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00:00I know what I'm saying will sound hurtful, especially to those who have been victims in the past.
00:09From the childhood, what in my experience I have came through, at the age of like when I was studying
00:15third standard,
00:17I have experienced the worst three guys.
00:22They are from the same age.
00:24At that time, I was not aware what is the thing was happening.
00:28When I look at some other girl child, I get fear.
00:32There is a loss that happened in the past and there is a loss that is happening by continuously recalling
00:40the past.
00:41Were real, they were real, yes.
00:43And they left a deep imprint, a deep scar rather.
00:46But what to do with it?
00:49Lowly events are definitely going to happen.
00:52If not today, then tomorrow.
00:53If not here, then there.
00:54Nobody can have a blemishless life.
00:57If nobody could say, you know, nothing untoward ever happened with me.
01:01Not possible.
01:02What if?
01:03And this might hurt a little, but...
01:06It's difficult, I know.
01:07You will say, sir, it didn't happen to you.
01:10That's why you can easily suggest this way.
01:12And I appreciate what you will say, probably.
01:14But irrespective of that, this is...
01:22Namaste, I have heard your speeches a lot.
01:26You know, for one year I was listening in YouTube, all the long, long videos.
01:32And then this year beginning, I joined your Gita community.
01:36And I used to hear a lot about, you know, as a woman, we need to go out.
01:41We need to explore.
01:43We need to travel alone.
01:46But Acharya Ji, from the childhood, what in my experience I have came through, at the
01:54age of, like when I was studying third standard, I have experienced the worst thing from not
02:05a teacher, from not someone outside, not from relative, but there's some same classmate, the
02:11same guy, three guys, actually, you know, they are from the same age.
02:17At that time, I was not aware what is the thing was happening, what these guys are doing and
02:24all that.
02:25But, you know, the fear that comes within us, wherever we travel, whomever we see, whomever
02:33we listen, we always have that thing in us.
02:37So, that carries out.
02:39And that not only carries out in looking at myself or on my own decisions.
02:43When I look at some other girl child or some other girl child of any other, if I look at
02:48her, I get fear if she is safe, if she is in a safe environment.
02:54Because this thing which I suffered in my school age, like it's a kid, I was a kid then, it
03:01was not at the age of social media.
03:03It was not where the, you know, the wrong information, which we say now, it has been
03:08not easily accessible to the child, maybe.
03:11And even whenever I speak to the children before, like when I was studying 10th standard or anything
03:17like that, the things they used to talk to me, is actually, I get afraid of what they
03:22are getting exposed to.
03:24That too, they, even that time, I remember very well that they are not using cell phones.
03:28So, that is something, I cannot believe any girl child to be safe or, you know, going forward
03:37to be safe.
03:42On one hand, what you are saying, undeniable and someone who has gone through it, has actually
03:52gone through it.
03:54And I wish we had social values and law and order of the kind that doesn't allow any such
04:07thing to happen.
04:09But that's utopian.
04:14Our species, we spoke of it today, is a beast at heart, right?
04:24So, irrespective of how morally sound social values are, or how robust the law and the enforcement
04:42mechanisms are, there would still be incidences of the kind you are mentioning.
04:53Not only that, even after once that incidence has happened, a small but definite probability
05:04would still remain that it might recur.
05:09So, we know of these things as facts, right?
05:15Having known, the question is, what do we do with this information, this experience?
05:25And that's a choice.
05:29Because it did happen, no denying that, and there is a probability it might again happen,
05:39and also it is certain that it is still happening with someone else, right?
05:47We can't deny that, can't discount that, yes, for sure, but what to do with it?
05:53What to do with it?
05:56There is a loss that happened in the past, and there is a loss that is happening by continuously
06:08recalling the past, right?
06:13One has to weigh one against the other.
06:17One has to see which one is the bigger loss.
06:28The probability that something violent, unsavory might happen in the future, or the loss that
06:43comes by compromising on the potential that the present has.
06:54It's an individual choice.
