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00:00:0417 years of horrors, 16 victims and 3 convicts disappeared together with their secrets,

00:00:11but the case of the Monster of Florence is far from closed.

00:00:57Thanks for watching!

00:01:04Here we are on the hills of Mugello, a few kilometers behind me is Vicchio,

00:01:10a large village of about 8,000 inhabitants, one of those quiet places where nothing ever happens.

00:01:18On July 29, 1984, that is, exactly 37 years ago, in this little path that leads into

00:01:27A Panda enters the forest with two boys on board, his name is Claudio Stefanacci

00:01:35and her name is Pierontini, he is 21, she is 18, she works as a barmaid, looking at their photograph

00:01:40they really look like two kids.

00:01:45The Panda arrives here and stops here, it arrives keeping its nose facing the road.

00:01:54Here are the two crosses that remember them, Claudio and Pia. They came all the way here to stay a while.

00:02:03alone

00:02:03and for half an hour they remain inside the Panda, convinced that no one is spying on them.

00:02:09But that's not the case. There's definitely someone behind these brambles, certainly a person, a shadow.

00:02:17and this shadow decides that it is the right time to attack them.

00:02:27First of all he goes to the side of the driver's seat where Claudio is sitting and shoots him three times,

00:02:35one of which has a deadly back of the neck. Then he attacks him by opening the door.

00:02:43with a diving knife, he stabs him several times in the chest, stomach, and legs. Pia is still alive, she is

00:02:49terrified.

00:02:52When the shadow opens the door he shoots her too. He definitely shoots her three times, one of them under the

00:03:01cheekbone,

00:03:01But Pia doesn't die immediately. The shadow grabs her, pulls her out of the car, and drags her through this passage.

00:03:09amidst the brambles that leads to a field. Here he places her lying on the ground with her arms outstretched.

00:03:20and does what he came here to do. With the knife he first removes her left breast and then

00:03:29the pubis.

00:03:30They are the fetishes that he always collects every time he commits a crime and they are the ones that make him come

00:03:37at the height of satisfaction. The shadow had already struck, before Claudio and Pia, twelve other times.

00:03:45Six couples.

00:03:48He has a nickname, a scary nickname, especially on full moon nights like this one,

00:03:54the monster of Florence.

00:04:07Florence at night during the pandemic is under curfew, a ghostly, deserted city,

00:04:15certainly very different from normality, from the life that one normally manages to express.

00:04:22this city at this moment is having a great difficulty in giving the possibility to show

00:04:30the treasures he builds inside these magnificent palaces, inside the museums and the city of the Renaissance.

00:04:37So there is something missing right now, it's not just people, but it's the possibility

00:04:44to come into contact with the great culture of Florence.

00:04:53We are in Piazza degli Strozzi and if you now look at the facade of Palazzo Strozzi you will see

00:05:01This installation was created by J.R., a famous French artist and who wants to

00:05:11symbolically show how impossible access to culture is at this time.

00:05:17It's like a wound on the palace.

00:05:25It is an installation that tries to show that beyond the closed door there is something

00:05:32something extraordinary that unfortunately cannot be seen at the moment, but there is also another

00:05:37wound in this city that has been removed, a wound that is not easy to talk about and that

00:05:44has to do with the Monster of Florence. A story that begins, think about it, 53 years ago in

00:05:541968, half a century, and yet the story is far from over.

00:06:17Putting together all the segments of the various investigations that have followed in this

00:06:23half a century of history of the Monster of Florence is practically impossible.

00:06:30Imagine hundreds of tip-offs, thousands of anonymous letters, surely dozens if not

00:06:38hundreds of suspects, each time with the certainty of having almost reached the objective

00:06:45and then see the trail we were working on vanish. The last investigation was

00:06:54archived in November 2020. At the center of this investigation was a former soldier of the

00:07:02Foreign Legion, a very dark and questionable character called Giampiero Vigilanti

00:07:10together with a doctor, Francesco Caccamo. They were exonerated, but the real point is that when

00:07:18the magistrate closed, he archived this investigation, he wanted to clarify that this is not

00:07:24It means that the investigation cannot be reopened, while there is another one going on in parallel

00:07:30of the investigation which is still open, is the one for the diversion, even if there are no

00:07:35investigated. In short, if we want to draw conclusions from these last two judicial chapters, we must

00:07:44to say that even the magistrates, even if they cannot state it clearly, do not entirely believe in the

00:07:52the fact that those three companions are actually the monster of Florence, but that

00:07:59They were probably laborers, executors at the service of a certain level

00:08:06superior who has never been investigated and of course never discovered.

00:08:26And since we have introduced this top level theme, which is a fundamental theme

00:08:33in this story, let's put aside for a moment the assumptions that were made on the basis of

00:08:38which were suspected that the monster could be a surgeon accustomed to handling the

00:08:45scalpel, rather than a butcher who knew how to use knives, I'll tell you a story

00:08:53and you have to pay close attention to the dates and details. It's 1990, the monster has stopped

00:09:02of killing for five years and the police stop a young man on the street who, by chance,

00:09:10he is the son of Giampiero Vigilanti, the former legionary who was exonerated, who came out

00:09:17from the investigation into the Monster of Florence. This boy has a gun with him, a caliber

00:09:251909 and he doesn't know how to explain where it comes from, his version is incredible, he says I had it

00:09:34from a military intelligence man who told me to take it to another agent

00:09:40of the services, but does not give the name of either one. 1993, during a search

00:09:52which is done in an apartment on Via Sant'Agostino here in Florence, over the course of some

00:09:58During renovation work, an arsenal, weapons, ammunition and even some cans were discovered.

00:10:07with a hole in the cap to insert a fuse identical to those used in the period of the

00:10:13Terror strategy on trains. Be careful because this apartment on Via Sant'Agostino

00:10:20for decades it was a covert headquarters of the SISMI, the military secret service, and it operated there

00:10:28the center leader who was Colonel Federigo Mannucci, well at home, involved in the cover-ups

00:10:36for the Ustica massacre and the Bologna massacre, as well as for other events. Well, in this

00:10:43In the arsenal there is also a box with 25 Winchester Lot H bullets, exactly the same ones

00:10:53used by the Monster of Florence to load his .22 caliber pistol, a gun that has never been used

00:10:59was found. But in that year, 1993, all attention was focused on Pacciani.

00:11:07and his companions. So this discovery goes unnoticed until January of

00:11:132021 an investigation by the Nazione of Florence, the newspaper of this city, brings to light

00:11:20This discovery and finally these bullets are taken into charge by the Scientific Police

00:11:26which now has to ascertain whether they actually form part of the ammunition or not

00:11:32used by the Monster of Florence. In short, this story, which seems like a side story,

00:11:40and which perhaps has nothing to do with the Monster of Florence, but instead indicates something

00:11:45I mean, that is, in this country when you try to get to a higher level of

00:11:53a massacre, a murder, a crime or even a series of crimes such as

00:11:59those of the Monster of Florence, here everything mixes together and becomes a kind of dust

00:12:05within which it is difficult to distinguish the truth. On the other hand, even the banner

00:12:11on the balcony of Palazzo Vecchio tells us something symbolically about this lack of

00:12:18Justice and truth. Look, justice for Giulio Reggeni, freedom for Patrick Zacchi,

00:12:26something we can't quite grasp yet.

00:12:35Good evening, it is curious, not to say surprising, that this horrendous story of serial crimes

00:12:44unique in its kind has ended up in the deck of great Italian mysteries. With a small group

00:12:53of maniacs, condemned semi-illiterates, with an incredible series of diversions, of errors

00:13:00judicial, but above all with the suspicion that they never wanted to get to the truth

00:13:07more complex to protect someone. And in fact the story we will tell this evening will not be

00:13:14simply a very detailed reconstruction that you will see of everything that happened,

00:13:21It will not only be a memory, but an attempt to delve deeper into what has not been done and is

00:13:28could do to identify the existence of this higher level, which in a nutshell

00:13:36What does it mean? It means that the Monster of Florence, the real monster, has never been

00:13:42identified. Carlo Lucarelli, good evening. Good evening. Carlo Lucarelli, writer, screenwriter,

00:13:53TV host, you have been dealing with this story of the Monster of Florence for a long time and now

00:14:00I'll put it back to you like this, somehow on the table, because after so many years and now we're just

00:14:07at the beginning of the story we are telling this evening, but perhaps already a few more elements

00:14:13you have it. To be able to tell us what idea you have formed, that is, after so many years, what do you think of the monster of

00:14:21Florence

00:14:22and what about this matter which objectively cannot be considered closed?

00:14:29In the meantime I think that yes, it is not closed, because in fact there are still many doubts, many

00:14:36question marks, we have to ask ourselves why we haven't discovered certain things before, why

00:14:41we discovered them later, many characters belonging to

00:14:46many categories, some of which are particularly well known in what we call the mysteries

00:14:51of Italy and you know it better than me when a story, even if apparently newsworthy like

00:14:56this one, of murdered people, of a serial killer in short, is a story when it brings with it

00:15:02a whole series of question marks is what we rightly or wrongly call a mystery

00:15:08Italian. I've got the idea that there's another level, which I think Pacciani, Vanni, and Lotti

00:15:14they are the companions of the snacks, there are many clues, many proofs, many testimonies

00:15:19against them, but only these three people killed like that because they felt like it

00:15:25in a particular way because they were just serial killers, I don't believe in all those people,

00:15:29I also think that there could be a second level, an esoteric set, something, that

00:15:33had somehow governed his companions at the picnic and had perhaps enjoyed certain

00:15:40protections or at least was so good and so intelligent to divert, to mislead

00:15:44even the investigations. In short, perhaps it is more correct to say not the monster of Florence but the monsters of

00:15:49Florence. Listen Carlo, that's what we actually said and in my opinion we're right about that.

00:15:56the fact that this story is an integral part of the great Italian mysteries because if

00:16:02let's put together the various lines of investigation that have intersected, let's say, the main one

00:16:08of the investigation that then led to the arrest of Pacciani, Lotti etc. well, in short, we cross-reference the services

00:16:15secrets, we cross paths with Freemasonry and above all we must take into account those who are called

00:16:22the so-called collateral damage which amounts to at least a dozen more deaths

00:16:29in addition to the 16 that have been attributed to the Monster of Florence and this brings to mind precisely

00:16:38the contaminated investigations of Ustica, of Bologna, of the Piazza Fontana massacre, that is, the level

00:16:45real instigators, right? There's something, that is, it's not just a problem of covering a level

00:16:52superior, let's say social, but there's something more, there are also some institutional hands

00:16:59or parainstitutional entities that have entered into this story?

00:17:05Well there could be many things of course, they are all investigations, they are all hypotheses, it's true

00:17:11that there are a lot of deaths surrounding the story of Merende's companions, there are people

00:17:17who knew them, there are prostitutes who operated in that area, there are other characters,

00:17:22It is true that this is a story that is also intertwined with a very violent environment as it was

00:17:26that of the crime that was moving around those places in that period in the parts

00:17:32of Florence, so it is true that certain people may have been killed for completely different reasons,

00:17:36but it's also true that these mysteries exist, there are many people who died, who died in a strange way

00:17:40strange, here too we witness those strange suicides that we saw in Ustica

00:17:44or in other situations where there is someone who hanged himself by touching the ground, in short,

00:17:51I don't know what could be behind it of course, but it makes you think badly and as someone said

00:17:58who knew a lot about thinking badly, you're almost always right.

