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The Harry Hill Show - Season 1 - Episode 03
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00:14hello there i'm harry hill and this is my show
00:20hello and welcome to the harry hill show now a number of you have written to me saying how
00:24come you never aged harry how come you look exactly the same as you always have well
00:28i actually take an anti-aging tincture that was given to me by an ancient medicine man called
00:34lionel on the island of um on the island of teacut uh i just take a little bit of that
00:39every day
00:40and uh as long as i take that then i look pretty much exactly the same in fact i haven't
00:45taken my dose today i uh and if i don't have it of course i do start aging let me
00:50just uh
00:50oh i can't find it i can't find my aging
01:06i found the bottle
01:15that's better the guest is here daddy oh in that case let's welcome our guest
01:26it's cmat it's cmat welcome cmat hi thanks for coming down thank you you're looking really
01:34really well oh my god thank you so much i i'm actually 61 years old as well oh really yeah
01:41i take the same thing that you take oh the anti-aging tincture anti-aging tincture from the
01:45from the lionel the medicine man yeah yeah have you had your dose today i don't think i have oh
01:53no oh
01:53so that means that means
02:01what's it oh no what's happening daddy what's happening to cmat i don't know carrie i think
02:07probably she because she's mr daily dose of
02:12this is mr daily dose oh c-mats quick look have some of have some of mine you wouldn't have
02:21any spare
02:22oh brilliant just have it oh oh brilliant this one's on me
02:33okay that's really good thank you it works isn't it yeah it does i mean it works surprisingly quickly
02:39that and you know i actually drank some of the liquid that was in that bottle and i believe that
02:43might have actually been vodka based it might have been a little bit of vodka i think lionel did
02:48use use a bit of vodka to mix the sort of herbs and spices and everything that he used the
02:53ancient
02:54recipe keeps it sanitary so cmat listen i i feel like almost uh i know you because i'm such a
03:02big
03:02fan of your record euro country thank you harry and normally what happens with me is that you know
03:08one of my kids says to me oh you must listen to this dad but on this occasion it was
03:13the opposite way
03:13around ice i think i saw you on um uh was it glastonbury maybe it was glastonbury yes i did
03:19that one
03:19fantastic thank you and uh and so i found myself in dublin uh the vicar street um venue and uh
03:29and i
03:30filmed that little tribute to you you did did you feel like it was a tribute i am i can't
03:37say that
03:38anyone in the in the time of my career has been more disrespectful
03:45about what it is that i do and what it is that i am but i loved it i loved
03:49it very much because i'm a
03:50very big fan of yours also harry well should we remind ourselves of that uh of that clip
03:55who could that be who could that be oh hi harry seen that what are you doing here
04:04i mean i it's the wig choice well it was a wig i had there just seen that
04:17it's it's so much of the song it's so much of the song as well you did
04:23it's all in the face isn't it yeah it is all in the face and you see i've got the
04:27top i've got that
04:28you got the top that we did on jimmy kimmel jimmy kimmel yes which i think is may have been
04:33a
04:33tribute from you to um gilbert o sullivan gilbert o sullivan it was indeed i haven't got my camera with
04:39me can't help you oh okay then i'll grab you the accent no it's not we need to talk about
04:47the
04:47accent maybe ting didn't i say ting or something oh okay then i don't sound like that but it's okay
04:52that you think that i do because it's fine but congratulations on the uh on the album thank you and
04:57of course you were nominated for the mercury music prize i was nominated again yeah and you
05:03looked like you were having a great time there i was i would have definitely had a better time if
05:08i
05:08had won actually yeah is the only thing i would say to that just remind us of i can't remember
05:14who
05:14did win the uh mercury music prize it was it was a little guy just just a little guy um
05:23horrible man
05:24really i have no time from it all called sam fender yeah i've heard he said he's called the bad
05:28boy of
05:29music because he's so horrible to everyone everywhere he goes i've heard that that he pushed someone into
05:34some nettles yes you hear that he did that to me as well when i was on tour with him
05:39he's always
05:40he's always bringing nettles with him everywhere so that he can go i was in a service station once
05:45you know using the stand-up toilet and he pushed me forward so i got it all over my trousers
05:50and he
05:52arranged for it to be held up in his home town newcastle yeah newcastle it felt like a fix yeah
05:59and he
06:00actually he chased me around afterwards gone i actually have a picture of it of him doing a
