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00:00If there is one verse in entire spiritual works, it is this one.
00:07That relates to the climate crisis very, very directly.
00:11It is this one.
00:12But I am just a little girl.
00:15Why are you talking of Krishna to me?
00:17Krishna was so great, so great, so great.
00:19He is unreachable.
00:20No, no, no, no, no.
00:22It's a dirty trick you are playing.
00:24That's your defense, not your devotion.
00:28Without the slaying of the inner demon, cleaning up the environment is just not going to be possible.
00:34As long as we remain burning with desire within, the planet has no future.
00:41In fact, no present as well.
00:43Remaining burning within, we feel the amazing forests can be saved.
00:50No, the fire there cannot be extinguished as long as mankind is burning within.
00:58No, you cannot say I will destroy the planet and remain healthy and prosperous within.
01:04You cannot say I am a spiritual person but I don't care for the climate catastrophe.
01:08You are a liar and a fraud.
01:10We need Yagya to save the planet only.
01:18What is Nagita saying?
01:22From Yagya comes rain, from rain comes grain, from grain all living beings.
01:32And that which is rain comes from Yagya, which has already been said.
01:39And Yagya is related to desireless action.
01:44Yagya is related to desireless action.
01:46When we look at the climate crisis, what do we say?
01:50We say, the climate crisis is out there, but its reasons are in here.
01:59That's how somebody coming from the Gita looks at any crisis in the world.
02:05The climate crisis is out there, but its roots are in here.
02:09So the outer and the inner are definitely one.
02:14Getting it?
02:15Getting it?
02:16And if there is one verse in entire wisdom literature,
02:23in the entire corpus of spiritual works,
02:28it is this one.
02:30That relates to the climate crisis very, very directly.
02:37It is this one.
02:43We will enter this and you will see the clear relationship between the internal centre and the outer manifestation.
02:52How the internal centre relates to the outer happening or phenomena.
03:00Parjanya.
03:02Parjanya could mean clouds.
03:06Parjanya could mean clouds.
03:07That's the common meaning.
03:08Parjanya.
03:09But Parjanya in the Vedic literature actually refers to the mighty force of Prakrati itself.
03:24Prakrati personified in Indra or Vishnu or other gods with other names.
03:31Parjanya.
03:32Parjanya.
03:34Parjanya.
03:36Parjanya.
03:36Parjanya.
03:37Parjanya.
03:39We very well know the outer chain.
03:48Prakrati offers rain and not just rain, everything that is available as resource to us living
04:00beings.
04:01All that is afforded to us by Prakrati.
04:04So Prakrati offers rain, that's what the verse says and the rains sustain life on the planet.
04:12So that's the outer chain, Prakrati, rain and life, Prakrati, rain, life, that's the outer
04:22chain.
04:23The beautiful, the special thing about this verse is that it creates an inner link to the
04:32outer chain.
04:34What is the verse saying?
04:35The verse is saying that Parjanya is related to Yajna, which means Prakrati is related to
04:44Nishkam Karma, which means the state of Prakrati in which it can keep offering life-giving food
04:54and rain and such things to beings on the planet is related to Yajna.
05:00What Prakrati does in its natural state, in its uncorrupted state, undisturbed state,
05:06we all know.
05:07We all know.
05:08What does it do?
05:08It offers sunlight, it offers moonlight, it offers the wind, it offers everything that you
05:14have.
05:14It all comes from Prakrati.
05:16So that is anyway established.
05:17That is a scientific fact.
05:19We know that.
05:20The verse is not here to teach us science.
05:23We know what Prakrati does.
05:26The verse here is to teach us that for Prakrati to retain its untouched, uncorrupted, undisturbed,
05:35unbroken cycle, there must be Yajna.
05:40If you have not understood this, you will totally miss the verse.
05:46Approach it from the other end.
05:48Look at climate crisis today.
05:50What has brought it about?
05:58Sakam karm, right?
05:59And Yajna is?
06:02So it is desire that has brought about the climate crisis.
06:06Sakam karm, desirous action.
06:09Now invert that.
06:11If desirous action has reduced Prakrati to its corrupted state, to its diseased state, to
06:20its hurt state, what keeps Prakrati in its healthy and original state, desireless action.
06:35Desirous action has corrupted Prakrati.
06:38Desirous action has corrupted Prakrati.
06:41Seen?
06:42Agreed?
06:43Desirous action has corrupted Prakrati.
06:46So what will restore Prakrati to its natural state?
06:52Desireless action, which is Nishkam karm.
06:54So for Prakrati to operate properly, there must be desireless action.
07:00Desireless action is?
07:01Nishkam karm.
07:01Nishkam karm is?
07:02Yajna.
07:03So for Prakrati to operate properly, let there be Yajna.
07:07This is what the verse means.
07:09The inner and the outer are related.
07:12Prakrati in the outer sense can operate properly only when the ego in the inner place is desireless,
07:22which means it has self-knowledge.
