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00:00legal where Amanda's DNA was found.
00:02That's all. Soon on Yellow Line.
00:06Perugia, November 2, 2007, a body is found.
00:12It's Meredith Kershaw's body.
00:14Meredith was raped, stabbed and had her throat slit.
00:30We're talking about Meredith.
00:33The trial could be reopened
00:36based on a new RIS expert report on the knife
00:39found at Raffaele Sollecito's house,
00:44in which only Amanda's DNA was found.
00:48We'll talk about it shortly.
00:49But in the meantime Meredith's story begins with this phone call.
00:53Listen.
00:55Avvinieri, Perugia.
00:57Hello, good morning.
01:00Someone practically broke into the house by breaking the window
01:05and he put a lot of effort into it.
01:08There is a closed door.
01:09Start.
01:11Perugia, Perugia.
01:12Perugia, Perugia.
01:13Perugia, Perugia.
01:14Perugia.
01:15Perugia, Perugia.
01:18This house, sir?
01:20So, look here.
01:23It's an Amanda...
01:24Huh?
01:26People live inside.
01:28They are a group of students who love...
01:31Can you give me the name and cell phone number of one of the carers?
01:34Yes.
01:36Amanda?
01:37Yes.
01:38Your name is K, N...
01:40Yes.
01:41O, E, X...
01:43Yes.
01:44Burglary, huh?
01:47No, there is no theft.
01:48They broke...
01:51I mean, they basically walked in.
01:53They broke a window and how do you know they got in?
01:56It's true, you can see by the marks, then there are those who even have stains in the bathroom.
02:02That is, they got in and why are they broken, that is, did they cut themselves breaking the glass?
02:09Eh, this case.
02:10Ready!
02:13After two trials you have to start all over again.
02:17We need to put all the pieces of this story back in place.
02:22Let's do it too with Erika Crispo.
02:26Perugia, November 2, 2007.
02:29It was just after 1pm when a man was found in the ground floor apartment at Via della Pergola 7.
02:35corpse.
02:37It's Meredith Kercher's body.
02:41A 21-year-old English student, in Italy to attend the University of Perugia, with the Erasmus project.
02:48Meredith was raped, stabbed, and had her throat slit.
02:52According to the autopsy, death occurred between 10 pm and midnight on November 1st.
02:58Investigations begin immediately.
03:00Friends and acquaintances of Meredith in Perugia are being interviewed.
03:03and from the very beginning the investigators' attention focused on the American roommate
03:08and her boyfriend, Amanda Knox.
03:11And Raffaele Sollecito.
03:15It was them who noticed that something was wrong in Via della Pergola on the morning of
03:20November 2nd
03:20and it was Raffaele who first called the police, after Amanda told him what she saw.
03:26Meredith's room door locked and a window pane broken,
03:30as if someone had broken into the house.
03:33After being questioned several times and at length, on November 6, 2007 Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito
03:40are arrested for the murder of Meredith Kercher.
03:43Patrick Lumumba, manager of the bar where Amanda worked, was arrested with them.
03:48and accused by herself.
03:50After 14 days of unjust detention, Lumumba will be released from prison
03:54and Knox will later be convicted of slandering him.
04:01In the meantime, investigators have also identified Rudy Herman Guede among the culprits,
04:06Ivorian, but in Perugia for a long time,
04:08and issue an international arrest warrant against him.
04:11A few days later, Guede was arrested in Germany and extradited to Italy.
04:16He will always profess his innocence, but on December 16, 2010
04:20he will be definitively sentenced with a fast-track trial to 16 years in prison
04:24for sexual assault and complicity in murder.
04:28There is no doubt about Rudy's presence at the crime scene.
04:31His traces are everywhere.
04:33There is his handprint on the victim's blood-soaked pillow.
04:37There are biological traces of him in Meredith's vaginal swab
04:39and his feces were found in the bathroom.
04:44But let's go back to Amanda and Raffaele.
04:48According to the prosecution, they were the ones who killed Meredith together with Rudy Guede.
04:52they tried to involve the English student in an erotic game.
04:56His refusal sparked ferocity.
05:00Rudy abused her and Amanda and Raffaele stabbed her.
05:04Then they broke the glass of a window of the house to simulate a burglary.
05:10The scientific evidence presented by the prosecution against the two young engaged couples,
05:14However, they were at the center of a battle between experts.
05:19Amanda and Raffaele's version is that on the evening of the murder
05:23they were both at home on time.
05:25Here they had dinner, smoked weed, had sex, watched a movie
05:28and then they fell asleep until the next morning.
05:31Amanda woke up around 10am.
05:33And she went back to her house to take a shower.
05:35He noticed that the apartment door was strangely open.
05:38and saw some blood stains in the bathroom.
05:41He knocked on Meredith's room door, but she didn't answer.
05:45She returned to Raffaele and told him these strange things.
05:49Then both of them, worried, called the police from Via della Pergola.
05:53The investigators, however, don't believe him.
05:57Why did Amanda, despite noticing those oddities, take a shower without any worries?
06:02According to the prosecution, the two young men faked the theft.
06:05Nothing is missing from the house.
06:07Neither the computer nor any other valuables were stolen.
06:10The broken glass shards are found above the objects scattered on the floor, not underneath.
06:15This would prove that the room was ransacked beforehand.
06:19and then the window was broken.
06:22Furthermore, there is the testimony of a merchant
06:24who claims to have seen Amanda, early that morning,
06:27enter his shop and head to the detergent section.
06:32And another witness, Antonio Curatolo, also denies the couple's alibi.
06:36He is a homeless man who testifies to having seen the night of the murder
06:39Amanda and Raffaele talking not far from Via della Pergola.
06:44But these witnesses are reliable.
06:47The first and second instance judges give two different assessments.
06:52December 5, 2009.
06:54First instance ruling.
06:56Declares Nox Amanda, Marie and prompt Raffaele,
07:00guilty of the crimes attributed to them,
07:03Nox sentences them to 26 years of imprisonment
07:06and the penalty of 25 years is the reminder.
07:11October 3, 2011.
07:13Appeal ruling.
07:15He acquits both defendants of the crimes attributed to them under counts A, B, C and D.
07:20for not having committed the crime.
07:22Order the immediate release of Nox Amanda, Marie
07:25and I urge Raffaele if not detained for another reason.
07:29March 25, 2013.
07:32The Court of Cassation overturns the acquittal.
07:36The new appeal trial began last September 30 in Florence.
07:41The verdict is expected in January 2014.
07:49Lawyer Luca Maori is Raffaele Sollecito's illegal lawyer.
07:53Welcome, lawyer.
07:54Can you tell us why Raffaele Sollecito is innocent?
07:57Simply because Raffaele Sollecito was not present that evening,
08:00on the evening of November 1, 2007, in the house on Via della Pergola.
08:04He was in his house, about a kilometer away from Via della Pergola,
08:10in a completely different matter and affair.
08:12At that moment he was experiencing his first real love story,
08:17he was with the woman he loved and was in a completely different situation.
08:23So he was not present in Via della Pergola.
08:27Evidence has been mounted against Raffaele, several pieces of evidence.
08:32From the very first moment he had been identified and indicated together with Amanda
08:36as the subjects who necessarily committed this terrible murder.
08:42But all the evidence, the one that was argued and indicated, has fallen.
