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Seth, Sean, Reggie and Lopez discuss the ITL question of the day: what's something you should have or were about to achieve that was robbed from you?
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00:00That was a hell of a game last night, the basketball game.
00:02Oh my gosh.
00:02I mean, it is just dominating every conversation.
00:06A little Olajuwon Robinson dynamic going on out there.
00:09Yeah, it sure was.
00:10That's good.
00:10So along those lines, what is the question of the day?
00:14It has nothing to do with that.
00:15Are you sure?
00:16I watched the beginning of a fearsome argument outside in the hallway.
00:19Oh, actually, he conceded at the end.
00:21You did?
00:22He conceded at the end.
00:23I have nothing to concede to him.
00:25Because he's right, unfortunately.
00:27Victory is mine.
00:28I don't enjoy admitting it, but he was right in the kind of circumstance.
00:32It's almost like he lived through it.
00:34Yeah, I hear you.
00:35I hear you.
00:35But I know you didn't see this, maybe Seth did, that North Carolina high schooler that
00:44is just scorching the internet right now for three days.
00:48They were going to win a state championship, four by four, last event of the meet.
00:53He raises his hands with all, like a palm, basically, a palm facing him.
00:57Just raises his hand as he crosses the finish line to no one, just celebrating.
01:00Yeah.
01:01They disqualified him for taunting, and they lost the state championship.
01:04They lost the state championship.
01:05Okay, well, this is the way I understood it, was that he was raising it as if he was
01:08looking at the people behind him in the rearview mirror.
01:10Maybe.
01:11I hadn't heard that one.
01:12I guess that was the interpretation I thought.
01:14That's the only acceptable...
01:16But literally just doing that.
01:17I don't think it's acceptable either way.
01:18Like, that's a state championship like this.
01:20Come on, man.
01:21Like, he wasn't arming anybody.
01:22Yeah.
01:23It definitely wasn't.
01:24If you have to have a discussion about whether it's taunting or not, I feel like you shouldn't...
01:28Yeah, it's not.
01:28Not in that moment.
01:30Not in that moment.
01:31I would like to go a step further.
01:32When it comes to foot races, taunt all you want.
01:36Yeah, what are we even doing here?
01:38Taunting.
01:38If I can taunt you because I whipped you that bad...
01:41Are you worried that track and field is going to become too popular of a television sport
01:46if you bring a little entertainment to it?
01:49Yeah, exactly.
01:49You know what?
01:50That's 2026, and if I know anything, it's people don't like showmanship.
01:55That's one thing people really hate.
01:56P.T. Barnum said that.
01:59It's a four-letter word.
02:00Showmanship.
02:01If your schedule allows it, we have some animals that you'd like maybe...
02:06Yeah, just be like, I like them, all right?
02:07I mean, it is just scorching the internet.
02:10Okay, I've got to go look at this when I go sit down and eat my omelet.
02:13But that leads to the question of the day.
02:14What is something you were robbed of?
02:16Okay.
02:16You were like, man, I should have had that.
02:18Okay, nothing athletic for me because I was not in a position to be robbed of anything athletically.
02:23Mine is academic, actually.
02:25I was...
02:26So in high school, junior and senior year, you can get voted into the National Honor Society, right?
02:32Every high school has a National Honor Society.
02:34And my grades were...
02:36And my test scores were more than good enough.
02:39But you also...
02:40There was a third component where the teachers voted on who was going to be put in.
02:45Yeah, yeah.
02:46And at that point, the particular teacher...
02:48Most of my teachers liked me, but the particular teachers that were on that board voting...
02:52I don't know.
02:53I guess I acted up in their class.
02:54I talked a lot.
02:55Me and my buddy, John, who...
02:57We actually ended up going to college together as well.
03:01Smarter than me.
03:01He's a high-powered lawyer now.
03:03One of the smartest people I know.
03:04Yeah, yeah.
03:05One of the smartest people I know.
03:07He...
03:08Neither he nor I got voted in.
03:10Because we were class clowns, too.
03:13You weren't nerdy enough.
03:14Yeah, yeah.
03:14I wasn't nerdy enough.
03:15Yeah.
03:15There's nothing nerds love more than when they have the opportunity to exclude people.
03:19Yes.
03:20We got our comeuppance.
03:21This is true.
03:22John and I did.