07:00Are you kidding it?
07:03Memory is not automatic.
07:07Memory is a decision.
07:11You do not remember every experience you have had, do you?
07:18You remember only that which you choose to attach importance to.
07:28Think of all that has happened in your life.
07:30Do you remember even 1% of it?
07:32Think of what has happened since the morning today itself.
07:39Do you remember even 10% of it?
07:42Memory is not automatic.
07:46So decide, what is healthy enough to be remembered?
07:53What is instructive enough to be remembered?
07:56What is nourishing enough to be remembered?
08:00Decide.
08:03We are not denying that the other events were real.
08:09They were real, yes.
08:11And they left a deep imprint, a deep scar rather.
08:15Yes.
08:17But is there any welfare, any potential benefit to be had by retaining those things in memory?
08:31And if it is there in memory, it will be recalled again and again.
08:35That's the very point of having something in memory, right?
08:39To recall it.
08:39To recall it.
08:41Now let's say we are here speaking since the last two and a half hours.
08:47And I really hope something of value has been discussed.
08:52And these two and a half hours, if you choose to recall, and I am consciously using the word choice.
08:59If you choose to recall that old incidents 5 times or 10 or 20 times, what have you missed out
09:12on?
09:13Please tell me.
09:15Everything that the present had to offer.
09:19And this that is happening here is life.
09:22The past is not life.
09:23The future is not life.
09:27So yes, there was a loss in the past.
09:30But aren't we extending and inflating that loss into the present?
09:42Understand the nature of life itself.
09:48This species is not evolved enough.
09:52And most of the evolution that we talk of has happened only in the physical way.
10:03So men will be animals.
10:08And by men, I mean both men and women.
10:12And so ugly things will happen as they have happened throughout history.
10:22Should that obstruct our path towards Highness?
10:32Lowly events are definitely going to happen.
10:37If not today, then tomorrow. If not here, then there.
10:42Nobody can have a blemishless life.
10:48Nobody could say, you know, nothing untoward ever happened with me.
10:52Not possible.
10:54So lowly things will happen.
10:57What if that lowly incidents and its memory is allowed to obstruct your path towards the Highness of your potential?
11:10What if?
11:11What if?
11:13What if?
11:13And this might hurt a little but please take it.
11:15What if the ego is deliberately choosing to remember the bitterness of the past?
11:24For some reason.
11:27Because the ego is really deceptive.
11:36We think of ourselves as pleasure-seeking people, right?
11:42But look at how people love to pamper their wounds.
11:51Look at how people choose to retain their wounds.
11:56So surely then it is possible.
12:00Just consider this.
12:02It is possible that the ego is deriving a certain hidden pleasure from the wound itself.
12:14Either a pleasure or some other kind of benefit.
12:20Some psychological gratification.
12:23I know what I am saying will sound hurtful.
12:28Especially to those who have been victims in the past.
12:35But sometimes it happens.
12:37When you clean the wound it hurts.
12:39Let's take the hurt for a while.
12:47The wound itself is bad enough.
12:54What's the sense in retaining it?
12:58Isn't that even worse?
13:02Please tell me.
13:05You stumble.
13:06You fall.
13:08You gather dirt on your clothes.
13:11You preserve the dirt.
13:14Do you?
13:19Or do you just want to shrug it all off and walk on?
13:26Life is there to walk on and shine on.
13:32Not to preserve the dirt and say, you know, this is something.
13:38This is a very sacred relic of my history.
13:44It must be preserved like a mummy.
13:49Why must we make a museum of our being?
14:02Yes, there was a perpetrator of the crime.
14:06He harmed us.
14:09And we are saying that was bad enough.
14:13And we want to have systems where such crimes don't happen.
14:17Yes.
14:17But they will happen.
14:21And then we don't want to make it even worse.
14:31By preserving the rubbish.
14:36And that's the strongest and the healthiest response you can have.
14:49I no more care because I forget.
14:59What did you do with that unsavoury experience?
