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The West Bengal CID has launched a probe into allegations of forged signatures on a Trinamool Congress (TMC) letter that endorsed Sovondeb Chattopadhay as the Leader of the Opposition in the state assembly.
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01:06Raw over Bengal, LOP endorsement letter. Three TMC MLAs claim their signs were forged.
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02:12Alright, news break coming in right on top from West Bengal.
02:14A CID team has reached Abhishek Banerjee's residence again today to get his signature on a notice.
02:20CID is investigating forged signature case.
02:23Abhishek Banerjee was summoned today at the office but he asked 15 days time as he is unwell.
02:28Another TMC, Neta, now claims that his signature was forged.
02:32Arup Roy, a former minister in the Mamata Banerjee government,
02:36claims that the signature on the letter shown to him by the CID was not his.
02:42All of this in light of the CID team reaching Abhishek Banerjee's residence the second time today
02:50in connection of the entire forged signature controversy.
02:55Joining me for more, Anupam Mishra who joins us from Abhishek Banerjee's residence.
02:59Abhishek, what's the latest?
03:00Anupam, what's the latest?
03:05Well, Priti, let me show you the residence of Abhishek Banerjee.
03:09This is the Kalighat residence of Abhishek Banerjee where CID team has just left the residence.
03:13They have waited for around one hour here and CID team had reached here to submit,
03:20to sign a copy of notice from Abhishek Banerjee.
03:24You know Abhishek Banerjee was summoned today at 12 o'clock at Bhavani Bhavan, the headquarters of CID.
03:30But Abhishek Banerjee sent a letter to CID seeking 15 days time because he is unwell.
03:37He cited the reason that he is unwell.
03:40And after that, a CID team, this is the second time CID team reached here.
03:44Before that, two days back, CID team reached here and served him notice for summoning today.
03:50But today, a different team, a team of 11 members of CID had reached here.
03:55They have taken a notice with them and they have to wait for about half an hour
04:00when a representative of Abhishek Banerjee came down and he took the notice with them
04:07and he later came back with the signature of Abhishek Banerjee to the team.
04:12So a notice has also been served to Abhishek Banerjee by CID team.
04:17And this pertains to the fake signature case, a letter which has been given on 19th May to the Assembly
04:25and around 70 MLA's of Trilmulka Congress has signed on that letter
04:33supporting Shobhan Dev Chattopadha as the leader of opposition.
04:37But later, a discrepancy came that few of the signatures are forced, fake.
04:43And a special investigation team has been constituted to probe these allegations.
04:51And the CID team has came in connection with that case.
04:56Priti.
04:57All right, Anupam, continue to stay with us.
04:59Let's quickly dip into all reactions coming in on this story and we'll quickly move forward.
05:05You mentioned two people who have been named, two of your party MLA's who now stand expelled.
05:11They have been named by Chief Minister Shubhendu Adhikari, Sandeepan Saha and Rito Broto Banerjee.
05:16They have this signed, that's the question.
05:19They are signed.
05:19They are signed.
05:20They were present there.
05:21Yes, they are present there.
05:22Both of them were present there.
05:23They are signed on the minutes and I got the document also with me.
05:32So then what is it that they are raising?
05:34What is the point that they are raising?
05:36Point of the raising, they have decided not to be with us or anything else they have decided.
05:43Before that, party has taken a decision and expelled them from the party.
05:48That is the right decision by the party.
05:50Party has taken a decision.
05:52I still believe that I am a soldier of the party.
05:55So anyhow, party has taken a decision.
05:57I won't challenge the decision of the party.
05:59Party is supreme always.
06:00But the issue that you have raised seems very serious.
06:03Why?
06:04Because I have spoken to Shubhendu Chato Bharadayi and he said that he was present in that meeting
06:08and there were signatures of 70 odd Trinamal Congress MLAs and they have the requisite number
06:14to get the LOP post.
06:15See, we signed on 19th attendance.
06:19There was no resolution.
06:20There was only a single resolution to congratulate Obhishek Banerjee.
06:24Everybody should stand up, give him a standing ovation.
06:26There was no resolution about the LOP.
06:33or any other post on 6th.
06:35On 19th, we were asked when we were signing to put the data 6th.
06:39We had done that.
06:40But when we were signing, we saw many MLAs are not present whose names are appearing in
06:45the book.
06:47So he thought it is necessary.
06:49And as a custodian of the house, the speaker is the supreme authority because inside the party,
06:54the Obhishek Banerjee people are doing that.
06:56So how can I go and tell him?
06:59The law is, the law is, the law is, the law is, the law is, the law is, the law
07:02is.
07:02It is necessary to be aware of it.
07:03And after that, after the law, the system is following a process, we can continue to
07:09The process is not followed here.
07:12There were so many days, the first of the Birodi, then the government came to the
07:15government, today the Birodi is gone.
07:17But the process is not forgotten to follow.
07:19It was a lot of compliments.
07:21It was very difficult.
07:22That's why I thought my parents said that there is no problem at this meeting.
07:27Because there will be nothing left.
07:29After that, it will be said that.
07:31Then it will be said that.
07:33It will not be heard of anyone.
07:35Just in the way, there will be said that.
07:37So wherever we don't have the opportunity of talking to ourselves,
07:40wherever we follow the process, whether there is a law,
07:52foreign
07:56foreign
07:57foreign
07:59foreign
08:14That's not my signature.
08:44She, through that social media post, has warned that she would protest in Delhi if police denies permission for a
08:51Kolkata demonstration over the attacks on TMC leaders.
08:55Listen in.
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10:01Our West Bengal Bureau Chief Indrajit Koundu joins us right now. Indrajit for the benefit of our viewers break down
10:07the latest political dynamics right now at play in West Bengal.
10:12At one end, you had the CID at Abhishek Banerjee's residence over what some of the MLAs of TMC say
10:20are forged signatures which were presented in the Assembly.
10:23On the other hand, Manta Banerjee now threatening to launch a campaign from tomorrow, if not given the permission, then
10:29threatening to come down to Delhi.
10:35Well, you know, the Trinimal Congress facing attack, multi-pronged attack right now.
10:40You know, we are behind Abhishek Banerjee's residence in Kalighar.
10:43This is where, just a short while back, a CID team came to serve him a fresh summon.
10:48Because today he was supposed to appear before the CID, which he could not, citing health issues.
10:55So he has been asked to reappear before the CID.
10:57What exactly is the case?
10:59The case is now being probed by the CID after complaint filed by two Trinimal Congress MLAs, Sandeepan Saha, newly
11:07elected Trinimal Congress MLAs,
11:09and Ritabrota Banerjee.
