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00:10The average couple has 2.3 children in their lifetime.
00:17But the record that one couple have had is thought to be over 40.
00:23But what if I were to tell you that there is a man alive today who may have fathered
00:28over a thousand children, and it's still going?
00:36What kind of man would do that?
00:42I got to know him on the internet.
00:44When you look at his video, he has beautiful blonde hair with a big smile.
00:49And I'm ready to have beautiful babies.
00:53He said, I'm willing to help five families.
00:56He lied.
00:57There weren't four families or five families.
00:59There were already hundreds.
01:01Overseas, a Dutch man is facing legal action for allegedly fathering at least 550 children.
01:08Holy s***!
01:11Why are you putting so many children on this earth?
01:15Why?
01:16It's become an addiction for him.
01:18He actually can't stop himself.
01:24He wants to have the most children in his street.
01:28I know he traveled to a lot of countries in the world.
01:31And the question is, how big is this?
01:33How many kids are there?
01:39What happens psychologically to these children that have 700, 800, 900 brothers and sisters?
01:46We were determined to stop him.
01:51This man has really f***ed with the wrong women.
02:14I always knew that I wanted to be a mom.
02:17I wanted to have the baby growing in my belly.
02:23I want to have the same experience as my mother did and my grandmother did.
02:30I was 28 and I was living in Rotterdam with my ex-girlfriend.
02:36We don't talk about the ex.
02:37Don't get me f***ing started.
02:43And we wanted to have children.
02:45You felt ready.
02:47Yeah, there's an expression in Dutch that your ijerslokker rammelen.
02:52That means your ovaries are starting to wiggle.
03:01Everywhere I looked, I saw babies.
03:03Women getting pregnant.
03:04Babies, babies, babies.
03:05If you want to have a baby, everywhere you see people with babies.
03:14From a very young age, I always wanted to be a mom.
03:17It's difficult to describe.
03:19It's just something that is just there.
03:29I didn't find a man that would have kids with me.
03:33And the older I got, the desire to have kids became very strong.
03:38What went on in my mind?
03:40It's just crazy.
03:45I had three kids from a previous marriage and I had a vasectomy after the third child.
03:51And then, of course, I married a wife that's younger than I am.
03:56And then we went back to the doctor to see if I could have my vasectomy undone.
03:59And that turned out that was impossible.
04:03When you're a lesbian, you're not, yeah, it's not like you're gonna have sex someday and then you're gonna get
04:10pregnant.
04:11And I'm not, not, not gonna have sex with a guy.
04:18There are the sperm banks you can go to, but you can't meet the sperm donor in person.
04:24I want to look the sperm donor in the eye and see if this personality also fits with my personality.
04:32Because a sperm donor is making up 50% of your child.
04:38There are websites online with donors who are willing to provide in private.
04:46Not to go to sperm banks, but going privately to a house and donating there.
04:54And I found a website called Verlangen naar een Kind.
04:59Longing voor een child.
05:00And then when I opened it, I saw sperm.
05:04Everywhere was sperm.
05:08There were many, many, many profiles.
05:11You couldn't see pictures, but you could see just a little description.
05:17I was like, there are so many guys here who are willing to donate sperm.
05:26I hit enter and then all of a sudden,
05:29in your mind you start creating a profile, a real image.
05:37It's like when you go to an ice cream salon and you want to buy an ice cream and you
05:43can see all the different types of flavors and you can choose from it.
05:48And in the bottom, you see an email address and you can email the person directly.
05:52And I found it perfect.
05:57Then I write some of the donors an email with our story.
06:06There are weird people out there who wanted to make the baby at a natural way.
06:12So not with a cup, but only natural.
06:15To actually have sex.
06:16To have sex.
06:17So I was like, no, thanks.
06:18I have a husband and I have enough.
06:28The first donor we found was Leon.
06:32He was 35 with a good set of brains.
06:35That he had a job as a financial advisor at a big bank and that he is sympathetic and kind.
06:48He suggested that we should meet.
06:50The first time he sent me pictures of him when he was a child.
