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00:00It was a dream to have this round cedar hot tub.
00:04Yes.
00:04Now on Tribunal Justice.
00:07You say it wasn't holding water.
00:09It's still leaking.
00:10And you're doing absolutely nothing to help her.
00:13I did take a while to do it,
00:15but it doesn't mean that I'm in fault of anything.
00:17Are you sure about that?
00:42Today's case was filed in Los Angeles, California.
00:46Your Honor, this is case number 3047, King v. Ariana.
00:52All parties have been sworn in.
00:53You may be seated.
00:55Thank you, Cassandra.
00:56Ms. King, you're suing the defendant for breach of contract
00:58and breach of warranty
01:00after the hot tub that you paid the defendant to install
01:03never functioned as promised.
01:05You paid the defendant $14,500
01:08and you're suing for the maximum allowed
01:10in this jurisdiction of $10,000.
01:13Correct.
01:14And Mr. Ariana?
01:15Yes.
01:16You deny owing the plaintiff anything.
01:18You argued that you completed the job
01:21and when issues came up afterwards,
01:23you made the necessary repairs.
01:24Correct.
01:25Ms. King, why don't you tell us,
01:26how did you hear about the defendant
01:28and what made you want to hire him?
01:30I found him on Instagram
01:32and his product looked nice.
01:35It looked like a cedar wooden hot tub,
01:37which is what I was looking for.
01:39I moved forward with calling him
01:40and he came the next day.
01:42Let's take a look at this hot tub
01:43that finally got installed on July 27, 2023.
01:47Let's look at 01.
01:48And we have what looks like
01:50a beautiful cedar six-foot spa, correct?
01:52Correct.
01:52Yes.
01:53So you saved up in order to purchase this hot tub?
01:55A long time, yeah.
01:56And how long have you wanted it?
01:5815 years.
01:59All right.
02:00Can you tell us
02:01what the terms of that contract were?
02:03That he would be completed
02:05with install on the contract in two months.
02:08Was that important to you?
02:09It was important
02:10that it was completed by two months.
02:11Sir, is that correct?
02:12Yes.
02:13The contract was signed May 11, 2023.
02:16Correct.
02:17Scope of work
02:17was a six-foot wooden hot tub,
02:20110-volt electric heater,
02:22LED top slide.
02:23What's that, sir?
02:24It's controls to activate jets.
02:26Okay.
02:27A pump, vinyl cover,
02:29a two-year warranty,
02:30and the price was $14,500.
02:33Correct.
02:33We're all on the same page?
02:34Good, I can put that away.
02:36How much was the deposit
02:38and did you pay it?
02:39I paid $7,000,
02:41$3,500 installments through Zelle.
02:44And do you remember
02:45who the payment was made to?
02:46It was made to Oriana.
02:48Is that correct, sir?
02:49Yes, sir.
02:50Okay.
02:50Now, Ms. King,
02:51there came a time
02:52that you got the sense
02:53things were no longer
02:55on the up and up
02:56and you became suspicious.
02:57Yeah, he said
02:58that he would be
02:59installing it in July
03:01and he started asking me,
03:04saying that he needed
03:05more money
03:05for his grandparents' land.
03:07Do you recall that, sir?
03:08Yes, sir.
03:09Yeah, I did get an opportunity
03:11to purchase
03:12my grandfather's land
03:14in El Salvador.
03:15But, yeah,
03:16it was a big mistake
03:17to ask for money
03:18that was supposed
03:19to go to the hot tub.
03:20And he had already
03:20received $7,000
03:22at that point.
03:22Right.
03:23Big mistake, right?
03:24Big mistake, yes, sir.
03:24Got it.
03:25Now, July 16th,
03:26there was a text message
03:27in which you asked her
03:28to send more money.
03:30Tell me about that.
03:31So, with the first initial deposit
03:33that Ms. King gave to me,
03:35I purchased the wood
03:36that I needed to start milling,
03:38but I hadn't purchased
03:41the control box,
03:43which was basically,
03:44essentially,
03:45the brain of the hot tub,
03:46which was going
03:47to her final payment
03:48either way.
03:49So, I didn't see it
03:50as a big deal,
03:51but, yeah,
03:52she was suspicious
03:53about giving money
03:55from here on out.
03:56And on July 16th,
03:57at least according
03:58to the text,
03:58correct me if I'm wrong,
03:59your response was
04:00to pick up what equipment
04:01I'd prefer to call your vendor
04:03and pay them directly.