15:03I learnt and I dropped it.
15:13Otherwise, the exploiter has doubly succeeded.
15:22Once on that day and again today.
15:34That can be your, if you want to put it that way, your revenge.
15:40You did it but I chose not to carry it.
15:48Not that we want such things to happen, no.
15:52And if such things happen, the doer must be taken to task.
15:58The entire society must be punished for raising such individuals.
16:09But irrespective of our noble intentions, our species being the beasts that we are.
16:19I repeat, we will have to put up with these things.
16:23As women and as men, as human beings.
16:30Let's choose to learn and move on.
16:37It's difficult, I know.
16:39You will say, Sir, it didn't happen to you.
16:42That's why you can easily suggest this way.
16:44And I appreciate what you will say, probably.
16:49But irrespective of that, this is the only way.
16:56Think of the terrible things a lot of people go through.
17:00What else can you advise them?
17:03Move on.
17:05Don't remain stuck.
17:08Move on.
17:08Move on.
17:11Move on.
17:12Move on.
17:14Move on.
17:15Namaste Acharya Ji.
17:20I want to share something and want to know your view on that.
17:27Recently, I visited an NGO in South India, where we visited a community.
17:34They are following center of non-violence and minimalism and sustainability.
17:43In that community, children which are raised are not socially conditioned.
17:49And they are free to grow with freedom, courage, without being socially conditioned.
18:02That's not possible.
18:06Every single site is out there to condition you.
18:10You don't need an active human agency for that.
18:15There is a child and the child is present here and nobody is talking to the child.
18:19The child is sitting there silently in the corner.
18:21He is still getting conditioned.
18:24None of us are trying to or planning to condition the child, but the child is still getting conditioned.
18:29That's the nature of this biological apparatus.
18:33The senses are there, the mind is there and it will get conditioned.
18:38So, these are all just buzzwords.
18:40Sustainability, freedom, I would not condition the child.
18:46You don't condition the child, the child would get automatically conditioned.
18:53Can you rid the child of its body in the first place?
18:57No, the body is the first conditioning.
18:59The body is the first conditioning.
19:04What you are mentioning with all due respect to that NGO is things of doing.
19:11I will do this and call it sustainability.
19:14Do this and call it minimalism.
19:16Do this and call it anti-natalism.
19:18Do this and call it veganism.
19:20Do this and call it something, something, something.
19:24Now, all these deeds are conveniently ignoring the doer.
19:33You can be a very violent minimalist.
19:38It's very possible.
19:43You can be an absolutely cruel vegan.
19:47It's possible.
19:49Not just possible.
19:51Probable.
19:56All these things very easily translate into performances.
20:03I perform veganism.
20:05I remaining I, I perform veganism.
20:14These are not acts.
20:16These are expressions.
20:22These are manifestations.
20:25Of something happening deep within.
20:30And then sometimes it's possible.
20:33Even without your knowledge, you might find you have turned non-violent.
20:39Without resolution, without determination, without even knowing.
20:43You might find you are just non-violent.
20:50Nobody taught you something called minimalism.
20:53Yet you are minimalist.
20:56And minimalist not in the conventional sense.
21:05Are you getting this?
21:08The ego loves to preserve itself.
21:14And a great way of self-preservation is performance of austerities.
21:22I don't do this.
21:23I don't touch that.
21:26Haven't we seen in the course of history how egoistic the most austere people are?
21:33I don't eat that.
21:36Even human beings are filthy.
21:37I don't touch human beings.
21:42Such austerity.
21:43And that's the deepest kind of historical violence we have had in India.
21:47Right?
21:47Untouchability.
21:55I won't eat if it's not cooked by a particular caste.
22:02And even that person must be a male and this and should have taken a bath five times a day.
22:11And this fellow would actually abstain from eating if the right conditions are not met.
22:17Do you see the violence contained in refusing to eat?
22:24There is a violence that's visible in the blood on your plate.
22:30And there is a violence implicit in your refusal to eat if the right caste or the right hands aren't
22:41cooking it for you.