03:23I know there's a big man who's done cross-country...
03:25Who's done some distance running.
03:26I know.
03:27Those little wiry bastards love the rug in your face.
03:30How slow you are.
03:31And they raised their hand in victory.
03:33They did.
03:34They probably did that.
03:35Yeah.
03:35So, me and John, now, we both got...
03:37We got in our senior year.
03:38Yeah.
03:38But we didn't get it.
03:39We got robbed.
03:40That sucks.
03:40Yeah.
03:41Well, I mean...
03:42Although, you kind of earned a little bit of that, I guess.
03:44I mean, it's probably...
03:45But I...
03:46But statistically and empirically...
03:49You got screwed.
03:50I got screwed.
03:51Yeah.
03:51I got screwed.
03:51I'm curious on that.
03:52On your resume now, you can only put one time...
03:55One year.
03:56...National Honor Society number.
03:57That's it, man.
03:57Yeah.
03:57That's amazing.
03:58Yeah.
03:58Because companies are really impressive.
04:00That's what they hear about.
04:01High school accolades.
04:02Whatever.
04:02It's in your permanent record.
04:04And you know how I feel about that.
04:05Finance director for the yearbook.
04:07Yeah.
04:08Yeah.
04:09So, I'm really curious on yours.
04:10So, you're 57 years old.
04:12Mine was...
04:12Okay.
04:13This was interesting.
04:14So, in 2000...
04:162005 was the first year.
04:17Like, I actually kind of came into my own as a player as my fifth year in the NFL.
04:23But I ended up...
04:24Like, I had...
04:24I was just...
04:25They let me stay in on third down every now and then.
04:27And I had five sacks.
04:29It was a defensive tackle, which is a pretty respectable number.
04:31And I started...
04:32I kind of started off on a tear.
04:34And so, there was...
04:35You know, people were talking about, like, oh, Seth might make the Pro Bowl this year.
04:38Like, guys...
04:38You know, coach was telling me that and everything.
04:40And I always tried real hard not to care about the Pro Bowl.
04:42But I was curious to see how it all worked out.
04:44So, lo and behold, when it came time to vote on the Pro Bowl, the guy who was in charge
04:50of it for the Texans had not submitted my name as a starter.
04:54No way!
04:56So, I wasn't on the ballot.
04:57Oh, my God!
04:59So, I don't know if I was robbed of it or not, but I was robbed of even having a
05:03chance
05:03to get voted to the Pro Bowl.
05:05Which is even worse!
05:05Because I wasn't even on the ballot.
05:07You don't need to name names, but whose job function was it to do that?
05:11Okay, so it was a really good dude who was, like, in charge of the sports media, whatever.
05:15Don't try and save him.
05:16Don't put the really good dude on it.
05:17We want to be mad.
05:19This is how he made it up to me, because he felt genuinely bad about it.
05:22I made all kinds of, like, all-blue-collar team and everything like that that year.
05:27Peter King's unsung heroes.
05:30Oh, God.
05:30Yeah, yeah.
05:31It was rough, man.
05:33That's not the same as the Pro Bowl.
05:35Yeah, don't go show up on the Pro Football reference page.
05:37It wasn't...
05:39Like, at the end of the day, it didn't...
05:41It didn't...
05:41I just genuinely always tried not to carry about personal accolades, and I wasn't that
05:46type of player.
05:46I was more of a run-stuffer.
05:47But, like, that was the one year that it might have happened, I wasn't even on the ballot.
05:51Yeah, man.
05:52That's bogus, dude.
05:53Marcus Stroud was drafted in the first round, and he just assumed that Stroud would be the
05:57starter.
05:57And I don't know when they had to submit it, like, the ballots to the league.
06:02I think he must have filled them out a long time ago.
06:04Yeah.
06:05But I started that whole season, and Stroud was my backup.
06:07But Stroud was on the ballot for the Pro Bowl.
06:10Oh, probably got no votes.
06:12Like, it was a wasted spot on the ballot.
06:13I wasn't on the ballot.
06:14Oh, yeah.
06:15Stroud.
06:15Yeah, yeah, yeah.
06:16Stroud.
06:16Yeah, yeah.
06:18I like that Seth's like, I'm not about these individual accolades while there's a trophy
06:22right over his shoulder in the shop.
06:26That's there as a piece of art.
