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Mike Valenti and Rico Beard react to the Chicago Bears' dominant Monday Night Football win in Seattle and break down what it means for the NFC North race.
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00:02all right let's get going on a tuesday and uh obviously this campbell thing it's it still
00:07hangs over everything but i you know we are another day later i know we have a job to do
00:12and we will do our level best to do that we'll give you any updates we get um we'll start
00:17out
00:18and let's just get into some football i guess um did you watch last night i know you did
00:25paul david i mean monday night football you can now all right juxtapose it a little bit
00:32are the bears a problem yes or no you know are the chicago bears going to be a problem
00:38i know in this town everyone's got a hate boner for ben johnson but i think you saw it on
00:45display
00:45last night that acquisition of jeffrey simmons that's why it was such a dumb ass opinion about
00:50overpaying jeffrey simmons what was a a one-man hand grenade that just detonated every everything
00:57seattle wanted to do led the team in tackles had multiple tfls had a sack had a knockdown
01:04um caleb williams is playing like a top three quarterback in this league commanding the
01:10position it's lions and bears bears are my preseason pick i had the lions as the wild card
01:17i could easily reverse them my point is in this town it's blasphemous unless you're you know you
01:26got to be one of these blue kool-aid drinkers no i'm gonna say nice things about the bears ben
01:30johnson's a demon the jeffrey simmons thing guys you know what they acquired here i'll speak in terms
01:36you might understand they they acquired indomican sue and his prime that's what they acquired that's
01:41good comp so again it doesn't mean they're going to win this division it doesn't mean they're
01:47going to win a super bowl but you know i don't believe in minnesota we talked about that last
01:53week i the packers just don't have enough able bodies i think it's you and it's it's it's chicago
02:00and i i truly believe unless something surprising happens between now and then one of the biggest
02:06games of the nfl season one of the most impactful games will be thanksgiving day here and it it won't
02:12be for all the marbles it'll be for a lot of them it will that's where i'm at rico that's
02:18that looked
02:19like a super bowl team last night you don't go into seattle and do what they did and they they
02:24they
02:25buried that team i mean and and by the way it wasn't about protecting their quarterback or you know
02:30throwing it five times in the second half or whatever the lions did on on sunday caleb williams
02:36lit that team up no one had passed for more than 200 yards against that he would he have 255
02:41yeah
02:42and yeah for anybody saying well you know well what did what did they what did that really mean you
02:47you went to seattle and you could say hey ford field is this tough place to play you can ask
02:52nfl
02:53player that is the worst place to play on the road and they went out there and they manhandled the
02:58seahawks and they just basically kept them at bay and every time seattle would get it close
03:02chicago would be like wait watch this yeah what we're gonna get in simmons instant impact like
03:08i understand it's one game but wow yeah that's why it was just with the he just got there and
03:14they basically just said hey jeffrey go get the quarterback what what scheme are we playing
03:20doesn't matter you're jeffrey simmons go get the quarterback can you do that for me buddy all right
03:24yeah and i think it is important it's one game but it's back-to-back weeks they've they've
03:30beaten both teams are in the super bowl last year and they beat them like a drum but i look
03:34this is really what it'll boil down to is do you believe you are good enough as currently constituted
03:39to do this yeah um look you're gonna rack wins and you've been very fortunate you know you should
03:46have lost to the saints you should have lost to the packers you didn't good teams win those games
03:51lines are a good team but you're gonna rack wins and it'll probably still come down to the two games
03:59head up i mean i i think when when the bears go out and they've beaten some of the good
04:05teams on
04:05the schedule that you don't have to face those are things you tried to count as losses and the bears
04:11they lost their quarterback for four weeks and they're right there with the same record so yes
04:17i think they're they're they're a problem but the question is just do you believe the lions is
04:21currently constituted are good enough to do this or do you think they've got to get in the arms race
04:26and we i know we've talked it to death but we don't have a choice yeah i just struggle with
04:31the
04:31lions as currently constituted because i don't buy the last three weeks as some defensive renaissance