11:10We've just shown Ritabrota Banerjee's interview.
11:12Both of them are stating that there was a meeting of the legislative party that took place,
11:17in which there were 70-odd Trinimal MLAs, but some were missing.
11:22But their signatures have been put up in that registry, which, along with a letter signed by Abhishek Banerjee,
11:28was sent to the Speaker, providing the name, nominating the name of Shobhan Dev Chattopadhyay,
11:33as the leader of opposition of the Trinimal Congress.
11:35Now the government, Shubindu Adhikari-led government, has begun a probe,
11:40saying that this is a complaint that has come from the Trinimal Congress itself,
11:44two of their own members, alleging that the signatures were forged,
11:48that some of their party MLAs were not present in that meeting,
11:52yet their names were put up in that list that has been submitted by Abhishek Banerjee,
11:57who is not a member of the House.
11:59He is an MP.
11:59So this has snowballed into a major controversy with the police probe that has now begun.
12:05And Trinimal Congress now has expelled both Sandeepan Saha and Rito Broto Banerjee,
12:10ever since right in the afternoon, when Shubindu Adhikari Chief Minister himself came out
12:15in a press conference and announced that this entire probe, police probe,
12:19was initiated after the Speaker filed a complaint,
12:22put the police, based on the complaint filed by two Trinimal Congress MLAs.
12:27So this is clear embarrassment for the Trinimal Congress leadership, on the one hand.
12:32On the other hand, Mamata Banerjee is supposed to hit the streets from tomorrow
12:37to protest against what she calls post-poll violence
12:40and atrocity on Trinimal Congress party workers.
12:44But the Trinimal claims that the police has not given the permission
12:48and therefore they are not being able to organize the protest.
12:51So all eyes would be on the protest that Mamata Banerjee is supposed to undertake tomorrow.
12:56Will she be able to do it? That's the big question.
12:59Abhishek Banerjee behind me is holed up in this house.
13:02His health is not well, is what we are told,
13:06and that's the reason why he did not appear before the CID today.
13:10So, multi-pronged attack coming in against the Trinimal Congress
13:13while it is trying to regroup and resurrect the party
13:17in its worst crisis that is facing the Trinimal Congress in West Bengal right now.
13:21Back to you.
13:22Indrajit, very quickly, if you can, you know, elucidate for us.
13:25How many, how much truth in the fact that Mamata Banerjee had called 80 MLAs today
13:31and only 20 turned up, therefore the party then went ahead and said
13:34that due to the attack on Abhishek Banerjee, that meeting stood cancelled?
13:38What's the real truth in that?
13:43Well, you know, the truth lies somewhere in between
13:46because I have been talking to multiple Trinimal Congress leaders
13:49and they have all stated the same thing,
13:51that there is, that they fear for their lives,
13:54that they are not being able to come out.
13:55I have spoken to the, you know, leader of the opposition nominee,
13:59Shomundip Chatterjee.
13:59He was trying to reach out to a lot of Trinimal Congress MLAs,
14:02a lot of which who could not make it to the meeting that was called yesterday
14:07at a few days back at Mahmata Banerjee's residence, two days back.
14:10So, yes, the Trinimal Congress does have 80 members on pen and paper
14:15who have won on the Trinimal Congress ticket.
14:18But when it comes to, you know, a show of strength
14:21or coming out on the streets to protest,
14:24we are seeing dwindling numbers.
14:26And even Sandeepan Saha and Rito Proto Banerjee,
14:29there is a lot of speculation that they are in touch
14:32with some of these Trinimal Congress MLAs
14:34who may be dissidents, some have some issues against the party.
14:39Some may speak up in the days to come.
14:41But there is a sense of unease within the Trinimal Congress rank and file
14:45at this point in time.
14:46The party is clearly unsure
14:47that whether they will be able to bring the flock together,
14:51as I said, in their worst crisis that the party has faced in decades.
14:56All right, thank you, Indrajit, for joining us.
14:58We're going to get back to you for more updates.
15:00But, Piyos, let me just take you through multiple developments
15:02that have come in from West Bengal.
15:04A month into the new regime,
15:06allegations of political violence are back at the centre of Bengal politics.
15:10Something never quite changed in Bengal.
15:13Political violence, one of those.
15:15Abhishek Banerjee, Mamata Banerjee's nephew,
15:18was attacked in Sonarpur.
15:20A day later, TMC MP Kalyan Banerjee was injured in Hooghly.
15:24The TMC has now blamed the BJP,
15:26alleging a campaign of intimidation.
15:28The BJP rejecting the charges,
15:30calling it a legacy of TMC's own making.
15:33In the midst of that, of all of this,
15:36Mamata Banerjee now faces attacks on her top leadership.
15:40She is grappling with signs of rebellion within the party
15:43after its shocking defeat.
15:46Here's more.
15:55Not even a month after the BJP's term to power in West Bengal,
15:59ending Mamata Banerjee's 15-year rule,
16:03Bengal's politics remains as turbulent as ever.
16:07Violence reached the very top of the Trinamul hierarchy
16:10when Abhishek Banerjee, the party's number two leader
16:13and Mamata Banerjee's political heir,
16:16came under attack in Sonarpur on Saturday.
16:21Eggs were hurled, stones thrown.
16:24Angry protesters shouted,
16:26Chor Chor, as security personnel
16:28scrambled to shield the Trinamul leader.
16:31Chor Chor Chor Chor Chor Chor Chor.
17:01Chor Chor Chor Chor Chor Chor Chor Chor Chor Chor Chor Chor Chor Chor Chor Chor Chor Chor Chor.
17:05A day later, another Trinamul heavyweight came under attack.
17:09Party MP Kalyan Banerjee was injured during a confrontation in Hugalie
17:13while protesting the attack on Abhishek Banerjee.
17:19P.J.P.
17:20People, they will fight,
17:24they will fight,
17:25the fight against the fire.
17:29They will fight against the fight.
17:33Today in the field,
17:35they will fight against the war.
17:38They will not fight against the battle of all of us.
17:41They will fight against the war.
17:51The TMC has blamed the BJP for both attacks, accusing the new regime of intimidation.
18:37The BJP has denied the charges, claiming that the violence is a legacy of TMC's own rule.
19:08The attacks are only adding to TMC's troubles, still reeling from
19:13defeat, the party is facing signals of rebellion and an exodus.
