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Believe Me - Season 1 Episode 3
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00:12I had a big win at the casino earlier.
00:14Faulty great!
00:15Oh, Al.
00:16I was wondering if you'd have a drink for me.
00:19I think I was raped last night.
00:21I used to put something in my drink.
00:22If he did do something, why would he drive you to a police station?
00:24Stop saying if!
00:27Therefore, I do have to tell you that our investigation
00:29has been closed down.
00:30It just, it feels like you don't believe me.
00:32So this taxi driver offers you a drink and you take it?
00:36He was taking me home for a fiver.
00:38I mean, it's difficult to keep saying no.
00:40The taxi driver pushed this tablet in my mouth.
00:43If he did assault you,
00:44then it would be extremely unlikely for him to drive you home.
00:47His cab would be identified on university CCTV.
00:51They're asking how you want this designated as a crime.
00:53Just tell them not known at present.
00:56Because quite some time has passed,
00:58the substance you were given may not be present anymore in your blood.
01:03So how many times you've been out with this guy, then?
01:06Four?
01:06So pretty serious.
01:07Yeah, I like him.
01:10I have been informed, Layla,
01:11that the Crown Prosecution Service
01:13has declined to proceed with any charges.
01:16If you would like to come and collect your clothing and possessions,
01:19I can arrange for somebody to hand them over to you.
01:21You're going to need to hang on to them
01:22because one day you're going to need them as evidence
01:23when you realise you were wrong about me.
01:27I'd like to report a rape.
01:29He's a black cab driver.
01:31That's four attacks.
01:32And we haven't really got started on a proper search.
01:40Over there.
01:41He's a wee fat one.
01:42You see Mummy?
01:45Mummy, yeah.
01:46Who's that?
01:47Mummy!
01:48Hello, sweetheart.
01:49Look at that balloon.
01:51Hey, do you want her?
01:54Can I say hello to your baby brother?
01:57This is Lenny.
01:58Hello, Lenny.
01:59Can I touch him?
02:00Of course you can touch him again.
02:02Good boy.
02:06Oh, big grunts.
02:09How's it feel, Daddy?
02:12I can't believe it.
02:13What do you think?
02:14He looks pretty.
02:15Oh, he is pretty.
02:16He's very pretty.
02:18You're amazing.
02:19How are you?
02:21Yeah, my back's killing me.
02:23Leaking milk all over the place, but...
02:25Happy.
02:27What do you think?
02:28He looks lovely.
02:29You don't think...
02:3630 grand!
02:38On a scratch card!
02:40I couldn't believe it!
02:42I mean, like, something like that never happens to people like me, does it?
02:46Er, no.
02:47Never.
02:49Congratulations.
02:50Anyway, I can't drink because I'm driving, so this is on me.
02:57Cheers.
03:00Cheers.
03:00Cheers.
03:07Cheers.
03:10Cheers.
03:10No, I'm an idiot, really.
03:12You know, the first thing you do is you go and buy a bottle of champagne, then you.
03:15You win money as big as that, but, like, I'm driving, and I just didn't think.
03:20I'm so excited.
03:23What am I like?
03:34You won't believe some of the stories people tell me in this cab.
03:39What guys are prepared to pay for when it comes to sex?
03:42Can you let me out, please?
03:47Look, would you say...
03:50Give someone a blowjob for a lot of money?
03:52Like, you know, like, say five grand.
03:54Would you give a guy a blowjob for five grand?
03:57Look, I've texted my husband.
03:59He'll be waiting for me.
04:00See, yeah, you're a gorgeous looking girl.
04:03I love to have sex with you.
04:04You know, why not make a few quid on the side?
04:06Let me out.
04:07Open it.
04:07Just think of it as a bit of a laugh, really.
04:09Let me out.
04:11Hey.
04:13That's my husband.
04:15Let me out.
04:16Open it.
04:24You're really wasting my fucking time tonight!
04:29My team has now taken over this investigation, and the number of attacks we are investigating
04:34has now risen to five, after further searches of our database revealed another possibly linked
04:41sexual assault in June 2005.
04:43So the plan is to put out a press release on Friday morning, with the object of making
04:50the women of London aware that there is potentially a serial sex attacker out there driving a black
04:56cab.
04:57Why has a link between all these attacks only just been made?
05:00From what you've just told me, he's been doing this for a minimum of three years.
05:03So why wasn't a link spotted before now?
