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00:00Yesterday, and this is what's the most damning thing, this is a Hall of Famer saying this stuff,
00:04here is Charles Barkley. Yesterday, this is halftime inside the NBA,
00:11yesterday's horrific game against the New York Knicks.
00:14Starting tonight, Chuck has requested special time to begin the halftime.
00:19Special time?
00:20Yeah, kids at home, if you want to see what the world quit.
00:25Aw, come on Chuck.
00:26You should give up. The verb without his calvary use.
00:30Aw, come on. This is what you see.
00:33You think they quit or the Knicks are just that good right now?
00:35No, they were down 29, Kenny.
00:38Kenny, look, this is just effort here. Come on, man. This is just effort.
00:42Audio courtesy ESPN.
00:45Yeah, some people took it the wrong way.
00:47Like, I want to know why there was no faith this year, and I'm figuring out the why.
00:52You definitely don't need to figure out why people are upset when you seem to want it more than the
00:58players do,
00:58and Charles Barkley's making funny on national television at halftime, no less.
01:03Did the fans want it more than the players did?
01:05It seemed like the fans wanted the season over a month ago.
01:07No, I disagree.
01:09The ones that are ripping into us on social media, I told you so.
01:15I knew this team wouldn't do it, and I'm like, all right.
01:18Well, I definitely think there's some weirdos on the internet taking some sort of a victory lap
01:22over them not winning a game in the Eastern Conference Finals.
01:25I was excited to make a deeper playoff run, but that excitement was not matched by –
01:30I don't think it was a minority.
01:32I think there were a bunch of fans who – they just hated this team.
01:35They just absolutely hated this team, and then trading for Harden made them hate it even that much more.
01:41I don't think they hate them.
01:44I don't think they're excited about them.
01:46I don't think that they're unlikable.
01:48I think that they're a likable group.
01:50I just don't think that they feel that they're going to get anywhere where they need to go.
01:54We've seen them win a championship before.
01:56Everything else, when you've seen them win a championship before and recently –
02:00I mean, it's been 10 years, but that's recent in a human life.
02:04When you've seen that, that's the end-all, be-all.
02:07And I don't think any Cavs fan –
02:10So only if we have like the first or second best odds at a championship,
02:14the fans aren't going to buy into a team now?
02:16No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
02:17This is just a basketball thing.
02:18Well, Anthony, hold on.
02:19Has there ever been a bunch of baseball and football teams in this town
02:21that I thought had zero shot to win a championship?
02:24Yet, I was excited about their playoff run.
02:26Yeah, this isn't their first trip to the playoffs.
02:28You know, they've gone to the playoffs about, what, five straight years now?
02:30Has this been year five that we've gone –
02:32We count the play-in.
02:33Including the play-in.
02:34So this is our fifth trip into this thing here.
02:37It's not like it's just year one.
02:39If they were year one and we were already getting this type of response,
02:42it wasn't like this three years ago.
02:44It wasn't like this getting ready for the Knicks series in 2023.
02:47There was like, well, we might not come out – it might not come out our way.
02:50But it wasn't like this getting ready for the Knicks series in 2023.
02:53It really wasn't even like this after – to me,
02:55it wasn't like this after the Celtics series in 2024.
02:59This has been – every year there's frustration.
03:02And I think that's a natural thing.
03:04And I think that happens in every sport.
03:05I think Bills fans are cynical of the Bills.
03:08I think that happens in every sport.
03:09Did that happen with the Guardians?
03:11Did it?
03:12I think there's plenty of fans –
03:14They've been in the playoffs seven of the last ten years.
03:15I think there's plenty of fans out there that they just feel that it's just fine for the –
03:21I don't feel this way, so it's hard to have this argument with me.
03:24I think there's plenty of fans out there who just feel like they don't take the Guardians seriously.
03:28And you just haven't noticed because it's not your passion.
03:31Basketball is your passion.
03:32The Cavs are your passion.
03:33So it's fine.
03:33Two of the sports in this town, you're basically saying the fans feel that way,
03:38but then how do they feel about the football team?
03:40Oh, they like the football team just to show a sign of life.
03:43We've got to crawl before we walk.