19:18Nearly 60 of its 80 newly elected MLAs skipped a meeting called by Mamata Banerjee, forcing
19:24its cancellation and raising questions over her grip on the party.
19:28The irony is striking.
19:30The BJP wrote to power promising to end TMC's Gunda Raj and culture of political violence.
19:37Now, within weeks of taking office, it faces similar allegations.
19:43Power may have changed hands in Bengal, but if political violence remains the language
19:48of the streets, has anything really changed?
19:52Bureau Report, India Today.
19:59All right, joining me, Rajya Sabaha MP, Mr. Kirti Azad.
20:03Thank you from the TMC.
20:05Mr. Azad, thank you for taking the time out and joining me.
20:07First up, two quick questions, Mr. Azad, and we'll break it down.
20:11One, of course, on political violence and the other on clearly the kind of defections and
20:16internal rebellion that your party is witnessing.
20:18Is it true that 80 MLAs were called, only 20 showed up, then your party tried to cover
20:24it up by saying that because of the attack on Amishek Banerjee, the other MLAs haven't
20:29shown, so therefore the meeting is postponed?
20:32On the other hand, just a short while ago, CID officials were at Amishek Banerjee's residence
20:36serving him another notice for what your party MLAs claim, some of them, of course, of forged
20:42signatures of theirs that were presented by the party in the Assembly.
20:45Is the rank and file of the TMC breaking?
20:54Well, there's no truth to that.
20:55I suppose there are much more serious things than what you're talking about because BJP is
21:02known to break parties.
21:03They did with Shiv Sena.
21:05They did with NCP.
21:06They did with Akali Adal.
21:08They did with Jotala.
21:10And they finished Nitesh Kumar.
21:13Well, there is Naveen Patnaik, who quietly supported from the outside.
21:16They're known to break it, but it will be very difficult for them to break.
21:20But actual facts, which I feel, if you're going to castigate and keep on asking about
21:24Dhrinamur, then I don't have anything else to say.
21:27But I could say that the kind of post-pol violence that is being taken place, everything is there
21:33on the social media, and you should have a look at the way the BJP goons, this state and
21:38center-sponsored hooliganism and terrorism is carrying on in Bengal.
21:45It's all over the social media.
21:46You can have a look at it.
21:48You know, I understand your angst, Mr. Razad, but the fact is, you know, these are questions
21:55that I need to ask you as a journalist.
21:57If there is defection, if there is rebellion, I will need to ask you that question.
22:02But allow me to ask you this question as well, because there should be no space for political
22:07violence.
22:08But sadly, Bengal has been a hotbed of that, and nothing seems to have quite changed.
22:12Would you go as far as what Mamata Banerjee suggested, that there was an attempt on Abhishek
22:17Banerjee's life, or rather even Kalyan Banerjee's life?
22:20Why wasn't security provided to Abhishek Banerjee?
22:23Why was it downgraded?
22:28He's the leader of the Lok Sabha of Trinamur.
22:31He is a three-time member of parliament.
22:33He's the general secretary for all India Trinamurl Congress.
22:37And he's a very important person.
22:39And obviously, they are targeting these people, people who are popular people, target them,
22:46put fear in the minds of the people of TMC.
22:49When you're talking about killing, didn't Abhishek go to one of the workers who was killed?
22:55There have been dozens of killings that have taken place.
22:59Thousands have been displaced.
23:00Houses have been broken.
23:02Shops have been broken.
23:04Offices have been put down.
23:05This is all this is happening in Bengal.
23:08You showed a lot of it in 2021.
23:10Where is it trying to show you in 2026 all that BJP is doing?
23:13What is it?
23:14I can understand.
23:15Be objective.
23:18You know, well, Mr. Razad, we are being objective.
23:22And we did, at least on our channel, carried certain shows, which pretty much elucidated
23:27on all the political violence that has gone down in the state of West Bengal.
23:31Therefore, I said, not much has quite changed.
23:33What happened in 2021, practically repeating itself in 2026.
23:38Regimes might have changed.
23:40You know, I know you're angry, but okay, let me ask you what the BJP is stating.
23:44The BJP turns around and says, all the political violence that you see, you sow, what you reap.
23:49It's a legacy of your making.
23:53So, the law now is Tutankami, an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth.
23:57So, what happened to the Prime Minister when he said,
24:06So, his word also doesn't count.
24:08So, they are basically, when this changes again, so it is allowed that TMC could do that with BJP.
24:14Is that what is they're saying?
24:16You know, BJP is one party, when they are in power, they're the most cruel,
24:21because they've never had to really work hard to see that India got independence,
24:27and their mother organization.
24:28And it is the most coward we have seen, how they have written mercy petitions.
24:33So, these people basically would only be talking about communalism,
24:38and when it comes to the country, when it comes to the paper leaks, nobody is talking.
24:44One show, finished.
24:45I remember when Colgate, 2G, for months it kept on 1,72,000 crore.
24:53We have lost in this 2G.
24:55And later on, everybody was exonerated.
24:57We've seen those days also, and we're seeing today also.
25:02Mr. Azad, at least, you know, you would, if you're frank, you would admit,
25:06this is the toughest time that your party is facing.
25:08You know, you might not admit it, but there is internal rebellion.
25:12You have at least three MLAs that are speaking on record.
25:14Two of those have been expelled by your party itself.
25:17Mamata Banerjee is facing her toughest battle yet,
25:20to try and keep her party together and continue the fight against the BJP in the state.
25:28Well, I have seen my leader.
25:30She is a fighter.
25:30When the going gets tough, the tough gets going.
25:34And she is really ferocious when it comes, when she's in the opposition.
25:39So we have all seen her, and we know her.
25:43And she's going to get back.
25:45She's getting onto the streets from tomorrow.
25:47We know it.
25:48And you see how it's going to happen.
25:50There's a lot of, you know, the people who had attacked Abhishek,
25:54those local people condemned the BJP.
25:59They have said that the BJP guys cannot come in our mohalla, in our locality.
26:03We condemn them.
26:04We boycott them.
26:06Nobody's showing that.
26:07You should go and ask those people.
26:08They'll let you know.
26:09Hundreds of them were there.
26:10They were to receive Abhishek Banerjee.
26:12We've shown it on social media,
26:15how the BJP women's cell leader,
26:18she was there along with other women,
26:20with eggs in her hand, saying,
26:21I'm going to be a siswagat.
26:23Then we have also given the names and photographs.
26:26There are videos, but I gave it today in my press conference.
26:29I showed it all.
26:30We all know it.
26:33Okay, so, you know, okay, one final question.