05:07Aren't your team supposed to be looking for links the whole time?
05:10The link was picked up during a routine review of sexual offences.
05:13Routine?
05:14Well, your other routine reviews couldn't have been very thorough then, could they?
05:17Not if this was missed for three years.
05:20We're doing all we can.
05:23One other question, why Friday?
05:26Why wait until Friday to get this out there?
05:30Plans have to be put in place.
05:32What about other girls going out in London tonight?
05:35They're in danger too, aren't they?
06:03No, no, no, no, no, no.
06:05Stop.
06:05You stay down there.
06:06Hmm?
06:06What?
06:08What are you doing?
06:10What are you doing?
06:11I'm'm doing it.
06:13I'm doing it.
06:38The key information is that we believe there is a black cab driver out there tricking women
06:44passengers into drinking a glass of champagne which he has drugged and then sexually assaulting
06:50those women. Typically he tells them he's had a win at a casino or on the lottery and
06:56that he wants them to celebrate with him. Then he offers them the champagne. Now we have
07:03linked five cases so far but we believe there are more which is why we're asking anyone who
07:09recognises this method or any method similar to this to come forward and help us identify this man.
07:16You won't believe what he said to me this time. I thought he was joking right but he says if
07:21I
07:21bought you a ring would you move in with me and I'm like what type of ring and then he
07:26says a
07:26friendship ring. What? Exactly I said you can get lost mate a friendship ring. Do you want me to be
07:32your house mate? Can I get veggie sausage please? He's taking the piss isn't he? Just the one?
07:38Yeah thanks. Rachel. What's up? I need the supervisor.
07:47A nurse? Works at a haven centre. Now she said she saw the sun today and in July of last
07:54year
07:54they dealt with a girl with an almost identical story. Driver said he'd won big at a casino or
07:59for the champagne that she was convinced was cropped. Well that's it. That's enough. Six victims.
08:04Yeah but the important bit is the cab was caught on CCTV at a university halls of residence.
08:10We've got a name and address for the driver. John Derek Warboys. Lives in Rotherhide.
08:16And four of them...
08:46The French Alive.
08:49What's all this about, mate?
08:50John Wall, boys.
08:53Yeah? I'm a police officer.
08:55Can you come down and open the door, please?
09:01Now, I've been out working all night. What do you want?
09:04Come down and open the door.
09:16What is it?
09:18John Derrick, all boys.
09:19I'm arresting your suspicion of six counts of sexual assault
09:22between 2005 and 2008.
09:24You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence
09:26if you do not mention my question,
09:27something which you later rely on in court.
09:35We're on the way back to something liquidy now.
09:37House is being searched.
09:39Why didn't she flag, Dave?
09:41The girl then has told us about.
09:43Yeah, right. I, um, I checked that out.
09:47Seems it wasn't ever recorded as a crime.
09:49So there's no criminal intelligence report in the system.
09:52What?
09:53It was only logged as a crime-related incident.
09:55But that's against protocol.
09:57The starting point is that she should be believed.
10:17I just veiled up to it.
10:21I don't know.
10:21I don't know.
10:21I love this.
10:39I don't know.
10:41I don't know.
10:45They want to know you.