00:18:03Listen, stay there because now we start telling the story, because if we don't get into it

00:18:08inside we cannot extrapolate all the dark points and so we begin

00:18:14to see what was the first crime attributed to the Monster of Florence which dates back to

00:18:20to 1968, that is, a whopping 53 years ago and it is a crime that even on that crime we

00:18:32there are many doubts as to whether it was really the first in the series of crimes

00:18:38of the Monster of Florence. Stay with us and watch.

00:18:47Florence 1981 is a time when many young couples still seek intimacy on the seat

00:18:55rear of the cars, hidden among the foliage in the rolling hills surrounding the city. Soon

00:19:02Some of these boys will find a gruesome death at the hands of assassins whose network of

00:19:08supporters has never been fully revealed thanks to institutional cover-ups, misdirections

00:19:14and manipulation of information. Now with photos and documentation never revealed, we can

00:19:26bring you closer to the terrible truth.

00:19:42It's the night of June 6th, a new moon night. For Giovanni Foggi and Carmela Denuccio this

00:19:50country road near the Anastasia nightclub in Mosciano di Scandicci

00:19:56becomes a place of horror and death. Their bodies are found the next day by the

00:20:02police. They were killed by gunshots with .22 caliber bullets with an H stamped on them.

00:20:10at the bottom of the cartridges. The girl's cube was removed, this is news from before.

00:20:15page and a quick solution to the crime is immediately sought. A well-known voyeur is arrested.

00:20:27of the area which according to the investigators knows a little too much, but an anonymous phone call to

00:20:33His wife predicts that he will soon be released from prison and that is what happens.

00:20:44Four months later, on October 22, 1981, Stefano Baldi and Susanna Cambi were murdered in

00:20:53Travalle di Calenzano. She too is mutilated. The murderer leaves a boot print in the mud.

00:21:00number 44.

00:21:24Another New Moon night, June 19, 1982, sees the first

00:21:31Monster's mistake. Paolo Mainardi and Antonella Migliorini make love in the car near the

00:21:38road leading to Baccaiano, south of San Casciano. They just finished and he moved on.

00:21:44behind the wheel when he sees something that scares him. He puts it into reverse but crosses the road.

00:21:50and ends up in the ditch on the other side. The murderer shoots at the headlights and then at Paolo and Antonella.

00:22:02However, the car is exposed to traffic and the monster does not mutilate the victim.

00:22:13The murder of Paolo Mainardi and Antonella Migliorini is the monster's third double homicide. But

00:22:21now someone remembers another similar fact, eight years earlier, committed in 1974. Another

00:22:28A couple was killed in Mugello between Borgo San Lorenzo and Vicchio. Two young men were massacred that time.

00:22:46in their Fiat 127. He was wounded by five .22 caliber bullets, she was shot

00:22:54screwdriver and awl. The girl's pubic area is not removed, but a

00:23:00a vine shoot in her vagina. Her body was tortured by blows from an awl, 90 times.

00:23:06in the pubic area and left breast. A farmer found their bodies in the morning.

00:23:11next. Investigators believe there may be more than one attacker.

00:23:22Then, incredibly, an anonymous letter prompts investigators to connect the murders.

00:23:28with a further crime that occurred way back in 1968. Miraculously, what remained of the bullets

00:23:36It is still attached to the folder. An anomalous situation since after the sentences the evidence should be

00:23:42destroyed, as the culprit was found, tried and imprisoned. The experts

00:23:47they declare that the bullets were fired from the same weapon as the crimes of '81 and '82.

00:23:56A jealous husband, Stefano Mele, convicted of killing his wife and her lover, at the time

00:24:02had implicated the Sardinian shepherd Francesco Vinci and his brother Salvatore. After the crime

00:24:08In 1982, Francesco Vinci was arrested on charges of being the custodian of the weapon

00:24:13of the crime. This opens the so-called Sardinian trail, which puts under the magnifying glass a gang

00:24:18criminal who is also involved in kidnappings. The Vinci brothers frequent them

00:24:24the same environments, but then Francesco Vinci will be released from prison because on September 9th of

00:24:301983 the monster strikes again and the Sardinian track turns out to be a flop.

00:24:42German tourists Jens-Uwe Rüsch and Horst Willenmeier park their Volkswagen camper van

00:24:50in a vineyard in front of the Villa della Sfacciata north of San Casciano.

00:25:07They are found the next evening by a German, Rolf Reinecke, who lives behind the cheeky house.

00:25:14They were killed in their camper. They were shot through the rear window.

00:25:19while they were sleeping. Some pornographic magazines for homosexuals were found scattered near

00:25:26to the van. The crime provides an important clue. The monster must be at least 10 feet tall.

00:25:33six feet to allow for the trajectories of the shots that killed the Germans. If the

00:25:39monster is only one person it cannot be Francesco Vinci because at the time of the double

00:25:45The murderer is in prison. The Sardinian, however, will return to be part of this story, just like the German.

00:25:51Rolf Reinecke, but in the meantime the terror created by the so-called monster begins to affect life

00:25:58of the young people of the province of Florence. The atmosphere that was felt was certainly a climate

00:26:04Both in the cities and in the countryside where it struck, a climate of fear prevailed. Young people in those years

00:26:13they had acquired different habits, so going into the countryside represented a danger.

00:26:21In the city especially I can testify as I lived in Florence. There were some

00:26:28real organizations to seclude themselves and therefore the way of life had changed precisely because

00:26:34a general danger was perceived

00:26:57And well, there was even an advert warning the kids

00:27:03not to go alone to isolated areas, in the middle of the woods and let's say there was a psychosis

00:27:13in fact, it had trapped not only Florence but the entire province of Florence.

00:27:21Carlo Lucarelli, so in a country where there is a habit, let's say, of making finds disappear

00:27:29in the investigations, coincidentally there is an evidence here, those two cartridge cases from the first crime

00:27:36which could have been destroyed and instead were sensationally found inside the file

00:27:43and from there, let's say, starts the whole chain that connects that double homicide to the others

00:27:54murders that will then be committed later. Is that already a rather strange thing?

00:28:02Yes, yes it's strange, oh God there can be so many coincidences, of course but yes, it's strange, it makes you think

00:28:08and that's certainly not the only oddity that obviously exists in this type of investigation.

00:28:15but yes, it certainly makes you think.

00:28:17Listen, one more thing, so if we put aside the crimes, the double crime of '68

00:28:24when instead we go to the late 70s and early 80s

00:28:28our investigators have become very skilled investigators

00:28:34because they had to deal with terrorism which was a terrible school

00:28:40but in short a great school that has made them become an excellence in the world

00:28:46in short, even today we say those who have had field experience with terrorism

00:28:51is able to have mental tools and not only

00:28:56more than investigators from other countries

00:29:00and yet look at that and now we'll see it

00:29:04In almost all crimes, glaring errors are committed

00:29:11crime scenes are contaminated

00:29:14that is, it is done, we also saw that footprint of Scarpone number 44

00:29:20but we'll come back to that now

00:29:21that is, they are committed above all

00:29:24since we are talking about eight double homicides and this psychosis

00:29:30coincidentally every time the investigators arrive on site

00:29:34they cause trouble

00:29:35how is this possible?

00:29:38well there could be many explanations obviously

00:29:42and they are all very mysterious

00:29:43but it's true that in that period there

00:29:45our investigators are very good

00:29:48in dealing with terrorism and even the mafia

00:29:50but they are different types of investigations

00:29:52It is true that in Italy until the mid-90s

00:29:56there is no culture of the serial killer

00:29:59we say certain things here

00:30:01they don't exist here, they don't happen

00:30:03yes of course there is the monster in Florence but it is a special case

00:30:06It happens a bit like what happens in investigations in other countries

00:30:10until they equip themselves with electronic archives

00:30:13of tools that enable investigations to be compared and contrasted

00:30:18as long as everyone investigates their own business

00:30:21there's always a mess going on

00:30:22It is also true that there is no high-level scientific police

00:30:25because the foundations of the scientific police are being created

00:30:28which we will know later

00:30:29there is no DNA etc. etc.

00:30:31It's also true that that is a very small area though.

00:30:34Now it's not like the United States is where Ted Bundy can roam.

00:30:38from Florida to California

00:30:41it's a very small area

00:30:43In that area, in fact, some huge mistakes are made

00:30:45It was only in 1985-84 that the anti-monster team was created

00:30:50and when the investigators arrive who want to find out things

00:30:54in short, that I am able to discover things

00:30:56because they are detectives in the detective novel

00:30:58Vincenzo Perugini and then Michele Giuttari

00:31:01which then ends up closing the trials on Pacciani etc.

00:31:06well when those people arrive things get done properly

00:31:09things are discovered

00:31:10It's true that for a long time there was a lot of confusion

00:31:14there hasn't been any talk of a murderer, a serial killer for quite a while

00:31:19many mistakes have been made

00:31:20the press also reported many errors

00:31:22which were like saying banalities

00:31:26the footprint and many other things

00:31:29the idea that he was a murderer who was probably a doctor

00:31:33who made surgical cuts

00:31:35they are all rumors

00:31:37things that then cancel each other out

00:31:41and that for a long time are kept as important things

00:31:44so as usual you ask yourself the Italian mysteries

00:31:48they did a bad job in the investigations

00:31:50or was there something that made things not work out?

00:31:54Well, there was something and now we'll find out.