26:35So what you're saying is that those who have been arrested
26:39for attacking Abhishek Banerjee
26:41are not the ones who actually attacked him.
26:44That's what you're saying.
26:45And the other part that you're saying is
26:47that the ones who actually attacked him
26:49were very much a part of the BJP,
26:51and there have been workers of the BJP
26:53that have been identified
26:54and the BJP is not touching,
26:56the police is not touching them.
26:57Is that what you're trying to say, sir?
27:01Yes, exactly.
27:03Absolutely right.
27:04Please go to AITC,
27:05All India, Trinamool Congress,
27:07Twitter handle.
27:08Go to my handle.
27:09See, we are showing those videos
27:11how food packets were being served
27:13to those people who came and attacked.
27:15What happened to the guy
27:17with that big brick or stone,
27:19whatever he had?
27:20What if Abhishek didn't have a helmet?
27:24Have you ever thought of that?
27:26This is the kind of violence.
27:27Where was the police?
27:30And then when the police came,
27:31it's still happening in front of them.
27:33Is that possible?
27:34We saw that Kalyan Banerjee,
27:35we saw Bappi Haldar,
27:37another MP yesterday,
27:38he's a first-time member of parliament.
27:40His office and his house were ransacked?
27:43Is this what the BJP called Tutankameen?
27:47It's the Tutankameen party,
27:48not the BJP party.
27:51Mr. Raza,
27:52thank you for taking the time out
27:53and joining us this evening.
27:54I want to cut across to our guests.
27:55Three of them will get two minutes each
27:57to put their point forward.
27:59I would like to begin with Mr. R.P. Singh,
28:02national spokesperson,
28:03Bharatiya Janata Party.
28:05Joining me, Monajeet Mondal,
28:06he's a political analyst
28:08with clear TMC leanings.
28:10And we have Mohua Chatterjee,
28:11senior journalist.
28:13Let me begin with Mr. R.P. Singh.
28:15Mr. R.P. Singh,
28:16you know, the charge is very clear,
28:18at least where political violence is concerned,
28:20where the TMC says
28:22you've arrested the wrong people.
28:24Some of them are on television cameras.
28:26There is one woman who is pelting eggs.
28:28The TMC has put out pictures of her
28:31with the BJP leaders.
28:32There is one man
28:33who is clearly seen hurling a stone.
28:36He has not been arrested,
28:38but yet arrests have been made.
28:44Riti, good evening.
28:46First, let me start with that
28:47we, I strongly and my party
28:49strongly condemn any violence
28:50or any act of violence.
28:51And yes, the strongest action
28:53should be taken against all those
28:54who were there part of the violence.
28:57But I am naming the people Akash Gyan.
29:00Gyan, he is very close to Lovundi Maitra.
29:03Kajal Das, Nirmalaya Sen Gupta,
29:10I mean, they all are part of TMC
29:13and they have admitted
29:14that they were part of the people
29:16who were attacking Mr. Abhishek Banerjee.
29:19And yes, if there are any more left,
29:21there are evidence on our call,
29:22the police will take a new action.
29:24It's not like Mamata Banerjee's regime
29:26whenever leaders were attacked
29:29like Mr. Amir Shah Ji was attacked.
29:33Mr. Dejusri Surya was attacked.
29:35Jalip Ghosh was attacked.
29:36JP Nidda Ji was attacked.
29:37Shankar Ghosh were attacked.
29:39And what did Abhishek Banerjee said?
29:41Are they, people are angry.
29:43They are angry.
29:44We are not saying that.
29:45We are not saying at all.
29:46We are saying, yes,
29:48we all know that people are angry
29:49with the TMC party
29:51the way they have conducted
29:52in the last 15 years.
29:54But again, action has to be taken
29:56and action will be taken.
29:57But again, this is within the TMC party.
30:01There is already a rebel within the TMC party.
30:04We have just now spoken to someone
30:06who said there were only 20 members
30:08who were present
30:08and 60 were not present there.
30:12Obviously, the people are not happy
30:15with the way that functioning is happening.
30:18And it's all because once out of power,
30:20the dynasty has started crumbling.
30:22The dynastic mindset has started taking a hit.
30:26So, we hope that we wish her all the best
30:30that she could manage her party well.
30:33But the fact is that the way she has treated her people
30:37within the party also,
30:38there are MLA's who have been openly speaking against her.
30:41And again, we never thought that someone
30:44with forged a sign for the MLA.
30:47I have to say, your time is up.
30:48And fair point with what you say
30:50that if the signatures have been forged,
30:53then the TMC must pay for it.
30:55If, and it is very clear
30:57that the TMC is disintegrating,
31:00fraying at its edges
31:01where certain leaders are leaving the party.
31:04Having said that,
31:05if there is a man who is seen
31:07on your television screens
31:08hurling a stone at any political leader,
31:11and his image is very clearly visible,
31:14if there is a woman
31:15who is very clearly visible
31:16of pelting eggs at a political leader,
31:19and some of them have been photographed
31:21with and are known to be BJP workers,
31:24then action needs to be taken,
31:26which hasn't been taken.
31:27I want to cut across now to the TMC's,
31:30I'll come back to you, sir,
31:31allow me to bring in everyone,
31:33and I'll come right back
31:34to Mr. Monajeet Mondal.
31:36Monajeet Mondal,
31:38the sheer fact that you,
31:39that the TMC today
31:40has MLAs who've come out rightly
31:42and said,
31:44our signatures were forged.
31:47That list of signatures
31:48was presented in the Assembly.
31:51Monajeet Mondal,
31:52for a student of politics,
31:53you completely understand
31:54the enormity of this crime.
31:56if it's true.
31:59I really don't know
32:01what is the fuss all about.
32:02I mean,
32:03if 70 plus MLAs have signed
32:06out of 80,
32:08and only three are saying
32:09that their signatures were forged,
32:11they were written capital letters,
32:13I really don't know
32:14whether their consent
32:15was taken over phone or not,
32:18that can only be revealed
32:19through investigation.
32:20But 70,
32:22they have signed...
32:23Isn't that enough?
32:26Whether they are forged or not,
32:27that has not been proven.
32:28They were written in capital letters.
32:30For God's sake,
32:31they are not signatures.
32:32We could see the letter.
32:34They are not signatures,
32:35the names were written
32:36in capital letters.
32:38I mean,
32:38nobody signs in capital letters,
32:40right?
32:40Whether they were forged,
32:42whether they were...
32:43They are definitely not forged.
32:44Whether their permission
32:45was taken before putting
32:46their names or not,
32:47that has to be inquired into.