04:05Do you recall
04:06what you responded to, sir?
04:07Yeah, that my vendor
04:08didn't supply to the public.
04:10Yeah, and, of course,
04:11you had an issue
04:11with that as well, correct?
04:13Correct.
04:13And you said,
04:14none of my customers
04:15have had a problem before.
04:17Yes, sir.
04:17I like to develop
04:18a friendship with them,
04:19but in this case,
04:20it was a little hard
04:21for me to make a friendship
04:23with Miss King
04:24after, you know,
04:26growing some suspicion
04:27about my grandfather's land.
04:28And you know
04:29that the plaintiff
04:29had done some research
04:30and some background.
04:31You suspected shady stuff,
04:33but you're still okay
04:34with him doing the work
04:34because you really
04:35want that hot tub.
04:36I do.
04:36Yeah.
04:37And so let's talk
04:38about July 27, 2023 now.
04:41So this is about 10 days
04:42past the completion date.
04:45Sir, you delivered
04:46and installed the hot tub
04:47and plaintiff paid
04:48the remaining balance.
04:49Yes, sir.
04:49Is that correct?
04:50$3,500?
04:51Two times.
04:52Correct.
04:52And they were both made payable
04:54to the defendant,
04:54Bernardo Oriana.
04:56Yes, sir.
04:56Why weren't these payments
04:57made to your business?
04:59So that's actually
05:01a great question.
05:02I like to ask great questions.
05:04So the reason why
05:06I'm fairly new
05:07in owning and organizing
05:09and running a business.
05:11So even though
05:12they were under my name,
05:13they were going
05:13under the business bank account.
05:15Okay.
05:15There came a time
05:16on July 31st
05:17that you paid
05:18some additional money.
05:19Is that correct?
05:19What was that for?
05:22I believe 220.
05:25220 volts?
05:26For installing the electric.
05:28Is that correct, sir?
05:29Yes, sir.
05:30She was in the market
05:31looking for an electrician.
05:33I let her know
05:33that I'm not licensed
05:35to be an electrician.
05:36That's it.
05:37Wait, wait.
05:38You don't recall him saying that?
05:39He did not tell me
05:40that he's not licensed.
05:41It's very dangerous.
05:42Why?
05:43Because you would put
05:43electrical,
05:44a 220 volt electrical system
05:46right next to a
05:47six foot hot tub?
05:49Correct.
05:49Yeah.
05:50That kind of makes sense,
05:51doesn't it?
05:54Coming up
05:54on Tribunal Justice.
05:56If I talk to contractors
05:57the way you talk to him,
05:59I'd hardly be able
06:00to get anybody
06:00to come do work
06:01at my house.
06:06Catherine King
06:07is suing hot tub installer
06:09Bernardo Oriana
06:10for $10,000
06:11after he built
06:12a cedar hot tub
06:13so defective
06:14it won't hold water.
06:16But Bernardo says
06:17all wooden tubs leak
06:18and he did free repairs
06:20for her,
06:20so he owes nothing.
06:22You made a specific point
06:24in your answer
06:24to this case
06:25to indicate to us
06:26that you had told her
06:27that you were not
06:28a licensed electrician
06:30or a licensed contractor,
06:31correct?
06:32Correct.
06:33And would it be fair
06:33to say that there is
06:34not one text message
06:35that you have in front
06:36of you to her
06:37in which that fact
06:39was stated?
06:40That is true.
06:41Okay.
06:41Judge Acker.
06:42Thank you, Judge.
06:43You know,
06:43I'll be very candid.
06:45I know this was
06:45an important project
06:46to you
06:47and you saved for it.
06:49But I found
06:50some of your messages
06:51really brusque,
06:53almost rude.
06:54If I talked to contractors
06:56the way you talked to him,
06:57I'd hardly be able
06:58to get anybody
06:59to come do work
06:59in my house.
07:00So he comes back,
07:02he gets it installed.
07:04Let's just say
07:04it's two weeks later.
07:05You feel like
07:06you should have been
07:07threatening him
07:08with breach?
07:09I think at that point
07:10after asking for money
07:12so many times,
07:13I just didn't know.
07:14But she admits
07:15it was a mistake.
07:16I mean,
07:16that's foolish.
07:17She's not your friend.
07:18Definitely.
07:19She's a client.
07:19And so the hot tub
07:21is finally installed
07:22and then in August,
07:23you say
07:24it wasn't holding water.
07:25Yes.
07:26And when you advised him
07:27of that,
07:28what did he do?