22:47Yes, sir.
22:52My name is Anupam.
22:57The path towards truly educating yourself, knowing yourself, growing that centre, seems to be rigged because the other choices are
23:14more rewarding in a way.
23:17So, that path comes at a lot of self-sacrifice, things that people have to do at a disadvantage, be
23:26at a disadvantage.
23:28So, in a way, it feels like that part is rigged.
23:33Going that way is a loss and going that other way seems far more rewarding in nature.
23:44And just in an intro, for instance, we are child-free by choice and it had a lot to do
23:51with what you're talking about, about what us, you know, what we as a race do to devolue them.
23:58So, it comes at a lot of self-sacrifice and a lot of it is performed in that people's sense.
24:04The question is, do we need a parallel system which promotes this behaviour, allows people to walk this path?
24:12Yeah, but any system, I see where you're coming from, but any system requires a centre to begin from.
24:21The greatest of trees, first of all, require a seed.
24:24And the individual consciousness is the seed.
24:29So, the moment you say you are seeing it, you become the seed and the centre.
24:36And it's bound to grow outwards from you.
24:42You are the centre, you are the beginning.
24:44But if the question is, can we have a ready-made centre out there somewhere?
24:49That's wishful thinking. Nobody is going to construct it for you.
24:55You are the doer and you are already doing it if you are living rightly.
25:03Additionally, please understand, the element of sacrifice is experienced, rather imagined,
25:12more when you are still away from it and just visualising it.
25:20And then you say, oh my God, we are child-free and we are sacrificing so much.
25:26Does it still feel like a sacrifice now that you are really child-free?
25:30That's what, that's what.
25:31But those who are planning to have kids or those who are planning to push their daughters and sons
25:37and daughter-in-laws into having one more kid,
25:42to them it would sound like a lot of sacrifice.
25:44Oh my God!
25:46Look at the poor lady.
25:48She sacrificed the diapers.
25:59Now that you are mentioning it, I am asking myself,
26:02has it occurred to me even once in the last 200 years that I don't have a kid?
26:09How is it a sacrifice?
26:12How is it a sacrifice?
26:17How is it a sacrifice?
26:17How is it a sacrifice?
26:17Not a sacrifice.
26:21I am much better off.
26:25What I am doing wouldn't have been possible.
26:37With whales and nappies and all those things.
26:39No, not possible.
26:43Am I missing something?
26:46Just like the flesh eaters often ask the vegetarians,
26:49don't you, don't you miss the juice of the chicken?
26:52Don't you think you are missing something big in life?
26:55No sir, not at all.
26:57There is no sacrifice involved really.
27:00I am not missing anything.
27:01I am not sacrificing anything.
27:02I am much better off.
27:04In fact, I look at you with pity.
27:10It is not the chicken you are chewing.
27:12It is your own life.
27:21But I understand what you are saying.
27:23Right?
27:23It has to begin from you.
27:25It has to begin from you.
27:26And the deeper you are into it,
27:30the taller is the tree.
27:37Your assumption is, first of all,
27:39people have some pleasure in their life.
27:42You are assuming that.
27:44Let's question that.
27:47You are assuming, you know,
27:48people have happiness, pleasure, this, that.
27:51And the right life asks them to sacrifice it.
27:56Sir, something can be sacrificed only, first of all.
27:59It is there.
28:00Who looks actually happy to you?
28:07Let's keep the performance of happiness aside.
28:10Happy birthday to you.
28:15Suppose we are honest enough to discount all that.
28:18I love you so much, darling.
28:21We know what all that is.
28:27Who in this world, in this life,
28:30actually has something vulnerable to sacrifice?
28:36And that which is really precious,
28:40can never be sacrificed.
28:45Right?
28:46But the sheer imagination,
28:49just the thought,
28:51is scary.
28:53And keeps a lot of people away.
28:55You know, if I live rightly,
29:00I'll have to make a lot of sacrifices.