00:31:56the amazing thing is that in fact

00:32:00let's say the symbolism, the way, the modality with which

00:32:06this serial killer behaves

00:32:08It's a very difficult modality to match

00:32:12with that of the three companions of snacks

00:32:15but now we're getting there

00:32:16because even the Italian police

00:32:18at some point he will turn to the FBI

00:32:21but let's see what happened

00:32:24especially in the monster's last two crimes

00:32:27the most ferocious

00:32:28why it is important to go into details

00:32:30and then let's try to delve deeper into them

00:32:34so stay with us

00:32:35because we see another little piece of this reconstruction

00:32:44July 29, 1984

00:32:47Claudio Stefanacci and Pia Rontini

00:32:50they are massacred in this clearing near Vicchio

00:32:53in Mugello

00:32:54not far from the scene of the 1974 crime

00:32:58they are hit by the usual .22 caliber bullets

00:33:02and she manages to escape for a few meters

00:33:05before being shot and mutilated

00:33:08this time with the amputation of the left breast

00:33:11beyond the pubis

00:33:12a new clue emerges

00:33:14the girl worked at the bar at the Vicchio station

00:33:18where according to the bartender

00:33:19in the days before a man

00:33:22with a big ring on her finger

00:33:23he had observed the young couple

00:33:31the last murder

00:33:34opens one of the most complex chapters of the story

00:33:45September 6, 1985

00:33:49Nadine Muriot and Jean-Michel Kravishvili

00:33:52they pitch their tent here

00:33:54in the Scopeti square

00:33:56north of San Casciano

00:34:01they arrived from the Ligurian Riviera on the 4th

00:34:04on the evening of Friday the 6th

00:34:06they go to the unity festival in Cerbaia

00:34:09near San Casciano

00:34:10they were attacked between Friday and Sunday night

00:34:14the autopsy will probably say

00:34:16during amorous effusions

00:34:19while she is shot to death

00:34:21Jean-Michel, athlete

00:34:23run away barefoot

00:34:24but gets hit again

00:34:26and then reached by the killer

00:34:28and stabbed to death

00:34:35for the first time

00:34:36the murderer hides the body

00:34:38but without dragging it

00:34:40and returns to the tent

00:34:42to perform the mutilation

00:34:44of the woman's breast and pubic area

00:34:46the bodies were found on September 9th

00:34:49from a mushroom hunter

00:34:50the many errors made in scientific investigations

00:34:54will hamper the investigation for years to come

00:34:57two bullet ogives

00:34:59ended up in the pillow and duvet

00:35:01they are not collected

00:35:02the woman's body is moved

00:35:05before the arrival of the forensic team

00:35:07and escape the police

00:35:08a handkerchief soaked in blood

00:35:10and surgical gloves

00:35:12which will be at the center of furious controversy

00:35:15even the hour and even the day of death

00:35:18will remain controversial

00:35:20the crime scene is contaminated

00:35:22and the investigation compromised

00:35:24these are the 16 official murders

00:35:28attributed to the so-called Monster of Florence

00:35:30but there are other mysterious crimes

00:35:33connected to that story

00:35:35for the first time on television

00:35:37Luciano Malatesta speaks

00:35:39today a craftsman restorer

00:35:41a direct witness to the monster's adventures

00:35:43who paid a very high price

00:35:45with the violent death of his father

00:35:47of his uncles and sister Milva

00:35:49together with his nephew Mirko

00:35:51all these deaths of the Malatesta family

00:35:54they were left without why

00:35:58Poor Milva

00:35:59she met a terrible end

00:36:00poor thing

00:36:00there is the death penalty

00:36:02for the mistakes you make

00:36:04I can't stand it

00:36:06this is his son

00:36:07I can't stand anyone

00:36:08all young people

00:36:09they died in a terrible way

00:36:11violent

00:36:12someone has to tell the truth

00:36:15but it was actually done

00:36:17set in motion

00:36:18a powerful mechanism

00:36:20of mystification

00:36:21and manipulation

00:36:25yes a powerful mechanism

00:36:27of mystification

00:36:28and manipulation

00:36:29Carlo Lucarelli

00:36:31stay there

00:36:31I'm connecting with

00:36:32the lawyer Chiara Penna

00:36:34Good evening

00:36:36Good evening

00:36:37Thank you

00:36:38who is also a criminologist

00:36:39who studied

00:36:41the monster at the bottom

00:36:41he also dedicated it to him

00:36:43a book

00:36:44and which has concentrated

00:36:47she concentrated a lot

00:36:48on the profile

00:36:50on the figure

00:36:51of this monster

00:36:53as it emerges

00:36:54studying the modalities

00:36:56with which he behaved

00:36:58and also

00:37:00let's say

00:37:01comparing these modes

00:37:03if now then she will be

00:37:04more precise

00:37:05with behaviors

00:37:07of serial killers

00:37:09what do we say?

00:37:10they know each other

00:37:11all over the world

00:37:13then I'll do them right away

00:37:14a question

00:37:15before continuing

00:37:17the story

00:37:18it is possible

00:37:20That

00:37:20This

00:37:22murderer

00:37:23be a murderer

00:37:24group

00:37:25that is, that

00:37:26I am trying to say

00:37:27it's a thing

00:37:27quite curious

00:37:29it has never been heard

00:37:31or almost never heard

00:37:32that a serial killer

00:37:34be in reality

00:37:35multiplied by three

00:37:36as they would have us believe

00:37:38and as we will see

00:37:41Exactly

00:37:42then I have to do

00:37:43necessarily

00:37:44a premise

00:37:44the story of the monster

00:37:46of Florence

00:37:46lend your flank

00:37:48to all these

00:37:49arguments

00:37:50Enough

00:37:51fascinating

00:37:52suggestive

00:37:52but I'm staying still

00:37:54to those who are

00:37:55the scientific evidence

00:37:56to those who are the results

00:37:58which have arrived

00:37:59through

00:38:00the procedural documents

00:38:02and precisely because

00:38:03there is no truth

00:38:04substantial

00:38:05procedural

00:38:06opposable

00:38:06to everyone

00:38:07in a firm manner

00:38:08the matter is still open

00:38:09and I stay still

00:38:10firmly

00:38:11to the idea

00:38:12whether it is

00:38:12of a single

00:38:13and only serial killers

00:38:14who operated

00:38:15since 1968

00:38:17to 1985

00:38:18now all the errors

00:38:20that there have been

00:38:21they are mistakes

00:38:22due

00:38:22to the difficulties

00:38:23objectives

00:38:24so she

00:38:25that is, she is convinced

00:38:27that first crime

00:38:28of 68

00:38:29has been accomplished

00:38:31from the same person

00:38:32which he then accomplished

00:38:33the others

00:38:33yes because

00:38:35yes because

00:38:36I find it very difficult

00:38:37that there was

00:38:38yes the passage

00:38:39of the gun

00:38:39it is admissible

00:38:40but I find it very difficult

00:38:42that there was

00:38:43at the same time

00:38:43the passing of the gun

00:38:45and ammunition

00:38:46it's as if it had been

00:38:47not only

00:38:49transmigrated

00:38:50a whole kit

00:38:51to kill

00:38:52but also

00:38:53as if

00:38:53the gun

00:38:54had some

00:38:55metaphysical power

00:38:56which then

00:38:57pushed

00:38:58somehow

00:38:58the second murderer

00:38:59to act

00:39:00towards

00:39:01of couples

00:39:01Attention

00:39:02in crimes

00:39:03it is read

00:39:03a

00:39:04escalation

00:39:05of violence

00:39:06which is absolutely

00:39:07compatible

00:39:08with the escalation

00:39:09of violence

00:39:10which is recorded

00:39:10in all serial killers

00:39:12by nature

00:39:12last murder

00:39:13and this

00:39:14highlights it

00:39:15not only

00:39:16the consultancy

00:39:17technique

00:39:18which is commissioned

00:39:19Attention

00:39:19from SAM

00:39:20which is the team

00:39:21anti-monster

00:39:21in 1984

00:39:23to the professor

00:39:24De Fazio

00:39:25same SAM

00:39:26led by

00:39:27Roger Perugini

00:39:28which is specialized

00:39:30in serial crimes

00:39:31Roger Perugini

00:39:32studied at Quantico

00:39:33and Ruggero Perugini

00:39:34it's the same

00:39:35which is addressed

00:39:36to the camera

00:39:36speaking directly

00:39:38to the serial killer

00:39:39convinced

00:39:40that it was

00:39:40of a serial killer

00:39:42same thing

00:39:43says the FBI

00:39:43in 1989

00:39:44Therefore

00:39:45they are the same

00:39:46investigators

00:39:47which are concentrated

00:39:49on the serial killer

00:39:50same thing

00:39:51the professor writes

00:39:52Francesco Bruno

00:39:53in his consultancy

00:39:54which is written

00:39:56on commission

00:39:57of the SISDE

00:39:57so be careful

00:39:58nothing strange

00:39:59that the services

00:40:00were interested

00:40:01to the monster

00:40:02because it is absolutely

00:40:03normal

00:40:04that the services

00:40:05secrets

00:40:05they investigated

00:40:06at the same time

00:40:08to the activity

00:40:08that was

00:40:09carrying out the power of attorney

00:40:10because it was about

00:40:11of a problem

00:40:12of national security

00:40:14so it is absolutely

00:40:16possible

00:40:16that they were interested

00:40:17to this

00:40:18one thing

00:40:19is to be interested

00:40:20to the monster

00:40:21other

00:40:21is to have

00:40:22but this

00:40:23he has to decide

00:40:24the scientific police

00:40:25another is to have

00:40:2625 bullets

00:40:27of that kind

00:40:28that I never am

00:40:30let's say

00:40:30were found

00:40:31with a lot

00:40:32so consistent

00:40:33and not to warn

00:40:34the judiciary

00:40:35if it will be confirmed

00:40:36that those are

00:40:37the same

00:40:37used by the monster

00:40:40Exactly

00:40:41you have to see

00:40:41if they are

00:40:42of the same lot

00:40:43because anyway

00:40:43the series bullets

00:40:44H Winchester

00:40:45they are quite common

00:40:46the problem

00:40:47which remains

00:40:48Unfortunately

00:40:48is that

00:40:49it was not found

00:40:50the gun

00:40:50Perhaps

00:40:51Why

00:40:51it seems that

00:40:52from January 2020

00:40:53is

00:40:54to the attention

00:40:55of the judicial authority

00:40:56a Beretta

00:40:5722 caliber

00:40:57which was found

00:40:59and that

00:40:59Perhaps

00:41:00could be

00:41:01the one used

00:41:02from the monster

00:41:03taking a step

00:41:04taking a step

00:41:04backwards

00:41:04to the question

00:41:05initial

00:41:05Excuse me

00:41:06which was

00:41:06found

00:41:07in an area

00:41:08of parking

00:41:09of a highway

00:41:10that's it

00:41:10rusty

00:41:12thrown away

00:41:13but

00:41:14since

00:41:15Now

00:41:15I want it

00:41:17to let in

00:41:17in the part

00:41:18more

00:41:21fascinating

00:41:22of this story

00:41:23what does it have to do with

00:41:24with the reconstruction

00:41:25of the profile

00:41:26of this monster

00:41:27Meaning what

00:41:27what kind of person is he?