06:09rude gesture at me to brag that he'd won over me right yeah this is this is not a good
06:14man no because
06:15you've got to remember you know you can go up but you can also go you can go down yeah
06:20but you know
06:21what sometimes it's better not i think it's sometimes it's better not to win the thing sometimes it's
06:26better just to be nominated because if you win then suddenly all the pressure's on yeah yeah and
06:33there is an element i like to think that the reason i keep getting nominated for awards and never
06:39winning them is because you must have won one i i have the only award i have won is the
06:45choice music
06:45prize in ireland shadow ireland for giving me an award but the united kingdom has um is that the t
06:51same as the tv choice award over here no the choice music prize is like the irish mercury prize so
06:56it's
06:56album of the year which i won for my first record um but basically every time i've been nominated for
07:03an award in the uk i i don't win which is totally fine because i actually really like going to
07:09the
07:09award shows and in a way it's almost as if they're like we really want cmat to come to these
07:14award shows
07:14because i always wear a funny little outfit you look great but if i start on camera but if i
07:19start
07:19winning them then they can't justify me going anymore right you know what i mean if i was to start
07:24winning they'd be like oh we're sick of it they gotta lead you they gotta lead you in yeah yeah
07:28i think maybe it's kneecaps messed it up i think they might mess it up guys yeah they don't want
07:34us
07:34they don't want us winning anything at this point now see matt we have got uh an expert on you
07:39we've
07:39got um basically i don't know how you feel about ai you're probably a bit conflicted like all of us
07:45i
07:46don't feel actually good about it at all i'm actually not conflicted i actually dislike it yeah
07:51negative about it fully negative about it and i understand that because it has been used for bad
07:57so much but we actually have found a way to use ai for good we have a sarah the ai
08:03bot oh good so
08:05sarah stands for in fact um synthetic oh here she comes to it's sarah yeah sarah this is an example
08:12of of a good use of ai okay sarah used to work for the fujitsu uh company are the ones
08:19that introduced
08:19the um you know the horizon royal mail computer accounting system so she used to work for them
08:26now sarah say hello to cmat hi cmat oh brother can't hardly believe it she's here all praise to
08:32the flame-haired goddess of pop would you like a twix come on take the twix oh dear i overstepped
08:39the mark
08:39sorry okay all right so you can take the twix can i take the twix you can try to
08:48she's not i think she's changed her mind about this she's changed her mind about the twix thank you
08:53sarah all right so now sarah's going to tell us a bit about you um from the research she's done
08:58off you go okay here goes pira mary alice thompson known professionally as cmat is an irish musician and
09:06singer her songs are mournful yet accessible emotionally literate and cleverly crafted
09:11but crucially with a huge sense of humor god knows we need that at the moment early life
09:18cmat was born in dublin and moved with her family to cloney and dunboyne in county meve as a child
09:23she
09:24returned to dublin to study at trinity college dublin but later dropped out and moved to denmark for
09:29three months yeah so you went to trinity timeline's a bit wrong but i did in fact go to trinity
09:35college
09:35yeah yeah why'd you why'd you duck out of that cmat that seems crazy um i had what we would
09:41call a full
09:42nervous breakdown you had a nervous breakdown so it's a little bit inappropriate for me to sort
09:47of probe about that maybe a little bit naughty very naughty sarah that you've led me down
09:52sarah how could you do oh daddy you've done it again shut up gary oh i'm sorry to hear that
09:58when it's a very high pressure environment i imagine they do you know what university is not
10:02for everyone and not everyone has to go yeah and i think that that is fine and it's very expensive
10:07and
10:08i was a smart girl and i loved books and i loved learning and stuff but actually i just wasn't
10:13supposed
10:13to be in a university just wasn't for me in my brain yeah so i just had to skedaddle and
10:18i started
10:18working in a shop and then making music basically in my spare time right so with the music thing where
10:24did you get the interest in music from you from a musical family or not at all my family are
10:29all
10:29like nurses basically my so i i've three siblings one of them is a teacher and the other two are
10:36nurses
10:37and then my mom is a nurse and a lot of my like cousins and aunties and uncles and stuff
10:42are all in
10:44pop star um nurses and pop star i just it's a really weird thing like we grew up in like
10:52a
10:53quite a normal place in dublin 15 like a normal council state uh sorry housing state and um i just
11:01thought i was meant to be a pop star right yeah i just thought i was supposed to be a