06:28I know.
06:28I've told you that.
06:29I know.
06:30I was just clowning.
06:31I'm just clowning.
06:32I'm wearing my high school National Honor Society ring.
06:36Yeah.
06:39To taunt me.
06:40I should have gotten out my NHS ring for this segment.
06:43Yes, yes.
06:44I can read the engraving.
06:46It says, all blue collar.
06:48Yeah, yeah.
06:49Right there.
06:50Oh, my God.
06:50The rhinestone encrusted.
06:52Oh, my God.
06:52Did you give yours of what you were robbed of?
06:54Mine, I like to go in the Wayback Machine sometimes.
06:57Sure.
06:57This is about as way back as you can get.
06:59The year was 1974.
07:01Okay.
07:021974.
07:0250 years ago.
07:04The dribble shoot contest.
07:05It was very popular back in the day.
07:07Okay.
07:08And I made it to the finals regionally, and the champions of each region would do an exhibition
07:15at the Spurs ABA halftime, or maybe they were in the NBA by then, halftime show.
07:20And they miscounted my...
07:22You had to dribble through cones and then shoot from three cones.
07:25Yeah.
07:26And then make as many layups as you could until the three minutes was up.
07:29Yep.
07:30And they miscounted.
07:31Did you know they miscounted?
07:33Afterward.
07:34You found out?
07:34And I went and asked them, but I was meek and shy back then.
07:36No, I like the idea that John is counting his points as he goes.
07:41Like, oh, that's 17.
07:42My sister and my best friend were counting them, and then the person who was counting them missed
07:47me by three.
07:48Oh, wow.
07:49Yeah, and I would have gone to perform at the halftime of the NBA game.
07:53Okay, they couldn't...
07:54They couldn't...
07:55I asked, but...
07:56Did they disagree with you that they miscounted?
07:58No.
07:58She was just kind of, you know, not paying real good attention.
08:01She didn't care.
08:01She was like, get out of here, kid.
08:02Yeah, yeah.
08:02We got our winners.
08:03Yeah, but I would have been featured at halftime, and then who knows what would have happened.
08:06Who knows where your life goes?
08:07They would have signed you as a minor.
08:10As a 12-year-old.
08:12As a 12-year-old.
08:13You might have been more hepped up about basketball at that time.
08:15Isn't it funny, though, that that still sticks with me?
08:18Yeah, I think it's still.
08:191974?
08:20Yeah.
08:21Yeah.
08:21John Lopez can hold a grudge.
08:2352 years against some random chick that couldn't count.
08:28Whose job probably was not even...
08:29That was not her job description.
08:31No, it was volunteers.
08:31She was just doing something.
08:33Yeah, yeah.
08:33Oh, my God.
08:35All right, I love that that sticks with you.
08:36I hate that it happened to you, but I love that it sticks with you.
08:39Yes.
08:40Yeah.
08:40Grievances.
08:41Grievances, yes.
08:42All right, Crosstalk brought to you by DNM Auto Leasing.
08:45Seth, antibodies to you, my friend.
08:47Antibodies.
08:47Oh, it gets even worse.
08:492001, Seth Payne.
08:5315 TFLs.
08:54Oh.
08:54You had 15 TFLs in a year?
08:56Yeah.
08:57It was a hell of a year.
08:58Dude, you might have made...
08:59A hell of a vintage.
09:00Do you...
09:00Okay, I'm going to go look this up as soon.
09:01Not on your guys' watch here.
09:03I got to look up who actually did make the Pro Bowl.
09:05Oh, no, it was some really good players, including Gary Walker.
09:08Yeah, it wasn't...
09:08Oh, your teammate at the time.
09:10I would have liked to have been considered.
09:11Yeah.
09:12Yeah, right.
09:12I would have liked to have been on the ballot.
09:14Apropos of nothing, apropos of nothing, I still have Tony Wiley's phone number.
09:18Oh, it wasn't...
09:19No, this was from Jaguars.
09:20It was Jags.
09:21No, Tony Wiley was the Texans.
09:22This was from the Jaguars.
09:23It was Jags, yeah.
09:25The Texans weren't a franchise in 2000.
09:27Oh, that's right, that's right.
09:28Yeah.
09:29Yeah, okay, so we'll need to find out the name of the Jags person so we can throw some poop
09:34at their door or something.
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