08:47They are made of two like snow in the sun.
08:52Like snow in the sun.
08:53Connected with us from Florence is the lawyer Francesco Maresca,
08:58Meredith Kercher's family's illegal lawyer.
09:01Good evening, lawyer.
09:02How do you respond to the Maori lawyer?
09:09I'm answering, good evening everyone.
09:11First of all, I answer that the reconstruction offered by the defendants has always been
09:18did not find support in the evidence obtained as a result of the investigations.
09:24We believe that that evening went differently
09:29and this is why the Assize Court in the first instance in Perugia
09:33convicted both defendants, holding them responsible for the murder.
09:37Daniele Protti, is there a hounding of these two kids, Amanda and Raffaele, in your opinion?
09:44No, I wouldn't talk about persecution, even from a media point of view.
09:51They got almost all of them wrong because of how they appeared on television.
09:57But this is something absolutely influential.
10:01There is a mystery, at least what appears to me is a mystery in this story,
10:07because there is a confessed and convicted criminal, Ghedè, Rudy Ghedè,
10:15and he doesn't speak. Why?
10:20If things went as the accusation against the two sweethearts,
10:29are those that were supported by the prosecution,
10:35and why Ghedè remains silent, even though he has been convicted.
10:41What's underneath?
10:43What's going on, Professor Mastroardi? Briefly.
10:45This is a very important element which the Court of Cassation is dealing with,
10:53where he speaks of illogicality and contradictoriness.
10:57Because the Court of Cassation says, but how do you go about the trial,
11:01just after having condemned Rudy Ghedè in the side trial,
11:06for complicity in murder, Rudy Ghedè is the only one who knows that he was present.
11:12So who was involved in the murder?
11:14Why didn't Rudy Ghedè join that trial?
11:17Rudy Ghedè said this, he confessed to everyone how things had gone,
11:22He made a very good statement, he said I'm guilty because if she had stayed there a little longer I would have saved her.
11:29And he says I wasn't at the crime scene, I was in the bathroom and he explained exactly...
11:34What happened?
11:35We published it later, he himself declared on the basis of what he himself declared and he
11:41published.
11:41I'll stop here, because there are some important issues to resolve in the new debate.
11:47Let's hear from Crispo again.
11:50Everything to be done again. On March 25, 2013, the Court of Cassation overturned the acquittal sentence of the appeal trial for
11:57the murder of Meredith Kercher
11:58and ordered a new trial.
12:01According to the Supreme Court judges, the second-instance ruling's shortcomings, contradictions, and illogicalities are evident.
12:09The Court of Cassation requests that the evidence be assessed in its entirety in the new trial
12:14and not in a piecemeal fashion as done during the appeal hearing.
12:18Between the first and second degree there was a real battle between experts which overturned
12:23the sentences totally.
12:25In particular, among the elements that the Court of Cassation has asked to be analyzed more thoroughly, there are these.
12:34The kitchen knife found in Sollecito's house was deemed compatible with the major wound in the first instance.
12:40on Meredith's body.
12:42Two biological traces were found on it, one attributable to Amanda Knox and one belonging to the victim.
12:49The second-degree experts, however, ruled out the possibility that it could be the murder weapon.
12:55According to them, Knox's DNA is there because the girl frequented Raffaele's house,
12:59while for the other track it cannot be said with certainty that it belongs to Meredith.
13:08Raffaele Sollecito's DNA was found on Meredith's bra clasp, stained with her blood.
13:15According to the appeal expert report, however, it is a case of contamination,
13:18since the finding was acquired more than 40 days after the fact
13:22and was found in a different position than the one it was in during the first inspection of the
13:27scientific.
13:32A bare footprint, imprinted in blood, is found on Amanda and Meredith's bathroom mat.
13:39In the first instance it was considered to correspond to the right foot of the solicitation.
13:43The appellate experts, however, exclude it because Raffaele's foot
13:47It has a peculiarity on the big toe that is not found in that track.
13:55Mixed biological traces attributable to the two girls were found in Amanda and Meredith's bathroom.
14:01They're on the cotton swab box, in the sink, and in the bidet.
14:04According to forensic science, Amanda scrubbed her skin to remove Meredith's blood.
14:09In an attempt to clean itself, its skin cells mixed with the victim's blood.
14:15The luminol also highlights some traces in Amanda's room and in that of the other tenant,
14:20where the theft allegedly took place.
14:22They would have left Knox's feet, stained with Meredith's blood.
14:26But the second-degree experts object in this case too
14:29that the traces would be the result of contamination.
14:32The presence of Amanda's DNA is justified by the fact that she lived in that house.
14:41Amanda says she was at Raffaele's house until 10 in the morning,
14:45However, he does not report anything about the phone call that Sollecito receives from his father at 9.30.
14:50According to the Assize Court, this is a sign that the two young people were not together and that Knox lied.
14:56Amanda also allegedly lied when she declared that the night before she had had dinner with Raffaele around 10pm.
15:01In a phone call to his father at 8:42 pm, however, Sollecito says he is washing the dishes.
15:07For the court, another lie that undermines the alibi of the two young men.
15:11The Court of Appeal, however, did not consider these elements important in verifying their alibis.
15:20A supermarket owner claims to have seen Amanda enter his shop at 7.45am on the morning of
15:26November 2nd
15:27and head to the detergent aisle.
15:29Remember that when he arrived to open the shop, she was already there waiting.
15:34According to the second instance judges, however, this is a weak testimony,
15:38arrived a year after the facts,
15:40and even if it were true, it would not be indicative of the guilt of the two young men.
15:46And then there is another witness, Antonio Curatolo,
15:50a homeless man who frequented the area of Via della Pergola and Piazza Grimana.
15:54That evening he recognized Amanda and Raffaele not far from the house where the murder took place.
15:58On appeal, however, his testimony was not considered reliable,
16:03also because Curatolo got confused by overlapping the memory of Halloween evening
16:07to the one on the evening of the murder.
16:12Dr. Walter Patumi, good evening, is an expert witness for Amanda Knox's defense, a medical examiner.
16:19There has been a new RIS expert report on the knife found in Raffaele Sollecito's house,
16:25in which there is only Amanda's DNA.
16:28What does this mean for you?
16:29But simply that that knife is absolutely not the knife used in the murder.
16:37The reality is this.
16:38Both the professor and I have been saying this for a long time.
16:42Dr. Gini, in particular the geneticist.
16:45It is a knife absolutely incompatible with the wounds suffered by the victim
16:52and it is a knife in which there is absolutely no trace of the victim anywhere on the knife.
17:01Thank you, doctor.
17:02So, Mr. Mauri, are we to assume that the murder weapon is missing?
17:06The murder weapon is there, it certainly was there, because poor Merit was killed with a knife.
17:12However, this murder weapon is not in the trial records.
17:15Lawyer Maresca, what do you say?
17:20I say that for the Public Prosecutor's Office and for the Court of First Instance, that is the murder weapon.
17:30I say above all that first of all, as you have already said in the article,
17:37The genetic profile of METS, Merit, was traced on the tip of the blade,
17:44and which the expert report ordered at the appeal stage did not criticize.
17:51It's not the tip of the knife, but unfortunately that's the result.
17:56Where the coup was made is not at the tip of the knife, it is the imagination of the voted.