11:04pop star like
11:05i literally was probably seven years old and i was like mom why have you not brought me to hollywood
11:10yeah i need to go and audition for the disney channel and become a huge star and we'll all
11:15make so much money and she was like you're delusional shut up and go upstairs i was like no i
11:20just always
11:21loved music and i always loved pop stars yeah me too loved pop stars who were the pop stars that
11:27you
11:27liked the number one pop star for me growing up was samantha mumba because she was from dublin right
11:34and she had i wanna love you if you don't love me don't wanna need you if you don't need
11:43me to
11:44there's that one and there's all the show me where i belong tonight give me a reason to stay
11:51see the moves they look great all that um and i loved obviously ireland was pretty good at producing
11:57pop stars when i was five the one i like was dana you like dana yeah oh my god i
12:02love dana yeah i mean
12:03she was just lovely she was just lovely and she's i like the way that she sat on a stool
12:09when she won
12:09the eurovision yeah she's fat she's sitting she looked like it's like a little snow white didn't
12:14she she had that lovely black hair this is how she sat when she won the eurovision all kinds of
12:23everything remind me of you and she did it like that and i find that so cute so i also
12:28love dana yeah
12:29i actually did a wood carving of dana did you yeah i should have brought it in you should have
12:34brought it in perhaps flash uh perhaps i'll send it to you see matt would you like uh it's a
12:39full
12:40size wood just the just the head just the head yeah because i've tired of it i would absolutely love
12:48a wood carving of dana for my home we will get that i've actually been looking for wood so this
12:53is
12:53really good timing not for burning not for no no for my home okay just to be clear i've been
12:58looking
12:58for a focal piece i've just moved into a house and i don't have any furniture this is this is
13:03i think
13:04that's why uh i want to get rid of it because i've got other focal pieces what other focal pieces
13:08do you
13:09have um well i did i also at the same time did um which and this makes me sound very
13:14odd and and just
13:16to be clear i am the most normal person i know um i did errol brown from hot chocolate oh
13:23i love hot
13:23chocolate i love that band and i did uh les gray from mud during the lockdown okay and wood carving
13:31so are we talking it's whittling well i've got a big log uh from actually my brother's a farmer so
13:39he
13:40supplied these big logs and i got an axe and i basically you know hacked away at it and then
13:45i painted it
13:46with some these are enamel paints you get from bar you know when they paint barges yes yes i knew
13:53you'd know that i love barges well you're gonna love this uh dana thing i'm gonna get that i'm gonna
13:59get that i can't tell if this is real or not no it is real and it's absolutely real it's
14:04tragically too
14:04if i had a photograph i would show you i really want the i hope that this is real because
14:09if i don't
14:10get a dana wood carving really soon i'll be really upset you'll be i'm already visualizing the plinth
14:15that i'm going to put it on it's got its own plinth it's got its own plinth yeah when i
14:20say focal
14:21point i mean this is i'm going to put it in the middle of my sitting room in front of
14:25the television
14:25so we just look at dana all the time don't put it up next to a radiator i'd say because
14:30it
14:30the wood might the wood the wood would warp yeah the wood would work okay so that was a bit
14:35from
14:36sarah about you uh have you got anything to add to that sarah career see matt wanted to be a
14:42musician
14:42from a young age and relocated to manchester to pursue a career in music with her then boyfriend
14:48performing together as bad c english electropop singer charlie xcx advised see matt to reimagine
14:55her approach her debut studio album if my wife knew i'd be dead was released in 2022 the album
15:02entered the irish albums chart at number one she released a single called peter bogdanovich which
15:07came with a music video which featured her dressing as the late director if my wife knew i'd be dead
15:13won the choice music prize for irish album of the year yeah so that was your first album that was
15:18my
15:18first album yeah straight in at number one straight in at number one i've had three of them now so
15:23that's nice yeah three in a row again ireland the only country to give me trophies because every time
15:28you get a number one album you get a little trophy is there i'm just going to ask is there
15:32any money
15:32with the mercury music prize do you get like a oh there is how much i think it was 25
15:37grand yeah
15:38yeah so there's a reason to win i texted sam the next morning and i said can i borrow 25
15:43000
15:43and he was like oh i think i'm gonna donate it to a local charity yeah i'm like yeah i'm
15:50gonna
15:50donate it i'm gonna donate it to a local charity and i was like i'm still in newcastle