32:48But how big the issue is this?
32:5170 people have signed.
32:53This is also...
32:54What you are trying to do,
32:55this is fishing out
32:55and something
32:57that is not so serious.
32:59There are other serious things
33:00are happening.
33:01I mean,
33:01I'm completely surprised.
33:03I still wish good luck
33:04to this government.
33:05The government has so many things
33:07to do,
33:08and they are all gunning up
33:10for these forged signatures,
33:12quote-unquote,
33:12forged signatures
33:13of two, three persons,
33:15including a person
33:16who was a perennial rusticator.
33:18I mean,
33:18I now pity the TMC,
33:22the Ritabhartha Benerjee,
33:23was taken into the party.
33:24In fact,
33:25I was one of the persons
33:26who was consulted
33:27by a very big TMC leaders.
33:28What is the opinion
33:29about this person?
33:29I said that he's a rotten egg.
33:31He shouldn't be taken
33:32into any party.
33:33He's probably in the history
33:34of Bengal politics.
33:35He's the only person
33:36who was expelled
33:38by two political parties,
33:40CPIM,
33:41and now by the TMC.
33:42None has faced
33:43this kind of crisis.
33:44I hope BJP
33:45is not going to take
33:45this person,
33:46his rotten egg.
33:47And a TMC
33:48is facing this rightly so.
33:49Absolutely rightly so
33:50from this particular person.
33:52Coming back to the issue
33:53and at least the Delhi leadership
33:55is condemning
33:56the attacks on Abhishek Banerjee.
33:58I did not see this happening
33:59from the Bengal leadership.
34:00Even if Abhishek
34:01is not popular.
34:02Okay, fair point.
34:03Fair point.
34:04But the fact that
34:05you're calling somebody
34:05a rotten egg
34:06shouldn't have been taken,
34:07it also speaks about
34:08a party that took
34:08that person in.
34:09Right, sir?
34:10I want to bring in
34:10Mahua Chattuji
34:12for the next submission.
34:13Mahua Chattuji,
34:14nothing quite really
34:15has changed.
34:16Political violence
34:17was a part of
34:19the fabric
34:20of West Bengal
34:21and it continues
34:22to be so.
34:23The regimes
34:23might have changed.
34:24Nothing has changed
34:25on ground.
34:32Ms. Chattuji,
34:33that's for you.
34:40Yes, ma'am.
34:41It is for you.
34:43Okay, the audio
34:44is not very clear.
34:45I'm so sorry.
34:46But could you just
34:47repeat the question?
34:50The sheer fact
34:50that political violence
34:51continues irrespective
34:59of regimes?
35:00I'm not.
35:01Okay, there seems
35:02to be an audio problem.
35:03We're going to try
35:03and connect to you, ma'am.
35:04I want to go back.
35:05Can I bring in
35:06Mr. R.P. Singh
35:07back into this conversation?
35:09Mr. Singh,
35:11you know,
35:11we're going to give you
35:11two extra minutes
35:12because we had
35:13Kirti Azad earlier.
35:14The fact is,
35:16nobody from the
35:17West Bengal leadership
35:18has actually condemned
35:20the attack
35:21on Abhishek Banuji
35:23or even Mr. Kalyan Banuji.
35:25I'll go a step further
35:27where certain leaders
35:28have actually made
35:29fun of the attack.
35:30And one of them
35:31is Mr. Dilip Ghosh.
35:38There's some problem
35:38with audio again.
35:40But whatever I could make
35:41out what you're
35:42going to say,
35:43right from
35:44the local party,
35:46the party from
35:47West Bengal
35:47to the national level,
35:49we all condemn
35:49what happened there
35:51outrightly there.
35:52But again,
35:53how are you comparing
35:53the two,
35:54the continuation of violence?
35:56I mean,
35:57could you imagine
35:57that Mamata Banerjee,
35:58what did she said
35:59after the RG car?
36:01Oh,
36:02what happened?
36:02I mean,
36:02the girl walked out
36:04at night.
36:04What did she said
36:06after the other cases,
36:09Sandesh Kali
36:10or the Kolkata Law College
36:12or the Kamudini gang rape,
36:15Park Street gang rape?
36:16What did she say?
36:18We are not saying that.
36:19We are saying action
36:20has to be taken
36:21whoever is involved.
36:23But again,
36:24you can't compare two.
36:25I mean,
36:26fact is that
36:27you are again
36:28wrongly comparing the two.
36:29The action will be taken.
36:31But again,
36:33there is a issue
36:34of timing also
36:35because CID
36:35has to go to his house.
36:37That's why probably
36:38there's some gossip
36:40in the Kolkata
36:41that it was timed
36:42in such a fashion.
36:45Allow him to have
36:46his final word,
36:47please.
36:47Go ahead.
36:47So,
36:47signature,
36:48fabricated signature.
36:50Make your point,
36:51sir.
36:51Make your point.
36:52We turned down
36:53your feed up.
36:53Make your point.
36:54So,
36:58fabricated signature
36:59could have been
36:59one of the reasons
37:00to await
37:01all that investigation.
37:03I'm not again
37:03saying that
37:04every act of violence
37:06has to be condemned.
37:07Action has to be taken.
37:07Action will be taken
37:08against everyone
37:09who is involved into it.
37:10Well,
37:10it's a matter of investigation
37:11but the kind of attack
37:12that...
37:12Not like Mamta Banerji
37:13where she has been shielding.
37:14So, you're saying
37:14just to evade CID action
37:16another theory
37:18that you're saying
37:19you know,
37:20is that to evade CID action
37:22actually
37:22Abhishek Banerji
37:23orchestrated
37:24an attack on him
37:25where a stone
37:26was thrown
37:26at his face as well.
37:27So,
37:28you know,
37:28it's difficult to believe
37:29but okay,
37:30it needs to be investigated.
37:33It needs to be investigated, sir.
37:35Lovely mantra.
37:37Okay, okay.
37:37It needs to be investigated, sir.
37:38We're going to leave it at that.
37:40I appreciate
37:40all who've joined us
37:42at this juncture.
37:43I want to quickly
37:44shift focus
37:45while we continue
37:45to keep an eye
37:46on all developments
37:47coming in
37:47from West Bengal.
37:49At the center
37:50now,
37:51the biggest storm,
37:52the CBSE storm
37:53is one firm
37:55called Coempt Edutech,
37:57the company
37:58that won CBSE's
37:59on-screen marking contract.