04:37i i buy it as you played two of the five worst quarterbacks in the sport and then a deeply
04:43flawed
04:43packer team where if they don't complete the yolo ball they don't do anything so i'm not the guy who
04:51wanted shep fired nope i told you that was a dumb idea and i also never believed your defense was
04:57that i mean it was egregious before the bye but i don't think they're super bowl good i don't even
05:03know that they're good full stop i mean at best could the lions be mediocre defensively maybe but i
05:10would love to see this team make a move i don't know what that move is um but the lions
05:15have done what
05:16they've needed to do two really nice divisional wins you what is it defend the den built to roar
05:22they defended the den the only i wish that some of the games were being like i wish you to
05:28play
05:28minnesota at minnesota this week so that you would have had the return game at home instead of playing
05:33three of your last four games on the road all divisional opponents all could it be inclement weather
05:39so that's the only reason why i look at those last four games like oh my goodness it's going to
05:45be
05:45very difficult but it's election day michael yes so let's have some fun with this we're not allowed
05:51to do that yeah we are let's have some fun with this it's election day people okay go ahead i'm
05:55going to put the poll out there for you i'm not going to text you on your phone i'm just
05:59going to
06:00say 248-539-9797 or you can text us your answer this goes out to all the lions fans out
06:08there whether
06:09you are a kool-aid drinker a brad bot a takeover person or you're a lions hater simple question do
06:17the lions have enough to win this division yes or no that's it no proposals no slanderous commercials
06:26yes who hates the or no no one hates the lions that is mouth breathing sub 70 iq narrative if
06:36you
06:36critique a team it doesn't mean you hate them it just means you're not an idiot right but to the
06:41kool-aid drinkers and the brad bots you're not with us you know how politics i know i know i
06:46understand
06:47i totally get it but unlike mike valini didn't say we would go 17 and oh yeah no i i
06:54did not like
06:54valini failed a test in fourth grade probably can you trust this man to do radio in detroit
07:02yeah i think 25 years of being honest while all the bought and paid for idiots are just
07:07routinely wrong yeah i'd like to think so but you're right it is a political
07:13football's racist and puppies suck okay god i can't wait for this all to be over
07:20248-539-9797 okay so to answer your question you're saying as currently constituted are the lions
07:27good enough to win this division they are good enough they are i just don't know that i can pick
07:35them to do it i've got to see the thanksgiving day game and i know it's another game here right
07:40it is
07:41goofy by the way and i don't think it's fair to the lions if i'm the lions i would be
07:45so upset and
07:45livid like really we got to two minnesota to green bay and to chicago that's not in between a
07:51sandwich game with a team fighting to make the playoffs in the giants so we have to stay focused
07:57on the giants even though our minds are really going to be for those final two games on the road
08:01yeah no i don't think it's fair in that sense how that and i also don't love that they got
08:05an early
08:06bye week again i know i'm quibbling but i don't i don't i don't like the early bye week i'm
08:12gonna say
08:12right here right now you need to make a move no because i don't think that you have enough to
08:19counterbalance the chicago bears and the improvements that they've made now green bay
08:25they're going to get their version they're going to get michael parsons back i do think they're going
08:29to be better than what they were here now will their receivers catch passes i don't know but
08:35they're going to get they're going to get their main piece back on defense as well so you got to
08:39wonder like if parsons played in that game but that game had gone any differently you have to if you
08:45don't make a move if you stand pat no i don't think that you have enough to counterbalance
08:51chicago coming here on thanksgiving day and those three road games at the end of the season because
08:56that's where your defense is going to really need to step up in my opinion yeah and and look i
09:00it's
09:02it's tough because winning in the this is going to be so counterintuitive and i make my life harder
09:07by actually using my brain winning the division and then ultimately winning a super bowl are not these
09:14mutually exclusive things correct i think the lions have an inside track because when you look at this
09:22i hate doing the on paper schedule game you guys know this now that we have empirical data
09:28none of the teams that were perceived bad ended up being good generally that happens like last year