07:28He reinstalled new
07:32rings around the hot tub.
07:33As per his warranty.
07:34So he took off
07:35those metal rings.
07:37He reinstalled them.
07:38It's still leaking.
07:39Yes.
07:39You know,
07:40why not just give her
07:41money back
07:41and be done with this?
07:42Yeah, so
07:43because I delivered
07:44the tub on a timely manner
07:45even though she was
07:46a little bit firm.
07:48I even offered her
07:49free maintenance
07:50which she made me
07:51put on the contract.
07:53She didn't spend
07:54all this money
07:54on this hot tub
07:55so you could show up
07:56every month
07:56to try to fix something
07:57broken.
07:58Right.
07:58So it's not that
07:59anything is broken.
08:00So that's where
08:01I think the miscommunication...
08:02You don't think anything
08:03is broken with those leaks?
08:04No.
08:04So the thing that happens
08:06with the wooden hot tubs
08:08that a lot of customers
08:09don't understand
08:10or I have to educate them
08:12on is that
08:12it is a swelling process
08:14and some of them
08:15don't stop leaking
08:16until years later.
08:18I was under the understanding
08:20that it would be
08:21three weeks
08:22so I gave him
08:23three months.
08:23When you say you were
08:24under the understanding,
08:25did he say it's going
08:27to take you three weeks?
08:28I never said three weeks.
08:29You're saying he used
08:30those words.
08:30It's going to only be
08:31three weeks?
08:32It doesn't always change
08:33so I knew three months
08:35was how long it took
08:37which is why I waited
08:38three months
08:39to start reaching out
08:41and saying it's still
08:42not holding water.
08:43Thank you very much, ma'am.
08:44Thank you, sir.
08:45Judge Domingo?
08:46Have you had a problem
08:47in the past
08:47with contractors
08:49promising and not performing?
08:50Yes, but not to this degree.
08:52This is not the worst degree,
08:53believe it or not,
08:54because like's been pointed out,
08:55he did finish the hot tub.
08:57Now you come into this
08:58with a little bit
08:59of, I think, unclean hands.
09:01I mean, I know
09:01you say he didn't tell you
09:03that he wasn't
09:04a licensed electrician,
09:05but you still went
09:06with Mr. Oriana.
09:08Now his price...
09:09This is like a year after.
09:11I know you had
09:12the hot tub for 21 months.
09:13You had it a long time.
09:15In fact, you were right
09:16at the point
09:17where it was the end
09:18of the warranty
09:18because he was giving you
09:20a two-year warranty.
09:21So that was also
09:22part of my concern
09:23is that we were going
09:23to get to the end
09:24of the warranty
09:25and these issues
09:26were just going
09:27to keep going
09:27and then I had no coverage.
09:29But when his price
09:30was $1,600
09:31and another electrician's
09:34price is $4,000,
09:35why would he be
09:36charging you so little?
09:38I mean, listen,
09:39I see from you,
09:40you don't see the problem
09:41with not being licensed.
09:43You said,
09:43I told her I wasn't licensed.
09:45That's why I only
09:46charged to $1,600.
09:47Do you know why
09:48we want people licensed?
09:50Because there's training
09:52and background
09:53and work that they do
09:54so that we know
09:55that the person
09:56we're hiring
09:57one is accountable
09:58for what they're doing
09:59and has at least
10:00the knowledge
10:01that's necessary
10:02to do it.
10:03You know,
10:03I certainly wouldn't say
10:05let me pull out
10:06your wisdom tooth.
10:07You'd want to have
10:07somebody with a dental degree
10:09or a license.
10:10You just can't be doing
10:11work that you're
10:12not licensed to do.
10:14Definitely.
10:14Why does this tub leak?
10:16So that tub leaks
10:18because it's still swelling.
10:21It's still,
10:21I have tubs from different...
10:22When you say it's still swelling,
10:23is the water poured
10:24directly into the wood?
10:25Yes.
10:26So I'm in charge
10:27of containing the water
10:29inside two staves basically
10:30that go all the way around,
10:32which is not an easy task.
10:33Water always wants
10:34to find an exit
10:35and it's my job
10:36to keep it in.
10:37I have tubs
10:38from different companies
10:38that are five years old
10:40and they still drip and leak.
10:41How does the wood connect?
10:43Does it lock in?
10:44Yeah.
10:44So there is a groove
10:45that we do
10:46on the pieces of wood
10:47that we mill
10:49and then cedar
10:50naturally absorbs
10:52and swells
10:52and it seals
10:53on its own naturally.