07:24It is only self-knowledge that can restore health to Prakrati.
07:29This is what the verse today means.
07:33It is only Nishkam karm that can bring health back to Prakrati, if that is still possible,
07:41if we have not, you know, crossed the line of no return, which we probably have already.
07:49The Gita didn't want that to happen.
07:51So we were forewarned many centuries in advance.
07:56We didn't heed.
08:01Do you understand this?
08:03This verse is not to teach you the mechanics of material precipitation.
08:12For that you can refer to a class 6 textbook.
08:15And we all learned that from the same textbook, didn't we?
08:21Sunlight heats up the surface of the water bodies and so there is evaporation.
08:27And what happens to the gas?
08:30It rises.
08:33And when it rises, it experiences cooling.
08:37And when it experiences cooling, the vapour condenses into clouds and the clouds float.
08:46And where the clouds find the right opportunity, the right scientific movement, they open up
08:55rain.
08:55That's how rainfall happens.
08:57We all know that.
08:58Right?
08:59The Gita is not to teach us that.
09:01The Gita is to teach us how outer Prakrati and inner ego are related to each other and
09:10therefore there can be no division.
09:12You cannot say I will destroy the planet and remain healthy and prosperous within.
09:19It is not possible.
09:20You cannot say I am a spiritual person but I don't care for the climate catastrophe.
09:24You are a liar and a fraud.
09:28If somebody comes to you saying that he is a religious person and you say what are you
09:32doing about the climate crisis?
09:34He says what is that I don't know about it.
09:38The fellow is someone the Gita has already rejected.
09:42Because the fellow is thriving on a division between the inner and the outer.
09:51He is saying that my inner self is illuminated.
09:55Now let the planet go to dogs.
09:58The Gita won't tolerate this.
10:00The Gita is saying let the outer and the inner be one.
10:04And the outer and the inner are actually one.
10:09If you are inwardly dark, that will show up in the darkness of your actions, your decisions,
10:17your relationships.
10:19The inner and the outer are anyway one.
10:23But we keep the paramarthic aside, not aside, we hoist the paramarthic just so high that
10:32it becomes truly unreachable, untouchable and then we are safe, you know.
10:38We turn the truth into such an absolute that it becomes unreachable and that keeps the ego
10:45safe.
10:47Oh, the truth is absolute, who can talk of the truth?
10:49So let me continue with my dark, murky, dirty business.
10:53Because you see, I am a little insect of the Vyabharik Tal.
10:58Who am I?
10:59I am just a little Junnu.
11:00Who am I?
11:01I am just a little Dhania.
11:02Who am I?
11:04To even approach the being of a Krishna, a Kabir, a Buddha.
11:10Who am I?
11:11Have you not heard of that?
11:12Have you not heard people saying that way?
11:15But I am just a little girl.
11:20Why are you talking of Krishna to me?
11:22Krishna was so great, so great, so great, he is unreachable.
11:27I am the petty Junnu.
11:30No, no, no, no, no, no.
11:31It's a dirty trick you are playing.
11:34You want to remain Junnu and that's why you have put Krishna on the unreachable sky.
11:45That's your defence, not your devotion.
11:57That which you are calling as your devotion or deference is just your defence.
12:04You have very deliberately made the truth so distant that the light reaches you no more.
12:22Are you kidding me?
12:26And this has been especially India's undoing.
12:29We had Vedanta and Vedanta is Advaith.
12:33And yes, there are these two levels, the levels of the practical factual reality we all operate in, we think
12:41of ourselves, we operate as material bodies, we utter I, which is fine.
12:45And we also know that this is not the truth.
12:50So yes, this that appears like a practical reality is not absolutely true, we know.
12:58But then we started calling of this too as the truth, whereas this should have been referred
13:03to only as the fact, the experienced fact.
13:06And that is fine, it is experienced fact.
13:09But we said no, it is another kind of truth, another variety of truth.
13:14And we said these two must remain separated.
13:17So this is here, that is there.
13:22Are you kidding me?
13:30This superstition plagues humanity to this day.
13:37Remaining burning within, we feel the amazing forests can be saved.
13:49No, the fire there cannot be extinguished as long as mankind is burning within, no.
14:03Burning within, we keep feeling that the smoke outside can be contained.
14:09And we are trying all kinds of fancy things.
14:15No, the smoke that you see in the air is actually smoke arising from the very center of mankind.
14:28It is not really smoke coming from construction or vehicle exhausts.
14:33That smoke is actually coming from the ego.
14:37We are all full of smoke within.
14:39And that smoke shows up in the air.
14:42But we think of the outer as one thing and the inner as a separate thing.
14:45No, they are related.
14:47They are not just related, they are one.
14:52We think the rivers are dirty because of some material reason.
14:57No, no, no, no, no.
14:59The filth in the flow of the river is the filth in the flow of the human mind.
15:07And as long as the filth in this inner flow is not cleaned up, the filth in the river will
15:16be impossible to clean up.