18:01I don't want to create a contradiction, there is an expert report filed.
18:05Well, I'll just say that this knife has been talked about a lot.
18:12and this process is full of many other elements that can be evaluated
18:18from the Court of Assizes of Appeal of Florence.
18:22Attorney Mauri, briefly, then I also want to hear from Portera.
18:25Precisely, the expert report carried out by the second degree judges of Perugia,
18:30has clearly and unequivocally established that it is not Merit Kircher's DNA.
18:35This knife, Dr. Portera, has been examined at various levels of judgment.
18:41Why? Can you explain it to us?
18:42But yes, let's say first of all that this knife was characterized by a very low quantity of DNA,
18:49so having so little DNA did not allow us to repeat the analytical operations
18:55and for this reason there have been various contradictors, expert witnesses, judge's experts
19:02who opposed each other because of their opinions.
19:04This evening, in fact, we have the opportunity to see this profile,
19:08which was found by the consultants of the Public Prosecutor, then of the Scientific Police,
19:14in the first instance, precisely over the knife.
19:17We can see on the left Merit's DNA as a comparison sample
19:21and on the right, with red boxes, the DNA that was found on the knife,
19:28Merit's DNA, this is the first degree we're talking about.
19:31DNA that was later contested and then annulled. Why?
19:35Because we can also see that the quality of the profile is definitely not that great
19:41and above all this low quantity of DNA did not allow for repetition,
19:45and therefore to be able to show, verify, that the victim's DNA was actually present.
19:51Sulas.
19:53In the crime room where this massacre takes place,
19:57only traces of Ghedè were found,
20:00including Ghedè's DNA and the victim's blood,
20:03in Merit's bag,
20:06from which two credit cards are missing.
20:08Well, in this trial the theft is assigned to Raffaele and Amanda,
20:14but Ghedè's bloody hands are on the bag.
20:17Daniele Protti asked a fundamental question.
20:20Why doesn't Ghedè speak out after all the evidence points to her?
20:23Why is there a palm print on the pillow,
20:26there's his DNA everywhere practically,
20:29the bag etc.
20:30Why doesn't he talk?
20:31Why doesn't he have anything to say?
20:32Why was he there alone that night stealing from that house?
20:36As it was only three days ago in Milan
20:39to steal from a nursery school
20:41where he is surprised by the director
20:43and what does he do?
20:44He pulls out the knife.
20:45I finished a month ago.
20:47In the house of a bartender in Perugia he is stealing,
20:50the bartender wakes up,
20:51he throws a chair at him,
20:52what does he always do alone?
20:54Take out the knife.
20:55These precedents are never taken into consideration.
20:57But there are no traces of Amanda and Raffaele
21:00at the crime scene.
21:02I wonder how one can condemn them.
21:04Soon, fellow viewers
21:06we will also talk about Ghedè
21:07and we will hear Raffaele Sollecito's version.
21:09Soon to the yellow line.
21:11I am respected as a murderer,
21:14cold and ruthless.
21:18Obviously, I am none of these things.
21:22Thank you...
21:29I thank you very much for your attention.
21:42Back live on Yellow Line,
21:44fellow viewers,
21:45Raffaele Sollecito will have to face
21:48a new process alone,
21:49without Amanda Knox.
21:52He will have to prove his innocence,
21:54while his ex-girlfriend
21:55he will never return from the United States.
21:59A few days ago Raffaele returned to the courtroom
22:02and he turned to the judges
22:04for a heartfelt appeal.
22:05Let's listen to it.
22:07Let me introduce myself, I'm Raffaele Sollecito.
22:10Unfortunately before me
22:12my name comes to you
22:14covered by the media
22:17and by many...
22:20many others, let's say,
22:23comments and descriptions.
22:25When I lived in Perugia
22:27I was a very private person
22:32because I devoted myself a lot to my studies
22:34which were very challenging.
22:36Amanda and I were living in the early days
22:39of a very lighthearted story
22:41and we wanted to be, let's say,
22:45completely isolated
22:47in our nest of desires
22:52and of, let's say,
22:55in this little tale.
22:57Anything could go through our heads
22:59why be so ruthless
23:02and respectful
23:02towards a human life.
23:04That's why I would like
23:07first of all make you understand
23:09How absurd these accusations are.
23:11The Court of Cassation
23:13which was...
23:15I have great respect
23:17for your role
23:18as judges
23:19but I can also understand
23:21that as human beings
23:22you can also make mistakes.
23:25And the thing
23:26it hurts a lot
23:28when I read
23:30in the Supreme Court ruling
23:33that there are various points
23:36taken into consideration
23:38from the same Court
23:39which is given a lot of importance
23:41which in reality
23:42it doesn't matter at all
23:43and they are almost ridiculous.
23:47I was arrested
23:48for a pocketknife
23:52which was in my possession
23:53and which was described
23:54like the murder weapon.
23:56That one there too
23:57it was just an illusion.
24:00It was an imagination
24:02absolutely
24:03which has been exposed as a liar
24:05and it has been completely changed
24:07in subsequent acts.
24:09I have never known
24:10Rudy Guedet
24:11and I knew Meredith very little.
24:14It doesn't make any sense
24:15real
24:17that I have
24:17had
24:19a very minimal interest
24:21to perpetrate
24:23such an atrocious fact
24:28towards
24:29of a girl
24:29at twenty years old.
24:30I feel
24:31towards me
24:32a persecution
24:34mind-blowing
24:35that for me
24:37it doesn't make any logical sense
24:39no sense
24:40it seems like a nightmare
24:42that goes beyond
24:44every imagination.
24:45They described me
24:46like a murderer
24:47Freddo
24:50ruthless.
24:51Me obviously
24:52I am nothing
24:53of all this.
24:54Today
24:55I'm in front of you
24:57and I'm here
25:00just for
25:02look for
25:02to make myself known
25:04and to show
25:05actually
25:07what is the reality
25:08of this whole affair.
25:14After
25:15all that
25:16that I have
25:17tremendously
25:18lived
25:19Then
25:20it's difficult
25:22I know though
25:22you can't understand
25:24how much it hurts
25:25for me
25:27to be able to
25:28have to
25:29to be forced
25:30again
25:31to speak
25:31before a court
25:34all this
25:35had
25:37an impact
25:37dramatic
25:38even at the level
25:40psychological
25:41Why
25:42for me
25:42it's very difficult
25:43look forward
25:45try to
25:46be positive
25:47in a future.