10:54Okay.
10:55But we do hope...
10:56When he was putting it in,
10:57you knew what he was doing.
10:58I mean,
10:58you knew what you contracted for.
10:59Well, now I know
10:59a lot more about it.
11:00I didn't know
11:01these things before.
11:02Okay.
11:02But a groove is,
11:03it's like circular
11:05and it swells
11:06into the wood
11:07and it swells out.
11:09These are made,
11:10as you can see,
11:10just back to back.
11:11Like this?
11:11Back to back.
11:13Yes.
11:13Is there a way
11:14that knowing
11:15where they're coming from,
11:16you can kind of fill that
11:17with filler?
11:18Yeah, I offered her that
11:19and she refused it.
11:20She didn't want
11:21any silicone
11:21inside the tub.
11:22Why was that a problem
11:23for you to have the silicone?
11:25At least you could have
11:25made use out of it.
11:26Why?
11:28Coming up
11:29on Tribunal Justice.
11:30Would it be fair to say
11:31that one of the reasons
11:32why you haven't applied
11:33for your license
11:34is because you have
11:34reason to believe
11:35that you would not
11:36pass that background check?
11:37Definitely not.
11:44Catherine King says
11:45shoddy work
11:46by Bernardo Arianna
11:47turned her hot tub dreams
11:49into a leaky nightmare.
11:50She's suing for $10,000
11:52for improper installation
11:53and breach of contract.
11:55But Bernardo says
11:56he repaired everything
11:57that was wrong
11:58so his hands are clean.
12:00Is there a way
12:01that knowing
12:01where they're coming from,
12:02you can kind of fill that
12:04with filler?
12:05Yeah, I offered her that
12:06and she refused it.
12:07She didn't want
12:08any silicone inside the tub.
12:10Why was that a problem
12:11for you to have the silicone?
12:12At least you could have
12:12made use out of it.
12:13Why?
12:14I just paid top dollar
12:16for a particular
12:17kind of hot tub.
12:18But you didn't pay
12:19specifically for what
12:20you're saying you wanted
12:21which was this lock.
12:22You didn't say that.
12:23That's not specifically
12:24discussed in your contract,
12:26is it?
12:26No, I learned that
12:28after the fact.
12:29Yeah, so the bottom line
12:30is you might have gotten
12:32what you contracted for.
12:34Judge Levy?
12:35I just want to make sure
12:36that I get all of the issues
12:37because that breach
12:38of warranty case
12:39was important, right?
12:40So even August 22nd, 2023,
12:43you had sent a text
12:44to the defendant
12:45that you didn't provide
12:46a vinyl cover,
12:47you did not provide
12:48the LED top slide,
12:49and the tub,
12:50according to the plaintiff,
12:52has been continually leaking
12:54and the leaking
12:55is increasing.
12:56Did you tell her
12:57in any text message
12:58that this is going
12:59to leak forever?
13:01Not in text messages, no.
13:03No.
13:03No, I didn't.
13:04Okay.
13:05Like here,
13:05on this photograph here,
13:06like we've got stains
13:07all over it,
13:07the top, the bottom,
13:08and in her mind's eye,
13:10this is a breach of warranty.
13:11Do you agree
13:12that that's a breach of warranty?
13:13No.
13:14Under contract,
13:15I'm not obliged
13:15to go and do this,
13:17sand it and stain it
13:17every time it leaks,
13:18oil leaks.
13:19It was still leaking, though.
13:20And then she says,
13:21in addition,
13:21I paid the extra money
13:22for the electrical 220 service,
13:24and it takes four hours
13:25for the tub
13:26to get to full heat.
13:27And what you put in there,
13:28that wasn't the 220,
13:29that was the 110, right?
13:30So why not just put the 220 in
13:32like she paid for?
13:33It is a 220.
13:34So my control box
13:36that I get from my vendor
13:37is both hybrid 110 and 220.
13:40So then she is claiming
13:42that it's not heating properly,
13:44but I don't understand
13:45what properly is,
13:46what is properly.
13:48It's a good question.
13:49January 30th now of this year,
13:50the heater and the filter
13:51is not working.
13:53When are you actually
13:54going to come out
13:55and fix it?
13:56And you said,
13:57I've been having car troubles.
13:58I did.
13:59I think at this time,
14:01I'll admit I was a little tired
14:03of just kind of
14:04with the back and forth.
14:05I went over and above
14:06for Miss King after that.
14:07Okay, so March 6, 2024.