15:21But we keep harboring very romantic notions.
15:25We keep saying, you know, Britain didn't get spiritually elevated but they cleaned up the themes.
15:32So they didn't clean it up.
15:33They just outsourced all the rubbish.
15:37They just outsourced all the rubbish.
15:43Are you kidding it?
15:46Real cleansing of Prakrati can happen only when the ego stands really cleansed.
15:53Refer Durga Sapchati once again.
15:57When the inner demons were slayed,
16:00Prakrati was restored to her original clean innocent self.
16:09Without a slaying of the inner demon, cleaning up the environment is just not going to be possible.
16:17You may keep saying, I am running a great project to clean up this river or that river.
16:22Oh, you are fooling yourself.
16:25Where does the contamination, the pollutant come from?
16:29It comes from somebody's greed.
16:32Have you contained that greed?
16:34Why will that fellow not continue to pollute?
16:43Yes, he will pollute in some other way.
16:46Maybe he will now pollute some other river.
16:49Maybe he will relocate his factory.
16:52Maybe he will bribe the minister.
16:54And maybe the minister will fudge the pollution reading itself.
17:00Because the agencies that provide the pollution ratings to you,
17:05they can be all manipulated.
17:08They can be manipulated because they all have egos vulnerable to fear and greed.
17:16How will you contain outer deterioration as long as you are not honest about the inner one?
17:26But we are special beings.
17:28We live in notions, concepts, imaginations.
17:34Grandiose self-deceptions.
17:46You know, we can keep emitting carbon dioxide but we can have satellites
17:51all around the earth with large reflective panels.
17:56And they will not allow sunlight to enter the earth's atmosphere.
18:01And therefore, the heating effect of carbon dioxide can be nullified.
18:09What kind of evil line of thought is this?
18:16You begin this and can you stop?
18:19What you are saying is now you have an insurance against emissions.
18:22You can keep emitting and keep launching satellites and the satellites will reflect back sunlight.
18:28So, the environment will not heat up fine.
18:32That means you will emit more.
18:33And then you will have more satellites.
18:38How long will it take for this kind of method to get saturated?
18:44And when it gets saturated, what will you do?
18:47Because now, the atmosphere too is saturated with carbon dioxide.
18:54Now, what will you do?
18:57Once this method saturates and therefore fails and collapses, what will you do now?
19:05This is just like some of those quacks that treat the symptoms and in the process make the disease worse.
19:20The simple thing is to turn inward and ask yourself, do I even need to do all this?
19:27Do I even need to consume all that which emits?
19:32Do I even need to reproduce so much?
19:36Because the one thing, the one thing that stands as the fundamental cause of emission is the unit of emission
19:48itself and the unit of emission is the human being.
19:53Not the factory, the unit of emission is the human being.
19:57If population reduces, that is the biggest form of climate activism.
20:07But no, you will keep talking of newborns as little bundles of joy from God Almighty.
20:14And keep saying, oh, I care so much for Mother Earth.
20:17If you care so much for Mother Earth, why did you become a mother?
20:24Mother Earth wants no more mothers.
20:34Are you getting it?
20:45We need Yajjaya to save the planet.
20:49Only desireless action can save the planet.
20:52Yajjaya gets desireless action.
20:53As long as we remain burning with desire within, the planet has no future.
21:00In fact, no present as well.
21:08You get this?
21:09The inner and the outer are related.
21:13Don't go for interpretations that deal only with the outer, that present a purely material meaning.
21:21Also, don't subscribe to interpretations that think of everything as symbolic.
21:26They will say, no, no, no.
21:29Clouds here are symbolic.
21:30They mean inner clouds.
21:32Rain too is symbolic.
21:34It means inner rain.
21:35I will give you inner food on your plate and then see what your spirituality can offer you.
21:49On your plate, I will keep some symbolic food.
21:54I will keep an F and say this symbolizes food.
22:01And you too will then say F and say it symbolizes.
22:07Right?
22:08Not everything is symbolic, sir.
22:12Not everything is a metaphor.
22:17Vyavahar, the material fact has to be respected as an entity in itself.
22:27SPM readings have to be respected as facts in themselves.
22:33You cannot say I care only for the inner truth.
22:37What are all these numbers?
22:38Truth cannot be measured in numbers, my master told me.
22:42Therefore, this AQI 400, 500, this is nonsense.
22:45These are just numbers, you see.
22:47Age is just a number.
22:49So, you live up to the number 200 then.
22:52Age is just a number.
22:53SPM is just a number.
22:54Number of species going extinct per day is just a number.
23:03The BOD figure
23:08in the water bodies is just a number.
23:10I don't care for them because the truth is beyond all numbers.
23:14No, no, no.
23:15The marks I get in the Gita exam, they are just numbers.
23:19They cannot capture my inner truth.
23:21My inner truth is that I am perfectly aligned with Krishna.