25:50I
25:50I ask you
25:52humbly
25:53Of
25:53to be able to look
25:55reality
25:56of everything
25:58of all
25:59this story
26:00and of
26:02consider
26:03the big mistake
26:04that has been done
26:04and to be able to
26:07give the opportunity
26:09to believe
26:10Still
26:11that for a person
26:12like me
26:12an Italian
26:15like you
26:17there may be
26:18the possibility
26:19to have
26:20a life
26:20a life
26:22because at the moment
26:23I
26:24a life
26:24real
26:25I don't have it
26:27I ask you
26:28This
26:29and I thank you
26:31thank you
26:38Very
26:38for attention
26:43these are the words
26:45by Raffaele
26:45I urge
26:46the lawyer
26:46Francis
26:47Master
26:48he's a friend
26:49by Raffaele
26:50I urge
26:51how is he living
26:52Now
26:53Raphael
26:55Raphael
26:56is living
26:57a nightmare
26:58a nightmare
26:59which could
26:59live anyone
27:00at the moment in which
27:01in the morning
27:01from innocent
27:02he gets up
27:02and he is forced
27:03in spite of himself
27:04to pass by
27:04four years
27:05in prison
27:08it is strongly
27:09disheartened
27:10he has confidence
27:12in the judiciary
27:14at the moment in which
27:15finally
27:15you can do it
27:16to shed light
27:17look
27:17I listened
27:18a lot of things
27:19which are said
27:21without even reading
27:22the cards
27:23sometimes
27:23and this hurts
27:25to Raffaele
27:26knowing that there are people
27:27which continues
27:28to insist
27:28that on the knife
27:30there are traces
27:31by Meredith Kercher
27:32when the tracks
27:33by Meredith Kercher
27:34on that knife
27:35they are not here
27:36then he likes it
27:37of a part
27:38say it
27:38let's say it
27:39but we have to
27:40even to have a trial
27:41on objective data
27:42and when Raffaele
27:43start to see
27:44that justice
27:45he rewards him like this
27:47indicating
27:48in the murder
27:49a murder
27:49on impulse
27:50and then saying
27:51I carry myself
27:51a knife
27:52from home
27:5234 centimeters
27:54maybe it happens to me
27:55an orgy
27:55maybe it happens to me
27:56a crime
27:57a whole series
27:58of contradictions
27:59that not only
28:00they make you suffer
28:01an element
28:01that is foursome
28:02in prison
28:03but it also makes
28:04that element
28:05vulnerable
28:07at the moment in which
28:08an institution
28:09like justice
28:10in a moment
28:11he says you're guilty
28:12in the other moment
28:13luckily
28:14he says you're innocent
28:16it's not an aberration
28:17it's all an aberration
28:18Italian
28:18and this goes though
28:19we have to say it
28:20the lawyer Mastro
28:20at the expense of both Raffaele
28:22since you are friends
28:23and also Raffaele's lawyers
28:25but also at the expense
28:25of the victim
28:26let's not forget
28:28that a girl died
28:29and that the family
28:30wait for justice
28:32rightly you
28:33place the emphasis
28:35about Raffaele
28:35prompt on the ordeal
28:38like yourself
28:38you defined it
28:39who is living
28:40for many years
28:41on the phone
28:43we should have
28:43him exactly
28:45Raffaele sollecito
28:46good evening Raffaele
28:46can you hear me?
28:48yes yes
28:48I feel it
28:49hello, hello
28:50Good evening
28:51good evening Raffaele
28:52can I ask you?
28:53how are you
28:54how is he coping
28:55this new process?
28:58with what state of mind
29:00at least?
29:00I'm dealing with it
29:02with confidence
29:04of people
29:06who read
29:08and they see the facts
29:09really as they are
29:11I
29:12I'm giving this courtesy
29:14although
29:15actually
29:16I decided
29:18Of
29:18set me silence
29:19until
29:20the sentence arrives
29:22There are
29:25directly from there
29:26my lawyers are here
29:28and also
29:30Amanda's consultants
29:32and also Giancambino Surles
29:33who know
29:34perfectly
29:35all the cards
29:35of the process
29:36I do not want
29:38enter
29:38on the merits
29:39and in fact
29:40I don't let her in
29:41Raphael
29:41I just want to ask you
29:42has never
29:44lost hope
29:45to demonstrate
29:46his innocence
29:47had a moment
29:48where he surrendered
29:49in all these years
29:50he said
29:51Perhaps
29:52I'm throwing in the towel
29:55Truly
29:55I the sponge
29:57I had thrown it away
29:58already when I was in prison
29:59Why
29:59my life
30:00he didn't have
30:01Very
30:02sense
30:03but
30:05today as today
30:06I am confident
30:08That
30:10at the level
30:11Of
30:12seriousness
30:13of what
30:14I am
30:15the elements
30:16and the evidence
30:17of how they come
30:18analyzed
30:19I keep seeing
30:20that there are
30:22of people
30:22capable
30:23and people
30:24That
30:24let's say
30:25they take out
30:26the truth
30:29without being
30:30influenced
30:31from an idea
30:32which can be
30:33only
30:34that
30:34let's say
30:35which is given
30:35from the media
30:36or is given
30:37from people
30:37whatever happens
30:38they want to create
30:39of the characters
30:40Certain
30:40Raphael
30:41I do them
30:41the last question
30:42then I leave her
30:43because I know he doesn't want to
30:43get into the merits
30:45of the process
30:45can I ask you?
30:46if he still feels
30:47mistrust
30:48around her
30:49at a distance
30:50for a long time
30:51or
30:51if he found
30:52in his work
30:53daily
30:54in his life
30:56daily
30:56people too
30:57willing to listen
30:58his version
30:59or she was
31:00convicted
31:01from the agent
31:02let's say
31:03like the killer
31:04by Amanda
31:05No
31:06Truly
31:07the people
31:07he supports me
31:09the people
31:09who knows me
31:10above all
31:11or who knew me
31:13even after
31:13he supports me
31:16Why
31:17he really sees
31:18things as they are
31:19and sees the absurdity
31:21of these accusations
31:22but
31:23I don't feel like it
31:24convicted
31:24from the people
31:25I feel
31:26convicted
31:27from an image
31:28and from a character
31:29which was created
31:31Alas
31:31Before
31:32by the investigators
31:33and then
31:33from the media
31:34Raphael
31:35thank you
31:36for this phone call
31:37A thousand thanks
31:38Really
31:40Thank you
31:40Good evening
31:41Thank you
31:42At that time
31:42Raphael
31:43prompt
31:44and Amanda
31:44Nox
31:45the couple
31:46a love
31:47which seemed
31:47bombproof
31:49so much so that it is
31:50waved
31:51on television
31:52but how was it
31:53born
31:54their
31:55history
31:56the story
31:56of this couple
31:57finished
31:57in the center
31:58of attention
31:59of all media
32:00and not only
32:00Italians
32:01we hear
32:02Francesco Cremonesi
32:07I can say
32:08that one of the things
32:09what I prefer to do
32:10with Raffaele
32:11it's exchanging kisses
32:12and watch him in bed
32:14we make faces at each other
32:15with the face
32:16and we rub against each other
32:17the noses
32:17what in America
32:18is called
32:19Iskimo kiss
32:22Amanda and Raffaele
32:24a glance
32:25a game of glances
32:26and love at first sight
32:27all born
32:28on the evening of October 25th
32:30at a concert
32:30of classical music
32:31in Perugia
32:32he is shy
32:33taciturn
32:34an introverted boy
32:35that from that evening
32:36find the agreement
32:37with Amanda
32:37the beautiful student
32:39American
32:40remembers his father
32:41by Raffaele
32:42he treated her
32:43and cuddled her
32:43as if she were a child
32:52Raffaele was
32:53transferred to Perugia
32:54in 2002
32:54from Giovinazzo
32:56in Puglia
32:56after graduation
32:57until 2005
32:58had lodged
33:00in college
33:00before going
33:01to live
33:01in the house
33:02of Corso Garibaldi
33:03before Amanda
33:04a short story