00:41:28What

00:41:29what's in his head

00:41:30because it kills

00:41:30in that way

00:41:31with that mode

00:41:33but before we get there

00:41:34we have to do

00:41:35another little piece

00:41:36on the street

00:41:37in the story

00:41:38of what happened

00:41:39so stay there

00:41:40together with Carlo Lucarelli

00:41:47In the following days

00:41:49upon discovery

00:41:49of the bodies

00:41:50by Nadine Moriot

00:41:51and Jean-Michel Cravishvili

00:41:53the monster

00:41:54challenges the investigators

00:41:55send a flap

00:41:57of the left breast

00:41:58by Nadine

00:41:58to Silvia Della Monica

00:42:00a deputy prosecutor

00:42:02who investigated

00:42:02on the first murders

00:42:03but now it is no longer part

00:42:05of the pool

00:42:06the envelope

00:42:07is sent

00:42:08from San Piero

00:42:09in Sieve

00:42:09subsequently

00:42:10three letters arrive

00:42:12to the Florence prosecutor's office

00:42:13addressed to the judges

00:42:15Vineyard

00:42:16Canessa

00:42:16and Flori

00:42:17within

00:42:18some envelopes

00:42:19a surgical glove

00:42:20with inside

00:42:21a bullet

00:42:2222 caliber

00:42:23H series

00:42:24is found

00:42:25in front of the hospital

00:42:26of Ponte Niccheri

00:42:27in Bagno a Ripoli

00:42:28a bullet

00:42:2922 caliber

00:42:30similar to those

00:42:31used in murders

00:42:32then suddenly

00:42:34the murders

00:42:34of the monster

00:42:35they cease

00:42:36but not for this reason

00:42:37the case is closed

00:42:38one of the investigators

00:42:40who has dedicated years

00:42:41to try to shed light

00:42:42in the dark

00:42:43It's Michele Giuttari

00:42:44highly decorated

00:42:46anti-mafia commissioner

00:42:47that since 1995

00:42:49takes back in hand

00:42:50the enormous documentation

00:42:52collected over the years

00:42:53at will

00:42:55of the prosecutor

00:42:55Vineyard

00:42:56I was

00:42:58transferred

00:42:58to the team

00:42:59mobile

00:42:59of Florence

00:43:01that I directed

00:43:01for about

00:43:02eight years

00:43:03and taking an interest

00:43:05in particular

00:43:05the story

00:43:06of the monster

00:43:06of Florence

00:43:07a story

00:43:09which allowed me

00:43:10to do

00:43:11an experience

00:43:13new

00:43:13on a series

00:43:15of double homicides

00:43:17on which

00:43:18I had never

00:43:18had the opportunity

00:43:19to investigate

00:43:21previously

00:43:22which allowed me

00:43:24to give

00:43:25a turning point

00:43:26to this story

00:43:29the carabinieri

00:43:30they collect

00:43:31thousands

00:43:31of pages

00:43:32of information

00:43:33and create

00:43:34a list

00:43:34of 250

00:43:35suspicious people

00:43:37two of these people

00:43:39they are searched

00:43:40in a week

00:43:41from the crime

00:43:42of the brooms

00:43:43the one from 1985

00:43:45at number 31

00:43:47there is Pietro Pacciani

00:43:49resident in Mercatale

00:43:50violent

00:43:51sex maniac

00:43:52that shortly thereafter

00:43:53in '87

00:43:54he will be imprisoned

00:43:55to have

00:43:56repeatedly

00:43:57raped

00:43:58the daughters

00:43:58known as

00:43:59the blaze

00:44:00it is original

00:44:01from Vicchio

00:44:02place

00:44:02of the penultimate

00:44:03crime

00:44:03the murders

00:44:05of the monster

00:44:06they have

00:44:09of the differences

00:44:10sensational

00:44:12from the character

00:44:14who was Pacciani

00:44:16if we go

00:44:18to analyze

00:44:19as

00:44:20the monster

00:44:22or how

00:44:23the monster

00:44:24it was placed

00:44:25towards the victims

00:44:27era

00:44:27a pose

00:44:29in a manner

00:44:29totally

00:44:30detached

00:44:31there wasn't

00:44:33an activity

00:44:34nor mental

00:44:36nor physics

00:44:37at the level

00:44:38sexual

00:44:39towards

00:44:40of the victims

00:44:41Pacciani

00:44:42instead it was

00:44:44called

00:44:45the blaze

00:44:46why yes

00:44:47was on fire

00:44:48it became

00:44:48red

00:44:49I had

00:44:50a disease

00:44:52towards sex

00:44:53it was fixed

00:44:54would have

00:44:55raped

00:44:55would have

00:44:56touched

00:44:56would have

00:44:56taken advantage of

00:44:57of the situation

00:44:58maybe before killing

00:45:00a second native

00:45:02from Vicchio

00:45:02and now

00:45:03resident in Prato

00:45:04it's the 38th

00:45:05of the list

00:45:06the former legionary

00:45:07Giampiero

00:45:08Vigilantes

00:45:09he is searched

00:45:10eight days

00:45:11after the crime

00:45:12of '85

00:45:12and this search

00:45:14is performed

00:45:15from the police

00:45:16this document

00:45:18guarded

00:45:18from SISDE

00:45:19the service

00:45:20internal secret

00:45:21is discovered

00:45:22only in 2018

00:45:24the information

00:45:25list the precedents

00:45:26Vigilante penalties

00:45:28as a young man

00:45:29he was looking for sex

00:45:30in the men's bathrooms

00:45:31he was imprisoned

00:45:32for obscene acts

00:45:33homosexuals

00:45:34he killed

00:45:35two Arabs

00:45:35in Marseille

00:45:36after his years

00:45:37in the Foreign Legion

00:45:39and second

00:45:39this document

00:45:41returned to Italy

00:45:42he did

00:45:42to prostitute

00:45:43the wife

00:45:44Vigilantes

00:45:45it would have been

00:45:46also involved

00:45:47in a murder

00:45:47accomplished

00:45:48from the friend

00:45:49Peter Pacciani

00:45:50in 1951

00:45:52Furthermore

00:45:52keeps at home

00:45:53his and his mother's

00:45:54in Vicchio

00:45:55newspaper clippings

00:45:57on the crimes of the monster

00:45:58included

00:45:58this of the crime

00:46:00of 74

00:46:01Giampiero Vigilanti

00:46:03according to when

00:46:04he contests him

00:46:05the prosecutor's office

00:46:08would have had

00:46:09an active role

00:46:10in crimes

00:46:11he is the owner

00:46:14of a red car

00:46:15that is seen

00:46:16immediately after

00:46:17at least

00:46:19the last crime

00:46:22he is suspected

00:46:24Why

00:46:25Why

00:46:26he is a person

00:46:28warn

00:46:29to use

00:46:29of weapons

00:46:30he is a person

00:46:30violent

00:46:31he is a person

00:46:32that anyway

00:46:32was part of

00:46:33for years

00:46:33of the legion

00:46:34foreigner

00:46:35and above all

00:46:36he is a person

00:46:36which was born

00:46:38and grew up

00:46:38in Vicchio

00:46:39in the list

00:46:41of the suspects

00:46:42to the number

00:46:42181

00:46:44also figure

00:46:45another name

00:46:45which will occupy

00:46:46pages and pages

00:46:47of crime news

00:46:48Francis

00:46:49Narducci

00:46:50gastroenterologist

00:46:51and gynecologist

00:46:52Perugian

00:46:53brilliant doctor

00:46:54and alleged

00:46:55Freemason

00:46:55he dies

00:46:56apparently

00:46:57drowned

00:46:58in the lake

00:46:58Trasimeno

00:46:59Exactly

00:47:00a month

00:47:00After

00:47:01the last one

00:47:01homocide

00:47:02of the monster

00:47:02Narducci's

00:47:04it's a death

00:47:04very anomalous

00:47:06which seems

00:47:06HIDE

00:47:07a scary one

00:47:08reality

00:47:08there is one

00:47:10a documentation

00:47:11of the mobile squad

00:47:13of the police headquarters

00:47:13from Perugia

00:47:13from which it results

00:47:15that the inspector

00:47:16an inspector

00:47:17of the mobile squad

00:47:18the most important

00:47:20of the inspectors

00:47:21of the mobile squad

00:47:22from Perugia

00:47:23he made investigations

00:47:24on the crime

00:47:25of the brooms

00:47:26And

00:47:28on the crimes

00:47:29of the monster

00:47:30of Florence

00:47:30and on the figure

00:47:32by Narducci

00:47:32in the days

00:47:33immediately

00:47:34subsequent

00:47:35to the crime

00:47:36of the brooms

00:47:37without

00:47:38have some

00:47:39us

00:47:39we did

00:47:41investigations

00:47:42there wasn't

00:47:42none

00:47:44delegation

00:47:44of investigations

00:47:45by

00:47:46of the prosecution

00:47:47of Florence

00:47:48the names

00:47:49by Pacciani

00:47:50Narducci

00:47:50and Vigilantes

00:47:51they will mark

00:47:5240 years old

00:47:53of investigations

00:47:54without however

00:47:54that some

00:47:55of these

00:47:55slopes

00:47:56lead to a

00:47:57solution

00:47:57definitive

00:47:58of the case

00:48:01in August

00:48:021989

00:48:04the investigators

00:48:05they receive

00:48:05the results

00:48:06of an analysis

00:48:07of the FBI

00:48:08request

00:48:09from the Ministry

00:48:09of the Interior

00:48:10the FBI

00:48:11employs

00:48:11the techniques

00:48:12more sophisticated

00:48:13of analysis

00:48:14of the murders

00:48:14serials

00:48:15using

00:48:16computer science

00:48:16to find

00:48:17similarities

00:48:18between various crimes

00:48:19analyzing

00:48:20the minds

00:48:21the motives

00:48:22and the methods

00:48:22of the assassins

00:48:30the analysis

00:48:31conclude

00:48:32that the monster

00:48:33of Florence

00:48:33he's a male

00:48:34Italian

00:48:34at ease

00:48:36on the ground

00:48:36of the murders

00:48:37and acts

00:48:38alone

00:48:38can have

00:48:40an experience

00:48:40military

00:48:41demonstrates

00:48:42a certain

00:48:42sadism

00:48:43as well as

00:48:43hatred

00:48:44towards women

00:48:45suffers

00:48:46of dysfunction

00:48:47sexual

00:48:47non-violent

00:48:48never the victim

00:48:49female

00:48:49and kills

00:48:50the man

00:48:51just to delete

00:48:52a source

00:48:52of interference

00:48:53with its rite

00:48:57in '89

00:48:5988-89

00:49:00they had given

00:49:01their response

00:49:02these experts

00:49:03of the FBI

00:49:04saying

00:49:05Yes

00:49:05can be

00:49:07a serial killer

00:49:08solitary

00:49:09who lives

00:49:09in the area

00:49:10so a murderer

00:49:11unique

00:49:12a hypothesis

00:49:13Then

00:49:13which was

00:49:14married

00:49:14in Italy

00:49:15from whom

00:49:16he was carrying on

00:49:18the idea

00:49:18of the serial killer

00:49:19solitary

00:49:21leaving aside

00:49:22but

00:49:22to say

00:49:23That

00:49:25their vision

00:49:26it had been

00:49:26only partial

00:49:28and that

00:49:28in the paper

00:49:29very correctly

00:49:31they had said

00:49:32us

00:49:33we express

00:49:34this judgment

00:49:35based on

00:49:36to ours

00:49:36experience

00:49:37that we have

00:49:38from the cases

00:49:39in the United States

00:49:40but ours

00:49:41judgment

00:49:42it could change

00:49:43if we had to

00:49:44to come to know

00:49:46of other facts

00:49:47so he invited

00:49:48Italy

00:49:49to give

00:49:50other

00:49:51further

00:49:52novelty

00:49:53the profilers

00:49:55of the FBI

00:49:56they describe

00:49:57the weapons

00:49:57of the crime

00:49:58the knife

00:49:59and the gun

00:50:00as equipment

00:50:01ritual

00:50:02preserved

00:50:03religiously

00:50:04like fetishes

00:50:05for the FBI

00:50:07the murderer

00:50:08enjoys

00:50:09of his own fame

00:50:10cut out articles

00:50:11of newspaper

00:50:12which describe

00:50:12his crimes

00:50:13and he's having fun

00:50:14to challenge

00:50:15the investigators

00:50:16they undertake

00:50:17an analysis

00:50:18of the clusters

00:50:18creating a mapping

00:50:20significant places

00:50:21among which they note

00:50:22the place

00:50:23of discovery

00:50:24of a bullet

00:50:25similar to those

00:50:26used in murders

00:50:27in the parking lot

00:50:28of the hospital

00:50:29of Ponte Niccheri

00:50:30in Bagno Arripoli

00:50:31south of Florence

00:50:32the investigations

00:50:33subsequent

00:50:34they seem to ignore

00:50:36completely

00:50:36what was found

00:50:37from the FBI

00:50:38but an analysis

00:50:39be careful

00:50:40of that material

00:50:41it will reveal itself

00:50:42useful

00:50:42further ahead

00:50:46Lawyer

00:50:47me now

00:50:49I ask you

00:50:50of not being

00:50:51more

00:50:52clear pen

00:50:53but to become

00:50:54the detective

00:50:54Clarice Starling

00:50:56of silence

00:50:56of the innocents

00:50:57and she has to tell me

00:50:59Exactly

00:51:00what a portrait

00:51:02he has this monster

00:51:04what kind of man is he?