10:46suspect was arrested earlier today so we are now asking any women who think they may have been
10:51attacked by this man to please come forward they may well feel that something has happened to them
10:58but might not be certain what but it's important for everyone who recognizes this man's behavior
11:04to get in touch with us as a matter of urgency do i admit making a mistake getting into the
11:11back with her could say got in the back to help her find her stuff and she flashed her tits
11:17at me
11:20and what would you say to any women who do come forward who are perhaps feeling scared
11:24or vulnerable i would say that they will be supported that they will be listened to
11:32and that they will be believed
11:38i'd go coast me over phuket every time every time i mean both in thailand but hannah said she sold
11:44three holidays in coast me in the last fortnight what do you think of coast me yeah it's all right
11:50i'm going there next year defo love coast movie oh she's wounding me up though hannah can you order
11:58some more a four can you get a coconut-scented candle can you go out and get me a coffee
12:02at
12:02almond milk not dairy i've actually got a question to ask you hannah what's your man's bloody slave
12:06dial uh i'm sorry i think i've forgotten something you what um can you just just tell hannah i won't
12:12i won't be a minute
12:34it didn't even warn me it's him isn't it yeah yeah it is it is him it's exactly what he
12:46did to me
12:49why am i finding out about it from a newspaper oh what the fuck what the fuck am i supposed
12:55to do
13:01i'm just feeding the baby are you watching the news what just turn the news on now icv
13:08one second
13:13typically he tells them that he has won some cash at the casino or on the lottery then he offers
13:19them a
13:19drink of champagne which he has drugged most of the women who have so far come forward have no memory
13:26of what happened in the period after drinking the champagne they uh said at the start the report
13:32that he was a black cab driver
13:34me it's exactly how you said it happened they wouldn't listen to me i thought i was going mad
13:42you've got to call them sarah no
13:46oh i can't go through that again
13:51please just think about it i haven't even told gav what happened
13:57i was told by a friend about the story in the sun newspaper today and when i read it i
14:03knew
14:03straight away that this man had done something similar to me
14:09yes it was in july of last year i was told when my case was going to be closed down
14:15that one of your
14:15officers didn't think a black cab driver would risk his license by assaulting a fair that that is what
14:20was said to me look what i want to know is if the man who was arrested today is the
14:27same man who
14:28attacked me last year can you at least tell me that please i i don't need a name
14:39okay thank you very much i've got to go now
14:46it's the same man
14:51a long time ago five years ago before i met you
14:59i was raped
15:03but nobody believed me the police didn't believe me not even connor believed me
15:14um the man who did it he's done it to other women too and he's just been arrested
15:23come here um it's so sorry i don't need to cuddle
15:29they've put it behind me and that's where it's gonna stay
15:33they've asked people to come forward but i've not gone to
15:39you have to go to the police sir it's enough that i know after all these years i was right
15:47that that man did drug me he did attack me
15:54beyond that i don't want to waste any more of my life on him
15:57that's what i thought of him
16:11okay let's start with the allegations of you touching female passengers in your cab in a sexual way
16:19How do you respond to this?
16:21No comment.
16:22Mr Warboys will not be answering any of your questions tonight,
16:24as is his right, but he has prepared a statement
16:27which he is prepared to read out to you now.
16:31OK, John.
16:32Let's hear what you have to say.
16:49I am innocent of all the allegations that have been put to me.
16:54I have never made sexual contact with any passenger whilst in my cab
16:58and I have also never administered any form of drug to a passenger
17:02also whilst in my cab.
17:09I am innocent of all of these allegations that have been put to me
17:13and offended that anyone would think that I,
17:16as a respected black cab driver,
17:18would be capable of behaving in this despicable manner.
17:26I'm completely innocent.
17:29OK, John.
17:31You will be detained for further questioning
17:33and we're also going to need some swabs and a DNA sample from you.
17:53It's been white hot all day.
17:55How many link cases?
17:5743.
18:0043 positively linked.
18:02Same description, same murder's operandi.
18:04And that number is only going to rise when the line's open again tomorrow.
18:0743?
18:08Yeah.
18:08I mean 43.
18:12What is happening here?
18:38What is happening here?
18:48I just want to get it all straight in my head before I call them.
18:52A cup of tea?
18:54Yeah, please. Thank you.
18:56Come here, you...
19:02I called him a lovely man.
19:06He gave me a cigarette and I said he was a lovely man.
19:14It can't be that I fucking said that to him.
19:18You're doing the right thing.
19:25Come on.
19:29Why did nobody tell me that you were going to arrest this man?
19:35Very sorry about that.
19:37Why did I have to find out about it through the newspapers and the TV?
19:40The answer is to do with the original team who investigated your complaint.
19:46It seems they only recorded it as a crime-related incident and not as a crime.
19:53So your details and the details of the complaint were never properly in the system.
19:59Right.
20:02Right.
20:05Because, you know, they...
20:08They didn't really believe anything that I said.
20:10I'm not going to sit here and try and defend the original investigation.
20:12Good.
20:13Because it appears that mistakes were clearly made.
20:18To be told effectively that I was lying was devastating.
20:25Do you understand that?
20:29Absolutely devastating.
20:33And I've had to live with that for the last five years.
20:38My parents were devastated when I left uni.
20:43But I've never told them, or my brothers, what happened to me.
20:49Because we're not that kind of family.
20:51So when the police, the only people that I thought would support me,
20:58turn their backs on me, that left me totally alone.
21:01Well, if the CPS had reviewed the evidence in your case, perhaps there might have been a different outcome.