33:05with a girl
33:06from Brindisi
33:06a flirt
33:07lasted a few days
33:08in the previous months
33:09as of October 2007
33:14the two bond
33:15right away
33:15they hang out
33:16assiduously
33:17Amanda doesn't hide it
33:18not even to his parents
33:19to whom he tells
33:21that was passing by
33:21most of the time
33:22with him
33:23who was kind
33:23and careful
33:24and cooked for her
33:25and always wanted
33:26hug her
33:27and help her
33:31that the relationship
33:32between Amanda
33:33and Raphael
33:33it was very narrow
33:34they testify to it
33:35also Filomena Romanelli
33:37and Laura Mezzetti
33:38Amanda's roommates
33:40the young women tell
33:41that Raffaele
33:42he had come
33:43in Via's house
33:43of the Pergola
33:44at least four times
33:45and that Amanda
33:46he slept often
33:47At home
33:47of his new partner
33:48Raffaele is a good boy
33:50with me
33:51he speaks
33:52of his past
33:53of his dead mother
33:54Raffaele is a scholar
33:56with me
33:57always kind
33:58he hugs me
33:59and he always kisses me
34:00when we are together
34:02and we have fun
34:03we don't have to do it
34:04nothing special
34:05with him
34:06I feel safe
34:09all this
34:10it is intended
34:11to interrupt
34:12abruptly
34:12after the murder
34:13by Meredith
34:14Amanda and Raffaele
34:15they enter prison
34:19if I were out
34:20I would get up later
34:22and I would have breakfast
34:23with Raffaele
34:24we will study later
34:25a bit
34:25and then we will walk
34:26together for the center
34:27maybe we will visit
34:29even a small town
34:30near Perugia
34:34from the moment
34:35of the arrest
34:35for Amanda and Raffaele
34:36they don't remain
34:37what looks
34:38in the classroom
34:38during the hearings
34:39of the process
34:40a few whispers
34:41while they are sitting
34:42at the counter
34:42of the defendants
34:43then the absolution
34:44on appeal
34:45and the return
34:46in Seattle
34:46by Amanda
34:49March 25th
34:50the Court of Cassation
34:51cancel
34:51the sentence
34:52of appeal
34:52and for Amanda
34:53and Raphael
34:54we start again
34:55from the beginning
34:55the two
34:56I am now
34:56distant
34:57from each other
34:58until now
34:58they tried
34:59to rebuild itself
35:00a life
35:00distant
35:01from memory
35:01from Perugia
35:02enough though
35:03a meeting
35:03for a greeting
35:04in New York
35:04and the couple
35:05still appears
35:06once
35:06in the tabloids
35:07of Halfworld
35:10Lawyer Mastro
35:11can I ask you?
35:11what a relationship
35:12there is now
35:13between Raffaele and Amanda
35:14Now
35:15between Raffaele and Amanda
35:16there is a relationship
35:17of cordial
35:19friendship
35:20at a distance
35:22it remained
35:23the estimate
35:23mutual
35:25it remained
35:26trust
35:27of both
35:28that things
35:29in the end
35:31they find
35:32there
35:32let's say
35:33the count
35:34Therefore
35:35they are not here
35:37particular facts
35:39for which
35:40Amanda and Raffaele
35:42filmed in New York
35:43have resumed
35:44this story
35:45then coloring
35:46a bit
35:47the situation
35:48I wanted
35:49speak
35:50a moment
35:52Yes
35:52of the matter
35:54of throwing away
35:55the sponge
35:56from Raffaele
35:56Raffaele the sponge
35:57he never threw it away
35:59even when he wanted to
36:00because he had
36:00behind
36:02a family
36:04look beyond
36:05at the trial
36:05for murder
36:06I took care of it
36:07of the process
36:09against family members
36:09that have been
36:10defined
36:10a clan
36:11the family members
36:12by Raffaele
36:13prompt
36:13they supported
36:14Raphael
36:15in the manner
36:16more complete
36:17and perfect
36:19that a family
36:19should have
36:20and in this
36:21thank you very much
36:22the father
36:23that I took
36:23for example
36:24the aunt
36:25the sister
36:26and others
36:26then the sponge
36:27we don't have it
36:29thrown
36:30Sara Viola
36:30let's go back
36:31on the couple
36:32Amanda and Raffaele
36:33What kind of couple was it?
36:35Surely
36:36it's a couple
36:36who has
36:37attracted to himself
36:38a lot of attention
36:40unfortunately a couple
36:41who has
36:44crystallized
36:44these two boys
36:45in a role
36:46that could not be
36:47friendly
36:47they are beautiful
36:48they are young
36:49they loved each other
36:50it's difficult
36:51be in solidarity
36:52with a couple
36:53with a lot of luck
36:54it's easier to say
36:54but they are also
36:55ugly and bad
36:56in
36:57I am very
36:58worried
36:59for these two boys
37:00because I'm afraid
37:01that from this story
37:03the victims become three
37:04if we move forward
37:05in this way
37:05and I really hope so
37:06let it be done
37:07total clarity
37:08about this story
37:09Sulas
37:09you among other things
37:10you know him
37:10Raffaele Sullecio
37:11he quoted you
37:12a little while ago
37:12in the phone call
37:14this is the risk
37:15the highlighted one
37:16to Sara Viola
37:16I'm worried too
37:17for this reason
37:18whatever happens
37:19this is a wound
37:20that I don't know
37:21if it heals
37:23for both of them
37:24but I wanted to add you
37:26one thing
37:26giving you data
37:28not out of prejudice
37:29I'm not prejudiced
37:30against no one
37:31but I'm sticking to the data
37:33Ghedè
37:34he says he witnessed
37:36to the murder
37:37and not having succeeded
37:38to save Meredith
37:39Very well
37:39he leaves the house
37:40you know where it goes
37:41to end the night
37:43in the disco
37:44at the Domus Delirii
37:46from Perugia
37:47calmly
37:48after which
37:49the next day
37:49gets on a train
37:50and he goes to Germany
37:51where he is a fugitive
37:53until they come running
37:54of the colossal error
37:55what they did
37:56with Lumumba
37:57and some of one
37:58he tells him
37:58look what's there
37:59the traces of another
38:00and they discover
38:01that Ghedè
38:01Very well
38:02the German police
38:03he stops it
38:03he delivers it to us
38:04at the border
38:05our police
38:06and attach
38:07upon delivery
38:08of Mr.
38:09Rudy Ghedè
38:09some photographs
38:11one of which
38:12it's the right hand
38:13by Ghedè
38:13who has 5 scars
38:15fresh
38:165 cuts
38:17all on the right hand
38:18in Perugia
38:19it doesn't matter
38:20it doesn't matter
38:22try to imagine
38:23how he got hurt
38:24for 5 times
38:26holding
38:27a knife
38:27kitchen
38:28instead of a dagger
38:29why the knife
38:31kitchen
38:31it doesn't have protection
38:32if it slips on you
38:33you cut yourself
38:34with the dagger
38:35you never cut yourself
38:35you can stab
38:36a person
38:37or a bull
38:38that you never do
38:39hand pain
38:39it's so simple
38:41let's hear from Dr. Patumi
38:42expert
38:43coroner
38:44expert
38:45of the defense team
38:47by Amanda Knox
38:47they were compatible
38:48those wounds
38:49by Ghedè
38:51with the fact
38:52of having challenged
38:53that knife
38:54I didn't see
38:55personally
38:56those photographs
38:57so I'm not
38:58able to judge
38:59Certainly
38:59it is possible
39:00that in an assault
39:02so violent
39:02like that one
39:03which he suffered
39:03the victim
39:04the attacker
39:06can be created
39:07of the injuries
39:08in challenging
39:09the knife
39:11there is violence
39:13particular
39:13in the attack
39:14suffered
39:15which among other things
39:17once again
39:18demonstrates
39:19that there is no compatibility
39:20between that knife
39:21and the injuries
39:22Dr. Patumi
39:22let's go back for a moment
39:24at the crime scene
39:25it's true that there was
39:26in your opinion
39:27a contamination
39:28of that scene?