23:23It's just that in exam, I get minus 250 percent, which is just a number.
23:29Numbers don't matter.
23:30Numbers do matter, sir.
23:35The inner truth shows up in the outer numbers.
23:42The beauty, the oneness of truth shows up in the harmony of the experienced universe.
23:52The Paramarthic and the Vavharic are related.
23:54Why don't you see that?
23:59Prakrati does not support ideas, for example.
24:02Right?
24:02In Prakrati, there are no ideas.
24:05Therefore, in Prakrati, there are no circles.
24:08The earth's orbit is an ellipse.
24:11There are no circles in the universe at all.
24:18Ellipses are there and circle happens to be a special case of an ellipse.
24:24Similarly, there are no squares or rectangles in Prakrati.
24:33You will have curves, you will have arcs.
24:38In fact, a moving particle can never describe a perpendicular turn.
24:44No moving particle can turn at 90 degrees.
24:48That is impossible in Prakrati.
24:52Are you kidding?
24:55They are related.
24:57We keep saying that the universe is our projection.
25:01But you must also ask if it is your projection, even if it is your projection,
25:05even if it is one end of the Ahankar-Sansar duality,
25:09why does the universe appear to follow laws?
25:12Why is there harmony in the universe?
25:14You must ask.
25:16It is because the Paramarth and the Vyavahar are related.
25:27Don't dissociate them.
25:35Never say and never believe in stuff that says outwardly, whatever is going on, let it
25:43continue. Inwardly, you must become clean and pure.
25:47And that kind of spiritual teaching has been doing the rounds rejected totally.
25:58There is that Zen koan that says, you know, there was this woodcutter
26:07and he got enlightened, whatever that means.
26:13And somebody asked him,
26:15what did you do before your enlightenment?
26:18And he said, I used to get up, I used to pick my axe
26:22and travel to the jungle and chop wood
26:25and carry it on my head and sell it and buy food and sleep.
26:31Oh, so that was your routine before enlightenment.
26:34Now, what is your routine after enlightenment?
26:36He says, now I get up, I pick my axe,
26:38I go to the jungle, I chop wood, I sell it, I buy food, I eat it, I sleep.
26:42So, no change at all.
26:44And I totally reject this kind of mindset.
26:49Doesn't matter whether it's coming from Zen or anywhere else.
26:53If you are saying that your outer environment and actions will remain the same even after inner
26:59illumination, then you have had no inner illumination.
27:05What if the fellow were a butcher or a murderer?
27:08Then he would say, I used to pick up the gun,
27:10I used to slaughter the animals or human beings before enlightenment.
27:15Now, after enlightenment, I again pick up the gun and I slaughter human beings and the same thing.
27:20No, no, no, no, no.
27:22The inner eyes must display itself in the outer change.
27:33And it is very convenient for you,
27:36when a book or a teacher tells you, you continue in your same old shop,
27:40just inwardly you become detached and dissociated.
27:43What nonsense is this? Inwardly you become detached.
27:47If you are inwardly detached, why will you externally keep clutching?
27:53No, inwardly I am detached, just externally I am clutching the samosa.
28:00Inwardly I am totally detached.
28:03That's nonsense.
28:06You get this.
28:10So the division remains.
28:15The one who is concerned with the external world does not want to look within.
28:23The one who declares himself a spiritual seeker does not want to corroborate his
28:40inner eyes
28:45outward action.
28:50So we said the division is maintained.
28:53In the first case,
28:54the outer expansion seems to result in no inner clarity or rise.
29:06In the second case,
29:10the
29:13claimed inner rise seems to have no bearing on the outer action.
29:23It is in this context that today's verse becomes very significant.
29:28So it would be very easy to take a totally external, material, cosmological view of the verse and say
29:42that the Gita is declaring that when the ritual of Yagya,
29:46which involves the fire ceremony,
29:50which involves the fire ceremony, the burning of wood,
29:54the several offerings that serve as fuel to the fire,
30:05when that material phenomena is performed,
30:11when that material phenomena is performed,
30:18then a special smoke arises,
30:25special emissions take place,
30:30very unique kind
30:34of gases are produced
30:38and they rise
30:40and they form clouds.
30:43Those clouds rain
30:44and the rains sustain life on the planet.
30:50And that's why Yagya is such a wonderful thing.
30:55And that would be a totally outward view
31:02of the verse.
31:05And we are still
31:07not critiquing that view
31:11from the point of scientific accuracy.
31:16Right? If we take the scientific lens,
31:20we very well know
31:24that the emissions
31:28from burning of wood or other organic material
31:34do not contribute to rain at all.
31:39That's not science. Not at all.
31:41In fact, the opposite is true.
31:46It is not burning wood that
31:51attracts clouds
31:53or makes clouds appear.
31:56It is standing wood,
31:59breathing wood,
32:01living wood that invites the clouds
32:08and hence
32:11causes rains. We know that.
32:15It is the jungles,
32:19the greens,
32:20rains.