15:55i'm local yeah but also what does that what does that tell you about him that he can just give
16:00away
16:0025 you know what i mean did he need did he need the price i was looking to buy a
16:05damn
16:05bust at that time and i really could have done with the money i'm gonna say i think the mercury
16:09music prize should be means tested it should be about what you need not what about what's nice
16:17yeah no but the videos i mean this is what you've got is you've got this really uh interesting visual
16:22sense and not everyone has that and i think you do need that to be a really uh successful pop
16:29star
16:29thank you and that peter bogdanovich video is i mean that's such a weird do you like that music
16:35video i think it's great that's really really good something you need to know is that my boyfriend
16:41directed that music video and he is the biggest harry hill fan on the planet and he's incredibly
16:45incredibly jealous of me being here today but he actually i asked him if he wanted to come and he
16:51couldn't do it because he's too much of a fan he was too scared oh right he genuinely couldn't do
16:55it
16:55i do get that a lot seen that a lot of people i think he would have cried i and
16:59i think he might
17:00cry now that you've said that honestly this is crazy he's gonna lose his mind he's actually gonna
17:05cry i mean i think it's it's i mean that there's like a dragon with uh eyes that light up
17:10or there's
17:11a man in a hat peter bogdanovich yeah so i'm peter bogdanovich but then also i have like my ego
17:16which
17:17is the big giant three-man puppet which he made and it's like with the light up eyes and he's
17:22got
17:22light up eyes because he's like evil because your ego is evil it just seems like a very odd obscure
17:26reference peter bogdanovich it wasn't me no i thought it was normal yeah i love films and what
17:35they've watched the last picture show is that his one i think yeah the last picture show is like the
17:40first big one that he did but we kind of make reference to um what's up doc in the thing
17:48as well
17:48and paper moon so the big three that he would have done with polly platt which was his wife who
17:53he then ran away and left his wife for a young one when he made his first film um well
17:58that does happen
17:58a lot it does happen don't know that happened to you cmat now you've had three number one albums
18:04sarah do you have anything further to add cmat's next studio album crasmod for me was released in 2023
18:12it debuted at number one on the irish albums chart it was later nominated for the best album ivan avello
18:19award her third album euro country she describes as the best thing i have ever made was nominated for
18:26the mercury music award she performed at the 2025 glastonbury festival euro country debuted at number
18:33one on the irish albums charts and number two in the uk that's it you're up to date with cmat
18:38hold
18:39still while i take a sexy picture take a sexy picture of the twix drop
18:47do you like sarah's trousers do you know what i like how many twixes sarah seems to have
18:53it's really good do you want you can have that can i have that one as well yeah see it's
18:58very rude
18:59of me would you like a um would you like a would you like a chocolate i would love a
19:05chocolate please
19:06help yourself have a look there's any that take your fancy no not sure
19:17do you know what i think i think i'm all right because it's just a conquer it's just the conquer
19:22that's left i think all the the good ones always go first the acorns and the pebbles the conquer very
19:29believable as a delicious chocolate though well you can't have that because we need we've got um
19:33yeah limited budget we've got nish kumar coming in um so you're now what i like about your country
19:41and sarah did mention this is there's a lot of humor in your uh uh songs but i forgot what
19:49a song
19:50was called then song there's a lot of humor in your songs yes and i mean i'm just going through
19:55the sort
19:56of track listing the the titles are very to me are very funny would that be fair yeah i think
20:02the titles are
20:03often funny and some of the imagery but they're smart but i'm usually talking about something very
20:09sad well that is what's clever about it you know so you've got uh the jamie oliver petro station
20:15immediately you want to hear that i think yeah lord let that tesla crash now i don't think there's
20:24been like funny titles for songs since the smiths yeah you know like girlfriend in a coma and
20:30um what's it shoplifters of the world unite yeah is that would that be a reference i actually am a
20:36really big smiths fan i can't say i'm a morrissey no we've had to change our view on we've all
20:43had to
20:43change our view on morrissey but i really really when i was like 14 i went through that phase of
20:49only
20:49listening to the smiths yeah and only listening to music from manchester and i was like everything
20:54else is crap that's why you moved to manchester i think it kind of is a big part of the
