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Just how bad for the Miami Dolphins was Tua Tagovailoa's contract? Was it as bad as Deshaun Watson’s contract in Cleveland? The Joe Rose Show breaks it down.
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00:00That's weak. Somebody said, by the way,
00:01a texter said Tua would have short-hopped home plate
00:03and then say he's not as good as Sandy Alcantara.
00:10You guys, we need to leave him alone.
00:12He's moved on to Atlanta. We're going to pick
00:14up his salary. That's enough.
00:15That's the only mention we should have is we're picking up
00:18most of that salary. We're paying for that yacht trip.
00:19We're paying for 97 or 8%
00:22of that contract this year.
00:23I think they had to throw in like 1.3
00:26of the 50-something million.
00:28Anyway, we're over that.
00:30It's done. It's done.
00:35It's not done, but...
00:37It's never done.
00:39Watching ball out in Atlanta.
00:40I got news for you. We're going to have to hear about that all year.
00:43There's a whole bunch of things.
00:44Every guy that plays well that went to
00:46another team because we couldn't keep them,
00:48you guys, even though you understand
00:50the finances of what we've done
00:52and why they're gone. If Bradley Chubb
00:54ends up with 12 sacks and...
00:56Where is he? In Buffalo? Is that right?
00:58Yeah.
00:58See, Bradley Chubb twice a year,
01:00who was our best pass rusher last year.
01:01You know, these guys could have kept Tua.
01:03They thought he was any good.
01:05Yeah, that's true.
01:06That's a good point.
01:06Obviously, I mean, they're...
01:07Hell, they're paying him.
01:09You don't think those guys thought about it?
01:11Like, hey, do we just keep him?
01:13Oh, I think they asked those guys
01:15what they wanted to do.
01:16Yeah.
01:17So it was their decision.
01:19Coach Affley, I know you got to see him
01:20in that Thursday night game.
01:21He wasn't very good,
01:22but do you want him now?
01:24Wasn't very good in that last game
01:26on Thanksgiving,
01:26but would you want him to be,
01:30you know, your quarterback?
01:32You know there are people
01:33that are waiting for Tua to play well
01:35over there that are just going to jump us
01:36the second he plays well over there.
01:39I had somebody,
01:40one of these really, like,
01:41Looney Tunes Tua fans
01:42sent me the Malik video
01:44of him throwing the first pitch.
01:47Like, it has anything to do with anything.
01:49It has nothing.
01:50Of course not,
01:51but I'm telling you, man,
01:52these Tua people are waiting.
01:53Yeah, but they're...
01:55They're praying he plays well over there.
01:56They're one-wayers.
01:57They're a little fraudulent.
01:58I'll tell you why,
01:59because when he doesn't,
02:00they're not going to say anything.
02:02And when they do,
02:02they are going to...
02:03No, no, they'll say
02:04they didn't put enough
02:04around him in Atlanta.
02:06No, they won't do that.
02:07Yes, they will.
02:08They're not going to be allowed to do that.
02:09They got a good team.
02:11Not good enough, Joe.
02:12He's going to a good situation
02:13indoors, I might add.
02:14Not good enough.
02:16But, yeah.
02:17And every guy that's gone,
02:19it's somewhere else
02:20people are going to bring up
02:21when they get mad one day
02:23during the season
02:24and something happens.
02:25But, yeah.
02:26The quarterback thing,
02:27Malik's going to,
02:28for people that
02:29shockingly would still like Tua
02:31to be the quarterback here,
02:32we'll throw the Malik thing in there,
02:34which I don't understand.
02:37Love to run you through everything
02:39if you want to go through it again.
02:40Just let me know.
02:41I'll be more than glad
02:41to get you caught up
02:42on why he's not here right now.
02:45In case you forgot
02:45had a short memory
02:49and not bring up
02:51that we don't have
02:51enough around him.
02:52Nobody wants to hear
02:53there's not enough around him.
02:54And I understand
02:55nobody wants to hear
02:56there's not enough
02:57around Malik Willis.
02:58Like, show me you can play.
02:59You got guys,
03:00they're professionals,
03:02they're going to be good,
03:03the young guys
03:04got to develop fast,
03:05but I understand that.