32:23They are the ones that
32:26enable rain to happen.
32:30So, that
32:32material interpretation of this verse
32:36would be not
32:38just totally material,
32:40but also
32:42scientifically very misplaced.
32:45though that's the interpretation
32:48doing the rounds
32:52since millennia.
32:56Right?
32:57Even today, if you
33:00go to the common religious person,
33:03the Lok Dharmik,
33:04he will say
33:06that the physical process
33:09of the fire sacrifice,
33:11the Yajya,
33:15brings so many environmental benefits.
33:18They will even say that
33:20burning wood produces oxygen.
33:25A lot of those who call themselves religious
33:30will hold forth
33:32on the benefits of Yajya in this way.
33:36they will say it purifies
33:38the environment,
33:39it kills harmful bacteria
33:43and see
33:46the mighty Gita
33:49herself declares
33:52that Yajya
33:55brings rain,
33:57the same rain that sustains all life.
34:00So, they'll come up with this kind of interpretation,
34:03which is obviously
34:06scientifically very hollow,
34:10rather amusing.
34:13So, that's
34:16the common view.
34:17And we see why it's
34:20more easily accepted,
34:22why it is common at all.
34:24Because we all are
34:27material beings identified with the body.
34:31So, whatsoever is there,
34:34its material interpretation,
34:38its gross interpretation,
34:42will be the first thing to gain currency.
34:46We'll very quickly accept it
34:48when somebody says that the Gita declares
34:51that Yajya causes rains
34:53and rains sustain all life
34:55and therefore,
34:57Yajya
34:58is the basis of all life on the planet.
35:04So, that's
35:06one end of ignorance.
35:11That's one part
35:13of the big divide.
35:18What is the other part?
35:20Now, there would be people who will see
35:23that
35:25this is
35:26not just
35:28scientifically
35:31very hollow,
35:32this interpretation,
35:34but also that it contains
35:38no reference to
35:39any inner movement
35:44and that would alarm them.
35:46They would say
35:46the Gita could not possibly be talking
35:51of
35:53of geography
35:54and biology
35:55and meteorology
35:56and cosmology.
36:00The Gita
36:02is hardly
36:05about
36:07how the climate
36:09and the weather
36:09operate.
36:12Right?
36:13So, surely this verse
36:16cannot have just
36:17a totally
36:19outer meaning,
36:21there ought
36:21to exist
36:23an inner meaning.
36:25So, these people
36:27sense
36:29and smell
36:29something fishy,
36:31so they say
36:31there must be
36:32an inner meaning
36:33to this verse.
36:34So, what do they do?
36:36They pick up
36:38everything mentioned
36:39in the verse
36:40and give it
36:41an
36:43inner interpretation.
36:44So, what have
36:45such people done?
36:48They have said,
36:49you know,
36:53clouds refer
36:55to that
36:56which offers
36:58you something
36:59for free,
37:00because the rains
37:01come for free
37:02and the rains
37:03come from cloud.
37:05So, therefore,
37:07cloud refers
37:08to the source
37:09of all
37:10grace.
37:11Hence,
37:12the clouds
37:13are a metaphor
37:14for benediction.
37:16Fine.
37:17Then,
37:19what is rain?
37:20Rain is
37:21grace itself
37:22because no one
37:24earns rains.
37:25Rains
37:26just happen
37:27like grace.
37:29Okay.
37:31And then,
37:31what are
37:32all
37:33these beings,
37:35the Bhutani
37:37being referred
37:38to in the verse?
37:39Well, you see,
37:41that is the
37:42inner being.
37:44The inner being.
37:46The ego self itself.
37:49It is the ego
37:50that is being referred
37:51to as the inner being.
37:52So,
37:55what the verse means
37:56is that
37:57yajna is
37:58desireless action,
38:00nishkam karm.
38:02And nishkam karm
38:04attracts
38:05grace
38:07because it
38:08pleases
38:08the source
38:09of the grace.
38:11And then,
38:12that grace
38:14nourishes
38:15the ego
38:16in the way.
38:18Rain is
38:19nourished
38:20the plants
38:21and the animals
38:22and the humans.
38:23So, that would be
38:25the inner interpretation.
38:27Now, this inner interpretation
38:29sounds better
38:30than the outer one.
38:31At least,
38:32it is not unscientific.
38:35The outer one
38:38was something
38:38straight out of a circus.
38:42But the
38:44inner one
38:46isn't complete either.
38:51The inner one
38:52still stands divided.
38:54The inner one
38:55still lacks
38:56a certain honesty.
38:58Because in the
38:59inner interpretation,
39:00the outer
39:01has been
39:02totally rejected,
39:03sidelined.
39:05One feels
39:06as if
39:08deliberately
39:09shut out.
39:12I want to talk
39:13of what is happening
39:14within.
39:15I don't want to talk
39:17of what is happening
39:18without.
39:18Why?