39:29but it's not according to you
39:31reviewing the footage
39:33it's obvious
39:34That
39:35the investigations
39:36and the withdrawals
39:37that have been carried out
39:38within
39:39of the house
39:40let's say
39:41that have not been
39:42particularly
39:43Orthodox
39:43as a protocol
39:44it's obvious
39:46That
39:47in particular
39:48relatively
39:49to the problem
39:51of the hook
39:52there was
39:53an attitude
39:55perhaps excessively
39:56cinematic
39:57and less technical
39:59that they have neglected
40:00the technical part
40:01Yes
40:01Why
40:01the video
40:03visible
40:04in all
40:04it was seen
40:05during the process
40:06of appeal
40:07there is a
40:08handling
40:10excessive
40:10and rambling
40:12I make myself heard
40:13what does he say about this
40:14the lawyer Maresca
40:15family lawyer
40:16by Meredith
40:17there was contamination
40:18in her opinion
40:19lawyer?
40:22but the problem
40:23of contamination
40:24it's a problem
40:25that the Supreme Court
40:27of Cassation
40:27delete
40:28completely
40:30giving absolute strength
40:32to those that have been
40:34scientific investigations
40:36carried out
40:37from the Scientific Police
40:38of the two
40:39moon
40:40or it is contested
40:42the result
40:43of the analyses
40:44and so it is said
40:45That
40:46that's not the profile
40:47of the defendants
40:48or vice versa
40:50it is said that
40:51that's the profile
40:52and what if anything
40:53it is the result of contamination
40:54I think
40:55that both the experts
40:57on appeal
40:58who have been nominated
40:59on appeal
40:59that the defenses
41:00of the defendants
41:01for once
41:02have to choose
41:03a road
41:04or it's contamination
41:05or it's not that
41:06the profile
41:06let's hear the story
41:07Mauri
41:08the lawyer
41:08by Raffaele Sollecce
41:09I just want to
41:10to point out
41:10how it was
41:12found
41:13and after how long
41:14from the moment in which
41:15it was discovered
41:15this hook
41:16is identified
41:18identified
41:19November 2nd
41:20and subsequently
41:21is found
41:23December 18th
41:24in these 40 days
41:25the hook
41:26remains inside
41:27of the house
41:28but it is found
41:30in a different spot
41:31compared to that
41:32where he had been
41:33identified
41:33at first
41:35really
41:35two meters away
41:36away
41:37so how do you say
41:38that has not been touched
41:39how do you say it?
41:40that there was not
41:41contamination
41:42regardless then
41:43from the fact that
41:47one of which
41:48really
41:49not even verbalized
41:50three times
41:51the police entered
41:52if you see
41:53the photographs
41:54between the first
41:55and the after
41:56I have them here
41:57we can't do them now
41:58show
41:58but the photographs
41:59I'm a scandal
42:00of that room
42:01the room comes
42:02literally
42:02thrown in the air
42:03after which it is found
42:05the hook
42:05three searches
42:07of the police
42:07an unverbalized one
42:09the hook
42:10Dr. Portera
42:11it seemed like the proof
42:12definitive
42:12of guilt
42:13by Raffaele Sollecito
42:14instead then
42:15what happened
42:16briefly
42:16that we have to go
42:17in advertising
42:18in this case too
42:19as for the knife before
42:20the quantity
42:21and the typology
42:22of DNA
42:22it wasn't enough
42:24why we remember
42:24that on the hook
42:25was not found
42:27the complete DNA
42:28by Sollecito
42:29it was found
42:29only the component
42:31sexual Y
42:31that anyway
42:33did not provide
42:34a compatibility
42:35full
42:35with the suspect
42:37for which
42:37this incompatibility
42:39he didn't have then
42:40obviously allowed
42:41to be able to carry
42:42the test ahead
42:42in the various processes
42:44always very serious
42:44our doctor Portera
42:45Thank you
42:46six years later
42:47the murder
42:47by Meredith
42:48the cameras
42:49of Yellow Line
42:49they entered
42:50in the house
42:51by Meredith
42:52at the crime scene
42:53who lives there
42:54Now
42:54you'll see it soon
42:55on the Yellow Line
42:56stay with us
42:59it wasn't enough
43:00change address
43:01of the house
43:01to exorcise
43:03the ghost
43:03by Meredith
43:04confirms it to us
43:05Reda
43:06Moroccan student
43:07of Agriculture
43:07nobody wants to come
43:09to avoid here
43:20welcome back live
43:21on the Yellow Line
43:22TV viewer friends
43:23we are talking
43:24of the murder
43:25by Meredith
43:26Kercher
43:27yes it is so much
43:27talked about Amanda
43:29of its ambiguity
43:30and the question
43:31in the end
43:31it's always
43:32that
43:33skilled
43:34manipulator
43:35oh Angel
43:36Blond
43:37we hear
43:37as he described
43:38Amanda
43:39a prestigious signature
43:40of the sheet
43:41in his portrait
43:42Anna Lena Benivi
43:42let's listen
43:44Bad fox
43:45this translation
43:46corresponds
43:47to your interpretation
43:48of the word
43:49Foxy Noxy
43:50especially the part
43:52of bad
43:52corresponds
43:52with this character
43:55which was built
43:57to explain
43:58the reasons
44:00of this accusation
44:02that is, that I am
44:04a crazy woman
44:05murderer
44:06liar
44:09many other words
44:10what can I say
44:11but I am
44:11swear words
44:12Therefore
44:14Amanda
44:15study writing
44:16creative
44:17in Seattle
44:17she's thinner
44:18of then
44:19richer
44:204 million
44:21of dollars
44:22in advance
44:22for his
44:23autobiography
44:24release in America
44:25Waiting to be heard
44:27one million
44:28for each year
44:29in prison
44:29in Italy
44:30to want to search
44:31compensation
44:32and if he owned
44:33an innocence
44:34he lost it forever
44:35his words
44:37now they are measured
44:38suspicious
44:39eyes always downcast
44:41in interviews
44:42on television
44:43tears are alive
44:45but held back
44:46she is free
44:47Almost
44:48she has a boyfriend
44:50for a year and a half
44:51he has again
44:52a life
44:53he has panic attacks
44:55but his acquittal
44:56it was cancelled
44:57last March
44:58from the Court of Cassation
44:59her roommate
45:01Meredith
45:02he won't come back
45:03to tell her
45:03to always clean
45:04the sink
45:05of the bathroom
45:05with the sponge
45:06as he did then
45:08when both
45:09they were experimenting
45:09freedom
45:10a piece of the world
45:12he considers it
45:13a murderer
45:14how to kill
45:16your best friend
45:17and live happily
45:18it's the subtitle
45:19that many
45:19they would like to apply
45:21to the memoir
45:22by Amanda Knox
45:22it was summer
45:24of 2007
45:25in Perugia
45:26the summer
45:26of an American
45:2720 years old
45:28abroad
45:28with the English friend
45:30the holidays
45:31sex
45:31marijuana
45:32and all things
45:33that shouldn't be done
45:35and that therefore
45:36it must be done
45:37Amanda's operation