03:44Again, if the Cavs were just in their first trip to the playoffs,
03:48you didn't get this reaction their first trip to the playoffs.
03:51We were happy to be there.
03:52If the Browns go to the playoffs, we'll be happy to be there,
03:55but you will get to a point where it's like, all right, you've got to give us more.
03:59You can't just keep getting to this level.
04:02And I think a lot of Cavs fans feel this is as good as it gets,
04:05and I think this is as good as it gets.
04:06So if this is as good as it gets, they're going to wash their hands of the thing.
04:10Wait, there's no way for the team to improve?
04:12Do we believe to get to where we need to go, which is an NBA championship?
04:15So like trading for Giannis, that doesn't make them better?
04:18It makes them better.
04:18It doesn't make them better than the San Antonio Spurs or Oklahoma City Thunder.
04:21Giannis is so much better right now than Evan Mobley.
04:24You didn't answer the question.
04:25Wait, because I'm not done with my thoughts.
04:26Okay.
04:26Giannis isn't so much better than Evan Mobley?
04:29Like, and all of a sudden, if Donovan Mitchell was like your number two?
04:32Giannis is a great player.
04:33Now, Giannis has been banged up here over the last few years.
04:35You know that.
04:36Now, I'm not going to sit here and say that Evan's better than Giannis.
04:38Giannis is a great player.
04:39Do you believe, is your thought over?
04:43Yeah.
04:43Okay, now let me ask you.
04:44Do you believe that Giannis, instead of Evan Mobley, gets this team over the Oklahoma City
04:49Thunder or the San Antonio Spurs?
04:51Oh, I'm not.
04:51They would not be the title favorites.
04:53There you go.
04:53But wait a second.
04:54Then you'll have the same reaction.
04:55None of the teams I've rooted for my whole life have been the title favorites.
04:58Like the LeBron.
04:59That's six years into it.
04:59The LeBron team was not a title favorite.
05:01That's six years into it.
05:02So, let me get this straight.
05:04Going forward as a Cleveland sports fan, my team has to be the title favorite to justify
05:08any moves that are made.
05:09No.
05:10But you have to.
05:11No.
05:12You have.
05:12Like, that's a ridiculous standard.
05:13No, that's not it.
05:14But you're not listening.
05:15That's what you said.
05:16You know, you know.
05:17You're choosing not to hear the other parts of it.
05:19That is exactly what can come.
05:19Run it back.
05:20No.
05:20That is exactly what it is.
05:21No, it's not.
05:21What did he just say?
05:22Did I or did I not say there's five years previous of.
05:25Don't make a Giannis deal.
05:26Did I or did I not say there were five years previous?
05:27I mean, you can start a fight with me all you want, but it's not going to work this time.
05:29I am starting a fight because I thought it was patently ridiculous.
05:31So, you're saying do not make a Giannis trade.
05:34I'm not saying that.
05:35Unless it puts us as the definite number one team.
05:37I'm not saying that.
05:38So, what are you saying, Ken?
05:39I never added.
05:40What are you saying?
05:41I know what you're doing.
05:42What do they do?
05:44I will speak very softly for you.
05:48Please.
05:48Because I think you're trying to get a straw man going.
05:50You're trying to use me.
05:51Make it make sense, Kenny.
05:52I've explained now for the fourth time that this is not.
05:55First time.
05:55I've almost explained.
05:56No.
05:56Well, I've explained almost as many times as they've been to the postseason over the
05:59last how many years?
06:00That when you make the postseason over and over again as the Cavs, it becomes old hat.
06:06And even if you were to get Giannis, which they would be a better team, I said that to
06:11you just moments ago.
06:12Again, you're choosing what you want to hear and what you don't want to hear in terms of
06:16just make up some freaking argument against me that if this team gets Giannis, they still
06:21won't be an NBA Finals favorite.
06:25That doesn't mean, though, that they still wouldn't be good.
06:28I'm just saying you're going to get more of the same.
06:30If it were their first time over, it's not going to be that.
06:31You don't think fans would be excited about Giannis?
06:33They'd be more excited at what they have, but it's not going to be what you're hoping
06:36it's going to be.
06:37So then there's nothing that will make the fans excited.
06:39In your eyes, no.