38:01CBSE is now
38:02being accused
38:03of changing
38:04key eligibility criteria
38:06during the tender process,
38:09making it
38:09allegedly easier
38:11for Coempt Tech
38:12to qualify.
38:14The issue
38:14has now drawn
38:15political attention
38:16with the Congress
38:17jumping in,
38:18asking who wanted
38:19Coempt to win.
38:20CBSE has rejected
38:22all allegations,
38:23insisting the tender
38:24was transparent
38:25and that Coempt
38:26met every technical
38:27financial requirement.
38:29But changes were made
38:30to meet that requirement.
38:32Why were the changes made
38:34is a question
38:35that now
38:36the CBC needs to answer
38:37for complete clarity.
38:39And all of this
38:40hasn't been raised
38:41not so much
38:42by journalists sadly,
38:43but by students themselves.
38:47A contract
38:48to Earthcross,
38:49a company
38:50under scrutiny
38:52and lacks
38:53of students
38:54demanding answers.
38:56After the controversy
38:58surrounding
38:58the on-screen
38:59marking
39:00introduced by CBSE
39:01for Class 12
39:02board exams,
39:03damaging revelations
39:05have put the spotlight
39:06on the company
39:07that backed
39:07the contract
39:08for providing
39:09the software
39:09for evaluation.
39:12At the heart
39:13of the storm
39:14is Coempt EduTech,
39:16the firm
39:16that won the bid.
39:18A class to a student,
39:20Sartak Sidhanth
39:21has flagged
39:22several alleged
39:23irregularities
39:24in the tender process.
39:26Armed with documents,
39:28Sartak pointed
39:28to a series of changes
39:30made before
39:31the contract
39:32was awarded.
39:33He claims
39:34the changes
39:35made it easier
39:36for Coempt
39:36to qualify.
39:41Among the changes
39:43under scrutiny
39:44is a clause
39:44that disqualified
39:45firms for post-past
39:47performance
39:48that was removed
39:49entirely.
39:51Blacklisting norms
39:52were also relaxed.
39:53Earlier,
39:54any past blacklisting
39:55could disqualify
39:56a bidder.
39:57The final tender
39:59barred only firms
40:00that were currently
40:01blacklisted.
40:02The software capability
40:04benchmark
40:04was lowered
40:05from level 5
40:06to level 3,
40:07a change
40:08critics claim
40:09made Coempt
40:09eligible
40:10and another
40:11requirement
40:12disappeared
40:13altogether.
40:14Bidders were
40:15no longer required
40:16to own the source
40:17code of their
40:17software.
40:20The issue
40:21soon turned
40:22political.
40:23Leader of opposition
40:24Rahul Gandhi
40:25amplified the
40:26allegations
40:26asking a pointed
40:28question.
40:28Who wanted
40:29Coempt
40:30to win?
40:34The controversy
40:35has also revived
40:36scrutiny of Coempt's
40:38earlier avatar
40:39Globarena Technologies
40:40linked to the
40:412019 Telangana
40:43exam, Rao.
40:44The company
40:45faced questions
40:46after discrepancies
40:47in results.
40:49Over 3 lakh students
40:50were initially marked
40:52failed.
40:53Several technical
40:54and administrative
40:55lapses were alleged.
40:5623 students
40:58allegedly died
40:59by suicide
41:00following the
41:01mishandling
41:02of the exam results.
41:04courts later found
41:05no wrongdoing
41:07by the company.
41:09The CBSE
41:10has strongly rejected
41:11allegations
41:12that it favoured
41:13Coempt.
41:15It says
41:16the contract
41:16was awarded
41:17through a
41:18transparent process.
41:20No rules
41:20were bent
41:21and Coempt
41:22met all
41:23technical
41:23and financial
41:24criteria.
41:29The debate
41:30is no longer
41:31just about
41:31a vendor
41:32or a tender.
41:33It is about
41:33trust in an
41:34institution
41:35that determines
41:36the future
41:36of millions.
41:37And the question
41:38remains,
41:39was this contract
41:40worth risking
41:41the future
41:42of lakhs
41:42of students?
41:43Bureau Report,
41:45India Today.
41:50All right,
41:51before we get
41:51in our panellists,
41:52the questions
41:52that we ask,
41:53why is the
41:54CBSE silent,
41:55completely silent
41:56on changes
41:58to the
41:58eligibility
41:59criteria
42:00during the
42:01tendering process?
42:02Why these
42:03changes
42:04necessary?
42:05Were these
42:06changes in fact
42:06necessary
42:07for the tender
42:08process?
42:09If not,
42:10why were they
42:10made?
42:11And lastly,
42:13did these
42:13changes which
42:14were made
42:15help Coempt
42:16Edutech
42:17secure the
42:18contract
42:18over TCS?
42:20And lastly,
42:21what stops
42:22the CBSE
42:23from disclosing
42:24the tender
42:24documents
42:25and ruling
42:25out favoritism
42:27in vendor
42:28selection?
42:31All right,
42:32let's quickly
42:32take these
42:33questions to
42:34our panelists
42:34this evening.
42:35Joining me,
42:36Mr. CB Sharma,
42:37Educationist,
42:37Anubha Srivastav,
42:39Sahai,
42:39President,
42:40India-wide
42:40Parenting
42:41Association,
42:42Professor
42:42Anita Rampal,
42:43Professor and
42:44former Dean
42:44Faculty of
42:45Education,
42:46Delhi University.
42:47I'd like to
42:48begin with
42:49Mr. CB Sharma.
42:51Mr. Sharma,
42:52you know,
42:52it's a strange
42:53quandary because
42:54it's the students
42:55who have actually
42:56figured out
42:56on how easily
42:57the system
42:58was exploited.
42:59Do you think
42:59it's time the
43:00CBSE makes
43:01very clear
43:01why these
43:02changes were
43:03made in the
43:03tendering system
43:04because clearly
43:05in the entire
43:06tendering process
43:07there were
43:08changes that
43:09were made
43:09and if they
43:10were made,
43:11did they benefit
43:12this particular
43:13firm?
43:16First of all,
43:17I would
43:17compliment you
43:18today for
43:19not inviting
43:20politicians
43:21because they
43:21would convert
43:22this discussion
43:23into a political
43:23debate of
43:25I'm happy
43:26we are
43:26educationists
43:27and we
43:27would take
43:27a different
43:28view of it.
43:29I'm positive
43:30about it.
43:31If there
43:31are questions
43:33asked about
43:33hiring an
43:34agency,
43:35engaging an
43:35agency,
43:36the government
43:36has to come
43:37clear on
43:38how the
43:38process was
43:39evolved and
43:40how the
43:41institution was
43:42selected.