45:38it's precise
45:39show the world
45:40above all
45:41to what continues
45:42to consider it
45:43Venus in fur
45:45the devil
45:46with the face of an angel
45:47the murderer
45:48with sexual perversions
45:49that his life
45:51from millennials
45:51it's life
45:52of all her peers
45:54that she is innocent
45:56just like them
45:57a naive American
45:59with a confused sense
46:00of absolute freedom
46:02who reads Harry Potter
46:03in the bars of Perugia
46:05he asks for a mocha
46:06and on the train
46:07from Milan to Florence
46:08meet your partner
46:09of his first
46:10one night stand
46:11where you get herpes
46:13casual sex
46:15for my generation
46:16it was simply
46:17what was done
46:18he wrote in the book
46:21not only innocent
46:23in a legal sense
46:24writes the New Yorker
46:25that compares
46:26reckless innocence
46:27by Amanda
46:27to that of the protagonist
46:29of Portrait of a Lady
46:30by Henry James
46:31but also in a moral sense
46:33a blonde girl
46:35he greets his loving parents
46:36and goes to discover the world
46:38with the innocent project
46:40to make a lot of noise
46:41like Isabella Archer
46:43of Portrait of a Lady
46:45young American
46:46who moves to Europe
46:48and wants to experiment
46:49the variety of the world
46:50he wants to choose
46:52one's own destiny
46:53I didn't know well
46:55how to become myself
46:57writes Amanda Knox
46:58and I still had
46:59a childish vision
47:01of people
47:02he wanted to please everyone
47:04he was having sex
47:05not out of obsession
47:06and not even for love
47:07but for experiment
47:09I couldn't have predicted
47:11that my private
47:12uncertain experiment
47:13would have become
47:15my downfall
47:15that they would have accused her
47:17to buy for Zoma
47:19the next day
47:19Meredith's death
47:20there were a couple
47:22of pink underwear
47:23with printed
47:24the comic
47:24of a cow
47:25the house was barred
47:27and I had nothing
47:28to change me
47:29and they would have portrayed her
47:30like a dark lady
47:32cutthroat
47:33in this book
47:34Amanda Knox
47:35he supports
47:36that in that summer
47:37of 2007
47:38the summer of his
47:39twenty years
47:40she was little more than
47:41that a modern girl
47:43which he exercised
47:44like many others
47:44like almost all of them
47:46like Meredith
47:47from the rest
47:48Amanda writes
47:49emotional disengagement
47:50with naivety
47:51life as it comes
47:53and freedom
47:55as a common desire
47:56in a way
47:58elusive
47:59and tangled
48:00but that
48:01represents
48:01the confusion
48:02and the lightness
48:03of an entire generation
48:04his
48:05Amanda's message
48:07And
48:08I'm like you
48:09you are like me
48:10so yours
48:12innocence
48:12it's mine too
48:15it's like this
48:15Sara Viola
48:16his innocence
48:17it's ours too
48:19Surely
48:20Amanda is part of
48:21of his generation
48:21embodies it perfectly
48:23all the vices
48:24and all the virtues
48:25let's not forget
48:27but that
48:27to take drugs
48:28have sex freely
48:29get herpes
48:30at the first meeting
48:31it doesn't do you any favors
48:32a murderer
48:32Certainly
48:33it puts you
48:34in a bad light
48:36and brings out
48:37that part
48:37noir of you
48:38that in a situation
48:39like that one
48:40of a crime
48:40then he doesn't play you
48:41Professor Mastronardi
48:42Amanda and Meredith
48:44they were two girls
48:45that they shared
48:46the same experience
48:48far from home
48:49may have taken over
48:50jealousy
48:51envy
48:51among themselves?
48:53Surely
48:53from the documents
48:55of the process
48:56appears
48:56a
48:57a claim
49:00That
49:00Meredith
49:01he was doing
49:01usually
49:02against Amanda
49:03but if
49:03he reproached him
49:04three things
49:05first
49:05the fact that he smoked
49:07two
49:07the fact that he was carrying
49:08strange friends at home
49:10and three
49:10the fact that he didn't clean
49:12so anyway
49:13a certain rivalry
49:15there was
49:15but we can say
49:17which was a rivalry
49:18that had nothing to do with it
49:20then at the bottom
49:20actually
49:21with
49:23with the commission
49:25of a crime
49:26that's what can happen
49:28in any house
49:29so I wouldn't want to
49:30that what we are saying
49:31Now
49:32be glimpsed
49:33as guilt
49:35of one
49:35or the other person
49:36I am a guarantor
49:37until the last moment
49:39I saw the lawyer Mastro
49:40nod
49:41friend of Raffaele Sollecito
49:43they were two boys
49:43normal
49:44like many others
49:45hello beautiful
49:46but also
49:47too much
49:48normal
49:48the problem is that
49:50in being
49:51to watch
49:52all this
49:53media career
49:54the people
49:55not being able to
49:56to hook up
49:57or not being able to
49:58know the cards
49:59she had fun
50:00to evaluate
50:02very normal behaviors
50:04as even
50:05reasons
50:06for a brutal
50:06crime
50:07a girl
50:08very normal
50:09among other things
50:10that argues
50:11some time
50:12why are you looking
50:12that the students
50:13if anyone lives
50:14if anyone has experience
50:15he understands it
50:16the female students
50:17at home
50:17they always have
50:18some disagreements
50:19not for this reason
50:20then you decide
50:20to bring your boyfriend
50:21for an orgy
50:22to stab her
50:23in the end
50:23it seems a bit
50:24an exaggeration
50:24which was not to be evaluated
50:26they have passed
50:26six years
50:27from death
50:28by Meredith
50:28Kercher
50:29and in Perugia
50:30six years later
50:30we went back there
50:32we're back
50:32in the house
50:34by Meredith
50:34in the scene
50:36of the crime
50:37that story
50:38it's still
50:38a living memory
50:39for the boys
50:40from Perugia
50:41foreigners and non-foreigners
50:42our correspondent
50:43Martino Villosio
50:56you know
50:57what happened
50:58in this house
51:00here it is
51:01six years later
51:02the house where
51:03he got lost
51:03the last cry
51:04by Meredith
51:05six years ago
51:06Oh mama
51:11within the walls
51:12which hosted
51:13Meredith and Amanda
51:14the holidays
51:15the music
51:15friends
51:16today welcomes us
51:17a Bengali family
51:18here are the rooms
51:20some Italian roommates
51:21by Amanda and Meredith
51:22the bathroom
51:23in which Rudy Gede
51:24left traces
51:26of one's presence
51:27at home
51:28on this corridor
51:30one next to the other
51:31Amanda's room
51:33and Meredith's
51:35locked
51:39it wasn't enough
51:41change address
51:42of the house
51:42to exorcise
51:43the ghost
51:44by Meredith
51:46confirms it to us
51:47Reda
51:47Moroccan student
51:48of Agriculture
51:49he lives right there
51:50under the apartment
51:51of the crime
51:52I saw an ad
51:54without photo
51:55of a house
51:57what does it cost?