06:40I can't go trade for Luka.
06:41I can't go trade for Doncic.
06:43I can't go trade for SGA.
06:45So that's just where we're at because what spoiled, entitled fan base are we?
06:50It's not spoiled or entitled.
06:51We have to have LeBron James to feel good about our team.
06:54That is insane.
06:55And that means we truly were spoiled by the greatest to ever play the game.
06:58It's not entitled.
07:00I don't think it's spoiled.
07:01I think it's exactly what a lot of fan bases go through.
07:04If you had the player of the generation, so you could always kind of have faith that
07:09that player of the generation was going to give you a firm chance.
07:11But I think a lot of us were thinking in the back of our mind, wouldn't it be great to
07:15be able to beat the Knicks in the Eastern Conference Finals?
07:16But even in the back of our mind, we're sitting there thinking, oh my God, you see what's going
07:19on over in the Western Conference?
07:21I mean, this is the JV compared to what we're seeing over there.
07:23Now, maybe the Knicks will change that.
07:25But I think a lot of people are feeling that way.
07:26So listen, hey man, you can get mad at me and you can try to put my words and use
07:30my words
07:30against me all you want.
07:31I'm just telling you the simple facts of everything here.
07:34I'm genuinely asking what fans...
07:35No, you can genuinely ask me until I tell you what you want to hear so then you can use
07:39it against
07:39me for whatever reasoning you want to do because you're tired of getting
07:41beat up online because I see you keep checking your computer over there.
07:44You just...
07:44I've been looking straight at you, buddy.
07:46I am just wondering what the Cavs have to do to get fans excited.
07:50And you told me Giannis basically wouldn't.
07:52So then there's nothing.
07:53So I don't know what the team...
07:54Should they move?
07:55A Giannis trade...
07:56Should they go somewhere else?
07:56Should they move to Brook Park?
07:57Yeah.
07:57What should they do?
07:58Now you're just being stupid.
08:00Should they start their OTAs?
08:01Would that get fans excited?
08:02What does that got to do with the price of fish?
08:04What does the OTAs have to do?
08:05I just want to know what would make fans excited about basketball again because it truly does go to...
08:10It underscores that LeBron James really did spoil this town on a level that we're not going
08:15to recover from, apparently.
08:16Wait, you're trying to tell me great players don't spoil towns?
08:18Not to this level to where nothing's acceptable except being the favorite to win the championship?
08:22Yeah.
08:23That's an all-time spoiling.
08:25I mean, you've listened to WFN before.
08:27You've heard Yankees fans.
08:28I mean, they have a whole monument parked.
08:29All the greats have came before that.
08:31Yeah, I guess what they have is not going to be good enough to stand up for it.
08:34So once we saw the greatness...
08:35San Antonio was not the favorite to win the championship, but I think their fans were
08:37pretty excited about going through the run.
08:39Because they have a young player that could end up being the heir apparent to LeBron James.
08:42There's a difference.
08:43We do not have the player that could be the heir apparent to LeBron James.
08:45I mean, let's get our head out of our ass.
08:47Evan Mobley's not Wemby, but Evan Mobley has been really, really good.
08:50That's a young player.
08:51He's 23.
08:52Yeah, really, really good.
08:53He's 24.
08:54He's really, really good.
08:54He's five years in.
08:56I'm not saying he's not good.
08:57Nobody claimed he's not a good player, Tone.
09:00Don't say he's not good.
09:01He's not Wemby good.
09:02And if he were Wemby good, you would get a lot of different opinions about this that
09:05would help support your argument.
09:07The portrait that is being painted here is that there's no redeeming quality to this Cavs
09:11team.
09:11And I'm like, man, what a different standard.
09:14No.
09:14This is the redeeming quality.
09:16It's just not enough.
09:16Because they've seen greatness.
09:17Again, when you have...
09:19So LeBron spoiled us.
09:20You agree.
09:20I'll say it three times over.
09:22You agree.
09:22But I don't think it's any different than what I just said about Yankee fans.
09:26I don't think there will be any difference in someday the future of the Golden State Warriors
09:30and the near future.
09:31I think that a lot of fan bases go through that.