20:58reason that i
20:58moved to manchester because i loved all of the music that came from there in the like 80s so much
21:04um i honestly i loved morrissey so much at that time i know i did let us down and you
21:10know i did
21:11him on stars in the rice did i do you know i've actually seen it i've actually seen it i
21:16don't
21:16know why i'm acting like i haven't seen it i've seen it yeah it's bad it's bad in fact you
21:21know uh
21:21the weird thing was i took it as a bit of a joke when they said it was really good
21:26money
21:26that they paid you in those days to do stars in the rice yeah a lot and um most money
21:32i'd ever got
21:33and you had to go up and i and i was just like thinking oh yeah yeah blah blah blah
21:37uh punch a
21:39bicycle on a hillside you know and um stars in the rice at the time was very very mainstream and
21:45it
21:45was seen as a big risk to go for a bit of indie and i was beaten by you know
21:51who beat me who kirstie
21:53young doing peggy lee oh i bet that was beautiful though was it well did she do fever she did
22:01yeah
22:01nice yeah yeah but and she stacked the audience with friends i think oh it was an audience you
22:07think it was a fix you think it was a fix just like the mercury prize no question no question
22:13you
22:14know when i saw you on glastonbury you do these fantastic dances see matt and so i assumed that
22:20you'd had some sort of training were you ever trained as a dancer do you have a choreographer
22:23or anything no no never trained amazing never trained i think i think actually to the trained
22:30eye that's obvious no but i think maybe maybe i make up for it with energy i don't know i
22:37love to
22:37you know i love to dance do you yeah i love to i mean i would never do strictly i'd
22:41never do like
22:42organized dancing but i like to sort of you know freestyle dance you'd be so good on strictly harry
22:46well maybe what are they doing what are they doing well they do ask me do they ask yeah yeah
22:52they ask me not every year but most years and why would you not do it i think now chris
22:56mccausland
22:57has done it you know he's a blind guy and he won and he's a comedian i don't think any
23:04comedian
23:04after that you're not gonna but bill bailey won as well that was before chris yeah that was before
23:10chris do you think no one's funny is gonna win after chris i think chris has ruined it for everyone
23:16he's blind and he can dance like you know he can he was amazing he was amazing it was
23:22breathtaking uh should we have a dance off oh yeah okay yeah fine yeah me first okay okay so i
23:29sit i just
23:29sit and watch how about this how about this how about this one that's really good
23:41yeah that's really good oh yeah yeah this one's really good yeah
23:48oh a bit of jagged it yeah there we are okay brilliant all right so your turn okay do i
23:54do i
23:55get to pick the music is it the same music is it different music
24:17yeah yeah i feel like i didn't get as loud as an applause but i wasn't as prepared as you
24:28were
24:28yeah i didn't feel that was cool i think i think that you may be no offense but i just
24:36think that
24:36maybe you had a bit of an upper hand because you knew what the music was going to be and
24:40i didn't
24:40know that it was going to be like a german hurdy-gurdy that i was gonna get are you accusing
24:45me of stacking
24:46it i think yet again we have another fix on our hands it's the mercuries all over again it's the
24:54hybrid hill show hello i'm chris witty yeah you know me from the kobe dads yeah got it i'm doing
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26:10my pear regency innovation now every week we have a theme for the show where we get an expert in
26:21to
26:21teach us about something we don't know necessarily a lot about so let's find out what the theme of the
26:25week is this week windmills so we are joined by reese torrington who is the chairman of the wimbledon
26:40windmill museum and the only uk museum dedicated to windmills and i'm surprised that there is only one
26:47museum dedicated to windmills reese hi reese hi good afternoon how are you doing in uh in wimbledon
26:56um well actually i don't know because i'm sitting in marbella this afternoon pretending to be in the
27:01sun but it's pouring the rain oh you're in marbella wow that's really nice yeah so there's money in
27:07windmills there is money in windows that's stuck out for some sun now i was gonna say why were you
27:12surprised that there's only one museum dedicated to windmills because there's lots of windmills that
27:17are open to the public but they tend to be about that windmill right yeah as opposed to windmills in
27:23general so we do both oh i see and is there a windmill in feel free to jump in at
27:28any time of course
27:29kira cmat sorry i should introduce you sorry reese this is this is cmat of course you're familiar with
27:36hi cmat yeah hi reese hi how are you i'm really good you're looking really relaxed on the couch
27:43thank you i feel really relaxed have you ever been to the windmill in brixton i have indeed yeah i