06:54So I asked him right away, can I have a recent picture of you?
06:59Because if you are going on a date with somebody, you want a picture of the guy or the girl.
07:06He sent me a picture of him with half of his face on it.
07:11And I found that a bit sketchy.
07:16But I was like, okay, let's go ahead, let's meet him.
07:24And when I met him, I was horrified.
07:31He didn't look like a banker.
07:33He didn't look like somebody who has good sets of brains.
07:38And he didn't have any hair on his whole body.
07:44And then he had a scar from his left ear to his right ear on the back of his head.
07:50So I saw the scar and I was like, what is wrong with this guy?
07:56And I thought, no, not with you, not with your genes.
07:59You're not going to procreate with my genes.
08:02No, no, no, no, we're not going to do that.
08:04But there probably is another guy.
08:13If you're gay, you're not able to have a child with another woman, of course.
08:17So I used the website for long and a kid, long for a child.
08:21It's really weird.
08:22It's like a shop.
08:33So I went online and I found another guy, 29, good looking, good set of hairs, good set
08:41of brains, a teacher.
08:43And I thought, okay, it's worth to message this guy again.
08:47And the next one called himself Maarten.
09:00In the first email, he sent pictures of himself, not baby pictures, but actual pictures of how
09:06he looked just now.
09:08It is with his hair all curled up and pretty and nice and looked in the camera.
09:15And it was like a day and night difference between the first one and that one.
09:22He made a connection with you.
09:26Maarten was attracting because he was an artist.
09:29He likes music, playing music, making music.
09:32He had curly hair.
09:34That was very nice.
09:36Yeah, that were points that I really liked.
09:39And then I responded on his profile.
09:43He put it in brackets that his name was an alias.
09:46After two emails, he said, I use Maarten as an alias and my real name is Jonathan.
09:51The person that spoke to me was Walter.
09:54Then he replied to me with Jacob.
09:58I phoned him and all of a sudden I heard another name.
10:04And it was Jonathan.
10:06And that was weird.
10:09Because the first time he was Walter and then he was Jacob and then it was Jonathan.
10:15He explained that Jonathan was his first name and Jacob was his second name and Walter was
10:20just a fictive name.
10:23Because of his sperm donor life and his personal life, he wanted to keep them separated.
10:29It made total sense.
10:33We texted.
10:34He was so easy to talk to.
10:36Just a guy next door and like he could be a friend.
10:42I wasn't looking for looks.
10:44I wanted to have a donor who have the best interest for the donor child.
10:48So it felt really good.
10:51Of course I googled him.
10:53I looked him up and I saw his YouTube channel.
11:08Jonathan has a YouTube channel and he's posting videos, maybe two a week, about his lifestyle
11:15and about his way of living and music.
11:20He is just posting from beautiful places and beautiful hotels and he was very confident
11:27and happy in those videos.
11:29Say hi to my video blog.
11:32For the people that haven't seen my blogs before, they're mostly about food, sports, educating
11:38yourself, learning new things.
11:41You did think it was a little bit peculiar.
11:43Yes, I saw a few videos about eating raw meat.
11:48Today I'm eating raw beef.
11:54We did joke about it afterwards that he had some very weird habits, but I guess you have
12:00to be a little bit unique here to do this.
12:12We arrived first and we were sitting there and we were waiting there and there was a concert
12:18pianist who was playing on a piano.
12:25I was watching people coming and going and every man that came around the corner, I was asking
12:32myself, well, is that him?
12:37And yes, that's him.
12:40Okay, that's a good looking guy.
12:43Jeez.
12:44Well, yeah, he could be the father of my child.
12:53Jonathan came and we introduced ourselves.
12:58He looked exactly like he did in the pictures.
13:03I thought he was an attractive guy.
13:06He had curly hair, he had bright blue eyes, good set of teeth.
13:11He looked good.
13:15We were there a little bit early, so we already sat down.
13:18He ordered something to drink and then he walked in.
13:20Over the dinner or lunch, you talked everything through and to see if there's also this connection.