21:06But unfortunately, that is...
21:07Wait, wait, sorry.
21:09Did you...
21:11Did you just say that the CPS did not review my case?
21:16No.
21:20I was told that the Crown Prosecution Service had looked at all the evidence
21:26and decided not to proceed,
21:28which is why they closed the investigation in the first place.
21:35No, I can tell you that the CPS did not review the evidence in your case.
21:40The decision to close your investigation was made by the senior officers overseeing it.
21:48They lied to me.
21:50I am sorry to say we haven't been able to locate your Achieving Best Evidence video
21:55or any of the items of clothing you told us about.
21:59What?
22:00None of the items you were wearing that night were where they should have been in the evidence store.
22:11I reckon they got rid of all my evidence when he was arrested
22:14because they knew it would make them look bad.
22:16I don't know if that's the case.
22:19I only hope that it isn't.
22:20Now, I'm guessing they were looking for the classic date rape drugs,
22:24such as Rhypnol and didn't find any.
22:25No, no, no.
22:26But they told me that they found nothing.
22:27Like I was...
22:28Like I was lying?
22:30Like I was lying about being drugged.
22:32That's...
22:32The test showed diphenhydramine,
22:34which is the active ingredient in nitro,
22:36was found in your urine.
22:38Okay, so if they'd have just...
22:41asked me,
22:42I could have told them
22:43that I've never knowingly taken that drug in my life.
22:47There were drugs in my bloodstream.
22:49Yes.
22:50Citalopram,
22:51codeine,
22:52morphine.
22:53Hang on.
22:54I've never taken citalopram,
22:56whatever it is,
22:56my bloody life.
22:58So,
23:00prescription antidepressant.
23:01Never taken an antidepressant.
23:03Okay.
23:03Why didn't they tell me
23:05they found these things in my blood?
23:07Why didn't they tell me?
23:11To feel like you're not being believed.
23:14And then to find out
23:16they couldn't even be bothered
23:17to do their job properly at...
23:23I can't explain to you
23:27how angry
23:28and brutalised
23:32and bewildered, I feel.
23:41I would say that, um...
23:43based on just this conversation today,
23:46you might have grounds
23:47for a formal complaint.
23:49And if you like,
23:50I could give you the...
23:51the details
23:52of who to take that to.
23:55And who would that be?
23:57It's a body called the IPCC,
24:01the Independent Police Complaints Commission.
24:05Yeah, I've heard about them.
24:08I work for a firm with solicitors.
24:12The IPCC,
24:13it's made up of ex-police officers,
24:15isn't it?
24:15Yeah.
24:17So the police market
24:18their own homework.
24:21I can tell you now
24:22they'll find that nobody
24:23did anything wrong.
24:53I can tell you now.
25:12Leila Mahmood.
25:13I feel like
25:40Cari Simons.
25:43Sorry.
25:50That's him.
25:54That's him.
26:01Sarah Adams?
26:23Oh, God, yeah, that's him.
26:34Oh, God, yeah, that's him.
26:40I was talking to Mrs. Purvis today at my art class.
26:45She said her daughter's decided she wants to study law.
26:49She said she warned her it's going to take many years of hard work,
26:53but the girl seems adamant.
26:57She doesn't even want to take a gap year.
27:00She's going to start in September.
27:04Admirable, don't you think?
27:12I'm going to the garden centre tomorrow if you want to come later.
27:17Pick up a few pots for the garden.
27:19Fancy it?
27:22No, I can't.
27:24Sorry.
27:25To work on Saturdays.
27:29Oh.
27:30Is that how it stinks?
27:31Yeah, OK.
27:33Work?
27:34I may enjoy it rather than enjoy it.
27:36You still smoking?
27:38Er, no, I've quit.
27:41I mean, very occasionally.
27:44I'm still trying to stop. Why?
27:47I'm just concerned about your health.
27:48My health's fine, isn't it?
27:50Yeah, well, that's good. That's good.
27:52But I just, I wanted to say I'm sorry.
27:56I saw the news.
27:59And I've read the papers.
28:01I'm sorry for not believing you.
28:12Jack, go back into the kitchen and get yourself a Snickers out of the fridge.
28:16Just go into the kitchen, just take whatever you want, but just eat it in there.
28:20Go on, mate.
28:28Sarah, I'm sorry.
28:29Like, I'm so sorry.
28:31I was in a room the other day.