00:51:05what kind of person is he?

00:51:06what does he have

00:51:07in the head

00:51:07because it kills

00:51:08in that way

00:51:11so

00:51:12he is a man

00:51:12apparently normal

00:51:14apparently

00:51:15integrated

00:51:16of culture

00:51:17medium high

00:51:17that acts

00:51:18essentially

00:51:20to prevent

00:51:21to the victims

00:51:22to have

00:51:22a relationship

00:51:23sexual

00:51:23so much so that

00:51:24the only time

00:51:26in which

00:51:27it doesn't take away

00:51:28with himself

00:51:29the fetishes

00:51:30leaving aside

00:51:31the case

00:51:31in which

00:51:32probably

00:51:32by mistake

00:51:33kills two boys

00:51:34it's the case

00:51:35in which

00:51:36he's completely wrong

00:51:37also place

00:51:38and moment

00:51:39strangely

00:51:40and that's the case

00:51:41in which

00:51:41the two boys

00:51:42they already have

00:51:43had a relationship

00:51:44sexual

00:51:44and then

00:51:45I'm referring to

00:51:46Obviously

00:51:47to the case

00:51:47Migliorini-Mainardi

00:51:48on which

00:51:49there are still

00:51:50of the discussions

00:51:51in this regard

00:51:52upon discovery

00:51:53of the boys themselves

00:51:54to the position

00:51:55of the boys themselves

00:51:56Why

00:51:56the reconstruction

00:51:57official

00:51:58that's what we have

00:51:59seen before

00:51:59in the service

00:52:00another reconstruction

00:52:01he even wants

00:52:03that the monster

00:52:03he put himself

00:52:04at the wheel

00:52:05of the car

00:52:05to move

00:52:06the car

00:52:07and failed

00:52:08to complete

00:52:10the action

00:52:11because he is disturbed

00:52:12and then

00:52:12he came out

00:52:13from the car

00:52:13and shot

00:52:14subsequently

00:52:15the headlights

00:52:15why the car

00:52:16she got stuck

00:52:17this is because

00:52:18there are some discrepancies

00:52:19compared to the testimonies

00:52:21of the driver

00:52:23of the ambulance

00:52:24that has arrived

00:52:25on site

00:52:26and whose

00:52:26he had arrived first

00:52:28to call

00:52:28the rescuers

00:52:29Therefore

00:52:29it's a subject

00:52:30who has difficulty

00:52:32Obviously

00:52:32to interact

00:52:33with the female figure

00:52:34in reality

00:52:35so he is not able

00:52:36to have relationships

00:52:37normal

00:52:37with the female figure

00:52:38consequentially

00:52:40arrives on the scene

00:52:41neutralizes

00:52:42the male victim

00:52:43and his attention

00:52:44it focuses

00:52:44exclusively

00:52:45on the female victim

00:52:46which is brought

00:52:47out of the cockpit

00:52:49the only time

00:52:50in which

00:52:50the male victim

00:52:52he moves away

00:52:52independently

00:52:53this is precisely the case

00:52:54of the French

00:52:55and then it is found

00:52:55distant

00:52:56because of this

00:52:56and the female victim

00:52:57remains in place

00:52:58in which she is killed

00:53:00or in the case

00:53:01Cambibaldi

00:53:02in which the boy

00:53:03probably

00:53:04escape from the car

00:53:05and is outside

00:53:06so concentrate

00:53:07his attention

00:53:08on the female victim

00:53:09from the first moment

00:53:10from the first crime

00:53:11because it's not true

00:53:12that does not interact

00:53:13also with Barbara Locci

00:53:14because it recomposes it

00:53:16and probably

00:53:17take away the chain

00:53:18rummage

00:53:19in all handbags

00:53:21of all the girls

00:53:23after which

00:53:24this one starts

00:53:25as I was saying before

00:53:26escalation

00:53:27in his business

00:53:28then remove

00:53:29in '81

00:53:30the pub

00:53:31to the two girls

00:53:32in one mode

00:53:33the same

00:53:34because the data

00:53:35medico-legal

00:53:36they speak

00:53:36in the Cambi case

00:53:37of a modality

00:53:38more extensive

00:53:39it's less linear

00:53:41compared to the case

00:53:42of the complaint

00:53:43but you have to

00:53:44contextualize

00:53:45even the modalities

00:53:46through which

00:53:48the crime occurs

00:53:49and above all

00:53:50the clothing

00:53:51of the two girls

00:53:52that was different

00:53:52the weapon is the same

00:53:54so it's the same knife

00:53:55probably

00:53:56a diving knife

00:53:57after which

00:53:58we have

00:53:59the other two crimes

00:54:00in which

00:54:01commits

00:54:02these

00:54:02these errors

00:54:03in case

00:54:04of 74

00:54:05what does he do

00:54:07it doesn't kill

00:54:08with the gun

00:54:10the girl

00:54:11he hurts her

00:54:11actually

00:54:12he kills her

00:54:12subsequently

00:54:13with the cutting weapon

00:54:14and acts

00:54:16with 96

00:54:17stab wounds

00:54:18but be careful

00:54:19they are not 96

00:54:20fatal stabs

00:54:22the fatal stabs

00:54:23they are inferior

00:54:25Why

00:54:25it focuses

00:54:27and lingers

00:54:28on the public area

00:54:29and on the area

00:54:30erogenous left breast

00:54:31I'll stop her for a moment

00:54:32which then

00:54:32will take away

00:54:33since '84

00:54:34I'll stop her

00:54:35I'll stop her for a moment

00:54:37Why

00:54:38as far as

00:54:39terrible

00:54:40In short

00:54:41to tell

00:54:42I wish you would

00:54:44was looking for

00:54:44to explain

00:54:46two things

00:54:46the first

00:54:47what sense

00:54:49they have these

00:54:49fetishes

00:54:50that he

00:54:50take away

00:54:52and the second

00:54:53what it seems to me

00:54:54to be able to say

00:54:55which is typical

00:54:56of serial killers

00:54:56at a certain point

00:54:57he throws

00:54:58in first person

00:54:59a challenge

00:55:00to whoever is investigating

00:55:01about him

00:55:02the spear

00:55:04and it's typical

00:55:04of serial killers

00:55:05on one side

00:55:06the challenge

00:55:06and on the other

00:55:07somehow

00:55:08it's a reminder

00:55:08to be stopped

00:55:10it's a bit always

00:55:11let's say

00:55:11contradictory

00:55:12the message

00:55:13which is sent

00:55:16At that time

00:55:16with regard to

00:55:17the fetishes

00:55:18it is very common

00:55:19Why

00:55:19to bring with you

00:55:20the fetish

00:55:21which I reiterate

00:55:22in the first case

00:55:24it's a little chain

00:55:25then some objects

00:55:26staff

00:55:26then unfortunately it arrives

00:55:27to remove

00:55:28some pieces

00:55:30of the victims

00:55:30it means

00:55:31not only

00:55:32to bring with you

00:55:33something about the victim

00:55:34and then

00:55:35in some cases

00:55:36Unfortunately

00:55:37practice later

00:55:38even acts of cannibalism

00:55:39to make your own

00:55:41in the true sense

00:55:42of the word

00:55:43to the victim

00:55:43but when does he do it

00:55:44when in a certain

00:55:46moment

00:55:46comes upon him

00:55:48again

00:55:48the desire to kill

00:55:49why we have to think

00:55:50to the serial killer

00:55:51as an employee

00:55:53from this action

00:55:54that can't

00:55:55live without

00:55:56there is a period

00:55:57latency

00:55:57where it calms down

00:55:58after which

00:55:59he needs

00:56:00again

00:56:01to kill

00:56:01and sometimes

00:56:02when he feels

00:56:03this need

00:56:04relive that feeling

00:56:07through

00:56:08these fetishes

00:56:09which they bring with them

00:56:10I'll stop her for a moment

00:56:11Why

00:56:11it is extremely

00:56:13interesting

00:56:13but I have to

00:56:14send the advertisement

00:56:15stay there

00:56:15also Carlo

00:56:17Lucarelli

00:56:17Thank you

00:56:30Lawyer Chiara Penna

00:56:32she did

00:56:33a portrait

00:56:34of this monster

00:56:35which corresponds

00:56:38to anyone

00:56:39unless

00:56:39to the three people

00:56:40which then end

00:56:41on trial

00:56:42that I am

00:56:43of the peasants

00:56:44semi-illiterate

00:56:45which certainly

00:56:45they don't have

00:56:46let's say

00:56:47this head

00:56:49sick

00:56:50but somehow

00:56:51refined

00:56:52to be able to behave

00:56:55as she said

00:56:56that is, to follow

00:56:57that ritual

00:56:59during

00:57:00during the murders

00:57:01and why

00:57:03there is this

00:57:04contradiction

00:57:05between that

00:57:06what the FBI says

00:57:07what he says

00:57:08today she

00:57:09and then instead

00:57:10the investigations

00:57:10that end up

00:57:12on these three characters

00:57:13that we can

00:57:15consider

00:57:15of the executors

00:57:16or of the possible ones

00:57:17executors

00:57:18who worked

00:57:18for someone

00:57:19Yes

00:57:20Yes

00:57:22At that time

00:57:22it's gone

00:57:24practically

00:57:24in this way

00:57:25in my opinion

00:57:26and I say it

00:57:26both as a criminologist

00:57:27both as a criminal lawyer

00:57:28that every day

00:57:30daily

00:57:30he lives the courtrooms

00:57:32and he also knows a little

00:57:34how they develop

00:57:35certain procedures

00:57:37also investigative

00:57:38the track

00:57:39of Merende's companions

00:57:40appears

00:57:41when it fails

00:57:42totally

00:57:42the Pacciani theorem

00:57:44Why

00:57:44after the solution

00:57:46or rather

00:57:46after the conviction

00:57:48in the first degree

00:57:49by Pietro Pacciani

00:57:50which he already did

00:57:51to foretell

00:57:52the possibility

00:57:53that this sentence

00:57:54came

00:57:55essentially

00:57:56demolished

00:57:57on appeal

00:57:57what happened

00:57:58the judges

00:57:59they invited

00:58:00to investigate

00:58:01on the possibility

00:58:02that there were

00:58:03of the helpers

00:58:05Why

00:58:06they immediately realized

00:58:07I count

00:58:07that Pacciani

00:58:08it couldn't be

00:58:09the monster

00:58:10alone

00:58:10not only

00:58:11because it had been

00:58:12identified

00:58:13according to a modality

00:58:14totally devoid

00:58:15scientifically based

00:58:16and that is

00:58:16the identification

00:58:19of all those subjects

00:58:20that had been

00:58:21in prison

00:58:22after 1985

00:58:25which therefore

00:58:26they could no longer act

00:58:28from this screening

00:58:29Pacciani came out

00:58:31from this group

00:58:32Pacciani came out

00:58:33again

00:58:34when they were removed

00:58:35all those who

00:58:36they had been arrested

00:58:37for sex crimes

00:58:38and from this group

00:58:39was further developed

00:58:40eliminated

00:58:41everyone

00:58:42they were eliminated

00:58:43all those who

00:58:44they had had

00:58:45freedom

00:58:45to move

00:58:46in the moments

00:58:47in which the monster

00:58:47he acted

00:58:48and above all

00:58:49that had been

00:58:50pay attention

00:58:51by the judicial authority

00:58:52and Pietro Pacciani

00:58:53had been paid attention to

00:58:54in 1989

00:58:55and had been searched

00:58:57with outcome

00:58:58absolutely negative

00:58:59because it had been

00:59:00reported

00:59:01from an anonymous letter

00:59:02from one of those

00:59:03hundreds of anonymous letters

00:59:05which had arrived

00:59:06to the judicial authority

00:59:07so what happens?