39:18Because what is happening
39:20within
39:21can never be tested.
39:23I can just keep claiming
39:24that inside me
39:25certain great things
39:26are happening.
39:28Now, the outer
39:29is available
39:30for verification.
39:32The outer
39:33can be subjected
39:34to tests.
39:37Right?
39:38So, claiming something
39:39in the outer dimension
39:42is risky.
39:44If you say,
39:45for example,
39:45that spirituality
39:47enabled me
39:49to be physically
39:49fitter
39:50and I have lost weight,
39:53then you can be
39:54put on a weighing scale
39:56and your lie
39:57can be called out.
40:00You still weigh
40:01much the same.
40:02In fact,
40:03now you weigh
40:03one kilogram extra,
40:05which is the weight
40:06of your lies.
40:09Right?
40:10But if you say,
40:11you know,
40:11inwardly I have become
40:12lighter,
40:12nobody can test it.
40:16And you can now
40:17strut around
40:18in your spiritual pride.
40:21You can say,
40:23inwardly I have become
40:23lighter.
40:24Therefore,
40:26this inwardness
40:28is a great refuge
40:32for all kinds
40:34of spiritual lies.
40:38And that is why
40:39this division
40:40between the inner
40:41and the outer
40:41is created.
40:42Because the moment
40:44the inner presents itself
40:49to be tested
40:52in an outer way also,
40:53all the pretense
40:55of inner growth
40:56or development
40:57or illumination
40:59can be exposed.
41:02Therefore,
41:03inner decides
41:05deliberately
41:06to remain
41:06only inner.
41:09And hence,
41:10a division between
41:11the inner and outer
41:12becomes necessary.
41:13What is happening to you?
41:15Sir,
41:15great inner growth
41:16is happening to me.
41:17I have lost
41:17all hatred.
41:19I have lost
41:20all fear.
41:21I have lost
41:22anger and desire
41:23and lust
41:24and envy.
41:25Everything I have lost.
41:28But I see no proof
41:30in your day-to-day life.
41:31No sir,
41:32you see all the
41:33change is internal.
41:34How can I show you
41:34any external proof?
41:38So,
41:39this inner thing
41:42is a great deception.
41:44Be cautious
41:45of those
41:45who keep saying
41:46that our external
41:47conditions have remained
41:49the same
41:50even after
41:51our internal
41:53growth or rise.
41:55If you meet such people,
41:56you must know
41:57they are very skilled
41:58liars.
41:59Not ordinary ones.
42:02Accomplished ones.
42:06Internally,
42:07I feel
42:07a ray of light rising.
42:10Does it have weight?
42:11How do you feel it?
42:13Light does not
42:14rise or fall.
42:15But you will meet
42:16such people.
42:17The spiritual market
42:18is full of such seekers.
42:23My mind
42:24experiences
42:25a great inner tension.
42:27It feels like
42:28blasting
42:30when my kundalini
42:31awakens.
42:36A great presence
42:38from somewhere
42:39comes and speaks to me.
42:42Now,
42:42in the
42:45innocent old days,
42:46they would simply say
42:47some ghost,
42:48some soul,
42:49some spirit
42:49is talking to me.
42:51These days,
42:52they name it
42:54more
42:56politely.
42:58Sophisticated lies,
42:59you see.
42:59So,
43:00they won't say
43:00some ghost
43:01is coming and
43:01talking to me.
43:02They will say,
43:02you know,
43:03an external presence
43:04is talking to me.
43:06Some otherness
43:07is talking to me.
43:08But you mean much
43:09the same thing.
43:10And these are all lies.
43:12And you can get away
43:14with these lies
43:14because they can
43:15never be put to test.
43:17You can keep
43:17saying something,
43:18some great energy
43:19is circulating
43:21through me.
43:21Now,
43:22how do we measure it?
43:25But if you say,
43:26you know,
43:27there is current
43:27circulating in the wire,
43:29we can very well
43:30test that.
43:33How many amperes?
43:34Exactly,
43:35we will know
43:35the current.
43:37But you say,
43:38a great energy
43:38is circulating
43:39through my being.
43:40And it's a cosmic energy.
43:43It is coming
43:43from somewhere else.
43:44It is not
43:45my own.
43:46How does one test it?
43:47Therefore,
43:49you can keep
43:50uttering nonsense
43:53without ever being
43:55held accountable.
43:58Do you get this?
44:00And this distinction
44:02between
44:04inner and outer
44:06then has to be
44:06deliberately maintained.
44:08Those who talk
44:10only of the outer
44:11are fools.
44:13And those who
44:14talk only of the inner
44:15are shrewd.
44:18You must
44:21neither be stupid
44:23nor cunning.
44:26In fact,
44:27it is
44:28in some way better
44:29to be stupid
44:29than cunning.
44:33If you think
44:34that this verse
44:36means that
44:36Yajna causes
44:37rains,
44:38physical rains,
44:39and that's what
44:39Shri Krishna
44:40is holding forth on,
44:41you can probably
44:43be corrected.