28:34It was full of women waiting to do identity parades.
28:38It almost killed me.
28:44All these women who'd gone through what I went through,
28:48who would have been spared if...
28:52if they'd only believed me.
28:54Yeah, but you can't blame yourself.
28:56Can't I?
28:59Did I try hard enough?
29:00Yeah, you did. I know you did.
29:02Just...
29:03Sorry.
29:09You know what? Life's okay.
29:11I'm happy enough.
29:14Gavin's a nice guy and...
29:17We've got Lenny and I.
29:20I thank God every day for him.
29:26But I should have still been here, Connor.
29:30Living with you.
29:32Jack should have been living with his mum and dad.
29:36Should have been your wife.
29:39I loved you.
29:48That's how much this has fucked up my life.
29:55But thank you for your apology.
29:59I accept it.
30:05Jack?
30:10Uh...
30:10What's that?
30:13Go on.
30:19See you on Monday.
30:19Mm-hm.
30:21See you later, mate.
30:45We're gonna proceed in court with charges relating to 14 of the women he attacked.
30:5014?
30:52But there are loads more than that.
30:54The CPS wanna keep the case as simple as possible for the jury.
30:58They're worried it could get bogged down in too much detail.
31:01I'm not entirely sure I agree, but...
31:03Okay.
31:04We want you to be one of the 14.
31:07And give evidence in court against war boys.
31:10Me?
31:11But I'm still not sure what he did to me.
31:13That doesn't matter.
31:15You know, his offending had a pattern to it.
31:17And your experience exactly fits that pattern.
31:20And crucially, you had a really good recollection of most of your journey home with him.
31:28And the CPS also think that your mother's evidence about knowing that you weren't drunk,
31:34and she thought you'd been drunk, will also be helpful.
31:38So you want me to give evidence too?
31:39You want me to give evidence?
31:40So you want me to think about it.
32:00So you're not your health.
32:02You're not your mental...
32:02You're not your mental health.
32:04You're not your mental health.
32:05You're not your mental health.
32:12OK, so we've heard from the CPS.
32:15The plan is that 14 of the women are going to speak in court.
32:20But they won't be asking you to testify.
32:26Why?
32:27Well, the thing is, you...
32:28You didn't pick him out in the ID parade.
32:33It'd been a long time, and he looked really different with me that night.
32:37And because so much evidence from your case has been lost...
32:40Fucking destroyed, in my opinion!
32:45It's about not giving the defence an opening, Sarah.
32:52That's hard.
32:54Because I wanted to look the bastard in the eye
32:56and tell everybody what he did to me.
33:00I wanted to have my moment in court.
33:04I wanted to look him in the eye and say,
33:06yeah, I'm sending you to prison, because that's where you belong.
33:11I know. I'm sorry, Sarah.
33:14Sometimes in these...
33:15these big cases, it's easy to overwhelm a jury.
33:19So the strategy is to...
33:21to stick to the offences
33:23where we've been able to collect
33:24the most comprehensive evidence.
33:28I'm 14. Is that enough?
33:30Well, the CPS aren't confident
33:32that this will give the trial judge
33:34enough ammunition to put him away
33:36for a long, long time.
33:44Mr. Warboys
33:45freely admits
33:46a good deal of the circumstances
33:48surrounding these events.
33:50For instance, he has always
33:52actively sought to engage
33:55female passengers in conversation
33:57in his taxi cab.
33:59banter, as he calls it.
34:01And he sometimes did this
34:03by telling them
34:05falsely
34:06that he had won money that night
34:08through gambling
34:09and by showing them a bag
34:11filled with cash.
34:12But he says this was simply
34:14a conversation starter
34:16and his objective was not
34:18sexual.
34:19It was simply female company.
34:20It was an icebreaker
34:23in that respect.
34:25He is adamant
34:26that any sexual contact
34:28between him and any woman
34:30in his taxi
34:31was consensual.
34:33That it was non-penetrative
34:35and that it was initiated
34:37by those women.
34:44No, I don't remember
34:45feeling scared that night.
34:47You didn't feel threatened
34:48by Mr. Warboys?
34:50No, I actually thought
34:51he came across
34:52as sort of pathetic.
34:53Not some sort of
34:54predatory monster.
34:55Just a normal taxi driver
34:57engaging in some banter
34:59with you.
35:01I actually think
35:02that harmless demeanor
35:04is what makes him
35:04so dangerous.