43:43I think the
43:45question that
43:45is being
43:45raised is that
43:46Co-empt was
43:47blacklisted and
43:48then it was
43:49selected,
43:50the criteria
43:51where changes
43:52changed and so
43:54could Co-empt
43:54come in.
43:56It was blacklisted
43:57and then it
43:57changed its name
43:58and now it is
43:59in a new
43:59avatar called
44:00Co-empt
44:01EduTech.
44:02The argument
44:03also given
44:04is that a
44:05number of
44:05universities have
44:06hired it in
44:07Karnataka or
44:08other states.
44:10Don't forget
44:12universities are
44:13autonomous bodies
44:14which they take
44:15any season.
44:16CBSE is a
44:17government body.
44:18It's directly
44:19under the
44:19Ministry of
44:20Education so
44:21the question
44:22will be asked
44:22to the
44:23Ministry of
44:23Education but
44:25having given
44:26that argument I
44:27would definitely
44:27say that I'm
44:28all in favour
44:29of this
44:30technology as
44:31the former
44:31chairman of
44:32the National
44:32Open School
44:33I have tested
44:34this technology.
44:35I did not
44:36hire any
44:37agency for
44:38doing this
44:38because it
44:39involved initial
44:40glitches and
44:41I did not
44:42have time to
44:43do that.
44:43The system
44:44has been
44:44tested,
44:45teachers have
44:46been trained,
44:47the centre
44:47superintendents
44:48which are the
44:48principals they
44:49have been
44:49trained.
44:50So I don't
44:51think Preeti
44:51that there is
44:52a problem with
44:53the implementation
44:54of it if
44:55there is a
44:56problem and
44:56there is a
44:56problem,
44:57major problem
44:58it is with
44:58the selection
44:59of the agency,
45:00the agency
45:02has heard
45:02and I
45:03don't think
45:04there is any
45:04reason to
45:05defend the
45:06agency or
45:07the problem
45:09that has
45:09arisen.
45:10When Rahul
45:11Gandhi makes
45:12a statement
45:13obviously the
45:14minister will
45:14defend and
45:15it will
45:15become a
45:16political
45:16debate.
45:17I think
45:18let's keep
45:19it an
45:19academic
45:20debate.
45:21CBSC is a
45:21very very
45:22prestigious
45:22institution.
45:23Since
45:241962 it
45:25has never
45:26heard, it
45:27has done
45:27very good
45:28work.
45:29When it
45:29used to
45:30conduct the
45:30NEET exam,
45:31the JEE,
45:33rarely was
45:34a glitch
45:35or a
45:36fall.
45:37But since
45:39all these
45:39years, I
45:40think some
45:42interference has
45:43taken place and
45:44we should look
45:45into it.
45:45I would
45:46definitely say
45:47that the
45:48inquiry must be
45:49objective out
45:51of the
45:51government.
45:52Government
45:53should not be
45:54involved in
45:54it.
45:55Out of the
45:55government.
45:56Why I'm
45:56saying this?
45:57As an
45:57educationist, I
45:58believe CBSC is
46:00such a
46:00prestigious
46:00institution
46:01involving and
46:02impacting such
46:04a large number
46:04of people,
46:05families, that
46:06if the trust
46:07of the
46:07CBSC is
46:08lost, everything
46:09is lost.
46:10We all
46:10hold CBSC
46:11certificate.
46:13All right.
46:13Okay.
46:14I want to bring
46:14in Professor
46:15Anita Rampal,
46:16who seemingly
46:16has a
46:16contrarian view
46:17to Mr.
46:18Sharma, because
46:18Ms.
46:19Rampal, you
46:19are very
46:19clear that
46:20not only
46:21has the
46:22implementation
46:23gone completely
46:24awry,
46:25especially with
46:26the picking
46:26of this
46:27firm, now
46:27that is in
46:28question, but
46:28also the
46:29entire process
46:30in terms of
46:31digital screening
46:32should not
46:33happen.
46:34Yes.
46:36It's nice to
46:37meet Mr.
46:38Sharma, and I
46:38think something
46:39I might agree
46:39with him.
46:41We're meeting
46:42quite often
46:42these days.
46:43So I agree
46:44that this
46:47transparent
46:49acknowledgement
46:50has to be
46:51made.
46:51It is a
46:52reputed
46:53organization.
46:54And I
46:55remember
46:55maybe 14,
46:5615 years
46:56back, I
46:57was also
46:57on the
46:58governing
46:58body of
46:59CBSC as
47:00the dean
47:02of the
47:02Faculty of
47:02Education
47:03in Delhi
47:03University.
47:04And I
47:05think that
47:06responsibility,
47:07the kind
47:08of responsibility
47:09it holds
47:10with respect
47:11to schools
47:11and students
47:13and as a
47:14central board,
47:15even though
47:15it's smaller,
47:16I mean,
47:16it's smaller
47:17in terms of
47:17the number
47:18of schools,
47:18it really
47:19should
47:20acknowledge
47:21what has
47:22happened,
47:22make it
47:23transparent,
47:24and also
47:25then acknowledge
47:26what has
47:27happened in
47:27terms of
47:28the other
47:28flaws and
47:29glitches.
47:30That also
47:30is not
47:31being said.
47:31In fact,
47:32I happen
47:32to be in
47:33another panel
47:33with a
47:34young student
47:35and they
47:35haven't yet
47:36acknowledged
47:37or thanked
47:37some of
47:38these young
47:39students.
47:39I think
47:40that grace
47:40and that
47:41graciousness
47:42is essential
47:43for an
47:44academic
47:44authority of
47:45this kind.
47:45On the
47:46other hand,
47:47I think
47:47that this
47:48whole
47:49digitization
47:50is completely
47:52avoidable.
47:53In fact,
47:54I think
47:54it's detrimental
47:55to good
47:56assessment.
47:57And today,
47:59I was checking
47:59with many
48:00countries,
48:01a lot of
48:01my colleagues
48:02who work
48:02in different
48:03countries,
48:07and they
48:07are in fact
48:07shocked to
48:08hear that
48:10teachers are
48:11not marking
48:11physical copies,
48:13whether it's
48:14Canada or
48:15New Zealand
48:16or many
48:17countries that
48:18people were
48:19responding to,
48:19that they
48:20find it
48:21surprising.
48:21Of course,
48:22Scandinavian
48:23countries,
48:23Nordic
48:23countries don't
48:24have a
48:25board exam,
48:25so they're
48:26even more
48:26surprised that
48:27why do we
48:28go in for
48:28such a
48:29major thing?