03:07The people they hired
03:08made it very clear
03:09they think Malik Willis
03:10is a better player.
03:11Yep.
03:11They made that
03:11very, very clear.
03:12Yes, they did.
03:13I agree.
03:14Woody, you're right.
03:15Would have been very easy
03:15to keep Tua.
03:16And they didn't even say
03:17we're giving him a tryout.
03:18They said,
03:19we think he's got a chance
03:19to be the future.
03:22So, yeah.
03:23Somebody asked
03:24who pulled off
03:25the biggest heist,
03:26Deshaun Watson or Tua?
03:28Oh, no.
03:28Deshaun's by itself.
03:29Deshaun is, yeah.
03:31And now he's going
03:32to get a chance to start.
03:33They're saying
03:34he's probably going to start.
03:35He's going to be
03:36Shadour out.
03:37These Tua, like, tried.
03:39I mean, Deshaun Watson
03:40is just such a bum.
03:41What do you mean?
03:43Deshaun Watson's a loser
03:44and then he has all
03:45the off-the-field crap.
03:46I think he lost his mojo, man,
03:48during that time off.
03:49Well, they banned him
03:50from having masseuses
03:51come to his house, probably.
03:54He's all tight.
03:56You know?
03:57What's wrong with him?
03:57Loosen up a little.
03:59What's wrong with you, seriously?
04:01Where did you come up with that
04:03so you think if he could
04:04be allowed to have
04:05that private room
04:05in the hotel?
04:07I think it's the Tiger Woods
04:08theory with him.
04:11When you stopped doing
04:12what you were doing,
04:13that made you great.
04:14And Tigers were living
04:15all those other lives
04:16and he's got all those,
04:17you know,
04:17women around him.
04:18I'm going to tell you, son.
04:18I'm going to tell you
04:19the exact opposite.
04:19He had to straighten things out
04:20and lost his fastball.
04:23I think it's amazing
04:24when somebody can live
04:25the big lie
04:26in a relationship
04:27that long
04:28and be that dominant
04:30is incredible.
04:32Truly, like,
04:33you don't care
04:34or you're not worried
04:34or you, like,
04:35whatever's going
04:36through your mind.
04:37I think it's amazing.
04:40It's hard.
04:41I mean, he dominated.
04:43What he's,
04:43we may never see
04:45another guy
04:45that good ever again
04:46dominate a sport.
04:47And he was,
04:48while that was going on,
04:49I don't know
04:50at what point
04:51after he got married,
04:52he said,
04:53she's beautiful.
04:54A lot of other things
04:55out there.
04:56Yeah.
04:57But Deshaun got caught.
04:57He fell off a cliff.
04:58The kicker got caught.
04:59He fell off a cliff.
05:00No, no.
05:01He was having a bad year.
05:02He knew.
05:03I think
05:04there's the best kicker going.
05:06I think Justin Tucker
05:07people reach for that guy
05:08in fantasy.
05:09I think he knew
05:10it was out there
05:10and it was on its way.
05:12And I think it started
05:13messing with,
05:13I do.
05:14I think it started
05:14to affect them.
05:15You're going to game
05:16and wondering what days
05:17that is that writer
05:19going to come up to me
05:20and say,
05:20hey,
05:21you've been accused
05:22by 12 women of.
05:24Yeah.
05:25So we said Watson
05:26was almost a dolphin.
05:28Yeah,
05:28we tried to make a run
05:29at him.
05:29We did.
05:30Willis will be version.
05:31We did our homework
05:32on him.
05:32You're exactly right there.
05:33Whoever sent that,
05:34that's a good one.
05:35Willis will be version
05:36three of Bridgewater
05:37and Snoop Huntley.
05:399-5-4 asks,
05:40is Atlanta's O-line short?
05:43I hope so.
05:45I don't see
05:46where those guys are.
05:46Pretty good.
05:47Pretty good offensive line
05:48most of the time,
05:49although we chewed him up.
05:50Weird game.
05:52That was a weird game,
05:52yeah.
05:53That was the game
05:54that you felt a little
05:54hope again,
05:55right?
05:56Well,
05:56they did.
05:58They went in there
05:59and kicked their ass.
06:00I mean,
06:00that was...