35:06Precisely because
35:07he puts you off guard
35:08as he hands over
35:09his drinks from the front.
35:10He's like a
35:12professional con man.
35:14It's clear.
35:15Would you agree
35:16that your daughter
35:17had been drinking
35:17that night?
35:18A few drinks.
35:20Correct.
35:21So I put it to you
35:22that it's reasonable
35:23to assume
35:24that she was intoxicated?
35:26I've never seen
35:27her intoxicated.
35:29She rarely drinks
35:30alcohol.
35:31She was in distress.
35:33She was
35:34insensible.
35:35She was like a rag doll.
35:37There was something else
35:39in her system.
35:40She was vomiting
35:41continuously.
35:43You don't get like
35:44she was that night
35:45just from a few drinks.
35:57I swear by Allah
35:58that the evidence
35:59I shall give
36:00shall be the truth.
36:01The whole truth
36:02and nothing but the truth.
36:09two large glasses
36:11of red wine.
36:14Yes.
36:15And you drank those
36:16and then you go
36:18to the toilet
36:18and you are sick.
36:21Yes.
36:22I sometimes get
36:24nauseous
36:24when I'm on my period.
36:26But that was not
36:27going to deter you
36:28from your plans
36:29for that evening
36:29and you went back
36:30to your friends
36:31and carried on
36:32as normal.
36:33In your statement
36:34you say you then
36:35had two vodkas
36:36and lemonade.
36:39Yes.
36:40And did your drinking
36:41stop there?
36:43Or did you have
36:44rather more to drink
36:45that night
36:46than you've told us about?
36:48Not that I remember.
36:50Shortly after you
36:50got into his taxi
36:51Mr. Warboys
36:52handed you a glass
36:54of something bubbly.
36:56Maybe champagne
36:57or something like that.
36:59And you drank that?
37:01Two.
37:03Yes.
37:05Why?
37:06Because he
37:07forced me to.
37:10He wouldn't take
37:11no for an answer.
37:12Oh but he's driving.
37:13He's in the front
37:14of the cab.
37:14Yes but he just
37:15he kept persisting
37:17and persisting
37:18and persisting.
37:19But he can't actually
37:19force you to drink it
37:21can he?
37:21Well he forced me
37:22to take the pill.
37:23We'll come to that
37:24in a minute.
37:24My question to you
37:25is why you felt
37:26you had to drink
37:27that champagne
37:28when you were
37:28not obliged to.
37:32Because
37:36he wouldn't take
37:38no for an answer.
37:39Or is the reality
37:40that he was being
37:41a very chatty
37:42and personable
37:43taxi driver
37:44engaging in some
37:45banter with you
37:46who'd offered you
37:47a drink
37:48and which you had
37:49accepted and drank
37:50perfectly happily?
37:52No.
37:54You say you remember
37:56him getting into
37:57the back of the cab
37:58with pills in his
37:59hand and that he
38:01forced one into
38:01your mouth, right?
38:03Yes.
38:04And what are you
38:05doing to resist?
38:09Well I'm
38:12trying to
38:14move him away
38:15from me.
38:16So you were
38:17perfectly able
38:18to struggle
38:18and resist?
38:19Yeah.
38:21But you don't
38:21mention struggling
38:22and resisting
38:22in your police
38:23statement.
38:28Well if it's
38:29not there
38:30it's not there
38:31but I was
38:32I was feeling
38:33quite drowsy
38:35after he made
38:35me drink the
38:36champagne.
38:36And after the
38:37pill went down
38:38your mind
38:38is pretty much
38:40straight away
38:41a blank
38:42thereafter?
38:43Yes.
38:45So we really
38:46are in the
38:46realms of
38:47almost instant
38:49unconsciousness.
38:52Yes.
38:52That's right.
38:53Well I suggest
38:54to you that
38:55you'd already
38:55consumed a large
38:56amount of
38:57alcohol before
38:57you got in
38:58Mr. Warboy's
38:59taxi.
38:59And that he
39:00did not give
39:00you a pill
39:01or force it
39:02down your
39:02throat.
39:03Do you
39:03disagree with
39:03me?
39:04Yes.
39:05And you
39:06can't make
39:06up your mind
39:07whether you
39:07could or
39:08couldn't fight
39:08him off or
39:09did or
39:09didn't have
39:10a lot to
39:10drink or
39:11pretty much
39:11anything else
39:12that night
39:12because you
39:13were so
39:14intoxicated.