44:44Maybe after this session,
44:45you would have
44:46some genuine insight.
44:49But those who say
44:51Yajna is about
44:54the rise of
44:56inner energy
44:56or,
44:57you know,
44:58I hear strange
44:58sounds
44:59or I get
45:00special visions
45:03or some
45:05special figure
45:06occurs to me
45:07at night
45:07in my dreams
45:09and plays with me
45:11and fondles me
45:12and what not.
45:13One doesn't want
45:14to go into that.
45:16You know,
45:19you will continue
45:20on your own.
45:21In fact,
45:21if somebody comes
45:22to
45:24even discuss
45:25this with you,
45:26you will have
45:27one patent
45:29response.
45:32You know what
45:32you will say?
45:33You will say,
45:34since you have not
45:35experienced it,
45:36therefore,
45:36you are denying it.
45:40So,
45:40in fact,
45:43your denial
45:43proves your inferiority
45:45because you are denying
45:46it only because
45:47you have not
45:47experienced it
45:48and you have not
45:48experienced it
45:49because you are
45:50not pure enough.
45:51You see,
45:52I am a pure soul.
45:54Therefore,
45:55I experience all
45:56these mystical
45:57phenomena
45:58within my body.
46:00Only pure souls
46:01experience that.
46:04You are questioning me
46:05because you are not
46:06a pure soul.
46:06Whatever that means,
46:07pure soul.
46:08You are not a pure soul,
46:09so you are questioning me
46:10and I cannot
46:11demonstrate it to you
46:12because you see,
46:13it is a thing of experience.
46:15Only those who have
46:16experienced it
46:17will know it.
46:18Have you not heard
46:19of all this nonsense?
46:21And this is why
46:22the division between
46:23the internal
46:24and the external
46:25must be maintained.
46:28I remain
46:30a terribly insecure
46:31fellow
46:33that shows up
46:34in all my worldly
46:34dealings,
46:35in my family,
46:36in my business,
46:36in my office,
46:37in my politics.
46:37It shows up everywhere.
46:39I remain terribly insecure.
46:41But I keep claiming
46:43that inwardly,
46:45I am
46:48best friends
46:49with my
46:50favourite God.
46:54That when I close my eyes,
46:57special devotional music
46:59rings in my ears.
47:00Only in my ears,
47:02you see.
47:05Because I am a pure soul.
47:06And I cannot communicate
47:07that to you because
47:08that thing is very subjective.
47:09It happens only to me.
47:10This subjectivity,
47:13this subjectivity
47:14must be nipped at the bud.
47:16Wherever you
47:16hear something
47:18that can be experienced
47:19only by that
47:21so-called pure soul
47:22and is neither
47:23verifiable nor falsifiable,
47:25you must smell
47:27fraud cooking.
47:32Outright fraud.
47:38And this division is also
47:43the conventional division
47:44between the
47:45Paramarthik and the
47:46Vyavharik.
47:49You have put all your
47:51science only at the
47:52Vyavharik level.
47:54And you have put
47:56everything else,
47:57all your spirituality
47:58at the
47:58Paramarthik level.
47:59So, physics at
48:01Vyavharik and
48:01metaphysics at
48:03Paramarthik.
48:04And you have
48:05disconnected the two.
48:06You have divided.
48:09Do you understand this?
48:11You have divided.
48:14And Sri Krishna is out
48:16to demolish the division.
48:18The ego is a range.
48:19Right?
48:21And to rise,
48:23the ego must see the futility
48:25of the objects that hold it
48:29at its current level.
48:31Right?
48:32And then there would be an ascension.
48:34Now, the objects are all
48:38material.
48:39But the ego is a thing subtle,
48:42inner.
48:43Now, this is the genius of the Gita.
48:47The Gita is linking the outer to the inner.
48:51Inwardly,
48:52Inwardly, you are stuck at a lowly place
48:55because of the external material objects
48:59you have related yourself to.
49:01So, no division.
49:02No division, sir.
49:03The outer and the inner are very much related.
49:08And inner rise
49:10will show up in your outer associations.
49:13As long as those outer associations remain the same.
49:17All your claims regarding inner rise
49:22are just
49:25false.
49:26Not just false.
49:28You are being deceptive.
49:29You are being loud mouthed.
49:35Not a spiritual fraud.
49:40There has to be a connection.
49:42This division is not permissible.
49:45Whenever you have a verse,
49:46if you have a totally material or cosmological interpretation,
49:55at best it can be factual.
49:57But then it will not be inwardly useful.
50:02At best.
50:03Therefore, if you come across a totally material interpretation
50:07of a work of wisdom,
50:13at best it can be factual.
50:17Factual.
50:19But it won't be truthful.
50:22It won't help the ego rise to truth.
50:27Are you getting it?
50:29For example,
50:31if I say,
50:34pay attention,
50:36that that
50:38which flies high
50:41will definitely
50:42will definitely crash one day on the ground.