09:33Once you've seen greatness and it's that recent, you're going to compare it to the greatness.
09:37And they've seen greatness.
09:39And listen, that's fine.
09:41And here we are telling you that the best chance you have is to maybe get to the finals if
09:44you
09:45trade away a young player that guys like me were calling the unicorn.
09:48So you can blame it on me too if you want.
09:50The crazy thing to me about this is that this is a totally different team than those LeBron
09:53teams.
09:54They built a new team.
09:55They've made trades.
09:57They have done what they can to get better.
09:59They got past the second round hump.
10:02And now the goalposts have been immediately moved.
10:04Now it's, well, they didn't get to the NBA finals.
10:06And that to me, I will never understand.
10:08It's America, brother.
10:08I will never understand that.
10:10Like if it's only win a championship or nothing else matters, then yeah, you're going to be
10:14miserable.
10:14And Cleveland sports fans, they probably are more miserable than most of them.
10:18Yeah.
10:18But there's context to a lot of things.
10:19Had they gone seven games with the Knicks in the Eastern Conference finals or even six
10:23games?
10:23I think you can make this argument.
10:24They gave up an historic lead and then they went out and they got absolutely smashed,
10:28including a 37 point loss to close out the year.
10:31Including a 37 point loss to close out the year.
10:33And Charles Barkley's calling them quitters on national television.
10:36They did quit.
10:36Yeah, it's not going to sit well with them.
10:38They did quit.
10:38And they say ridiculous things in the public.
10:40And I think he'll get fired.
10:42And I think they will try to improve the basketball team.
10:44I just don't like being told that they have to trade for a top three guy or nobody will
10:48care.
10:49That's a weird standard, Cleveland.
10:51That'd be a better sports city than that, Cleveland.
10:53And that's bizarre.
10:53Why are you ripping the Cavs fans?
10:56Do you rip Yankees fans for the same principle?
10:58I'll rip all the fans.
10:59I don't care.
11:00I just want to make sure because I just gave you the answers.
11:02We've had every sport get taken over now by the other team's fan base.
11:05Yeah.
11:05At some point, the best damn Cleveland sports city of all time.
11:08It's starting not to look like that.
11:10It really is.
11:10And based on what I'm hearing today, that reaching the final four of your team.
11:14It's the Cavs fans fault they lost by 37.
11:17No, nothing to do with it.
11:18But I'm saying.
11:18Sounds like you're blaming the fans for them losing by 37.
11:20We get our city taken over in Game 7 of the World Series.
11:23We get our city taken over.
11:24Every Browns game's a takeover.
11:26Like, what happened to this city?
11:27I don't know.
11:28It used to be a different city.
11:29Things have changed since I was young.
11:30I didn't realize it was Guardians.
11:31Excuse me.
11:32Back then, Indians fans for losing Game 7.
11:33It's amazing.
11:34I didn't know it was their fault.
11:35I didn't realize.
11:36I didn't realize the Derry brothers played instead of Francisco Lindor.
11:39I told one thing, and I see something very different.
11:42That's surprising.
11:42Tone is beside himself.
11:45I just think you're making the wrong move here.
11:49It seems like you're blaming fans for being mad that they lost by 37 last night.
11:54It's the way it comes off to me.
11:55Well, when you put it like that.
11:56It's how it comes off to me.
11:57Like, you're going after fans like, Tone, they lost by 37.
12:00To me, today's not the day to do it.
12:02But you know what?
12:03You've often gone against my advice in the past, and you will go against my advice in the future.
12:07If this is how you feel, who am I?
12:09That's the cherry on top of the sundae that is blowing a 22-point lead, and then the coach
12:14coming out and saying, well, really, it's 2-1 in the series with the analytics, and then
12:19not trying in Game 4 and losing by 37.
12:21Like, travel ball baseball coaches in 9U won't even say that.
12:26It was patently stupid.
12:29But, you know, I don't think he's our coach anymore.
12:30I think he's going to lose his job.
12:32I said today by noon.
12:33You can be mad at fans this morning because you agree with that.
12:37By the way, I'm not mad at all the fans.
12:40Sounds like you're mad at fans.
12:41No, I can't.
12:42If I had a...