13:32What did you know it's about?
13:34His hair.
13:36Immediately.
13:37We really hope that our kids have his hair.
13:40Because he has a beautiful head of curls.
13:47He told me that he was not going to the hairdresser from that point and he was planning to let
13:52it grow.
13:52And he did.
13:53Yeah, his hair is amazing.
13:56Hi, thank you for watching a new video blog.
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14:04want to stop balding, reverse balding, you have to get out and get some sun.
14:09People that do this, you expect them to have a little bit of an alternative lifestyle and way of thinking.
14:15He was quite proud of that.
14:27He has a very big range of subjects to talk about.
14:32He knows a lot.
14:32He seems very believable and he can really draw you in.
14:36I want to talk about how to learn a language in only 15 minutes every day.
14:41Today I wanted to talk about hedonism and nihilism as a lifestyle.
14:46Today I will explain how to make a low-carb pancake.
14:49He was talking about being a teacher, that he loved that.
14:52And I was like, okay, this is nice because I come from a family of teachers and we have a
14:59connection about that.
15:00And he told me that he was building orphanages for the children in Kenya.
15:08I befriended a guy in college and he told me that he was infertile.
15:13Yeah, that made a huge impact on me.
15:16And I was just imagining, well, what would it be if I became a donor?
15:21They really helped building his families to make a dream come true.
15:27He wants to help, he wants to donate, but he didn't like the sperm banks at all because the sperm
15:33banks were making money.
15:36Out of it and he didn't want to make money out of it.
15:39He wanted to be more philanthropic.
15:42In the Netherlands, when you have a child from a clinic, you have to wait for 16 years to know
15:48who your donor is and to have contact with him.
15:50And I really want to have contact from the beginning.
15:54I see the children a few times in the year.
15:57I think it's for all most optimal, but I totally find, I totally accept that parents choose to do something
16:07else, choose what they prefer.
16:09It's about them, it's not about me.
16:10He was very willing to be in our lives, to have contact.
16:14Yeah, I thought I found the perfect match.
16:19He told me he had helped two families.
16:23And I was the third and the third child at that time.
16:31I asked him, how many people are you willing to help?
16:35And he said, I'm willing to help five families.
16:38I'm like one of the five people you are willing to help.
16:42Ka-ching and every, and the dollar bills are flying in.
16:45So I thought I was very lucky at that moment.
16:48A hallelujah moment, I guess.
16:50Ah, found someone.
16:57When you're ovulating, the window you can conceive a child is like three days.
17:03So it's a really tight window.
17:11He said maybe we could drive up to collect the sperm and then drive back again to our house and
17:17then do the insemination.
17:19The plan was I'm going to put a cup between my legs to keep it warm and I drive home
17:23as fast as I can.
17:25That was the plan.
17:29And then he came outside.
17:31He was walking to the car.
17:32Here, success, success.
17:34And I was like, oh yeah, thank you.
17:37It is gross, you know, it's so gross.
17:43Keeping the sperm warm is very important because you know if you are not at home at a certain time,
17:50the semen is already dead.
17:53The semen was in his cup, so I have to be fast.
18:09So I was looking on the map where she was telling her where to go.
18:15We have no time for this because the semen is dying between my legs.
18:19I thought, okay, this is not going to happen this month.
18:24And then I was like, okay, I parked my car in the street and I was like, okay, there's nobody
18:30here, okay.
18:31You're going upstairs and then you get the syringe pulled up.
18:34You put your legs up, you squeeze it out and then it can go through the process of getting through
18:40to the egg.
18:41So I do the insemination in my car, sitting behind the wheel.
18:50So we tried it a couple of times, but it didn't work.
18:56So I suggested to him, maybe you can come to our house and donate there.
19:03And he was willing to do that.
19:05I travel most of the times to the recipients to donate at their place, in their bathroom.
19:19I gave him a towel and I asked him to do it.
19:22And a cup.
19:24I had a little basket to keep it warm.
19:27The moment came that he went to do his thing and he went upstairs.