14:09She sends you a text.
14:11It's been since January 30th
14:13since the heater stopped working.
14:14Is that you making her a priority
14:16and giving her
14:17what she contracted with?
14:19So talking about the warranty,
14:21I did find out
14:22that it wasn't anything
14:23that I did.
14:24It was a malfunction
14:25from the control box itself
14:26and heater.
14:27So I did take care of it.
14:28And I did hold up
14:29my part of the warranty.
14:30And then it was fixed.
14:31I didn't hear from Miss King
14:32after that.
14:33And does it end there?
14:34Are all the problems
14:35fixed by March 29th?
14:36Problems with the tub?
14:38Yes.
14:38Yes.
14:39You sure about that?
14:40April 5, 2024.
14:42You send her a text.
14:43I have to replace the conduit
14:44that goes into the control box
14:46as it took in water.
14:47I'll have an electrician
14:49come out and see
14:49what's going on
14:50unless you already have one.
14:52Yes.
14:53And you remember
14:53what you told him?
14:54That he installed it.
14:55It's on him.
14:56Yeah, and you're doing
14:57absolutely nothing
14:57to help her.
14:59No, that's wrong
15:00because when I did go
15:01the control box
15:03was faulty.
15:04So I did take care
15:05of what I had to take care of.
15:07I got it.
15:07I did take a while
15:08to do it
15:09but it doesn't mean
15:10that I'm in fault
15:10of anything
15:11besides the obvious, right?
15:13No, I get it.
15:13I get it.
15:14This is how he makes his living.
15:15You know, despite the fact
15:16he's not a licensed electrician
15:17and by the way
15:18you know you got to be
15:19a licensed installer
15:20to install tubs too, right?
15:21Yeah.
15:22Mr. Oriana,
15:22you know that in order
15:23to get licensed
15:24in the state of California
15:25you got to fill out
15:26an application, right?
15:27They're going to do
15:27a criminal background check, right?
15:29Would it be fair to say
15:30that one of the reasons
15:31why you haven't applied
15:32for your license
15:32is because you have reason
15:33to believe that you would not
15:34pass that background check?
15:36Definitely not.
15:38I'm not even going to get into it.
15:40Your instincts
15:42right on the money.
15:44I have nothing further.
15:45I just want to close the loop
15:47on what happened
15:48after this last text exchange.
15:50April 19th,
15:51you say to him
15:52how did it go today?
15:53And then there's no response.
15:55How did it go
15:56after April 19th?
15:59Coming up
15:59on Tribunal Justice.
16:01You were saving your money
16:02because it was a dream
16:04to have this
16:04round cedar hot tub.
16:07Correct.
16:07And if he was correct
16:08that the cedars leak
16:10you would have always been
16:12in this position.
16:18Catherine King says
16:19her dream hot tub
16:21built by Bernardo Oriana
16:22doesn't get hot
16:23and doesn't hold water.
16:25She's suing for $10,000.
16:27But Bernardo says
16:28the job was finished
16:29and Catherine knows
16:30that all wooden tubs leak.
16:32So he's done all he can do.
16:34April 19th,
16:35you say to him
16:35how did it go today?
16:37And then there's no response.
16:38How did it go
16:39after April 19th?
16:41It's still leaking.
16:42The temperature is not
16:44at the correct temperature
16:46that it shows.
16:47And I was at the end
16:48of going through this.
16:49Yeah, you were.
16:50This was a long time.
16:51He doesn't need to be
16:51in your house every month.
16:53You just wanted a hot tub.
16:54I got you.
16:55I don't have anything else.
16:56I just have one question.
16:58You were saving your money
16:59because it was a dream
17:00to have this
17:01round cedar hot tub.
17:03Correct.
17:04Because what you said
17:05was if you knew
17:06it was going to leak
17:07you wouldn't do it.
17:08But the bottom line is
17:09that was your dream.
17:10You weren't going to go out
17:10and buy one of those
17:11plastic square ones.
17:13So on some level
17:14if this was your dream
17:15to have it exactly like that
17:17and if he was correct
17:18to any extent
17:19that the cedars leak
17:21you would have always been
17:22in this position.
17:23Yeah, absolutely.
17:25I was also imagining
17:26that I would be able
17:27to sit in it
17:28and it would hold
17:29enough water
17:29for me to be able
17:31to enjoy it.
17:31Thank you very much.
17:32We are going to retire
17:33to deliberate.
17:34Court is now in recess.
17:36Parties will be recalled.