12:43You're mad we don't have a Chalamet in town to out-buy everyone else with the tickets
12:47or a Fat Joe or a Spike Lee?
12:49Well, there are plenty of Fat Joes that are listening to the station in Cleveland.
12:52There's Fat Joe in Parma, Fat Joe in Middleburg Heights, Fat Joe in Painesville.
12:56There's plenty of fat people that are named Joe and rooting for the cast.
13:01No, make it...
13:02No, let him make the fat jokes at me.
13:04Don't make the fat jokes.
13:05He's a veteran.
13:05There is a difference.
13:07Like, I can't...
13:07I don't have a...
13:08I don't have the phone book in front of me to say, you're a good fan, you're a bad fan.
13:12I have been dressed down...
13:13Sounds like you are.
13:13Sounds like you're Santa Claus at Cleveland Sports.
13:15I've been dressed down by so many fans that I just don't really think are Cavs fans, right?
13:21They kind of parachute in for the playoffs.
13:25They don't really know.
13:27They don't really pay attention.
13:28They kind of think all the stuff the Cavs do is corny.
13:30Well, they're not on your level of fandom, but just because they don't pay attention
13:33to as much Cavs as you do doesn't make them not Cavs fans.
13:36No, I think what I'm...
13:37Well, there's different levels, though, right?
13:39There's casual fans and there's diehards.
13:40I'm not as big of a Cavs fan as you, Anthony, but I'm a Cavs fan.
13:43But wait, we can't act like there isn't a difference between the...
13:48Like, the fans that were on the buses that went to Detroit...
13:50Right.
13:51Winning Game 7 in Detroit, that felt like their Super Bowl.
13:55But if you weren't in that, if you just kind of came in during the playoffs, like, I think
14:00there's a difference.
14:01I don't even know how you get on that bus to go to Detroit in Game 7, so that makes
14:03me
14:04less of a Cavs fan than them.
14:05Oh, I do think there's...
14:07I'm a little surprised, though.
14:09Like, you don't think there are levels?
14:10Like, I'm not as big a baseball fan as Todd Derry.
14:13I can Google search, how do you get on the bus?
14:15I have no clue how they got it.
14:17It's because they have season tickets because they can afford to do it and I can't?
14:20The fans that are telling...
14:22That makes them a better Cavs fan?
14:23Here are the fans that I do think are fans I don't really want to...
14:27Now you're putting us in classism.
14:28That's wrong.
14:29Classism.
14:29I think it's reality.
14:30I agree with Owen.
14:31Wait, am I in the same baseball category as Todd Derry?
14:34Like, we're different fans.
14:35Like, they're different fans of every sport.
14:37I don't...
14:38Well, you probably go to more...
14:39I don't know.
14:39Maybe you don't now.
14:41He doesn't live here.
14:43I'm sorry, Matt doesn't live here.
14:44Todd, well, yeah.
14:45I don't know.
14:46I think every...
14:47You're probably not in the same level.
14:47I think every team...
14:48Either way, either way.
14:49I do think if you've been sitting here telling me Final Four is not good.
14:55That's, like, embarrassing to get to the Final Four but not really have a chance to win the championship.
15:01Like, I'll just disagree with you.
15:03I think it's hard.
15:03Like, somebody said on social media a few minutes ago.
15:07They said, well, the Cavs, yeah, they won two series.
15:11But then when they played a real team.
15:12Then I asked, well, how many real teams are there?
15:14Hold on.
15:15Then I asked how many real teams there were.
15:16And they said three or four.
15:17And I'm like, so this is really hard.
15:18This is not easy.
15:20Like, you don't...
15:20Again, LeBron made it easy.
15:22It'll never be easy again.
15:24That's it.
15:24The Knicks!
15:25The Knicks were down two games to one.
15:28Their fan base wanted Mike Brown fired.
15:30And over the last year, they wanted Carl Anthony Towns traded.
15:33They thought the Ananobi deal was a totally botched...
15:37And their team didn't quit.
15:38Right.
15:39And how do they feel today?
15:40But it shows you how hard this is.
15:41And how things can change.
15:43And if you're telling me that trading for Giannis or making a big pivot in the offseason to get better,
15:50fans are just going to be nonplussed.
