00:00Okay, Victory Day in Manhattan has sparked a conversation here about the Lions and a
00:06victory parade and the idea of can you even imagine seeing it in your lifetime and can
00:10you even visualize what the hell it would look like?
00:13But we want to bring in, against my will, Pistons conversation because I think Langdon
00:20is kind of just telling you what's up and it's just a complete disagreement on how things
00:25should be.
00:26But here we are.
00:27Now, I'd offer you audio, but well, it's not good.
00:33So we're just not going to do that.
00:35But David has some quotes that I can read to you.
00:38And I think one of the things you have to do when you listen to GMs speak is you have
00:44to
00:44kind of parse words.
00:46You have to kind of read between lines on certain things.
00:50So let me give you this one.
00:54Langdon on getting better.
00:56I can't stand here and say we don't want to get better.
01:00So getting better means you got to win the second round for us to be better.
01:03It doesn't necessarily mean we have to win 64 games.
01:06I don't think we're trying to do that.
01:08If we did, that's great.
01:10But we need more equipped.
01:11We have to be more equipped to compete in the postseason.
01:13That's what we're looking at doing, adding pieces that accentuate our three best players, our core three players.
01:24Cade.
01:25Who would that be?
01:27Here's your core.
01:28Cade.
01:30And?
01:32Cade.
01:33C. Cunningham.
01:34Cade.
01:36And Cade.
01:37Now, if you want a hope cast or justify it by salary, Duren, okay.
01:44Fine.
01:45Fine.
01:45Cade.
01:46Duren.
01:48who who the hell's the third member of this core oh wait a minute now is this the part where
01:55you're telling us the sewer is untouchable is your core seriously two players who have no
02:01offensive ability is your your core is two guys who can't shoot outside of six feet
02:07that that's what you're telling me see here's why that bothers me you you really should have just
02:14said how we accentuate kade cunningham we've one of the best players in the sport my job's to put a
02:21championship team around him you know what i'm not doing the detroit thing playing favorites
02:27getting seduced by your own and now all of a sudden whiz bang pow this is our big three
02:35k durin a sewer see doesn't that foreshadow they're gonna overpay during and here's the next best part
02:42they're gonna do exactly what i said they were gonna do they're gonna sign a sewer here ahead of
02:46time there it is i am am i wrong in reading into it that way nope you are not that
02:54is exactly how it
02:56sounds to me and to every other detroiter who either heard or read what he said michael yeah
03:04that durin and a sore are part of the core and these are two guys that look durin can score
03:11in
03:11the regular season thompson can play great defense but to me they're they're additional they're side
03:18pieces they're not a core piece you're right the best way to say this is we got to build around
03:24kade
03:24we got to put the best team around him because we have one of the superstars in the league right
03:28there you go but what did he do he did this ymca we're all in it together routine who who
03:35the hell's
03:36the core three if you're do you believe right now your big three is kade durin a sewer that's going
03:44to
03:44be the championship trio and all you got to do is what put a little salt and pepper over the
03:50top of
03:50that baked potato is that bro you could have had you could make a better argument and put tobias in
03:58one of the big three and i can at least say well he did do something he's getting up there
04:03in age but
04:04there's a better argument for tobias to be one of your big three than these two
04:10does that foreshadow the type of offseason we're gonna have or look i can respect wanting to keep
04:18those three together i guess i will continue to go back to this when a sore and durin were on
04:26the
04:26floor together in the playoffs on a per 100 possession basis you averaged 88 points per 100 possessions
04:35for context the brooklyn nets who were the worst offense in basketball averaged 92 per 100 possessions
04:45for the season you have to prove to me that a sore and durin can play together in the playoffs
04:52now i understand if you think you can strip down everything else to keep those three like somehow
05:01you could acquire trey murphy for ron holland the dead body of karis lavert and four first round picks
05:09i get that mindset i do but there's no world these three are your core because you can't run a
05:17play for
05:18two of them you know you're nailing it mike it's it's if that's the case then i'm just gonna double
05:27team kade or just blitz kade all the time which is how you end up getting put out of the
05:32playoffs
05:33and you guys beat me and guess what they couldn't do it and now i like a sore i like
05:40his defense i like
05:41everything that he said i don't think you could have both if you told me that it was kade a
05:46sore and
05:46we're gonna go out and find that third piece to have a big three i could live with that the
05:52durin
05:52thing i know he's 22 he's got time i'm kind of cashed out hey you know who was 22 once
05:59and looked
05:59like an all nba player and got a big contract and now he's dog water deandre eight and they're kind
06:05of the same player brother you know what just go ahead and go home okay i don't just go ahead
06:14you're on fire right he's trying to add a shred of value to the proceedings you get my point that
06:19is a great example it's co it's hoping by people now teams are just saying you want aiden uh i
06:26don't
06:26want him no he's a negative asset hey you know who was sweet at 22 and didn't keep getting better
06:30john moran hey you know who was all nba a few years back at like age 22 and now he's