27:48bet
27:49you have they're our partners what they're your partners we sell their flower because they still
27:54make flower and we sell it i okay i didn't know it was working we might be talking about a
28:01different
28:01windmill because i'm talking about a venue a pub a music venue right famous for the
28:06windmill scene in southeast london there is a brixton windmill well that might be why it's called
28:12the windmill yeah has it got um like a big fan on top the um not off the top of
28:19my head i don't think
28:20so we're in brixton i mean you know we've moved ahead here uh but where in brixton is the actual
28:26working wind i've never seen a working windmill in in brixton um that's because it doesn't really work
28:31very well they have an electric motor inside all right which does produce flower okay there is a
28:38windmill there it's it's pretty much in the center there's a garden all around the outside a lot of
28:42people go there for the gardens right rather than the windmill so let's go down can we just go from
28:48basics uh firstries now these questions that may appear rather flippant but they're they're not
28:56intended it's for anyone tuning in who really is starting at the kind of bottom of the information
29:02ladder as far as windmills goes just explain to us what is a windmill a windmill is a way of
29:09using the
29:10power of the wind for free to take grain and turn it into flour right yeah that's nice and i
29:18specifically
29:19said windmill because there are other devices that look like windmills that don't make grain but do
29:26other things for example they pump water out of the dutch polders or the east anglian fens oh okay now
29:34this is something we were talking about uh sim but we were talking we just happened to be talking about
29:38windmills earlier didn't we i just i actually did because i just watched um a short youtube documentary
29:44recently on the dutch polders and i thought oh i thought all of the windmills in the netherlands
29:50kind of became um uh what's the words when they're not obsolete i thought all the windmills in the
29:58netherlands became obsolete when they reclaimed all the land back because they were just pumping out the
30:02water all the time because of the flooding yeah and are they obsolete no no no most of them still
30:10work
30:11wow well nature's a weird thing but you can't permanently reclaim land it will always see back
30:17in through the water table wow so those areas are always going to be damp and if you look at
30:23any dutch
30:24fields they're always going to have small canals small little ditches around the outside that fill
30:29up with water and those have to be pumped out and the easiest way of doing it is with windmills
30:35now
30:35they don't have to be big ones you might see lots and lots of small ones but they're all working
30:39pumps
30:40what is the um biggest windmill that you've ever seen uh reese in your experience there is um a an
30:49eight-story windmill that looks a bit like a lighthouse round because it's made out of brick
30:55and it's striped similarly with veins on it and and that is uh in just in cambridge so oh right
31:02still
31:02it's still there yeah because still there they do have something in common don't they the lighthouse and
31:08the windmill you know it's a fine line they do it's a fine line well look actually it's closer
31:14than you think harry because those windmills often are used as a way of sending signals now
31:20clearly lighthouse sends a signal stay away there's rocks here but um when windmills first started they
31:27were a fairly basic form of semaphore that you could send messages to people in the village to let
31:32them know what was going on right so what sort of messages would those be party tonight at the
31:37windmill would be that it could be it could be another one could be i've gone off for lunch so
31:43don't bother turn up with your cart i'm not going to deal with your grain until tomorrow right or
31:48something like that interesting but it could be something more important i mean just the same way as
31:52we have beacons that nowadays we use to celebrate coronations or whatever they would pass a message quite
31:59quickly given that you would bring the blades to the sails to a stop and that would be a way
32:05of
32:05sending a particular message so you'd have some basic things right that would be in your book and
32:10if you could pass that along from one minute to another right then you'd be sending the message and
32:15what sort of uh time are we talking about when the windmills first appear would you say they first appeared
32:22in iran in about the 8th century and the first ones were cropping up in europe in the 12th century
32:29and
32:30basically following that line from the middle east through balkans and whatever so and then through
32:36greece and then into northern europe right okay so the first ones were showed up here probably in the
32:43early 1600s right and where were those first ones well funnily enough in east anglia because it's very
