Guessing the Miami Dolphins 2025 season MVP - Tua Tagovailoa or Tyreek Hill? - video Dailymotion

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If the Dolphins are going to have a ‘good’ season, who will end up being their MVP? A strong case is built for Tyreek Hill but Crowder is adamant that Tua Tagovailoa will have to produce.

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00:00I was looking, Pro Football Network, they did every NFL team's 2025 MVP candidate.

00:12Now, you would imagine, well, I'll ask you, who do you think would be the Miami Dolphins,

00:18according to Pro Football Network, who do you think the Miami Dolphins MVP candidate

00:23would be going into next season?

00:26Tua, got to be Tua.

00:28Solana?

00:30Tua or Minka Fitzpatrick?

00:33So it's...

00:34Safety?

00:35It's Tyreek Hill.

00:37It's a ridiculous...

00:38It was a ridiculous answer.

00:39Solana.

00:41Why?

00:41The safety.

00:42I will double your salary if Minka Fitzpatrick is the Dolphins MVP candidate going into next season.

00:52Mark the tape, Jimmy.

00:54Jimmy, lose that tape.

00:57A safety?

00:58Yeah, I mean, we don't have to get into it.

01:02Like, obviously, I think it was Tua, but I do think if Minka Fitzpatrick is the best player

01:06on the Dolphins' defense, it would be huge, because the Dolphins literally have nobody else

01:11of note in the secondary.

01:14Is he the best player already on the defense?

01:15That's a good question.

01:16Definitely on the defense, but in the secondary, I mean, you can't name me anybody else other

01:22than Cater Kohu in the Dolphins' secondary right now.

01:25So, like, Minka Fitzpatrick has to carry that entire secondary, all the DBs.

01:31I truly believe it.

01:32So, I think he needs to be the Dolphins' MVP this year if they're going to be good, or one

01:37of their MVPs this year.

01:39It would be if Chubb or Jalen come back from injury strong.

01:45That's what it would be.

01:46It would be one of those pass rushers.

01:47I'm with you, Solana.

01:48As we sit here today, they play a game tomorrow.

01:50Minka Fitzpatrick is the best one touching the field.

01:52But if one of them pass rushers come back, and for their defense to be good, we need to

01:59get a couple of those pass rushers back.

02:02Chop Robinson got to do his thing.

02:04Found it interesting that Tyreek Hill is Pro Football Network's choice for the pot, because

02:08most of them are quarterbacks, obviously.

02:10I think Saquon is, you know, a non-quarterback who's up as a team MVP possibility.

02:18I just found it interesting, because remember yesterday, we were looking at the Hard Rock props,

02:21and they don't even have Tyreek Hill catching for 1,000 yards.

02:25Like, they're expecting a down season.

02:28I'll read you what it says on Pro Football Network.

02:30Tua Tunga-Vailoa might be the more realistic MVP candidate for the Dolphins, simply because

02:35he plays quarterback.

02:36But Tyreek Hill is the one most likely to do something we've never seen, thanks to his speed

02:43and explosiveness.

02:44Hill is one of the most dangerous players in the league.

02:47His 2024 season wasn't his best, mostly because of quarterback issues, but in 2023, he led

02:55the NFL in receiving yards and touchdowns.

02:58The Dolphins went 8-9 last season.

03:01If they stay healthy, Mike McDaniel's offense could return to elite form.

03:06In 2023, they led the NFL in yards and were second in scoring.

03:11If that version of Miami returns, Hill will be a huge reason why.

03:17And I thought it was interesting, because when I read it, you know, I have relied on ignoring

03:22last season and counting the 2023 season in every argument I give you for Tua and Mike McDaniel.

03:31But for whatever reason, I have not extended that same thing to Tyreek Hill.

03:36But this one made me kind of sit up and go, you know what, maybe I should be extending

03:42that kind of courtesy to Tyreek Hill as well, and just write off last season for all the

03:48players involved.

03:49And if you go back to 23, Tyreek Hill, I mean, last year we were talking about a 2,000 yard

03:55season, and it was based on what he had done in 2023.

03:59So, maybe they're not that far off on that.

04:03Tyreek Hill didn't have a 100-yard game with Tua healthy, because Tua played in the Green

04:11Bay game.

04:13What's that?

04:141, 2, 3, 4, 5.

04:15The last 11 games of the season, Tyreek didn't break 100 yards until the last game, Jacksonville,

04:23which was worthless.

04:24Tua can go for 300-hawk, and Tyreek can still have 4 for 16.

04:34But all the, I mean, let's be honest, last year, all those catches were going to Odell

04:40Beckham.

04:40And now that he's not on the team anymore, that should free up some passes for Tyreek Hill.

04:46Worst acquisition in the history of the franchise.

04:49I don't know, I'm just saying, if I write off 24, and just say, don't count that against

04:57Tua, don't count it against Mike McDaniel, I should probably do that for Tyreek Hill.

05:01And that being said, just talking about what we were saying yesterday about the overs, the

05:05player props, I mean, you should probably bet Tyreek over on receiving yards.

05:10Again, if you follow my rationale that 2023 is the more representative version of the Dolphins

05:19team than 2024, you should probably play the overs, because his overs are very depressed

05:25right now because of last season.

05:27And Tua can still ball.

05:29Tua can go for 350, and Tyreek gets double-teamed every play, and he throws it to Jalen Waddle,

05:34Darren Waller balls.

05:35Like, you can isolate Tyreek Hill, but you can't stop the quarterback that's going to

05:42throw a ball 30 times a game.

05:43I gotcha.