39:29Layla.
39:30I just
39:31want to
39:31thank you
39:31for giving
39:31evidence.
39:32I don't
39:33think there's
39:33any doubt
39:34he'll be
39:34found guilty.
39:36I thought
39:36you held
39:36up really
39:36well in
39:37there.
39:38Did
39:39you?
39:39Yeah.
39:40Yeah.
39:41That was
39:41tough.
39:43Layla,
39:44can I
39:44get you
39:44anything,
39:44a cup
39:45of tea?
39:45No,
39:45thanks.
39:46I'd just
39:46like to
39:46go home.
39:47I'm
39:48Debbie
39:48from the
39:48police
39:48press
39:49office.
39:50I just
39:50wondered
39:51if you'd
39:51consider
39:51waiving your
39:52anonymity and
39:53providing us
39:53with some
39:54media
39:54interviews.
39:55What?
39:56We just
39:57thought if
39:57someone could
39:58stand up,
39:59someone articulate
39:59like yourself
40:00and talk about
40:01what had
40:01happened to
40:02you,
40:02this might
40:03encourage more
40:03women to
40:04come forward.
40:04No.
40:05No,
40:06I can't,
40:06I can't do
40:07that.
40:07I'm sorry.
40:09You've got the
40:09wrong person.
40:10Sorry.
40:27Hi,
40:27I'm sorry,
40:28I'm Sarah.
40:29Do I know you?
40:30I've been through
40:31exactly what you've
40:31been through.
40:33Have you got time
40:34for a coffee?
40:36I wanted to
40:37punch that
40:38fucking barrister
40:39in his stupid
40:40face.
40:42Like,
40:43why is it
40:43okay for him
40:45to make out
40:45I'm a liar?
40:46He was going
40:47through every
40:47tiny thing in
40:49your statement
40:49in minute detail
40:50just trying to
40:50find some
40:51little thing
40:51to pick away
40:52at.
40:52Why is that
40:53still happening?
40:54I was raging
40:54too,
40:55just watching.
40:56What is the
40:56point of this
40:57farce?
40:57He's fucking
40:58guilty.
41:00You know,
41:00I've been
41:00looking into
41:01bringing a
41:01complaint against
41:02the police
41:02for the way
41:03they treated
41:03us.
41:04With me,
41:05there was
41:05so much
41:06stuff that
41:06they missed
41:07out in the
41:07first few
41:07weeks.
41:08It was
41:08just
41:08ridiculous.
41:10Yeah,
41:10but it's
41:11their own
41:11disciplinary
41:11people,
41:12isn't it?
41:13What's the
41:13point?
41:14I'm not
41:15talking about
41:15going through
41:15the IPCC.
41:17I want to
41:17make some
41:17proper noise.
41:19I'm looking
41:20into suing
41:20them.
41:21Suing?
41:23Yeah.
41:24There's a
41:25lawyer I've
41:25been put in
41:26touch with
41:27who might be
41:28prepared to
41:28take it on.
41:29She's called
41:30Harriet Wistrich.
41:31She's got a
41:31great reputation.
41:34But I've
41:34I can't do it
41:35by myself.
41:36I had a quick
41:37chat with her and
41:38she said it'd be a
41:38much stronger case if
41:39there was someone
41:40else who had been
41:41through the same
41:41thing.
41:42So you're asking,
41:45do I want to sue
41:46the police with you?
41:48Well, yeah.
41:50You don't have to
41:52make a decision.
41:53Yes.
41:54What?
41:55Yes.
41:56Let's sue the
41:57bastards.
41:58Oh.
41:59Great.
42:00Yeah.
42:20You developed and
42:22perfected a web of
42:24deceit that was
42:26sufficient to ensnare
42:27the young,
42:28intelligent and
42:29sensible women
42:30who had enjoyed a
42:31night out and
42:32whose only mistake,
42:33as it turned out,
42:35was to get into
42:36your cab late at
42:37night.
42:39There is no doubt
42:40that you continue to
42:41constitute a
42:42significant risk of
42:43serious harm through
42:45the commission of
42:46further offences.
42:48I therefore pass down
42:49on you an
42:50indeterminate sentence
42:51of imprisonment for
42:52public protection,
42:55with a minimum
42:55custodial term of
42:56eight years.