15:51Then I don't know how to talk to those fans.
15:53No, no.
15:53I don't know what to say to those fans.
15:54Well...
15:55We are not ever going to enjoy the same things in life.
15:57To that group, it's fine.
15:58But I think that...
16:01I mean, you make the perfect argument, for me, when you bring up Knicks fans.
16:05Like, I'm sure there's a lot of Knicks fans who just go,
16:07Yeah, I said what I said.
16:08And I hold them to a high standard.
16:09And that's it.
16:10And I think a lot of Cavs fans...
16:11I think a lot of hardcore Cavs fans, guys that you know, who know ball,
16:15are sitting there going,
16:16Yeah, I hold them to a higher standard.
16:18I've seen greatness with this team.
16:19And I understand that none of these players are LeBron James.
16:21But they could certainly go out there.
16:22And I just think that the day after losing by 37 to close out a series in a suite,
16:27maybe not the best thing to call out all the fans.
16:30Holding them to a higher standard.
16:32Like, I'm going to wave the magic wand.
16:33Be better.
16:33I want my team to be better.
16:34No, they have to now make moves to get better.
16:36That is likely what is going to have to happen.
16:38But...
16:39And what I'm saying is...
16:39They're almost out of moves.
16:40And I have to get...
16:41They're not.
16:41I'm telling you, they are not out of moves.
16:43Okay, but you have to get Giannis to agree to him.
16:44We disagree on this.
16:44And none of us believe that Giannis really wants to be here.
16:46I don't know that.
16:47Do you believe that Giannis wants to be here?
16:48I don't know.
16:48Do you think that Giannis wants to be here?
16:49Do I think he wants to be on a much better team than the Milwaukee Bucks?
16:51Do you think that Giannis wants to be?
16:53Yes, I do.
16:53Yes, I do.
16:53And there's other opportunities.
16:54Yes, I think he would rather be...
16:55I think he would rather be...
16:56You know damn well there's other opportunities.
16:58I think he would rather be in Cleveland than Milwaukee.
17:00Do you think he'd rather...
17:01Or they won 32 games last year.
17:02Do you think he'd rather be in Cleveland?
17:03Or do you think that he would get another opportunity in a bigger city,
17:05in a bigger market of what he wants?
17:07Does he have a better chance to win a title?
17:08Okay.
17:08I'm just asking.
17:09I'm asking you.
17:10Does he?
17:10I don't know if he has a better chance to win a title.
17:12Name me the team.
17:12But when I was reading throughout this entire process before
17:16that he wanted to be with the New York Knicks,
17:17well, I can't put the Knicks out there anymore.
17:19So it sounds like you just said something.
17:19He had nothing to back it up.
17:20I can't put the Knicks out there anymore.
17:21So the only place he could possibly be traded
17:24to the Cleveland Cavaliers,
17:25the only place he could be traded is the Cleveland Cavaliers.
17:27No, I didn't say that.
17:28Okay.
17:28So what are you trying to say?
17:30I said I think he'd be much happier in Cleveland than Milwaukee.
17:32All right.
17:32Then what do you do if he says no?
17:34Then what are you going to do?
17:34I think they should fold the franchise and move
17:36because fans will be nonplussed according to Ken Card.
17:37That's one way we go.
17:38Ken said there's nothing they can do.
17:41It's typical.
17:41That's not going to get fans excited.
17:43It's like I'm talking to Deb Carman all over again.
17:44So because fans are not going to be excited, we should just give up,
17:46sell the team, move them to Seattle.
17:48The Cavs lost by 37 and dear mother has returned.
17:51Let's get behind the WNBA team.
17:53If there's one little disagreement,
17:54well, let's just fold in everything and burn the house down.
17:57That's kind of what it sounded like.
17:58That's what you've said.
17:59Oh, my God.
18:00You've said the Cavs can't get better and even trying to get better.
18:03I didn't know what to say to fold the franchise.
18:04Here's what Ken has said.
18:04I didn't know what to say to fold the franchise.
18:06Okay, you didn't say that.
18:07Yeah, let's go through what Ken has said.
18:09Ken has said there's nothing the Cavs can do to get better.
18:11They're out of moves.
18:12No, they would be better.