06:01Massage King
06:02can be comeback
06:02player of the year.
06:04I'd be shocked.
06:09Hey,
06:09man,
06:09there's some stories
06:11we're going to find out
06:11about Deshaun Watson.
06:13Tua is probably
06:15going to start the season.
06:15I don't think
06:16the other guy
06:16is going to be ready.
06:19That Cleveland thing
06:20though makes the Dolphins
06:21look like very functional.
06:24What they did
06:24with all those quarterbacks.
06:26Yeah,
06:27it was bad,
06:27but...
06:28So bizarre.
06:29We've had our own share
06:30of stuff that's...
06:33I know.
06:33Give him...
06:34We were the,
06:35give him a new contract.
06:36Give him an extension.
06:38We're that team.
06:39Okay,
06:40he's pouting.
06:41All right,
06:41well,
06:41we'll give him something.
06:42That stopped though.
06:43We got a new sheriff in town.
06:44That will never happen again.
06:47That will never happen again.
06:49And boy,
06:50I'll tell you what,
06:51I always say this
06:52and I'm always thinking about it
06:53is our center,
06:55our linebacker
06:56and our running back
06:56all are sitting here
06:57wanting new contracts
06:59off their performance
07:00a year ago
07:01in the last year
07:02of their contract.
07:04And I'd love to know
07:05because they've been,
07:06they've been great soldiers
07:07so far.
07:08They,
07:08how they're,
07:09how they're handling everything.
07:11I,
07:13but they're handling
07:13a lot better
07:14than the other guys
07:15that were,
07:16you know,
07:16were not to camp
07:17and you don't want
07:17to go into camp
07:18with guys
07:19doing certain drills.
07:21That's,
07:21that's a disaster
07:22because then your coach
07:24every day goes,
07:24oh,
07:25we noticed three of your players
07:26are standing on the sideline.
07:27They haven't had
07:28new contracts yet.
07:29Yes.
07:30Here we go,
07:31man.
07:31Distractions.
07:32You don't want those.
07:32Don't want those,
07:33man.
07:34So,
07:35uh,
07:35somebody said,
07:36uh,
07:36Watson for,
07:37Deshaun Watson
07:38for Walter Payton,
07:39man of the year.
07:40Probably not going to win
07:41that anytime soon.
07:42No,
07:43that's kind of funny.
07:44Uh,
07:45this guy says seven to us
07:46as if Deshaun takes Cleveland
07:47to the Superbowl against craft,
07:48it would be the happy ending.
07:50The NFL wants
07:51very clever stuff this morning.
07:53Boy,
07:53people are the creative juices
07:55are flowing.
07:55that's,
07:56that's outstanding.
07:57Yeah.
07:57Some of this stuff,
07:58by the way,
07:59how about the old Vrabel thing?
08:01NBA couldn't even,
08:02they couldn't even let it go
08:03on that show yet.
08:04That popular show
08:05could not let it go.
08:07They had their fishing.
08:08Now the teams are getting
08:08knocked out.
08:09It's time to go fishing.
08:10They get the boat
08:11and they put the celebrities
08:12of that city
08:14and they put Vrabel
08:15and Rossini
08:15at the end of that pic.
08:16No,
08:16in the front of that picture.
08:18they're on the front
08:19of the boat
08:19doing the Titanic thing,
08:20like the DiCaprio
08:21and the girl's name is.
08:25I guess story feels like
08:26it's kind of run its course
08:27though.
08:27Doesn't it?
08:28Like what,
08:29I don't know what else
08:29could possibly come out.
08:31She talks.
08:33She will eventually.
08:34I just don't know
08:35like what else.
08:36I don't think so.
08:38You don't think
08:38some podcast is going
08:39to woo her in?
08:41That's what we are.
08:43By the way,
08:44she got screwed.
08:46When you look at all this,
08:47I mean,
08:47this guy's going to keep
08:48coaching the team.
08:50Yes.
08:51He's fine.
08:51117 games.
08:52Doesn't seem like
08:52his wife's going anywhere.
08:54Not going anywhere.
08:56So she's the one
08:57who lost her job.
08:58She kind of got screwed
08:59in all this.
09:00Well,
09:01it's just going to be
09:01a stay home.