00:59:08When it starts to fall

00:59:09this theorem

00:59:10Pacciani

00:59:11then we begin

00:59:12to investigate

00:59:12on the possible

00:59:13helpers

00:59:14Pacciani is acquitted

00:59:16on appeal

00:59:16he is exonerated

00:59:18completely

00:59:18with a sentence

00:59:19which I reiterate

00:59:20demolishes

00:59:20the accusatory system

00:59:21now certainly

00:59:23there is an appeal

00:59:24in Cassation

00:59:24which is formulated

00:59:26simply

00:59:26because the prosecutor

00:59:28general had requested

00:59:29that they were heard

00:59:31four texts

00:59:31Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Delta

00:59:33that others were not

00:59:34that Lotti

00:59:36Gauls

00:59:37Lakes, Rebels

00:59:38and Pucci

00:59:39what they would have said

00:59:40what then

00:59:41we came

00:59:42clearly to know

00:59:43with the process

00:59:43to the companions of Merenda

00:59:44so in my opinion

00:59:45nothing that would ever happen

00:59:47the reconstruction was scratched

00:59:48just as it had been

00:59:49carried out

00:59:50in the sense

00:59:51of the complete

00:59:52foreignness

00:59:53of the facts

00:59:53by Pacciani

00:59:54but unfortunately

00:59:55Pacciani dies

00:59:56before it comes

00:59:57the trial was held

00:59:58of appeal bis

00:59:59I have a question

01:00:00I have a question to ask you

01:00:01when it crumbles

01:00:01Also

01:00:02Yes

01:00:02I have a question

01:00:04to do for her

01:00:04which is not indifferent

01:00:06because according to her

01:00:08in '85

01:00:08the monster stops

01:00:10to hit?

01:00:13so

01:00:13it's not even safe

01:00:15that the monster

01:00:16stop hitting

01:00:17until 1985

01:00:19because there are crimes

01:00:20you were referring to

01:00:21Before

01:00:22now we will see everything

01:00:23Certain

01:00:23so I'm referring to

01:00:24Yes

01:00:25Francesco Vinci

01:00:27his friend

01:00:29as well as the

01:00:30Malatesta

01:00:30Exactly

01:00:32it is possible

01:00:33that the monster

01:00:34acted

01:00:35even towards them

01:00:36not only

01:00:37because it is not

01:00:37absolutely

01:00:38unusual

01:00:39that the last murder

01:00:41changes

01:00:42strategy

01:00:43in the moment

01:00:44in which

01:00:44you feel it

01:00:45somehow

01:00:46hunted

01:00:46above all

01:00:47if you consider

01:00:48the possibility

01:00:48plausible

01:00:50that the monster

01:00:51was a subject

01:00:52Neighbor

01:00:53to the investigations

01:00:54in the sense

01:00:55that he had

01:00:56some way

01:00:57preferential

01:00:58compared to that

01:01:00what was happening

01:01:01in the prosecutor's office

01:01:02and I'm reconnecting

01:01:03to that question too

01:01:04that had been done

01:01:05previously

01:01:06in relation to messages

01:01:07that are sent

01:01:08something important

01:01:09the message

01:01:10which certainly

01:01:11it was sent

01:01:11from the monster

01:01:12because there were so many

01:01:13it's the one sent

01:01:15to the doctor

01:01:15Silvia della Monica

01:01:16that is certainly

01:01:17of the monster

01:01:18and not by chance

01:01:19is sent

01:01:20to the only woman

01:01:21which took care of

01:01:21of the investigations

01:01:22and has a double meaning

01:01:24one that reconnects

01:01:25to that of which

01:01:25we were talking before

01:01:26so to his relationship

01:01:28ambivalent

01:01:29with the woman

01:01:30two

01:01:30for the fact

01:01:31that the doctor

01:01:31Silvia della Monica

01:01:32he didn't care anymore

01:01:33the investigations

01:01:34in my opinion

01:01:34it was that

01:01:35that was

01:01:35even approached

01:01:36moreover

01:01:36and it is shipped

01:01:38and then

01:01:38it's like he's calling her back

01:01:40to take care of

01:01:40of the investigations

01:01:42paradoxically

01:01:42and it is shipped

01:01:44from the place

01:01:45in which

01:01:45the doctor

01:01:46Silvia della Monica

01:01:47he had a house

01:01:48in that period

01:01:49on vacation

01:01:50and then

01:01:50a double message

01:01:51he knew where the doctor was

01:01:53he lived

01:01:54during the summer

01:01:55no small thing

01:01:56I'll stop her

01:01:57thank you lawyer

01:01:58I would like to go back

01:01:59by Carlo Lucarelli

01:02:00before moving on

01:02:01with ours

01:02:02reconstruction

01:02:03Charles

01:02:04In short

01:02:05this monster

01:02:06he's a character

01:02:08in his being

01:02:10let's say

01:02:11evil

01:02:12in his being

01:02:13a murderer

01:02:14he's a character

01:02:15who has

01:02:16as I was saying before

01:02:17one of his abilities

01:02:19even refined

01:02:20to move

01:02:21and of

01:02:22have to deal with

01:02:24with the symbols

01:02:24No?

01:02:25which then

01:02:26puts on the field

01:02:28every time

01:02:28that kills

01:02:29and even

01:02:30as he was saying now

01:02:31the lawyer

01:02:33he can find

01:02:34the way of communicating

01:02:36with the only woman

01:02:37who does the investigations

01:02:38In short

01:02:39we are completely

01:02:40at least from my point of view

01:02:42completely out

01:02:44from what is the perimeter

01:02:45of the investigation

01:02:46of that moment

01:02:47that is Pacciani

01:02:48and the snack companions

01:02:51Well

01:02:52it's a level

01:02:52Yes

01:02:53we're out

01:02:53in the sense that we could

01:02:54even being out

01:02:55because we are

01:02:56to the next level

01:02:57the investigation at that time

01:02:58it's unlikely to arrive

01:02:59No?