09:37if you had seattle on your schedule they were 65 to 1 to make the super bowl they were expected
09:42to be
09:43quite bad they were not so that's one of the things that they'll get to stack some wins but there's
09:50a
09:50real high chance both of these teams are going to meet on thanksgiving day sitting at eight and two
09:57yeah and the winner of that game now look i have to give the lions the advantage in that game
10:03based on being the home team you know my thoughts i think it's very hard to come in here to
10:07ford field
10:08but i know what you're gonna say and you're gonna have your little chef hat on the lions don't win
10:13on
10:14thanksgiving they do not outside of the mat eber flu's mathematical brain freeze they they don't so
10:22again we'll get to the game we'll see who's healthy who's not and go from there it's not that i
10:27just look
10:27at this team the way they're constituted can they slow down caleb williams and his escapability
10:33because you really haven't seen that like kyler murray i thought was but then he just decided i'm
10:40not running anymore and yeah you know what i'll concede to the senator from troy yes he is terrible
10:46he's terrible no no he's charles he's terrible okay he's not terrible terrible so when i watched
10:55caleb last night and that was the seattle defense that that was the top ranked defense them in
11:02minnesota and how he was able to just escape the pocket it was like four or five times he should
11:08have been dead to rights somehow managed to get out of there throw the ball 30 yards down the field
11:13and hit a dunes they in stride yeah and pick up a first down i don't know if that defense
11:19right here
11:19right now if you don't make any moves i don't think you stop that here's your odds as we sit
11:24here today
11:25and again take them with a grain of salt you could throw them in the garbage you do whatever you
11:28want
11:28your odds to win the nfc north and i'm i'm pleased to see the market adjust to the fraud that
11:34is the
11:35vikings uh it is not the vikings favorite it's the bears at plus 155 the lions at plus
11:43220 the vikings at plus 250 and i think appropriately the packers at plus 900 so again
11:50i think it's you and chicago i do think the bears are a problem i do think the jeffrey simmons
11:55thing
11:55if you watched it last night we could nerd out a little bit it'll just tell you that outside of
12:01i
12:01thought one idiotic move by dennis allen right before the half you don't need to bring a yolo blitz
12:07and leave a backup corner in stevenson on jsn and and it was a it was a weird call generally
12:14they
12:15they were able to rush for and and body this team and simmons was a big part of it was
12:19such a weird
12:20call i had to sound down i thought they i don't know i thought they blew the play dead they
12:25did not
12:26how did he wow yeah wow nobody knew where jsn was at okay but it's it's also look i i
12:36think the
12:36caleb thing and i understand there's a bias and you're reticent to do it and and if you're just
12:41going to look at things on paper that's fine if you put goff next to caleb williams they are not
12:46nearly the same caleb is superior you can get mad at it you can chant the name in the grocery
12:52store you
12:53do whatever you want all but the number here's the numbers caleb is now completing 70 plus percent of
12:59his passes he is right there with patrick mahomes as far as making throws off schedule off platform
13:06out of the pocket you saw it again last night you've got the best offensive mind in the sport arguably
13:14and caleb has an arm talent that jared doesn't have i think jared goff is very good but there's no
13:22scenario jared goff's great caleb can be great and it's happening before our eyes and you can bristle
13:29scoff you can curse do whatever you like it's just my opinion i'm sure you'll find other people
13:34who will disagree with that that is wonderful um look the lions the bears are going to have to prove
13:40they can beat the lions ben johnson has a lions problem it does so that game on thanksgiving becomes
13:46the appetizer the main and the dessert but i still would i think the lions need to make a move
13:53because i
13:54think the league has changed i think it's an arms race i'd like to see the lions do something
13:58substantial preferably with a corner do what ryan poles did make a phone call to a player that's
14:04primarily not available and you just say well say no here's the offer go to bed with it and think
14:11about
14:11it but i want to know what people think do you think the lions have what it takes to get
14:16this done
14:17or did last night alter your perspective where the bears they put up one of the most impressive
14:22regular season wins league-wide that we've seen 248-539-9797 we'll get with the people
14:29uh we'll give you any updates we can on jack campbell and um we'll continue along it's 97-1
14:34uh we'll continue along it's 97-1