09:02She's got two little kids.
09:04But I'm just saying
09:05she seems to be the one
09:06that had to pay the price.
09:07Like what,
09:08what does negatively
09:08happen to Rabel?
09:09I just want to say
09:11the ones I feel sorry for.
09:12I don't feel sorry
09:12for either one of them.
09:13No,
09:14they're both idiots.
09:15I don't feel sorry
09:15for either one.
09:16I feel sorry.
09:17The spouses don't deserve this.
09:19Yes,
09:19I agree.
09:21She's had two of his kids.
09:22He's got,
09:23by the way,
09:24at least,
09:25Rabel's kids
09:25are a little bit older.
09:27Yeah.
09:27Although they're at that age
09:28where they look like
09:29high school kids.
09:30But how about her?
09:31She's,
09:31their kids aren't even
09:32in kindergarten yet.
09:34They haven't even started.
09:35Assuming the kid is,
09:38belongs to who she says.
09:40Oh my God.
09:41Can you imagine
09:42he makes her get a test?
09:43Oh God.
09:44Did you see the picture
09:45of the kid?
09:47No.
09:48No,
09:48I haven't.
09:49What are they showing
09:49the kids now?
09:50They did.
09:51Why are we doing that?
09:53Because she did it.
09:54And she posted the picture.
09:56She doesn't.
09:57Did it underneath go,
09:58whose kid is this?
09:59You guess.
10:00Only I know for sure.
10:01It would make for
10:02an excellent episode
10:03of daytime television.
10:05Is Maury still on the air?
10:06that's right.
10:07Who's the father?
10:08Who's the father?
10:09And I used to watch,
10:11I love that show.
10:11Do you realize
10:12how many people
10:12would tune into that episode
10:13if they got those two
10:15and the baby on there?
10:19That would be the most
10:20watched episode
10:20in the history of that show.
10:21Assuming it's still
10:23on the air.
10:23You watch.
10:24You're more of a daytime
10:26TV guy than me.
10:27I used to watch
10:28that show a little bit.
10:29Is he still on?
10:30No,
10:30but I did love that show
10:32because that was
10:32their big thing.
10:33And then the brawl,
10:34once he found out,
10:36the other guy would come in
10:37and he'd go,
10:37that's right,
10:38it's my kid, bitch.
10:39And they get all ugly
10:40and they start fighting
10:41and the security guys
10:42come out
10:43and they got to break them up.
10:44I never knew
10:44if those shows were real,
10:46but then I watched
10:46that Jerry Springer documentary
10:48and they kind of,
10:49like the people seemed
10:50like they were really
10:51damaged from being on the show.
10:53Woody, it doesn't matter.
10:53It's just such good stuff.
10:55Like somebody else's train wreck
10:57and like,
10:58and the girl starts crying
10:59thinking,
11:00oh my God,
11:00it's not as,
11:01oh my God,
11:02I thought it was your kid.
11:04You had no idea
11:05why I was sleeping
11:05with both of them,
11:06but I didn't know
11:07at that time which one
11:08I was hoping
11:09it was going to be
11:09this man I love you,
11:11but ain't my kid, bitch.
11:15You're going to go
11:16to break on that?
11:17And no, no,
11:17the guy comes out
11:18from behind,
11:19the guy that is the,
11:20now you're going to meet
11:21the father from the test.
11:22The guy comes out
11:23and they start fighting.
11:24Guy gets up and,
11:25you know,
11:26and they're throwing
11:27punches at each other.
11:29The crowd's booing the guy
11:30as he walks out
11:30and he's egging him on.
11:31Yeah.
11:32And they're calling
11:33her a sneaky hoe
11:34and they call names
11:35for a seat with two guys
11:37and the guys are fighting
11:38and I loved you, man.
11:39How would you do this to me, man?
11:41I loved you.
11:42I loved you.
11:43I'd do anything for you.
11:44And you still sleeping
11:46with this.
11:47Damn.
11:49I mean,
11:50got the acting in it,
11:51Woody.
11:51Not bad, huh?
11:52Not a bad way to go.
11:54Not bad at all.
11:55Hey,
11:55I got to tell you
11:56about Gary and Harvey.
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