17:40I read those text messages
17:42and it was clear to me
17:44that she knew
17:45and he was so slimy.
17:48His response is about
17:50taking money to buy land.
17:52I mean, you know who does that?
17:54Someone who's done it before.
17:56Someone who feels so confident
17:58in their abilities
17:58that he has no problem
18:00asking someone
18:01that he just took $14,500 from
18:03then asks for another $3,500
18:06not even just for the hot tub
18:08but so he can buy
18:09some plot of land
18:10in another country?
18:12That's what he does.
18:13That's what the scammers do.
18:15Scammers scam.
18:17So putting aside his background
18:18she's made out
18:19her breach of warranty case.
18:21You can't be expected
18:22no one to use that hot tub
18:24with 220 volt electricity
18:27which by the way
18:27is not permitted either
18:29with it leaking
18:30with problems with the heater
18:33and problems with the jets.
18:35This is a clear case
18:36in my humble opinion
18:38for a breach of warranty
18:39and she should get
18:39every penny back.
18:40We can't give her
18:41the $14,500 back.
18:42We're capped out at $10,000
18:43and that's what
18:44she's asking for.
18:45So that's one reason
18:46why I believe
18:47that she's entitled
18:48to that money.
18:48The other reason
18:49is the code to dissuade people
18:51from performing
18:52electrical work
18:53especially dangerous
18:54electrical work
18:55without a license.
18:56So the law says
18:57hey, if you do it
18:58you run the risk
18:59of having to give it all back.
19:00He just didn't think
19:02we knew that.
19:02He thought we were
19:03as gullible as
19:04some of his other clients
19:05not her.
19:06That's my position.
19:07I'm smiling
19:08because it is manifestly
19:10unreasonable
19:11to expect one of your clients
19:13to think that they should
19:14just rely on
19:15monthly service visits
19:16like in perpetuity.
19:18It's not a marriage.
19:20I completely agree with you.
19:21I think not only
19:22did she meet her burden
19:23I think that she exceeded
19:25her burden.
19:26I think unlike
19:26her hot tub
19:27her case was watertight.
19:30I am definitely
19:31stealing that.
19:32I am definitely
19:33stealing that.
19:34Oh my God.
19:36She could have swam
19:36on her property
19:38with all the water
19:39that was dripping
19:40out of there.
19:40I can't imagine
19:41that forever.
19:42I mean I don't know
19:42anything about this
19:43and I don't know
19:43whether he's being truthful
19:44but I can't imagine
19:45that forever
19:46you have to have
19:47a leak.
19:49But I don't think
19:51she would have
19:52gotten the tub
19:52even though
19:53she might have known
19:54that it would have leaked.
19:55I think she really
19:56wanted that kind of tub.
19:57I just think
19:58he was just too many
19:59problems with the electric
20:00coming back
20:01not coming back
20:02fixing
20:03wanting to buy land
20:04in the middle of everything.
20:05I mean
20:05it was really a bit much
20:07so I think she's entitled
20:08to what she's asked for.
20:14Court is back in session.
20:15Parties are reminded
20:16that you're still under oath.
20:17Ms. King
20:18you put on a good case.
20:21Judge Acker
20:21made it clear in the back
20:22that unlike the hot tub
20:25your case
20:26watertight.
20:29The reason why
20:30you are going to receive
20:31a judgment in your favor
20:33from the defendant
20:34number one
20:34it's because you have
20:36met and exceeded
20:37your burden of proof
20:38in the breach of warranty case.
20:40Number two
20:40the law is clear
20:42you're an unlicensed contractor
20:43you do so at your own risk.
20:45Any money you receive
20:46from a client
20:47for contracting work
20:49that requires a license
20:50when you don't have one
20:51you can claw it back
20:52and give it back
20:53to the homeowner.
20:54You operate at your own risk
20:55if you're an unlicensed contractor.
20:57Judgment in your favor
20:58for the amount you've requested
20:59$10,000.
21:01Have a nice day.
21:02This case has concluded
21:03all parties are excused.
21:08I respect your decision
21:10even though
21:11I was wrong.
21:12It's lots of memories
21:13of just a
21:14kind of terrible experience.
21:16I apologize.
21:17I'm very grateful
21:18that it's all over
21:20and I don't have to be
21:22in any more communication
21:23with him again.
21:24That's a good idea
21:25I'll keep it in mind.
21:25I don't know
21:26if I ever would not
21:28have again.
21:29Are you being sued?
21:31Let Tribunal Justice
21:32decide your case.
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