32:51yeah and flat means wind uh and also due purpose flatulence means wind as well it does and what a
33:00surprise i wonder if that's related in any way i never thought well you make a good point because
33:08when i do tours for schools and whatever no it's okay compliments come for free
33:12what i do what i do tours for schools you do tours for schools well educational stuff it's amazing how
33:21much fun kids get out of a of a museum that doesn't have a single flat screen in it right
33:28they actually
33:29get to play with things they grind their own flour yeah there's so many words that we use in english
33:34language that come from elements of milling that we don't recognize as coming that being their origin
33:42but the language is full of them yeah go on then all right um for example before before you can
33:50grind any grain you have to go out into the fields and and that can be fairly hot and sweaty
33:54so to come
33:55cut down the uh the sheaves of wheat you take some water out with you and you put it into
34:01a little
34:02clay pot and at the end of the day you'd go into the pub and you'd want to have a
34:06drink and the landlord
34:08might refuse to serve you because you're swaying all over the place like you've already had six too
34:13many um and he'd say i'm sorry i'm not serving you your potty and that's because the clay pots that
34:20were out there that they were drinking from were covered in lead glaze and they were all slowly
34:24poisoning themselves with the lead oh i see so that's where the word potty comes from what about
34:30milling about good one yes milling about yeah i have no idea whether that's got anything to do
34:37with it it could well be i mean it could be um because you go around and around in circles
34:41um
34:43because we wind is like the other point i said wind could be for use for for grinding grain or
34:51for
34:51pumping water but equally well wind isn't the only way to grind grain all you're doing is looking for a
34:58power source so in some countries that could be a a horse or a person walking around and around in
35:05circles dragging one of these stones around or as in a lot of the cases in the uk it would
35:12be water
35:13it would be a water mill that description going around around in circles dragging a very
35:18heavy object is a little bit like a career in show business
35:23well only you would know that he'd come straight back he'd come straight back to me
35:30and so you i think you've answered this question do they still work there's still some uh working
35:35windmills yeah not working for profit but some of them work for uh for tourism tourism um we we turn
35:43our
35:43sales uh probably once a month right um but but that's not really to grind any corn there are downsides
35:50to
35:51really working with corn which is just like those dutch windmills in amsterdam they attract mice
35:57so if you're going to do a lot of things with flour and grain you've got all sorts of other
36:03hoops
36:03to jump through to make certain that it's not full of mice poo and whatever so most people just do
36:09it
36:09for demonstrations as opposed to making saleable flour brixton is the flip side it doesn't work as
36:15a wind powered windmill anymore but it does commercially produce flour from grain one last
36:20question race how do you feel about uh wind farms with these huge wind they call them windmills don't
36:28they still a lot of people do wind turbines they do winter how do you feel about very enthusiastic
36:34very enthusiastic because it's a great it's a great way of generating the same way as we do with
36:40the windmill using nature's power for free now not entirely for free but it's a downside freer than
36:47digging up coal and polluting the planet so no we're very enthusiastic about that and we have a working
36:52model of a wind turbine in the museum and part of the school tours is to make that link between
36:58what's
36:58happened through the centuries and now here's another use for wind turning the turbines that can put the
37:04lights on in your school great um windmills are back is what you're saying i think no windmills never
37:10went away never went away
37:15reese it's been lovely talking to you is there a website or some information that we should
37:20uh let people know about if they want to find more yeah www.wimbledonwindmill.org.uk
37:28fantastic all right reese thank you so much nice talking to you
37:33so cmatch what do you like on gardening horticulture that sort of thing um i used to
37:40really love it but i now live in london where there is no grass basically no we ate it all
37:47i'm afraid
37:47yeah yeah so not super good right now but um when i i lived with my nanny granddad for very
37:56many years
37:57and my granddad grows loads of our vegetables out the back there in dublin lovely well um let's find
38:04out as we play name the seed
38:11now in this a sealed ziploc bag yeah seem it i have got a box of actually it wasn't sealed
38:20that is naughty that is very that is very unprofessional i apologize
38:29you see this box here uh it contains a number of sachets of seeds can you see how many seeds