01:03:00to other points

01:03:01I think that

01:03:02there are two things

01:03:03which exclude each other

01:03:03I'm interrupting you

01:03:04just a moment

01:03:05to add

01:03:06a small detail

01:03:07I would like to hear from you about it

01:03:08that is, the lawyer

01:03:09he said something

01:03:10which in reality

01:03:11it was a voice

01:03:13that was circulating

01:03:14very insistently

01:03:15in the period

01:03:17of the investigations

01:03:18on the monster

01:03:19that is to say

01:03:19that this

01:03:20this person

01:03:22is

01:03:23directly

01:03:24aware

01:03:25of the investigations

01:03:26or even

01:03:27part itself

01:03:28of the investigations

01:03:29Meaning what

01:03:30that this level

01:03:31superior

01:03:32pits to be searched for

01:03:33let's say

01:03:34within

01:03:35in the circle

01:03:36of people

01:03:36that they were

01:03:37investigating

01:03:38policemen

01:03:39Carabinieri

01:03:40magistrates

01:03:41that is, someone

01:03:42which was

01:03:43Like this

01:03:43let's say

01:03:44informed

01:03:46and capable

01:03:47even to move

01:03:48without taking risks

01:03:52Yes

01:03:53This

01:03:53it doesn't mean

01:03:54Obviously

01:03:54that the monster

01:03:55of Florence

01:03:56be a policeman

01:03:57a magistrate

01:03:58or something

01:03:59of this kind

01:03:59certainly not

01:04:00but

01:04:01In my opinion

01:04:02I'm like saying

01:04:03we travel on the field

01:04:04some hypotheses

01:04:05but there are

01:04:06there is a system

01:04:07of hypotheses

01:04:07which does not exclude

01:04:08many things

01:04:09if we have

01:04:10a monster of Florence

01:04:10who is that character

01:04:11which is described

01:04:12from the appraisals

01:04:13that is, a person

01:04:13cultured

01:04:14intelligent

01:04:14Obviously

01:04:15refined

01:04:15with all

01:04:16the problems

01:04:17what we said

01:04:18and then if we hypothesize

01:04:19another level

01:04:20which is that

01:04:20maybe of a circle

01:04:22of an esoteric sect

01:04:23that in some way

01:04:24it depends on him

01:04:25and moves next to him

01:04:26and then another level

01:04:26which is that

01:04:27of the family members

01:04:27of the laborers

01:04:28by Pacciani

01:04:29and others

01:04:30and then maybe here it is

01:04:32things are also together

01:04:33in this way

01:04:33we have a powerful person

01:04:35who knows

01:04:36what he can do

01:04:37and who knows how to move

01:04:39things

01:04:39can cover

01:04:40and that makes requests

01:04:42to some characters

01:04:43who are the laborers

01:04:44of the thing

01:04:44I wouldn't forget this

01:04:46when did you do it

01:04:47the list

01:04:47of people

01:04:48of collateral deaths

01:04:50of this story

01:04:51which we will now see

01:04:51that at a certain point

01:04:53is no longer processed

01:04:54why he dies

01:04:54and his too

01:04:55it's a death

01:04:56quite mysterious

01:04:57Certain

01:04:58At that time

01:04:58let's move on

01:05:00with this story

01:05:02which begins

01:05:02let's say

01:05:03to expand

01:05:05Why

01:05:06at a certain point

01:05:07we will open

01:05:08incredible chapters

01:05:09like that

01:05:09by Narducci

01:05:10of the doctor

01:05:11with this

01:05:12exchange

01:05:13let's say

01:05:13that is done

01:05:14of corpses

01:05:15in the shade

01:05:17of Freemasonry

01:05:18but not only

01:05:19but now

01:05:20let's start entering

01:05:21in the Pacciani chapter

01:05:22and even in the confusion

01:05:23which is done

01:05:24on the bullets

01:05:26used

01:05:26to kill

01:05:28the victims

01:05:29and let's see

01:05:30this other one

01:05:31piece of story

01:05:32because it adds

01:05:33still others

01:05:33dark details

01:05:37seven years

01:05:38after the last one

01:05:39homocide

01:05:39Peter Pacciani

01:05:40he's already in prison

01:05:41for abuse

01:05:42on the daughters

01:05:43an old letter

01:05:44anonymous complaint

01:05:45it triggers

01:05:46new investigations

01:05:47and searches

01:05:48in 1992

01:05:49the miraculous

01:05:51and then much discussed

01:05:52discovery

01:05:53of a bullet

01:05:5422 caliber

01:05:55unexploded

01:05:56in a trellis

01:05:57of support

01:05:58of a screw

01:05:58in his garden

01:05:59Pacciani returns

01:06:01under the lens

01:06:02of the investigations

01:06:04the first one begins

01:06:05large vein

01:06:06of investigation

01:06:07but that

01:06:07it will go a long way

01:06:08beyond expectations

01:06:09three years later

01:06:10the process begins

01:06:11spectacular

01:06:12against Pietro Pacciani

01:06:24Serena Sgherri

01:06:25she was a young woman

01:06:26journalist

01:06:27which followed

01:06:28the footprints

01:06:28of his father

01:06:29in telling

01:06:30the monster

01:06:30of Florence

01:06:31when there was

01:06:32precisely the process

01:06:33early in the morning

01:06:34already in the assize court

01:06:35people were crowding together

01:06:36to go and see

01:06:37this alleged monster

01:06:40all the witnesses

01:06:40that have paraded

01:06:41they were people

01:06:43which they described

01:06:45a reality

01:06:46also quite ugly

01:06:48despite the process

01:06:50had moments

01:06:52comedians

01:06:52because they were also

01:06:54nice

01:06:55the people

01:06:56who testified

01:06:57even if then

01:06:58naturally

01:06:59there were testimonies

01:07:00very raw

01:07:01very sad

01:07:02when they came

01:07:03listen to the daughters

01:07:04by Pacciani

01:07:05it was a moment

01:07:06very touching

01:07:07where these daughters

01:07:08In short

01:07:08they were really pathetic

01:07:09during the process

01:07:12first degree

01:07:12are presented

01:07:14numerous witnesses

01:07:15anonymous letters

01:07:16and some objects

01:07:17found at home

01:07:18by Pacciani

01:07:19including

01:07:20the bullet

01:07:20unexploded

01:07:21a notebook

01:07:22branded

01:07:22Schizzenbrunnen

01:07:24which could have belonged

01:07:25to the German boys

01:07:26a soap dish

01:07:27camping

01:07:28pornographic images

01:07:30and satanic

01:07:30Pacciani

01:07:32is defended

01:07:33from the lawyers

01:07:33Rosario Bevacqua

01:07:35and Pietro Fioravanti

01:07:36the son

01:07:37of the lawyer

01:07:38Fioravanti

01:07:38Alessio

01:07:39at the time

01:07:40he was a boy

01:07:41and he met

01:07:42the defendant

01:07:42I remember

01:07:44above all

01:07:45a small event

01:07:47cute

01:07:48and no

01:07:48if it means

01:07:49Why

01:07:50as soon as I got there

01:07:53he asked me

01:07:54if I wanted

01:07:55some biscuits

01:07:55I

01:07:56I was scared

01:07:58from the situation

01:07:59and I refused

01:08:00being afraid

01:08:01of something

01:08:02actually

01:08:02the figure

01:08:04by Pacciani

01:08:05also for my father

01:08:06era

01:08:06Very

01:08:09particular

01:08:10Why

01:08:10era

01:08:11the maniac

01:08:13sexual

01:08:15of the daughters

01:08:16era

01:08:17a monster

01:08:18from that point of view

01:08:20but it was

01:08:21Also

01:08:21a

01:08:23typical

01:08:23farmer

01:08:24Tuscan

01:08:25raw

01:08:26Therefore

01:08:27they were pulling

01:08:28to blaspheme

01:08:29every now and again

01:08:29What

01:08:30very normal

01:08:32but

01:08:33Not

01:08:33he didn't do it

01:08:35all this

01:08:35fear

01:08:36When

01:08:36you were there

01:08:41the study

01:08:43by Fioravanti

01:08:43it was submerged

01:08:44of letters

01:08:45anonymous

01:08:45of all kinds

01:08:51let's say that

01:08:52right around that time

01:08:54it was a continuous

01:08:56among anonymous letters

01:08:58among anonymous letters

01:09:00of threats

01:09:01Of

01:09:01people who said

01:09:03to be

01:09:04or the monster

01:09:05or who knew

01:09:06the monster

01:09:07and then

01:09:08they gave

01:09:09their help

01:09:11from their point of view

01:09:14And

01:09:15events

01:09:16That

01:09:17involved

01:09:18directly

01:09:18my father

01:09:19for example

01:09:20once

01:09:22they unscrewed

01:09:23the wheel

01:09:24of the machine

01:09:26of my father

01:09:26up to a certain point

01:09:28And

01:09:29while he was there

01:09:30on the bridge

01:09:31Indian style

01:09:32he saw the wheel

01:09:33just that

01:09:34he was leaving

01:09:35and the car

01:09:36he was going slowly

01:09:37so the car

01:09:38she leaned on

01:09:39simply

01:09:40on the part

01:09:42where the wheel was missing

01:09:43and rubbed

01:09:45a little bit

01:09:45the witnesses

01:09:47including his wife

01:09:48and the daughters

01:09:48describe Pacciani

01:09:49like a violent

01:09:51another witness

01:09:52he saw it

01:09:52in his car

01:09:53in Scopeti Street

01:09:54the night

01:09:54of September 8th

01:09:561985

01:09:57together with a

01:09:58second man

01:09:59he is the killer

01:10:00solitary

01:10:00Perfect

01:10:01the defenders

01:10:02by Pacciani

01:10:02they try in vain

01:10:04to demonstrate

01:10:04that the evidence

01:10:05brought against him

01:10:06they have no value

01:10:07the bullet

01:10:08shows no signs

01:10:10connected to the murders

01:10:11it's too new

01:10:12then later

01:10:14it turns out

01:10:14that satanic designs

01:10:16I am from a well-known

01:10:17Chilean artist

01:10:18Pacciani says

01:10:19who found

01:10:20the notebook

01:10:20Schizzenbrunnen

01:10:21and the soap dish

01:10:22in a landfill

01:10:24in the moment

01:10:25in which

01:10:26Pacciani

01:10:28he said something

01:10:29or if he said something

01:10:32what I remember

01:10:34is that

01:10:34he did

01:10:35he simply said

01:10:37a sentence

01:10:37why do you accuse me

01:10:39instead of that famous doctor

01:10:41my father fought

01:10:43he never gave up

01:10:45to his

01:10:47to his

01:10:47innocence

01:10:48he saw in Pacciani

01:10:50something that

01:10:51it wasn't

01:10:51it wasn't the monster

01:10:53November 1st

01:10:541994

01:10:55nine years

01:10:56after the last one

01:10:57crime of the monster

01:10:58Peter Pacciani

01:10:59he is sentenced

01:11:00to life imprisonment

01:11:01for seven

01:11:02of the eight

01:11:02double homicides

01:11:03the court of assizes

01:11:04first degree

01:11:05of Florence

01:11:05section one

01:11:06declares Pacciani Pietro

01:11:08guilty

01:11:08crimes against him

01:11:09ascribed

01:11:10as in the accusation

01:11:11with exceptions

01:11:12those related

01:11:13to the murder

01:11:13to the detriment

01:11:14by Lobianco Antonio

01:11:15and by Locci Barbara

01:11:16and condemns him

01:11:17to the penalty

01:11:17of life imprisonment

01:11:18with insulation

01:11:18daytime

01:11:19for the duration

01:11:19three years old

01:11:20after many years

01:11:21of mysteries

01:11:22the process

01:11:23gives a face

01:11:24and a name

01:11:25to the monster

01:11:25of Florence

01:11:26that

01:11:26of the farmer

01:11:27of Mercatale

01:11:28Peter Pacciani

01:11:29is this the end?

01:11:30the investigations

01:11:31they were made

01:11:32correctly?