05:44But great receivers, we've talked about it, great receivers have a way of getting the

05:49ball, and great coaches have a way of getting the ball in, and great quarterbacks too, have

05:56a way of getting the ball in great receivers' hands, even when the defense is keying on that

06:01player.

06:01Are all three of our sectors of what you just said great?

06:06Because I think Tyreek's great.

06:11I know Tua's very good.

06:13I don't know if McDaniel is great.

06:16I don't know.

06:17But that was the most frustrating part about last season, when Tua was healthy.

06:22Oh, yeah, they're playing four high.

06:26And it's like, who cares?

06:27Like, what, teams haven't doubled Tyreek Hill in the past?

06:30I get it.

06:31He was a little banged up, and then the way he ended the season quitting, like, we're

06:35all frustrated with Tyreek Hill.

06:36But remember, and I hate to read this again, but I read the stat to you guys yesterday from

06:40Chris Perkins.

06:41I still have it written down.

06:42Over the past two years, the Dolphins are 11-0 and average 35 points per game when Tyreek

06:47Hill has 100 yards or more receiving.

06:50When he has 99 yards of receiving or less, the Dolphins are 7-16 and average 18 points per

06:56game.

06:56And maybe we shouldn't be surprised with what Pro Football Talk is saying, Hawk.

07:00Tyreek Hill is, without a doubt, the best player on the Miami Dolphins.

07:02Like, without a doubt, if you just ranked players on the team.

07:06And you need your best player to be your best player.

07:10And he wasn't a season ago.

07:11So they're probably right.

07:13Tua's great, but Tyreek Hill makes him even better.

07:16Tyreek Hill has been an elite NFL player before.

07:20Tua hasn't been elite.

07:21He's been very good.

07:22I'm a big fan of his, but Tyreek Hill has been elite.

07:25By the way, someone texted in.

07:26They're 100% correct.

07:28That song, Jimmy, is from My Cousin Vinny.

07:31That's where I knew that song from.

07:33That 100% is in My Cousin Vinny and much more recognizable from that.

07:38It was in Big 2.

07:40I'm not disputing that.

07:41I'm just saying, I knew it from another movie.

07:44It was My Cousin Vinny.

07:46This is the tough thing about, and this is right back on Mike McDaniel, who is the, what'd you say, Hawk?

07:53The second leading coach to lose his job, you know, betting wise.

07:58Yeah, right behind Brian Dable.

08:00I'm just going off targets.

08:02I'm not talking about yards or receptions, just targets.

08:05Jamar Chase, one.

08:06Neighbors, two.

08:07Drake London, Atlanta, three.

08:08Justin Jefferson, four.

08:10Garrett Wilson, tied with 154 at five.

08:16CeeDee Lamb, Jerry, Judy, and Cleveland.

08:19Just targets.

08:19Just getting them an opportunity to make a play.

08:22Tyreek Hill's 19.

08:24But it was, again, a down season for everyone involved.

08:30Give me that same stat.

08:32Give me the target stat for 2023.

08:34You know, all I'm saying is this, and I understand this is convenient on my part.

08:39I am saying, forget the most recent season.

08:43Look at the stats from 2023 and use those as your expectations for the coming season.

08:50And it, it, and you're, I'll prove your point right now.

08:54Steedy Lamb, one.

08:55Devon Adams, two.

08:57Tyreek Hill, three with 171.

08:59Garrett Wilson, Ahmad St.

09:01A.J. Brown, Stephon Diggs, Fuka Nakua, A.J. Brown, all those top receivers.

09:06That's what it should be.

09:08And Tyreek was three.

09:09And Tyreek was three, two years ago.

09:11That's all I'm saying.

09:12Again, very convenient for my argument.

09:14I get it.

09:15But I, I have not extended that same kind of sensibility to Tyreek for the upcoming season

09:23that I have for Tua and that I have for Mike McDaniel.

09:26And reading what Pro Football Network had written there about MVP candidates got me thinking like,

09:33huh, if I am going to say, hey, go back to 2023, well then Tyreek Hill probably is your

09:39MVP candidate and you probably should expect a damn great season from Tyreek Hill.

09:46But if Tyreek goes for 1,700 and Tua throws for 4,500, Tua is still going to be the MVP.

09:54Probably.

09:57Probably.

09:58I don't know.

09:58I don't, I don't know.

09:59He wasn't, he wasn't two years ago.

10:03I think, though, I think just based on the conversation we're having and the, and the stats you read from 23 versus 24,

10:09I want to bet Tua overs and Tyreek Hill overs.

10:14There was like, is Liam Eikenberg still playing?

10:18I'm going to bet his overs as well.

10:21Bet his, bet his, bet over sacks.

10:24Sacks giving up.

10:26There was like a three week stretch in 23 early in the season after the 70 point game.

10:31Tua was in the MVP conversation.

10:33But then by the, by the end of that season, even before the Tennessee loss,

10:37Tyreek chasing 2,000 yards was like the headline.

10:42And Tua fell out of the MVP race.

10:44Tyreek didn't.

10:44I remember some of us taking flyers on Tyreek Hill to win MVP because we thought, hey, he's going to get to 2,000.

10:51And if he does, no matter where the Dolphins are in the playoff race, he's going to win MVP.

10:55It's never been done before by somebody of his stature.

10:58He's the MVP, bro.

11:02Hmm.

11:05As a betting man, I bet Tua.

11:07But I, I can see the other side if everything gets back on track from 24 months ago.

11:14That's all I'm saying is I've been saying everything's going to get back on track from 2023,

11:18but I've been discounting Tyreek Hill as part of that for some reason.

11:23And I probably shouldn't be doing that because he was the key cog in the 2023 stats.

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