00:01okay uh we're going to turn our attention to a little bit of college and we'll get back to the
00:06pros because we're in a weird space i i don't i feel like the passion quotient for michigan
00:14michigan state has been waning for years a lot of that has to do with michigan state not holding
00:19up their end of the bargain and then it got to michigan being known cheating scumbags so
00:24you can't really care that way now it's just both programs kind of cratering at the same time with
00:31two new coaches that i i don't know that anyone's thrilled with well
00:36kyle winningham said some things i said but it's big 10 saturday night it is not this isn't on nbc
00:45this is on peacock kind of big 10 saturday night question sure so
00:53i want you to take the lead here because i know you're you're in love with these comments you are
00:59just in love with the winningham thing i so i'm just the because i've seen this movie before
01:08it was jonathan smith year one at michigan state when they asked him about the rivalry game and
01:17exactly and he well you know i've been in them before i played oregon and it's just you know
01:23it's two teams playing and he downplayed it the entire time and everybody kept telling him
01:29coach it's not that way you really need to take this seriously because they're going to go out there
01:35and try to destroy you this is different than anything that you ever know he comes back after
01:40the game and says you guys tried to warn me this game just hits differently well kyle winningham
01:48michigan's coach he kind of downplayed the ohio state rivalry and you know whole friends with urban
01:54meyer so after their game against ruckers on saturday it's now michigan state week and
02:01reporters asked him about michigan state game and here's what he had to say
02:05like he's saying
02:24you
02:25you
02:25you
02:25you
02:25you
02:26you
02:28you
02:30you
02:31you
02:45you've been busy doing your job you don't know anything about Michigan State I don't know if I
02:49would admit it that publicly but he did so 48 hours later you would think that they would sit
02:56him down in a room and say okay coach you screwed that one up here's what you need to say
03:02about
03:03Michigan State it's rivalry week and you know like it or not as bad as they are they're gonna
03:07try to come after you with whatever broken hammer they have here's what he had to say 48 hours later
03:27so
03:31so
03:36so
03:37so
03:39so
03:39so
03:39so
03:40so
03:57yeah um i just got jonathan smith vibes when i heard that i was like are you
04:06are you serious right now this this is this is what you're prepared to do now michigan's defense
04:12head shoulders above michigan state but the whole uh you know it's it's it's super bowl at least for
04:19them it's their super bowl uh you know i'll figure it out and some bad blood and the tunnel incident
04:26and things and stuff and yeah i'm blown away this man really does not seem like he wants to be
04:36here
04:36anymore like he is just trying his best coming off of the heels of what you said about ohio state
04:42at this summer this is what you have to say this is this is your inspirational leader david this the
04:49guy that's gonna lead you out the tunnel granted no one cares about this game you've been relegated
04:54to streaming while real football is being played on saturday but you gotta do better than this
05:01i love and i'm i'm gonna stay in the background on this momentary i want david please go ahead
05:08you do have to be better than this i heard those comments on saturday and i couldn't believe what
05:13i was hearing and i do have to give credit to mike because he has been comparing him to
05:19john l smith for us that he is our jonathan smith and i'm like uh okay yeah i don't like
05:28what i see
05:28but no i saw it saturday could not believe that answer and then clearly he was told by someone
05:37yes on sunday or early monday morning our talking point yeah it's got nasty there was a fight in the
05:45tunnel like everything was told to him it was like i told paul yesterday it was like rivalries
05:51for dummies all of a sudden he had a crash course and was told and he had every bullet point
05:57you don't
05:57on monday you two don't need me here you've just hit the three main things i was gonna hit he
06:02is he
06:03is not engaged he is a detached disinterested flailing confused coach he doesn't know anything about it
06:13because he shouldn't know anything about it you hired a guy from outer space coaching in utah may
06:19as well be planet nebular how do i know that because i lived it so david took the one thing
06:26i was gonna
06:26say that that's the equivalent of handing him a couple of three by fives that's one step from telling
06:32him hey and remember at the end of everything say go blue like they they they they had a fight
06:37in the
06:38tunnel they attacked our players it's their super bowl he doesn't know that someone told him that
06:43right i was like to say this once again did you just say this publicly now their team i said
06:50the
06:50defense is enough that they'll they'll they may shut michigan state out but correct are you serious
06:56this this was your pre hype speech i only i only could wish uh that msu wasn't a baby seal
07:06because i
07:06would i would love to whoop their ass i i like they are such a clown show watching that game
07:11against
07:12ruckers was so embarrassing whittingham is so embarrassing everything about their operation
07:18offensively is embarrassing but unfortunately state is hapless and they won't be able to do
07:24anything about it but okay here's the thing if i were a wolverine that would tell me a lot about
07:29i we
07:30really do not have the right guy for this this is this is not the direction we can go this
07:35guy is
07:36grandpa simpson we can't do this like here's the thing just real quick david guess ruckers
07:40didn't have a quarterback didn't have the best wide receiver didn't have the best defensive player
07:44and i'm thinking and michigan was a 17 point favorite i would have bet the farm okay you can't
07:51beat this team by triple digits something's wrong instead i'm like are they about to lose the ruckers
08:00they are not they didn't but it was not pretty david go ahead it's hearing those comments on saturday
08:06you know just bringing people behind the curtain we put our stuff together on our show sheet and i put
08:11that thing on there saturday like yet another sign that this guy has to go like this is another sign
08:18he cannot answer it like this well oh you know like no dude i just i i and i would
08:25leave this to
08:25wolverines i i again i feel like i say the same things about fitzgerald they say about whittingham
08:32there was a day and age a time both of these guys would have been home run hires in the
08:39sport
08:39that time is not now whittingham was ushered into retirement for a reason
08:46utah has carried on and been better without him okay he comes here as your third fifth fourth sixth
08:55choice just depends who you talk to it's it's i i would be out of the whittingham business
09:01the minute thanksgiving hits i'm done yeah for michigan state it's the same thing i don't have
09:07any slander for pat fitzgerald it was a bad hire it's a bad hire at a bad time you know
09:13six seven
09:14years ago absolute grand slam college football's changed this guy's been out of work you know
09:21didn't have players to bring etc etc etc but at least fitzgerald i i will credit him in this regard
09:27and i know winning a press conference sure as hell isn't winning a game i don't even remember
09:31what winning a game feels like it was eastern michigan fitzgerald thank you
09:37well timed fitzgerald understands this he understands the big 10 he understands the rivalry
09:44he understands the history of michigan state i i will give him credit for that the problem i refer
09:51on the flow chart to the baby seal we don't have any players right but the whittingham thing would
09:57be deeply disturbing to me as a michigan fan because he he missed the mark on the ohio state
10:02game and he's missed the mark on the michigan state game and lord knows he's missed the mark on the
10:06season so i i leave it to wolverines you tell me does that sound like a guy you want to
10:13invest in
10:13year two or year three here i'd be done at the end of this year i am not convinced he's
10:20back next year
10:20i'm not buddy i think secretly if you hooked him up to the uh meet the parents lie detector
10:28if losing the msu got him kicked he gets the bobby williams i think he'd do it and take the
10:34money
10:34right the bobby williams on monday he's fired yeah