06:36probably a 50
06:37million dollar liability who's not as good as the rookie who should be playing above him
06:41dearon fox being 22 is not some license to keep getting better it's just not so it could happen
06:50the point i'm making when we bring this up and langdon talk today why are you showing your hand
06:58because now there's no way you're going to turn around by monday or even fourth of july and free
07:06agency and trade a sore or durin or do something seismic you've told everybody this is what it is
07:15you're the same guy who said it's about to get expensive and what we pay durin directly impacts
07:20our ability and flexibility around kate cunningham yet it sure seems like you're gonna waltz right into
07:29that so look i want to say it again i totally understand wanting to see if i got rid of
07:38everything else to keep these three can i do that first do that behind closed doors i i don't love
07:46this anointing of our because who else is he talking about is the core it's a sore and durin and
07:54kate unless they bring back tobias there's no world a 34 soon to be 35 year old power forward
08:04is your core if that's your core stay home okay but you're also talking about this is the core of
08:10during durin and a sore so there's a world here in detroit where yeah tobias could be one of those
08:16guys i hate to break the news to you mike i know no i look man i know i just
08:20want to hear from the
08:21people now here's the other comment you tell me what you want to do here and this this is the
08:26one
08:27this scares me a little bit this is the whiz bang pow the names will be the same but the
08:33team will be
08:33different scott harris thing i think we have to look at both regarding improvements we got to look at
08:40both but again we have to get better whether that's internally or externally it's a combination of
08:46two things we put out player development plans for our guys i think all of our guys will get better
08:53next year it's magically delicious i mean just sure just osmosis everyone just gets better cool
09:03i mean i'm sorry what are you a marvel hero all of our guys will get better next year we'll
09:09come
09:09back a better team so i think overall that's the best way we'll grow is internal growth in terms of
09:16taking a step we'll continue to look to see if we can add other pieces to help us continue to
09:25improve
09:25and come back a better iteration of the detroit pistons than we were this year well yeah and the
09:31fact that the bar i guess is to get out of the second round now not championship i i can
09:38only
09:38give you this it doesn't mean i'm right i'm not trying to do like a receipt thing so please don't
09:46do that with me i can only tell you emotionally when i read those two things what i feel it
09:51makes me feel
09:52like once again they just want to be good enough to reach in your pocket that they're not trying to
09:59win
09:59a championship when the gm himself says the goal is to get out of the second round now to take
10:05an
10:05incremental step when this is the same gm who talked about getting better in the margins this is the same
10:10gm who's now in a declarative moment saying oh no we have our core when every fan on the planet
10:17is
10:17going no no no we got to get k to robin we have batman we need a robin i.e
10:24core peace superstar
10:26no no the gm is saying we have our core and we handed our homework assignments for the summer
10:32everyone's going to do their book report and everyone's going to get better and we're going
10:36to improve internally rico how else am i or any fans supposed to take those comments if you don't
10:45like how i'm reading into them please feel free to sell me this pen well mike i think it's it's
10:52consistent to he's saying how like this year the goal was to get out the first round and next year
10:57the goal is to get out the second round he's not sitting there saying we're trying to have a parade
11:01in downtown detroit the disconnect even if we don't go into that the disconnect is everyone on earth is
11:07saying we need to get k to number two is that something where we could all stand up live and
11:11sing we are the world yeah we know we got to get k to robin right yeah and we're accepting
11:17that if we get robin i could have duran as the third piece okay how can be the fourth fine
11:24if
11:24you can pull that off that's why i said i get what he wants to do but there's there's idealistic
11:30and
11:30realistic the realistic outcome is you're never getting the player you need without giving up one
11:36of those guys any big time trade to get a big time player the first thing a team's going to
11:43ask for
11:43when they look at this roster is probably a sore yeah because it'll be cheaper than duran can guard
11:50five positions and they probably have more shooting at their their current store anyway that you could
11:56be my defensive stopper on the court and he's a hyper athlete open floor you can do some things right
12:01rico i i just again the disconnect i thought the assignment was pretty simple for the pistons
12:08move heaven and earth this offseason to get kade his 1a or or number two and instead we're met with
12:16this now if you think he's playing poker and he's lying all i would caution you is this it's pretty
12:22weird
12:23to identify your core and then put a bullet in the head of one of your core in the next
12:28seven to ten days
12:29that's a pretty weird move so what do you make of it guys two four eight five three nine ninety
12:36seven
12:37ninety seven we'll talk about that we'll continue with the phone calls we'll get the texts and yes
12:42david i want your take because i know you you might have had one other quote from him we'll do
12:46that too
12:46ninety seven one
12:47you