43:14I wouldn't worry
43:15about the eight years.
43:17As I understand it,
43:18the judge had to give
43:19a number, but a
43:20parole board still
43:21has to decide if it's
43:22safe to release him
43:23when I can't see
43:24that happening.
43:25Eight years did
43:26spook me a bit.
43:28Yeah, he's not
43:28getting out.
43:30Anyway, Carrie,
43:31thanks for agreeing
43:32to do some
43:32interviews.
43:33I think if
43:34someone like
43:35yourself, someone
43:36so articulate,
43:37can stand up,
43:38then it will
43:38encourage more
43:39women to come
43:39forward.
43:40I'm nervous,
43:40but if it gives
43:41others a voice,
43:42it seems like the
43:43right thing to do.
43:44Thanks again.
43:45I'll start to get
43:46some things set up,
43:47okay?
43:47Okay.
43:48Thanks, Carrie.
43:50What have you got
43:51to do?
43:51Oh, just some
43:52interviews about
43:53what happened to me.
43:54They need someone
43:54to waive their
43:55anonymity and be
43:56a focal point.
43:57My goodness,
43:58do you think
43:58that's a good idea?
43:59You're so young.
44:00Do you want this
44:01hanging over you?
44:02What?
44:04They said it's
44:05important that
44:05more people come
44:06forward.
44:09I'm just sick of us
44:10all being on the
44:11back foot, Mum.
44:16Could he really
44:16get out that soon?
44:18Because the thought
44:19of him ever being
44:19released terrifies me.
44:21Me too.
44:21Well, theoretically,
44:23yes.
44:24After eight years,
44:25he could apply for
44:26parole, but in order
44:28to do that, he'd
44:29first have to admit
44:29to what he's done.
44:30And his position has
44:32consistently been that
44:33he is totally innocent.
44:35Right, so not just a
44:36psycho, a fake psycho.
44:38So his position is
44:39105 women have all
44:41just made it all up.
44:42It's up to 105 now.
44:44Well, I was told the
44:45actual number might be
44:46nearer 500.
44:48Is that correct?
44:49That's what the police
44:50said.
44:51So what do you think,
44:52Harriet?
44:53There's potentially
44:54hundreds of women out
44:55there who have
44:56suffered needlessly
44:56because the police
44:57didn't do their job
44:58properly.
44:59They shouldn't be
44:59allowed to get away
45:00with what they've
45:00done.
45:01Well, neither of you
45:03qualifies for legal
45:04aid, so you're asking
45:05me to take this on on
45:06a no-win, no-fee
45:07basis?
45:09Afraid we are, yeah.
45:12OK, firstly, the
45:14problem is you can't
45:15sue the police for
45:16negligence.
45:17Why not?
45:18The law states that
45:19if they could be sued,
45:20they wouldn't be able
45:20to do their jobs
45:21properly because they'd
45:21always be looking over
45:22the shoulder waiting
45:23for the next writ.
45:24It's just how the law
45:25is, I'm afraid.
45:28But my advice would be
45:30to pursue this under
45:30the Human Rights Act
45:32and argue that the
45:33police's actions...
45:34Or inactions.
45:35Or inactions.
45:37Infringed on your
45:38right to not be
45:39subjected to
45:39inhuman or degrading
45:41treatment.
45:42Well, that exactly
45:43describes what
45:44happened to us.
45:45Yes.
45:46The only problem is
45:47that it's never
45:48been done before.
45:50And, um, in your
45:52case, Sarah, there
45:52is a statute of
45:53limitations issue.
45:55You must take an
45:55action within one
45:56year, and it's been
45:57five years since the
45:58police investigated
45:59your case.
46:00And in your case,
46:01Leila, they could
46:01argue that, however
46:02ineffective their
46:03initial investigation
46:04was, they did
46:05ultimately arrest the
46:06correct man.
46:08should we close the
46:09door on the way
46:09out, then?
46:10But the first
46:11thing I would do
46:12is I would
46:13contact the police
46:14and declare our
46:15intentions.
46:16Now, they will
46:17jump up and down,
46:17tell us we don't
46:18have a legal leg to
46:19stand on and that
46:19we're out of time,
46:20but they will have
46:21to disclose to us
46:23statements and
46:24other evidence.
46:26And I'm betting
46:27that will throw up
46:28some pretty
46:29interesting stuff.
46:31And I'll see you
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