18:13I'm going over what you've said.
18:14They would be better.
18:15And if they tried to get Giannis, fans would be nonplussed.
18:17No, I said you're not going to get the reaction.
18:21You guys can see it on YouTube or on Odyssey.
18:23You can't because you'll understand where I'm coming from where I said
18:25you're not going to.
18:25Literally, these are things you've said today.
18:27I said you are not.
18:28No, that's not literally what I said.
18:29I said you're not going to get the reaction you want.
18:32Second, you can't tell me Giannis would sign to a trade here
18:35that he would agree to it.
18:36You've never said it.
18:37You don't even believe it in your heart.
18:39Don't lie to me and lie to yourself and lie to all the listeners.
18:41You don't believe that Giannis would accept the trade here.
18:43Yes, I do.
18:44You believe that.
18:44Yes, I do.
18:45You really believe it.
18:45Yes, I do.
18:46Then why didn't you say it 40 minutes ago?
18:47Yes, I'm telling you.
18:48I've told you.
18:49I've been talking about Giannis for two years.
18:51This is not some newfangled thing.
18:53Have you been listening to me for two years?
18:55I've always mentioned Giannis.
18:56I try not to, to be honest.
18:57Listen, guys, there's a lot of videos of me talking about Giannis.
19:00This isn't some new thing I invented.
19:01Why didn't you say that he would accept the trade two years ago?
19:03I wasn't waiting for them to get embarrassed in the Easter Conference Finals to finally
19:08pounce on this statement for the first time in my history.
19:11There's a pretty well-documented line of me tweeting about it and saying it on the radio.
19:18I hate that we have to do a commercial break here.
19:20All right, I'm going to get to all you guys.
19:22Well, you can go for one, two, three, four minutes.
19:23We're also giving, okay, fine.
19:252-1-6-4-7-4-0-0-92.
19:27Jack and Lorraine, you're first up in the fan.
19:29Go.
19:30Okay, here's my analogy as quick as I can do it, guys.
19:33We've had the argument about making fun of Steeler fans for being upset for them being in the playoffs every
19:39year and wanting to fire Tomlin.
19:41We have said here on this radio station that we would love to be in the situation that the Steelers
19:47are in compared to the situation that the Browns are in.
19:50Well, this is the exact situation that the Cavaliers are in.
19:54And to show no enthusiasm for them because they've been there for the last six years is ridiculous.
20:02Same thing with the Indians, to show no enthusiasm for the Guardians, to show no enthusiasm there is ridiculous.
20:10To have teams that are consistently in the playoffs and be upset at them, yes, that's normal, but it makes
20:19zero sense.
20:20So I agree with Tony.
20:23I think it makes total sense for a guy who's 30-something years old who's seen a team do something
20:27incredible before.
20:28I'm sorry.
20:29Jack, thank you for the call.
20:29It's not a fair standard to set.
20:32I will try to meet you as halfway as possible.
20:35It is unfair, totally unfair to the human element.
20:38But that's the reality of it.
20:40When you've seen teams accomplish greatness for a long time, when you've seen a team with the greatest player accomplish
20:46the ultimate prize,
20:47if you can't, if in the same generation you cannot approach that again,
20:55then, yeah, there's going to be a massive amount of fans out there who say you're wasting my time.
21:01And that's not fair, Anthony.
21:02I'm just giving you reality here, bud.
21:04Don't be chopping my head off when I'm just telling you the truth.
21:07I have no problem with fans.
21:09Sounds like you do have a problem with the truth.
21:10I have no problem with them wanting the team to be better.
21:13And what transpired over the last week, I mean, it was humiliating.
21:17It was absolutely humiliating.
21:18It's why I'm already on.
21:19Mentally, I'm already on to the next thing.
21:21Because what am I going to do?
21:22Sit and dwell on that embarrassment?
21:24Like, that was so bad that I don't see how they could come back with Kenny Atkinson.
21:29And I don't see how they could come back with that same roster.
21:31I have no idea how.
21:33That's why, mentally, I am so checked out on this iteration,
21:36even after they won two playoff series.
21:38There, you want it?
21:39There's my honesty.
21:40Guardians, wow, that's strong.
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