38:35it says over 8 000 seeds over 8 000 seeds to pick now i'm going to at random pick a
38:42sachet of seeds i'm going to take the seed out and um i'm going to place it on the name
38:50the seed
38:50display unit and i'm going to ask you to see if you can name it okay you up for that
38:56yeah what does
38:57the button do you'll find out okay yeah then for anyone watching at home who doesn't want to know
39:04what the seed is turn away now okay we just want once oh yeah we just want one seed really
39:14should
39:15i close my eyes until it's on the display unit you can close okay you might add to the drama
39:20so
39:20uh i'm going to place the seed on the display unit now i should explain the rules
39:27as the display use as the display i'm getting quite emotional about it yeah
39:33as the display unit rises okay you uh must look at the seed and decide whether you want to accept
39:40that seed or change that seed okay so do you want to name that seed or change it you have
39:45one
39:45opportunity to change the seed if you think you might be given a seed which you're more likely to
39:50recognize okay or you can go with the seed that you've been allocated okay all right is that clear
39:55yes that's really clear let's play name the seeds so you need to come okay yeah okay yeah i need
40:05to
40:05come on oh no i missed it now how tall do you see that i'm five foot um two and
40:12i'm wearing platform
40:14do you want to stand on the oh i can stand on this we've lost the seed
40:24and we nearly took see matt's eye out where's the seed all right i'll get another one it's
40:30the same we can find the seeds hang on hang on hang on it's the same packet okay it's the
40:38same
40:38packet okay so it's not exactly okay oh do you want to or do you want to change i think
40:45i might
40:46know what that wait can i press this and make the song happen again okay what do you see first
41:00you want to describe the seed so it's little yes it's a little seed um not the smallest not the
41:08smallest seed i've ever seen i would say poppy seed is smaller than that it's quite yellowish and it's
41:13quite it's quite round although not entirely can i touch the seed or is that illegal let me just
41:22you can touch you can touch the seed yeah yeah so oh look yes there's a different side of it
41:30it's
41:31actually more expressive in some ways isn't it so i feel like i'm going to put it back on the
41:36display
41:38are you ready to name the scene i'm actually getting quite competitive about this because i
41:44think i feel that i think i have a good idea of what it is are you looking for the
41:48latin name
41:52i'll be happy with the with the normal name whatever the opposite of a latin name is but
41:57either do you think i have to go for a specific a really specific breed or just a general breed
42:02general
42:03breed's fine i think it's a chili seed are you saying chili seed i'm saying it's a chili final
42:09final answer is it a chili seed it's not a chili seed i am so sorry seema so what happens
42:17now is
42:17i'm going to give you that hold your hand up for me i'm going to give you that seed and
42:22you're going
42:23to plant that seed and when it comes up you'll find out what that seed is okay that was name
42:30the seed
42:40gary's joke corner it's time for gary's joke corner now seema as you know my son gary uh from my
42:46first marriage hello yes i'm still here i'm handing the business over to him in 2030 i'm retiring from
42:52show business and so he's taking over so he is looking for jokes do you have a favorite joke that
42:56gary might be able to use yeah i have a favorite joke what do you call a donkey with three
43:02legs
43:03uh i don't know what uh let me just think uh donkey with three e is it uh eeyore no
43:10he always calls me
43:11that as a different donkey joke right it's a different donkey joke yeah it's donkey with three
43:15legs i'm not uh no i give up a wonky a wonky wonky donkey wonky remember good isn't it yeah
43:24wonky
43:25donkey i love that one so gary are you going to do your joke yes okay daddy don't make that
43:30noise gary it'll limit your appeal i've told you that daddy daddy daddy daddy every time i put a
43:37specific elo track on the turntable my wife jumps up your wife gary go with it harry it's just for
43:45the
43:45joke all right yeah my wife jumps up and shouts humbug sweet talking woman no mr blue sky
43:59it needs a bit of work guys yeah
44:02that is the sound that tells me that it's the end of the podcast
44:07you'll be you'll be relieved to hear see matt uh if you have a joke or a comment or anything
44:13you
44:13like really then do please um email it to us at podcast at harryhill.co.uk all the remains is
44:20to
44:20thank our expert reese torrington from the wimbledon windmill museum and of course our special guest
44:27c-mat butterfly in blue jeans hamster in a ship on top puppy in a poncho fluffy duckling with a
44:43bob
44:44butterfly in blue jeans these are the things of our dreams these are the things good night everyone
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