51:58150 euros
51:58the room
51:59me first
52:00I didn't believe it
52:01why 150 euros
52:02a room
52:03for today
52:03it doesn't exist for me
52:06Nobody
52:06he wants to come
52:07to live here
52:09he went up every day
52:11these ladders
52:11Meredith
52:12a few meters away
52:13from the house
52:13there is the university
52:14for foreigners
52:15from Perugia
52:16the few female students
52:17English
52:18that continue
52:18to arrive
52:19they know well
52:20what happened
52:21in this city
52:42many things
52:43they have changed
52:44in six years
52:45it closed for example
52:46Patrick Lumumba's pub
52:47where Amanda worked
52:49the female students
52:51that arrive
52:51from the United States
52:52they don't like it
52:53the comparison is too much
52:54with Knox
52:58no excess
52:59no rush
53:00or transgression
53:01in Perugia
53:01the girls swear
53:03Americans
53:03in front of the camera
53:04we listened
53:05but it's not something
53:06that we participate
53:07in
53:07I come to class
53:08I'm going with my friends
53:10I do my job
53:12studying
53:13What are you doing
53:14during grandmother's
53:15normally
53:16um
53:18slept
53:18normally
53:21my name is Sam
53:23no my name
53:24Sam
53:25Sam
53:25it's not straight
53:26first anyway
53:28before going for a walk
53:29if they stop there bars
53:30if they already stop the charge
53:34but he drank too much
53:38we do things
53:40that not
53:41do we ever do
53:42in the United States
53:43or
53:44the case
53:45from the
53:45Amanda Rock
53:47about this thing
53:50the high
53:52the joints
53:52on the stairs of the Duomo
53:53the parties
53:54and the legends
53:55bloom around Amanda
53:56Perugia
53:57that has always been
53:58welcomes foreign students
53:59she feels damaged
54:01from the Meredith case
54:01and slowly
54:03he's trying
54:04to forget
54:06Meredith Kercher
54:08does that mean something to you?
54:11who is?
54:13Nothing
54:14Nothing
54:16Nothing
54:17you know
54:18who was
54:19Meredith Kercher?
54:21No
54:32for these Chinese students
54:34Meredith Kercher
54:35she is a stranger
54:36what disturbs them is instead
54:38the death of one of their
54:38compatriot
54:39who studied in Perugia
54:40and she drowned
54:41last summer
54:42in Lake Trasimeno
54:43Perhaps
54:44he had taken drugs
54:45Meredith
54:46and his sad fate
54:47they scored
54:48deeply the city
54:50but also in Perugia
54:51life goes on
54:52the students are coming
54:54foreigners
54:55because it offers you
54:57a quiet environment
54:59to study
55:03you look a lot alike
55:05to Meredith
55:05to this very student
55:06It is not true
55:07I was sorry
55:08his story
55:09when I heard it
55:11but
55:12this didn't stop you
55:14to come to Perugia
55:15Anyway
55:15let's say
55:16No
55:16I'm enough
55:17be careful
55:18before coming
55:20you were a little worried
55:21from this story
55:22by Meredith
55:22or not
55:23me yes
55:24Why
55:25I informed myself
55:27on the internet
55:28I read
55:29many things
55:30but
55:30yes now
55:32after having lived there
55:34for a while
55:35Yes
55:39This
55:40the story
55:41of ours
55:41Villose
55:42here in the studio
55:42At that time
55:42after six years
55:43since Meredith's death
55:45what has changed
55:46in Perugia
55:46how did you see her change
55:47Perugia
55:48let's say
55:49it has changed
55:50deeply
55:51in his report
55:53with foreign students
55:55that is to say
55:55foreign students
55:56there are a few less
55:58especially for example
55:59who come from the United Kingdom
56:00from Great Britain
56:01American female students
56:03there are still some
56:03I've seen a lot of them
56:04around
56:05and I have to say that
56:06Yes
56:07It is true
56:07you can breathe an air
56:08perhaps more melancholic
56:10on Corso Vannucci
56:11the premises
56:12which hosted
56:13life
56:14by Amanda
56:15by Meredith
56:15by Raffaele
56:16they are a little more empty
56:17but
56:18I must also say
56:19That
56:19all in all
56:20this vocation
56:22at the reception
56:23of foreign students
56:24Perugia
56:24he kept it
56:25and the place
56:26the Merlin
56:26in which Meredith
56:27he spent
56:28the night of Alloghi
56:29before being killed
56:30it was full
56:30of students
56:31Erasmus
56:31with entry prohibited
56:33to the Italians
56:34moreover
56:34thanks Villosio
56:35Daniele Protti
56:36that house
56:37Meredith's house
56:38it suddenly became
56:39the center
56:40of interest
56:42of televisions
56:42from all over the world
56:43Why
56:44this case
56:45more than others
56:46maybe it has become
56:47this great phenomenon
56:48media
56:49which we witnessed
56:50well why
56:54Perugia
56:55from
56:55many decades
56:57it's the city
56:59on which they converge
57:00lots of students
57:01foreigners
57:03Now
57:04not only Westerners
57:06as he reminded me
57:07Now
57:08but also
57:08oriental
57:09Chinese
57:10in particular
57:12inevitably
57:13At that time
57:14a crime
57:15as it was told
57:17etc.
57:18attracts attention
57:19it doesn't seem like it to me
57:20that it is
57:20nothing in particular
57:22new
57:23Then
57:23Certain
57:24it lends itself
57:25there was a joke
57:27before it was made
57:28it's still spinning
57:30lots of drugs
57:31and this
57:32Perhaps
57:33it's a thing
57:34which should be reported
57:35to the police
57:37I don't rule it out
57:39that the police
57:39know exactly
57:40what's happening
57:41in Perugia
57:42Maori Lawyer
57:44the last word
57:45to her
57:46I ask you
57:46Why
57:47in your opinion
57:47Raffaele Sollecito
57:48that we heard
57:49he spoke first
57:50yellow line
57:51must be acquitted
57:52quick
57:53must be acquitted
57:54because he is innocent
57:55because he did not commit
57:56no crime
57:57nor even less
57:58such a serious crime
57:59and brutal
58:00because he is a good person
58:02why it has to be
58:04returned
58:05his life
58:05Attorney Maresca
58:07I think it's still connected
58:08what do you expect?
58:09to the family
58:09by Meredith
58:12Yes
58:13Well
58:14the main desire
58:16I think
58:17that's what it is
58:17to remember
58:19finally
58:19Meredith
58:20out
58:21from the classrooms
58:22of justice
58:23and then
58:24to put
58:24a word
58:26end
58:26and to ascertain
58:28definitively
58:29the responsibility
58:30of the murder
58:31of their daughter
58:32Therefore
58:32I think that
58:33above all
58:34they wait
58:35the definitive one
58:36clarity
58:36on responsibility
58:38for this murder
58:39Thank you
58:39Thank you
58:40to Attorney Maresca
58:41other girls
58:42other stories
58:43Thank you
58:43thank you all
58:44thank you all
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