19:33He goes up to the bathroom, he jerks himself off.
19:40It took forever as well.
19:42Yes, you sit there on the couch.
19:44Waiting for him to donate.
19:45Waiting and waiting and knowing what he's doing in your bathroom.
19:49It's very, very awkward.
19:50It was the longest 45 minutes of my life.
19:57Then he left it in my bathroom.
20:01And then I just found it, like an easter egg.
20:07Sorry.
20:11He told me he looked at my Facebook account.
20:16And he told me I looked nice and just some flattering things.
20:20You look beautiful.
20:21You look amazing.
20:26He was very flirty.
20:28Almost like seducing you.
20:30I don't see myself as pretty or anything.
20:35But it's nice when someone gives you compliments on how you look.
20:46When he came to my place to donate, he offered me the opportunity to conceive in a natural way by
20:56having sex.
21:02When we talked about it, it made sense that it would be the most effective way to conceive.
21:10And he told me it's okay that he wouldn't tell anyone else and it's just between us and that's it.
21:22And then finally, I decided to try it in a natural way.
21:49I found out I was pregnant by the first time.
21:52And unfortunately, it broke down.
21:54We went for a second try after two or three weeks.
22:00And then the second time, I was pregnant.
22:03Straight away?
22:04Yeah.
22:05Super sperm.
22:08Two weeks later, I was nauseous.
22:11I'm pregnant.
22:14Oh, my God.
22:15Oh, my God.
22:15Oh, my God.
22:16Oh, my God.
22:17I'm pregnant.
22:19What do I do?
22:22The second time, I knew when he drove away.
22:26I felt like a butterfly or something going up in my body.
22:32And I was like, this one, this one is going to stick.
22:37Nine months later, I had a baby boy.
22:41Loveliest baby in the world.
22:42I was so, so, so, so, so happy.
22:47Nine months later, we get a beautiful daughter.
22:50And I was like, oh, my God, she's perfect.
22:57It was such a beautiful moment to have your little baby in your arms and to look at it.
23:06And then I broke out in tears.
23:09Oh, she's really mine and I did it.
23:12And, yeah, wonderful.
23:24I was very thankful.
23:27He gave me the most precious thing in my life.
23:33It was perfect at that time.
23:36Yeah, maybe it was too perfect.
23:45I'm Max Keuss.
23:46I'm a clinical embryologist.
23:48I'm part of a team that is helping women and couples that are trying to conceive.
23:54We have a sperm bank.
23:56We freeze sperm from sperm donors.
24:01We start with a written agreement that the donor will not be active for other clinics or for other women.
24:08The donor will only donate in our clinic because we still had the guideline that a sperm donor was not
24:15allowed to have more than 25 children in the Netherlands.
24:20But we found out there was a sperm donor who had deceived us.
24:28I was at my work and he received an anonymous email.
24:33The message was hard to believe.
24:39Dear fertility doctor, there's a sperm donor active on the internet who probably has more than 150 children in the
24:46Netherlands.
24:49He goes under several aliases.
24:53The donor indicates to prospective wish parents that he wants to be a donor, a maximum of five times.
25:03Most of his children were conceived via self-insemination at the homes of intended mothers.
25:17However, he has also been a sperm donor at many clinics in the Netherlands.
25:26The reason why we have a guideline that a sperm donor could not have more children than 25 is to
25:32reduce the risk of consanguinity.
25:36That's half siblings who are not aware that they are half siblings are attracted to each other and will have
25:43children together.
25:46If this story was true, what will it mean in the future for the children?
25:56I work at the preschool as a teacher and my colleague used a donor as well.
26:02And she asked me, do you know who your donor is?
26:06And I said, yes, of course I know who my donor is.
26:08And, oh, where does he come from?
26:11I said, well, he's coming from Den Haag.
26:15And then I saw her face like going, oh.
26:19And I asked, oh, what do you mean?
26:22Well, my donor is coming from Den Haag as well.
26:26She said, what is his name?
26:28And I said, Jonathan.
26:30And then we were like on the hallway at work.