50:45But that
50:48which is one with the soil
50:50will never suffer a crash.
50:52What I am saying is scientifically
50:54very right,
50:55very factual.
50:56But if you limit yourself to just its scientific accuracy,
51:01then you are missing the inner point.
51:06A work of wisdom
51:08will carry both scientific accuracy
51:12and an inner dimension.
51:18The ball that has been tossed up will certainly come down.
51:22Now, this is true as per Newton's laws.
51:25But this also has
51:28a spiritual truth contained in it.
51:31Do you understand?
51:32When you
51:33when you look
51:34at gravitation
51:37as the pull of inner tendencies
51:40and when you look
51:41at the lobbed object
51:43as ego
51:45that has been thrown up
51:46only by the force of circumstance,
51:49then you know that ego
51:51even if it has been
51:53lobbed up by an external force
51:56will ultimately succumb to the force
51:58of its own compulsive gravitation
52:01and will fall down.
52:02Then you see both
52:04at both levels
52:05you are being parallelly, concurrently exact.
52:09You are scientifically not misplaced.
52:11and what you are putting forth as a scientific statement
52:19is actually a good, a great and useful metaphor for inner growth as well.
52:27That would be the mark of a truly good word of wisdom.
52:37Are you getting it?
52:38If it holds only external truth then at best it is
52:41factual, scientific which is fine.
52:43But if I want to learn science,
52:44I would rather go to a book of science.
52:46Why will I come to the Bhagavad Gita?
52:47The Bhagavad Gita is not here to teach me physics.
52:51Are you getting it?
52:53Worse than that is when you interpret
52:55the Gita in a way which is not even
52:58scientific.
52:59Like saying, you know,
53:01when we had
53:03the Covid tragedy,
53:05a lot of so-called religious people were saying
53:07we must have
53:08a lot of fire sacrifices.
53:13Let's perform Yagya.
53:16And that will kill the Covid virus.
53:19You are deeply disrespecting the Gita.
53:24You are deeply disrespecting the Gita.
53:27You are using Yagya as an air purifier.
53:32You are using Yagya as some kind of cloud seeding mechanism.
53:38What are you doing?
53:40And that has been happening since centuries.
53:48India, agriculture has been largely dependent on monsoons.
53:53Right?
53:53India, agriculture has been largely dependent on monsoons.
53:57And it used to be a very common practice.
54:02To perform Yagya when the skies won't open up.
54:07It's not raining.
54:09It's not raining.
54:12Let's as villagers all gather
54:15and have a massive Yagya.
54:18And that will please the gods and we will have rains.
54:21That is what has been happening.
54:22You are insulting not just science,
54:24but also works of wisdom, also spirituality.
54:32Are you getting it?
54:34Gita will not bear any dishonesty.
54:37Gita will not allow any division between the inner and the outer.
54:42The Viharic and the Paramarthic have to be kneaded into one.
54:50Are you getting this?
54:52Are you getting this?
54:55Inner rise must show up in external change.
55:03Inner evolution must show up in your external ethics.
55:11The change of the actor must manifest in the change of action.
55:27Then there is honesty.
55:29Now the inner and the outer are one.
55:31Now the Viharic and the Paramarthic are hand in hand.
55:38Getting it?
55:39So the outer interpretation of this verse is obviously stupid.
55:45Though that's what has been accepted since long.
55:47If you perform Yagya, you will remove all the bacteria and the virus.
55:52If you perform Yagya, gods will be happy.
55:56If you perform Yagya, you will release oxygen in the environment.
56:00All those kinds of things.
56:04And if that is stupid, then the other end of the divide is Shrut.
56:13What does the other end of the divide say?
56:15Oh, Yagya is about inner rise and inner rise alone.
56:22Yagya is about inner rise.
56:26Now these true people are not dumb.
56:28They are intellectual enough to understand that Yagya refers to an Ishkaam Karam.
56:32They know that.
56:35They understand that.
56:38But they are not honest enough to actually internally rise.
56:43So they make their intellectual comprehension, food and nutrition for their ego.
56:54They say, yes, Yagya means to live in a way that raises your inner self.
57:01And we are experiencing a genuine rise in our inner self.
57:07Yes.
57:09Don't you see that in my eyes?
57:12Don't you see that in the glow on my face?
57:15Don't you experience that in my vibes?
57:20Don't you feel that in my aura?
57:24They won't display that in their actions, in the P&L of their business, right?
57:36In the books of their shops.
57:38They won't display that in all that, in the real relationship with their spouses and their kids.
57:44In the view that they hold of opposing communities and ideologies.
57:51Nowhere would any inner rise show up.
57:54But they will keep saying, I have risen internally and that is showing up in my aura and vibes.
58:02Frauds.
58:03Very shrewd people.
58:05We are to be neither stupid nor shrewd.
58:10The internal and the external are anyway necessarily connected.
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