01:11:33the new boss

01:11:34of the mobile squad

01:11:35Michael Giuttari

01:11:37he is not convinced

01:11:38that the whole truth

01:11:39was brought

01:11:40to the light

01:11:42after the conviction

01:11:43by Pacciani

01:11:44Giuttari

01:11:44examine thoroughly

01:11:45the documents

01:11:46adopts an approach

01:11:47methodical

01:11:48and requires

01:11:48new investigations

01:11:49scientific

01:11:59it appears to me

01:12:01as ever

01:12:01strange

01:12:02That

01:12:04of a process

01:12:05that of '68

01:12:06for which

01:12:07Already

01:12:08there had been

01:12:09a sentence

01:12:09definitive

01:12:10of the Court of Cassation

01:12:12for which

01:12:12it had already been there

01:12:13a convict

01:12:14so definitive

01:12:15at a distance

01:12:17of many years

01:12:18have been found

01:12:19in the file

01:12:20the bullets

01:12:23used

01:12:24for that crime

01:12:25when the law

01:12:27provides

01:12:27that the bullets

01:12:29of a crime

01:12:32must be

01:12:33kept

01:12:36in the appropriate places

01:12:37premises

01:12:38of the office

01:12:39corpus delicti

01:12:40and not in a file

01:12:41anomaly

01:12:42of this

01:12:45story

01:12:45which brought

01:12:46to investigate

01:12:47for a good seven years

01:12:50uselessly

01:12:51on a track

01:12:53that the cartridges

01:12:55found in the folder

01:12:56they are not

01:12:57those of the crime

01:12:58of 68

01:12:58is highlighted

01:13:00from the presence

01:13:01of a swelling

01:13:02in conclusion

01:13:03to the shells

01:13:03described

01:13:04in the original report

01:13:05and the almost

01:13:06nonexistence

01:13:07of the sign

01:13:08of the extractor

01:13:09characteristics due

01:13:10to wear and tear

01:13:11of the room

01:13:11of percussion

01:13:12these details

01:13:14they never come

01:13:15highlighted

01:13:16in subsequent appraisals

01:13:17including

01:13:18those made

01:13:19on the bullets

01:13:20found in the folder

01:13:21where the sign

01:13:22of the extractor

01:13:23it is clearly visible

01:13:24it's information

01:13:25that is forgotten

01:13:27in subsequent analyses

01:13:28that they take

01:13:29for authentic

01:13:30the cartridges

01:13:31miraculously found

01:13:32in the folder

01:13:33of the crime

01:13:34of 1968

01:13:36Giuttari

01:13:37hypothesizes

01:13:38even that the weapons

01:13:39serum 2

01:13:42the appraisals

01:13:43they were made

01:13:45on two

01:13:47on a bullet

01:13:49for crime

01:13:50and on two

01:13:52shell casings

01:13:52for crime

01:13:53not on everyone

01:13:57moreover

01:13:58for some crime

01:13:59like the crime

01:14:00own

01:14:00of '82

01:14:01on no bullet

01:14:03why the bullets

01:14:05they introduced themselves

01:14:06all deformed

01:14:07severely deformed

01:14:09and then

01:14:10as can be said

01:14:12with absolute certainty

01:14:13how it was done

01:14:14that the bullets

01:14:16used

01:14:18for the double crimes

01:14:19and the cartridges

01:14:21Therefore

01:14:21they are all those

01:14:23analogous

01:14:24to the crime

01:14:25of 68

01:14:26according to Giuttari

01:14:29there is no certainty

01:14:30absolute

01:14:31that the bullets

01:14:32were shot

01:14:33from the same weapon

01:14:34and even less so

01:14:35that they came from

01:14:36from the same match

01:14:37the H series

01:14:39it wasn't a series

01:14:44a symbol

01:14:45which characterized

01:14:48a well-defined one

01:14:50bullet game

01:14:51at the time

01:14:53all cartridges

01:14:5422

01:14:55they had the series

01:14:57they had the initials H

01:14:59in honor

01:15:00to Henry Winchester

01:15:01as well as

01:15:02it was claimed

01:15:05and this is another news

01:15:07not matching

01:15:08to the truth

01:15:08which were part

01:15:10all

01:15:10of the same package

01:15:12of 50 cartridges

01:15:14the cartridges

01:15:15in part

01:15:16they were made of hard lead

01:15:18naked

01:15:19and partly chromed

01:15:21that cannot be found

01:15:23in the same box

01:15:25if there is no certainty

01:15:27on the bullets

01:15:28one of the tests falls

01:15:30against Pacciani

01:15:31this suggests

01:15:32to the new boss

01:15:33of the mobile squad

01:15:34that behind the murders

01:15:36there is much more

01:15:37of the farmer

01:15:38of Mercatale

01:15:39Michael Giuttari

01:15:40think there is

01:15:41a principal

01:15:41and accomplices

01:15:42the money

01:15:43they speak clearly

01:15:44according to investigators

01:15:45Peter Pacciani

01:15:46he had too many of them

01:15:47him in those years

01:15:48had purchased

01:15:49in cash

01:15:50two houses

01:15:51had purchased

01:15:52the machine

01:15:53he had put

01:15:54had purchased

01:15:56postal savings certificates

01:15:57in various post offices

01:15:59of the surrounding area

01:16:01of San Casciano

01:16:02not only in San Casciano

01:16:03even on the same day

01:16:05and in two or three cases

01:16:08in two or three cases

01:16:10shortly before a crime

01:16:12and shortly after the crime

01:16:16Despite its imposing size

01:16:18of documents

01:16:18not everyone is available

01:16:20the SISD

01:16:22the secret service

01:16:23of the Ministry of the Interior

01:16:24had opened

01:16:25a file

01:16:25and in charge

01:16:26to investigate

01:16:27Francesco Bruno

01:16:28well-known criminologist

01:16:29while the relationship

01:16:31Brown

01:16:31it is made public

01:16:32in 94

01:16:33some documents

01:16:34like this

01:16:35they are left out

01:16:36the information

01:16:39it's dated

01:16:39November 1985

01:16:41and lists the crimes

01:16:43and consequent criminal record

01:16:45by Giampiero Vigilanti

01:16:46who could have been interested

01:16:49to hide

01:16:50this document

01:16:51Michael Giuttari

01:16:52he is not made aware

01:16:54of the note

01:16:54one of hundreds

01:16:56and continues

01:16:57in research

01:16:57of Pacciani's accomplices

01:17:04Carlo Lucarelli

01:17:06In short

01:17:08I am trying to say

01:17:09Giuttari

01:17:09lead the team

01:17:11anti-monster

01:17:12and he doesn't have

01:17:12available

01:17:14all the elements

01:17:15to be able to

01:17:16arrive

01:17:16then to find

01:17:17a solution

01:17:18it comes as if to say

01:17:19as if

01:17:20they paraded him

01:17:21the cards

01:17:22one after the other

01:17:25Yes

01:17:26yes it's true

01:17:27and this is

01:17:27what happens

01:17:28I know the difficulties

01:17:29of the investigation

01:17:30I wrote a book

01:17:31together with Michele Giuttari

01:17:32so I'm very biased

01:17:33in the sense that

01:17:34In short

01:17:34I am very close to him

01:17:35but I saw

01:17:36his investigative skills

01:17:38the zeal he puts into it

01:17:39this ability

01:17:40as a policeman

01:17:41of detective novels

01:17:42absolutely not

01:17:42to remember something

01:17:43put it on

01:17:44compare it to something else

01:17:46but it's true

01:17:46that then

01:17:47the investigations

01:17:48they were very difficult

01:17:49and they were very difficult

01:17:51there were

01:17:52In short

01:17:53continuous obstacles

01:17:54naturally

01:17:54also Giuttari

01:17:55he suffered

01:17:55a whole series

01:17:57of disciplinary proceedings

01:17:59so many things

01:18:00In short

01:18:00that they have

01:18:00in a certain sense

01:18:01blocked his investigations

01:18:03Yes

01:18:04that then

01:18:04we'll see that too

01:18:06Why

01:18:06let's say

01:18:07the consequences

01:18:09of this

01:18:10obstinacy

01:18:11by Giuttari

01:18:12and not only of Giuttari

01:18:13Also

01:18:13of another magistrate

01:18:15because then

01:18:15be careful

01:18:16we will open the chapter

01:18:18of the Narducci crime

01:18:19that's crazy

01:18:20to follow

01:18:22we will see them

01:18:23we'll see later

01:18:24as we will see

01:18:25the testimony

01:18:27of the geneticist

01:18:28who discovered

01:18:30DNA

01:18:30by Unknown 1

01:18:31that is, the murderer

01:18:33by Iara Gambirasio

01:18:35Why

01:18:35why this case

01:18:37can be considered

01:18:39anything but closed

01:18:40because wanting

01:18:41and then we'll find out

01:18:43which elements

01:18:44there are still some

01:18:44that can be worked on

01:18:46listen

01:18:47lawyer

01:18:47I keep calling her

01:18:48lawyer

01:18:49what should I call her?

01:18:50lawyer

01:18:51lawyer

01:18:52lawyer

01:18:53lawyer

01:18:54it's fine

01:18:55lawyer

01:18:56but also a lawyer

01:18:57as he wishes

01:18:59listen

01:19:00it's incredible

01:19:02but

01:19:02that there are

01:19:03these documents

01:19:04that have been

01:19:05held back

01:19:06somehow

01:19:07on which we went

01:19:08to investigate

01:19:09then at a distance

01:19:10of decades

01:19:11with all the

01:19:12consequences

01:19:13of the case

01:19:14that is the fact

01:19:14that there were not

01:19:15more available

01:19:17people too

01:19:18on which it was possible

01:19:20to get to the bottom of

01:19:23Yes

01:19:23Unfortunately

01:19:24it is frequent

01:19:26there is the difficulty

01:19:27to find

01:19:28Always

01:19:28all documents

01:19:29above all

01:19:29when to take care of it

01:19:30of a case

01:19:31I'm more

01:19:32investigators

01:19:34I'm more

01:19:34attorneys

01:19:35so unfortunately

01:19:36it is possible

01:19:37it shouldn't happen

01:19:38but unfortunately

01:19:39it is possible

01:19:39but here we played

01:19:41Excuse me

01:19:41we played here

01:19:43let's say

01:19:44a big bet

01:19:45of the investigators

01:19:46it's because they had to

01:19:47take a gentleman

01:19:48that anyway

01:19:49at least

01:19:50had killed

01:19:5116 people

01:19:53Yes

01:19:54the problem

01:19:55Unfortunately

01:19:56is that these documents

01:19:58probably

01:19:58they were classified

01:19:59because they belonged

01:20:01to a certain

01:20:03category

01:20:03of investigators

01:20:05anyway the relationship

01:20:06in its actual

01:20:08content

01:20:09it had been

01:20:10however provided

01:20:11and what it highlighted

01:20:12precisely Professor Bruno

01:20:13era

01:20:14and it's important

01:20:15the esoteric matrix

01:20:17behind these crimes

01:20:18but not

01:20:19Attention

01:20:20refer to a group

01:20:21but rather

01:20:22to nature

01:20:23of the subject

01:20:24agent

01:20:24and I'll explain

01:20:25Better

01:20:26the speech

01:20:27of the group

01:20:28of the group action

01:20:29it is possible

01:20:30but in my opinion

01:20:31not in this case

01:20:32and with these specific subjects

01:20:33Why

01:20:34as was said before

01:20:35as he also said

01:20:36Lucarelli

01:20:37it is necessary

01:20:38that there is

01:20:38a subject

01:20:39let it go

01:20:40to constitute

01:20:41the charismatic leader

01:20:43I just have to think

01:20:44to the family

01:20:44by Charles Manson

01:20:45which is a subject

01:20:46so manipulative

01:20:48so able

01:20:48to subjugate

01:20:49the minds

01:20:50of his followers

01:20:51which is capable

01:20:52to make them do it

01:20:53a series of actions

01:20:54even very brutal

01:20:56but what happens

01:20:57that behind these actions

01:20:58there is one

01:20:59not all of them sorry

01:21:00they remember

01:21:01Charles Manson

01:21:02who was

01:21:03he was driving

01:21:04a so-called family

01:21:06who was responsible

01:21:07of the killing

01:21:08by Sharon Tate

01:21:09and spouses

01:21:11the white one

01:21:13I think they were called

01:21:14in that terrible

01:21:15that massacre

01:21:16terrible

01:21:16what happened

01:21:18in Hollywood

01:21:19in Beverly Hills

01:21:20in Los Angeles

01:21:22Yes

01:21:22rather in Bel Air

01:21:23to be precise

01:21:24but behind

01:21:24this action

01:21:26Exactly

01:21:27there was a drawing

01:21:28delirious

01:21:29clearly

01:21:30but there was a plan

01:21:31which was to carry on

01:21:32the war

01:21:33among the whites

01:21:34and the blacks

01:21:34Now

01:21:35what is the problem?

01:21:36that even admitting

01:21:37I would be very happy

01:21:39to find

01:21:40some elements

01:21:41concrete

01:21:41that I can

01:21:42convince

01:21:43to which the action

01:21:45of these subjects

01:21:46was coordinated

01:21:47and driven

01:21:48from a second level

01:21:49of wealthy people

01:21:50most important

01:21:51in turn

01:21:51covers

01:21:52from a third level

01:21:53because it would mean

01:21:54finally arrive

01:21:55to a truth

01:21:56for these victims

01:21:57and for families

01:21:58of these poor boys

01:21:59who were massacred

01:22:00but I can't find it

01:22:02a scientific foothold

01:22:03to this

01:22:04Why

01:22:04the group is not there

01:22:06there is no study

01:22:08psychosocial

01:22:08that can demonstrate

01:22:10this cohesion

01:22:10there is no project

01:22:11let's remember that

01:22:12who comes in quotation marks

01:22:13caught in the end

01:22:15faced with these facts

01:22:16then he cares about us

01:22:17to confess

01:22:18and to explain

01:22:19the reason for this action

01:22:20because I repeat

01:22:21had to carry on

01:22:22a project

01:22:23Now

01:22:23while admitting this

01:22:25I really find

01:22:26very difficult

01:22:27think

01:22:28that of people

01:22:28wealthy

01:22:30important

01:22:30they have entrusted themselves

01:22:31to a group

01:22:32of subjects

01:22:34quite unlikely

01:22:36rickety

01:22:37to be able to act

01:22:38in this way

01:22:38this is it

01:22:39that blocks me

01:22:40in defining

01:22:42this situation

01:22:43let me say

01:22:44Pacciani

01:22:45a farmer

01:22:46Truly

01:22:47semi-literate

01:22:48with a

01:22:48murder conviction

01:22:50behind

01:22:51the rapist

01:22:52of the daughters

01:22:52Lots

01:22:53mason

01:22:54alcoholic

01:22:55Vanni

01:22:56Postman

01:22:57which is what it is

01:22:58what do we say?

01:22:59bring out the definition

01:23:00some snack buddies

01:23:01and it is also

01:23:02let's say

01:23:03him too

01:23:03a character

01:23:04Very

01:23:05very sui generis

01:23:06and they are the only three

01:23:08that come

01:23:09put on trial

01:23:11as responsible

01:23:13of the crimes

01:23:13of the monster

01:23:14they are all three

01:23:15disappeared

01:23:16with their secrets

01:23:17and with their truths

01:23:18often contradictory

01:23:20but they were credible

01:23:21like monsters

01:23:22We see

01:23:23let's move on

01:23:23in this reconstruction

01:23:25going deeper

01:23:26these three characters

01:23:27Thank you

01:23:28Thank you

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