26:34I think we laughed.
26:35And I remember her telling me, well, in that case, our kids will know each other and they will grow
26:43up as siblings, half-siblings.
26:45And we were like, oh, well, that would be great, a little family.
26:55A couple of years later, I found out that another colleague who had a daughter, she said, hey, I think
27:02the girls look alike.
27:04The children are blonde.
27:06And you see the eyebrows are the same and the nose and the ears.
27:13That's the point we found out.
27:15We both used Jonathan as well.
27:18It's also a classmate of my niece who called me a few years later telling me she has a son.
27:27It was also a friend of my first boyfriend who was telling me she has a son.
27:33It's also somebody from my birth town who says she has a child.
27:39And then you think, if there are so many connections in my direct environment, how many are there?
27:51Sorry.
27:53Oh, just in time for the soundbite.
28:00Have you been eating?
28:02What have you been eating?
28:05The corncommersalade of my dad.
28:07But you had also eaten yesterday?
28:10Yes, dear.
28:11Sleep, sleep, rest, rest, rest, rest.
28:17we started talking about having another family member and i said to to natalie i only only want
28:26a kid if it's from that donor maybe we could ask jonathan again if he is willing to donate
28:36i made a text okay hi jonathan we want a second child do you want to help us again
28:43so it was um so exciting when he just like replied quickly quite fast that he wants to come over
28:59we discussed a little bit of politics and yeah we also discussed the donations you asked him the
29:07question yeah how many how many children do you have now and he was telling me 25
29:18and i was like oh that's a lot
29:26i was shocked actually when he when he said the number it was really
29:32right in my face he explained it he said okay but it's the the length of the time and there
29:39there are a couple of women who have uh seconds or sometimes thirds and i was like okay if if
29:46you do
29:47the math then it's it's it isn't that bad so um we yeah yeah we accepted it we went ahead
29:59and after a while we noticed that it still didn't work yeah i was 36 so the window of opportunity
30:07is
30:07rapidly closing he told me well i will be there when your cycle is there and then
30:19for three months in a row he wasn't and finally um i got a hold of him and then he
30:28told me he had to
30:29go to uh to mexico for work and the next round came and it was really difficult to get a
30:38hold of
30:40jonathan makes these youtube videos and we we got an impression from watching those videos that he was
30:48traveling uh around hi thank you for watching my video blog today i'm in rome and behind me is the
30:55coliseum at the time he created videos talking about crypto and about investing he needed to travel
31:02because of um the partners he worked with and um yeah you needed to meet them
31:14hi thank you for watching my new video blog today i'm in switzerland in zurich and i want to talk
31:21about
31:21why i think bitcoin will be very big and very important in the future it gives the impression
31:28that he's maybe a bit too busy to help us it's frustrating yeah it was so frustrating you don't
31:35want to complain because you're you're dependent on on him yeah because if you complain maybe he will back
31:41off so the next month came
31:52then he said he wanted to meet at one of the biggest shopping malls here in the netherlands
31:56he told me that he was doing a job close by
32:02and then he went to a restroom i was like what are you going to do that i'm gonna do
32:06the donation here
32:07and i was like the hell what is he going to do there
32:15he was actually jerking off in a public bathroom where there are other guys standing next to him
32:22taking a piss or taking a dump it was felt like yeah you're very graphic yeah but but you need
32:32to be
32:32graphic because it's it's it's it's weird it's actually disgusting
32:40we still inseminated it we did that but we said no more no we just gave up yeah with pain
32:49in our hearts
32:54we drove to his house again nine months later we had a lovely baby boy
33:09the sperm banks in the netherlands they came in contact with each other it was found out that he was
33:16indeed active in 11 clinics and as a result this donor had 102 children only in the sperm banks in
33:25the
33:25netherlands hard to imagine we needed to inform every patient who was ever treated with donor sperm
33:39everybody had to be informed we came to the hospital and we started calling patients
33:46of course patients were shocked were angry were sad or crying
33:56that was the moment when i received the mail the newspaper is going to publish now
34:03it was 2017 and i was sitting in the car with my mom and my daughter and there was a
34:11news item on the radio