29:03No, sir, no sacrifices.
29:04Lot of fun.
29:05Lot of fun.
29:08Joy of the kind, that's unspeakable.
29:14What do, what do you,
29:20plugged ones, coupled ones,
29:22know of the joy of single nights?
29:31Even the imagination makes you grin, right?
29:43People have stuff not because that makes them happy,
29:48but because they are conditioned to have it.
29:53So there is no sacrifice involved.
29:55Nobody has stuff out of his own volition,
29:59his own choice, his own discretion.
30:01No, no, no.
30:03Assume,
30:04you are born without history.
30:08Would you still
30:11cherish all these institutions and hold them sacred?
30:15Please tell me.
30:18Please tell me.
30:19If there were nobody to tell you,
30:21do this, study there,
30:24act this way,
30:26enter this institution,
30:27and now get pregnant.
30:29If there were nobody to tell you all this,
30:31would you still do all this?
30:34Nobody is doing it
30:37out of volition or understanding.
30:40There is no realization in it.
30:43There is just the desperate
30:47and terrified urge to confirm.
30:51I have to do it because everybody else is doing it.
30:56And if I don't do this,
30:58then I will be beaten up.
31:02That's why people do what they do.
31:06Which means all that they have
31:08is a vacuum.
31:12A very hollow place inside.
31:15What's there to sacrifice?
31:21What's there to sacrifice?
31:25Don't get afraid.
31:27No sacrifice is involved.
31:30But yes,
31:31if you continue sitting at your place
31:33and imagine how it feels like,
31:37up there,
31:39then
31:42you will name it as a sacrifice.
31:47All the fear is in the imagination.
31:53In living it, there is just joy.
31:57But most of us want to be assured beforehand.
32:01So we say before we live it,
32:03we want a guarantee.
32:06So we will first of all imagine.
32:09We will imagine how it would probably feel like
32:13if I reach there and do that.
32:17And standing where you are,
32:18if you imagine that,
32:21that would always appear scary
32:24because of a simple principle,
32:27the ego is self-preservatory.
32:30So standing here,
32:31the ego would want to preserve this position.
32:34And what you are asking the ego to evaluate,
32:38to judge, to consider,
32:39is that position.
32:42From this position,
32:43that position would always be unwelcome
32:46because the ego loves to self-preserve.
32:50From this position,
32:52that position would always look scary,
32:54unwelcome, terrifying, repulsive.
32:59Therefore, therefore,
33:01don't think of the future
33:03if you are doing the right thing.
33:07The right center is enough.
33:10Don't be bothered of the future.
33:13The future will take care of itself.
33:15You take care of what must be done right now.
33:20Don't demand an entire roadmap.
33:30Don't say,
33:31put it in writing.
33:34Assure me with a guarantee.
33:38The moment you ask this,
33:39you will find no guarantees are really available.
33:45And the ego would smile
33:46because that would mean the continuation of its current position.
33:54If you don't even know why you must have what you have,
33:58how can you be happy with what you have?
34:00Please tell me.
34:04If you don't know why you must have what you have,
34:08how can you be possibly happy with what you have?
34:19We are carrying our associations,
34:23the objects in our lives,
34:25our roles and responsibilities
34:29more or less like burden.
34:36The word responsibility therefore always sounds heavy,
34:40as burdens too.
34:47If there were no one to tell you,
34:49this is your responsibility.
34:53Would you still take this as your responsibility?
34:59No.
35:00And if no, then how can this be your responsibility?
35:08Therefore, where is the question of sacrifice?
35:14I am not reaching you.
35:15Am I?
35:35I am not leaning to your hand?
35:55Thick you up for the mission of God,
35:55To Grow Grunt,
35:55Another time next time.
35:56You are going to be willing,
35:57you are going to make sure
35:57the opportunity is going to take care of.
35:57Or what's the difference?
35:58Will not be in your dealing without that ?
36:02Are doors that i'm feeling.
36:03Could be used in theれない room
36:03You
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