug in a mic.
06:42Hi.
06:43Hey, Evan.
06:43There you go.
06:44You can hear me?
06:44Yes.
06:45My point is, if Jalen Duren is just a pick-and-roll guy for the Pistons,
06:50you could pay 40% of the money and get 80% of the output from a guy named not
06:57Jalen Duren.
06:58Jackson Hayes is a free agent.
07:00Just guys that are pick-and-roll bigs, right?
07:02That's what Duren is.
07:03He wasn't going to come in this year hitting 18-foot jumpers out of nowhere.
07:08I'm a firm believer that an NBA player, you either can shoot or you can't, gradually can go up,
07:15but that wasn't going to be him.
07:16So if you can spend that money and then save it to get your spacing on the wings,
07:21which I think that they want to do, but still maintain that pick-and-roll capability,
07:26that's where I would go.
07:27But I'm also not the GM of the NBA team, and I play a lot of 2K, so who knows?
07:32Right.
07:32But you also host the Pistons podcast.
07:34Oh, yeah, Restore the Floor with me and Stoney.
07:36Yeah.
07:36Yeah.
07:37Remember?
07:37We talk hoops.
07:38Well, we didn't do it this week because I was up here with you guys.
07:41He wanted to do it really bad.
07:42Right.
07:42So I can understand why.
07:45There's a lot going on.
07:46What do you make of the Isaiah Joe signing?
07:48It's great.
07:49It's the shooting that we're talking about at a cheaper price, right?
07:53So I don't know if that's going to change their looks at, like, a Norman Powell or something like that.
07:58I see that they want to go save money but spend it elsewhere,
08:04but it all lines up to a trade for somebody with a big name.
08:09Doesn't it seem that way?
08:10Yeah.
08:11It sure does.
08:12Yes, it does.
08:13Sure does.
08:14And I think Dern asking for a sign-in trade would be the Pistons' best-case scenario.
08:19You don't get stuck with that huge contract, and you can spend that money elsewhere, right?
08:23And if you're good at developing bigs, then that's what you use your first on next year, right?
08:29Trajan, you dog.
08:31He's up to stuff, man.
08:32This has been fun.
08:33It's been really, really fun.
08:34And the Pistons, if you're just joining us today, have pulled off a great trade.
08:39Who reported?
08:39I forgot to give credit.
08:40But, Ken, you told me.
08:41Was it Shams?
08:42Yeah.
08:42Okay.
08:43Among others, but, yeah, Shams.
08:45Isaiah Joe to Detroit for two second-round picks.
08:49As soon as I heard the name Isaiah Joe, I'm like, oh, God, why'd they give up?
08:53When I heard two second-round picks, I'm like, are you kidding me?
08:55That's it?
08:57Love it.
08:58Love it.
08:59248-539-9797.
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09:03You can text us at that same number.
09:07What else do we got here?
09:08I will be livid if the Pistons match and offer anything over $40 million.
09:12He is a slow one-dimensional big that has not shown any signs of evolving beyond the paint.
09:16Sign and trade all day.
09:18That's from James.
09:19He showed tremendous signs of evolving during the regular season.
09:22Yeah.
09:23I mean, he jumped big time from one year to the next.
09:26He did not carry that over into the playoffs.
09:29And that's why everyone is saying, got to get rid of him, got to get rid of him.
09:32Because it's what your eyes saw last in the most important time of the season.
09:36Yep.
09:37And, look, he's still only 22.
09:40Like the, what is this text?
09:42One-dimensional big that has not shown any signs of evolving beyond the paint.
09:46Not yet, no.
09:47But there are players that evolve over the course of their careers.
09:50And he's got a lot of work to do.
09:52And if the Pistons have any questions about his work ethic, then there's nothing wrong with getting rid of him.
09:58That's, in fact, they should.
10:01If they don't think he's going to put in the work to improve his game.
10:04From an unnamed texter, I'd say 99% chance this Durin reporting is standard posturing.
10:10And I assume they'll get a deal done similar to Austin Reeves.
10:13That's fine.
10:13Because if you get a deal done with Durin, you still have an opportunity to go out and improve the
10:18roster with all the things we've talked about over the last couple of days.
10:22Well, I hope they don't get a deal done with him similar to Austin Reeves.
10:25Because wasn't that a monster deal?
10:26Like $50 million a year?
10:27No, I think he says the posturing is done.
10:30But they'll get a deal done similar to what happened with Austin Reeves.
10:33He was posturing with Austin Reeves.
10:35I think we all knew he was going to go back to him.
10:37That's how I interpreted that text.
10:39Okay.
10:392-4-8-5-3-9-97-97.
10:41Looks like we're going to have another edition of Are You Going to Eat That in the Noon Hour.
10:44We've got some stuff going on in the NHL, which is, I think, very Dylan Larkin adjacent.
10:50That is coming up today at 1131.
10:53Plus your phone calls and feedback.
10:55Busy, busy day here on Carson Anderson on 97.1.
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