34:14of a man who donated in 11 clinics in the netherlands and that he had 102 children and i was
34:23just making
34:24fun to my mom saying oh i wouldn't be surprised is that if that would be jonathan and 10 minutes
34:30later i
34:31was called by the colleague saying that it was about jonathan
34:41the moment i heard there were already 102 from the clinic i was just starting to ask myself i am
34:49from
34:49a private donation how many private donations did he do and how many more children are there
35:07like on every saturday i picked up the newspaper i stumbled upon this article about a mass donor and
35:17it sounded like jonathan it was a shock it was really a shock yeah
35:25and the first thing i did was actually call natalie
35:34darling i think that you need to come home there's nothing nothing urgent but we we need to discuss
35:46something i drove quickly to our house parked the car came in and asked what is going on
35:57and she said you need to sit down and you need to read this and i picked up the newspaper
36:05and i read the
36:06article from start till end and i was like my god what the actual is going on what has he
36:16done why has he
36:18done this my daughter wasn't his eighth he wasn't his 25th she was his over a hundredth donor child in
36:33the
36:33netherlands and um that hit me like a ton of bricks
36:45i wanted to find other moms we had to stop him
36:51i found out that there was a facebook group with more parents
36:57when i joined the facebook group i got in contact with nicolette and she shared a picture of her
37:04her daughter and my daughter is just a spitting image of hers if they had the same age they could
37:12be twins it's just crazy the group grew and grew and grew and every week another mother was let into
37:23the group another mother and another mother first time we talked to nicolette it was the first time
37:29we talked to someone in the same situation um i asked him how many kids he already had and he
37:35said
37:36i was i was going to be the third and he told me that he only donated to three women
37:44he said there were three three my daughter was the fourth my child would have been the third
37:54he is lying and still lying he's drowning in his in his own in his own lies and we all
38:01believed him when
38:03he said three it was three
38:08you try as a mom you try to protect your children from everything and this was something i could not
38:15protect them
38:19it was also the story about the three children in almera that were in the same area and even in
38:26the
38:26same school they were on the same uh and then we thought about oh what if these children meet each
38:32other and maybe have a connection or fall in love and they don't know that they're related and that's
38:38when the when the real panic started that's when that's where when we saw the real danger in this
38:45maybe there's another child in your street you know every blonde kid i was like is that a jonathan
38:52kid i was obsessed with it so many connections it's like immense and you know it's getting bigger
39:04because you hear it but you don't want to hear it and you don't want to know it because you
39:08don't want
39:09to be in that situation i think it's like blocking your emotions or blocking the truth it's like a
39:17horror situation you don't want to be in there something snapped i was angry i was mad i was like
39:29what did he do and why did he do this i tried i tried so hard to find a reason
39:37in it but i still can't
39:39find a reason i can't i can't understand why are you so willingly putting so many children on this
39:51earth why the next day i contacted jonathan i asked i said i know about the numbers i said i'm
40:00going to
40:01hang you by your balls from the highest tree i would grab him by the balls and turn him inside
40:07out
40:08don't mess with a mom then we realized that every youtube movie was in another country and the
40:17question is did he donate in all those countries as well today i'm in canada and behind me are the
40:23niagara quarterfalls was he actually doing something with with them with crypto yeah or not today i'm in
40:30thailand in bangkok egypt in hughada sweden in malmo stuttgart nuremberg in prague vienna
40:36it's terrifying to see him pop up in all of those countries on his youtube channels like he doesn't
40:42care about what's going on while our world crumbles you just start thinking how big is this
40:48how many kids are there hundreds thousands i don't know hi thank you for watching my video
40:56today i'm in toronto in canada today i'm in hong kong today i'm in new york on the brooklyn bridge
41:14with every country on youtube it felt like the earth under my feet went away today i'm down under
41:22here in australia
41:27hi hi i'm kate and i'm laura we're from sydney australia and we have two beautiful sons
41:39so
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