48:29But other
48:30countries said
48:31that teachers
48:32make the
48:32papers and
48:33teachers market,
48:35and they're
48:35not very
48:36large,
48:36they're
48:36decentralized
48:37papers.
48:38So a
48:39country like
48:40Singapore,
48:40I mean,
48:41we can't
48:41say that we
48:42have to prove
48:44ourselves more
48:44technologically
48:45savvy.
48:46They have
48:46the technologies
48:47in every
48:48school and
48:48everything.
48:49They said
48:49no.
48:50In fact,
48:51even a
48:51parent said
48:52back and
48:52said no
48:53question,
48:53only multiple
48:54choice is
48:55marked by
48:56a machine,
48:58everything else
48:59is done on
49:00paper by
49:01teachers,
49:02and two
49:03teachers then
49:04go through
49:05it again.
49:06So there's
49:07a setup in
49:08which a
49:09teacher assesses
49:10it, and
49:10two teachers
49:11then follow
49:11it up.
49:12And they
49:13thought this
49:13is normal.
49:14So they
49:14were surprised
49:15that someone
49:16should be
49:16looking at
49:16PDFs and
49:17scanned copies
49:18and things.
49:19So for a
49:19small board
49:20of our
49:21country,
49:21I mean,
49:21Maharashtra
49:22has many
49:23more schools,
49:23Madhya Pradesh,
49:24Odisha have
49:25many more
49:25schools.
49:26All these
49:27years we've
49:27been managing
49:28our board
49:28exams, and
49:29this issue
49:30has not
49:30come up.
49:31And our
49:31teachers,
49:32I'm talking
49:33on behalf
49:34of teachers
49:34who have
49:35assessed and
49:36who are so
49:37sort of
49:38anxious about
49:39what has
49:40happened,
49:40that Trev
49:41and I was
49:41asking them
49:42what do you
49:42think should
49:42be done?
49:43They said
49:44even though
49:44people may
49:45have gone
49:46for vacation,
49:47but if we
49:48are called
49:48in a fair
49:49way to
49:49re-evaluate,
49:50we'll come
49:51back.
49:51Because we
49:52owe this
49:52to our
49:53own students.
49:54And there
49:54are 18
49:54lakhs of
49:55them,
49:55so the
49:56number is
49:57not small
49:57from any...
49:57teachers.
49:58That's not...
50:00I mean, the
50:00number doesn't
50:01matter.
50:01We've got
50:01the same
50:02number of
50:02teachers.
50:04Fair point.
50:04I don't have
50:04the time,
50:05sir.
50:05I just want
50:05to bring
50:06in a third
50:06panelist,
50:07Anubha
50:07Srivastava,
50:08to weigh
50:09in on this.
50:09Anubha
50:09Srivastava,
50:10go ahead.
50:12Yes.
50:13See, as
50:14far as
50:14this OSM
50:15marking
50:16scheme is
50:17concerned,
50:18the evaluation
50:19process no
50:20doubt we
50:21support it
50:22because of
50:23the transparency.
50:24There is a
50:24transparency which
50:25the students
50:26will be able
50:27to view
50:27their answer
50:28sheets.
50:29I, being
50:30a student,
50:32CBSE
50:32student, I
50:33scored 58%
50:34marks in
50:34my 12th
50:35board.
50:35And there
50:36was no
50:37such system.
50:37There was a
50:38evaluation
50:39system was
50:39in place.
50:40But then
50:41the board
50:41was at
50:42Ajmer, I
50:43suppose,
50:44during my
50:44time.
50:45There was
50:46no
50:46communication.
50:48Today, because
50:49of the
50:49technology,
50:50students are
50:50able to
50:51view their
50:51mark sheets.
50:52They are
50:53able to
50:53even expose
50:54the whole
50:55system because
50:55of this
50:56transparency.
50:57Yes, no
50:58doubt the
50:58system has
50:59failed.
50:59Implementation
51:00has failed,
51:00no doubt.
51:01As far as
51:02the online
51:04marking
51:05technology is
51:06concerned,
51:07this OSM,
51:07I support
51:08this
51:10technology.
51:10But at
51:12the same
51:12time, it
51:12should be
51:13transparent and
51:14the
51:14implementation
51:14should be
51:15proper.
51:16We have
51:16failed because
51:17of the
51:17lack of
51:18implementation.
51:19The teachers
51:20were not
51:20trained properly.
51:21Yes, you
51:22could have
51:22done it
51:22with six
51:24standard
51:24students.
51:25Then later
51:26on with
51:2610th and
51:2612th, you
51:27should have
51:27experimented.
51:28Definitely,
51:29now the
51:30technology, all
51:31the exams
51:32are happening
51:32on online
51:33mode.
51:34It is also
51:35now going to
51:35happen in
51:36future, in
51:36online mode.
51:37CUET is
51:38happening in
51:39online mode.
51:40So, definitely
51:40JE is
51:41happening in
51:42online mode.
51:43All the
51:43evaluation is
51:44happening in
51:44online only.
51:46So, as far
51:47as the
51:47online evaluation
51:49is concerned,
51:50this will
51:51definitely help
51:51students.
51:52No doubt,
51:53we have
51:54failed.
51:54The
51:55implementation
51:55is wrong.
51:56Questions need
51:57to be raised
51:57about the
51:57firm that
51:58was given
51:58a particular
51:59contract.
51:59The CBFC
52:00is silent,
52:01needs to be
52:01transparent.
52:02I know
52:02all three
52:03of you have
52:04been shaking
52:05your heads
52:05and nodding
52:06in certain
52:06parts of
52:07the conversation
52:07when the
52:07other one
52:08is speaking
52:08wanting to
52:09come in.
52:09I apologise.
52:10That's all
52:10the time
52:11that I have
52:11right now.
52:12But we
52:12will bring
52:12you back
52:13in because
52:13it's a
52:13conversation
52:14we're going
52:14to have
52:14daily till
52:15the time
52:15we find
52:16fine solutions.
52:17And I
52:17really hope
52:17the spotlight
52:18now turns
52:19to the
52:20CBSC.
52:21The CBSC
52:23now has
52:23tough questions
52:24on its own
52:25to answer.
52:26Will the
52:26CBSC come
52:27clean?
52:27Because it
52:28needs to.
52:29For the
52:29trust that
52:30people have
52:30instilled and
52:31faith people
52:32have instilled
52:32in that
52:33institution.
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