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00:00Pasternak's goal.
00:02Yeah, not me.
00:02No.
00:03I don't want to listen to it.
00:03I watched it.
00:04Yeah, it was good enough.
00:05It was enough.
00:06I saw it.
00:06Yeah, it wasn't great.
00:07Biggest Sabres game since when?
00:11Tuesday.
00:13Sure.
00:14Is this a bigger game than Game 5?
00:17Yes, it's one game further into the series.
00:19Therefore, one game closer to potentially having your season end.
00:24So it's a bigger game.
00:25Okay.
00:27One more game that doesn't go your way, then you've got the –
00:31I heard Jeremy talking.
00:32I heard a lot of the morning show today, funny enough.
00:37The guillotine is now hanging above both your heads.
00:40Somebody's going home if you don't, you know, in Game 7.
00:43So the Sabres have not had that hanging over them at all yet in this series.
00:47So they have not had the urgency of the desperation of, you know, it ending.
00:55Not that that has to change anything.
00:58But, so, yeah, this one's bigger than Tuesday.
01:01Okay.
01:01What about before this series started?
01:04The last game that was bigger than this one?
01:06I mean, there's only one – well, I mean, eventually there's going to be one.
01:10You're going to find one.
01:11I mean, I think Game 7 in 2011.
01:15I mean, it's an elimination game, you know.
01:17Game 7, they still only have one of those in their history that went their way.
01:23You know, not that we were really high on that team as, like, a contender or anything.
01:28We were just relieved they got in and they had new ownership.
01:30It was a pretty easygoing time, I think, in Sabre fandom.
01:36Like, I think, you know, they'd made the playoffs the year before.
01:40Pagoula took over.
01:41They had a crazy mad dash.
01:43Which, I don't – I remember really wanting them to win Game 7 just because I hate the specter of
01:49them not ever doing it
01:50and always letting everyone down and all that.
01:53And so, I remember really wanting it, but it wasn't – the urgency to win because you think they could
02:00really win the Cup wasn't there.
02:01And I think it is still there with this team.
02:04Me too.
02:04At least in the East.
02:06I mean, we'll see what happens out West.
02:08You know, I don't want to assume that they can't run with anybody out there.
02:12And I also don't want to assume that the team that looks the most daunting is going to make it.
02:16I mean, they might lose to Minnesota in the second round, Colorado.
02:18We don't need to know yet.
02:19But you're right.
02:22Clearly, this team has an opportunity to make a run.
02:26And anybody can, but that wasn't really where our heads were, I mean, what, 15 years ago?
02:32Who even cares?
02:33But, yeah, I mean, this is – or even the year before that, 07, it was definitely that.
02:39And, you know, somebody might be out there trying to think about how the Sabres would match up with the
02:44Avalanche.
02:44I'm not.
02:45I just know that if they win the night, they're going to have Montreal or Tampa in here, what, Tuesday
02:50or Wednesday?
02:51And we do it all again, and that'll just be the best.
02:53Right.
02:54That'll be better than this was.
02:55Yes.
02:56I mean, you're obviously probably purposely ignoring that one Columbus game that the Sabres lost.
03:03When they could have set a franchise record for – oh, sorry.
03:07Okay.
03:07That's the biggest game.
03:08I rushed you.
03:09That's the – Cam Atkinson game is the last game bigger than this one.
03:12I thought you were referencing the game that would have been an 11th win in a row this winter.
03:17That would have been a franchise mark, I believe.
03:18No one cares about that.
03:19All I did was tie the franchise record with 10 in a row.
03:22Yeah, nobody cares.
03:23Regular season.
03:23Although, for some reason, when you said Columbus,
03:25that's the first thing I thought of.
03:26No, Cam Atkinson.
03:27Yeah, yeah, yeah.
03:28That was a big one.
03:29Yeah.
03:29As it turns out, maybe, you know, it wasn't as big as we thought at the time.
03:34I had an interesting conversation with our manager here a few minutes ago.
03:38He and his son were at the game.
03:40He's, well, your age, and his son is in his 20s.
03:44And he was describing how when the game ended, he and – this is the dad – he and another
03:51guy who was older than he was, he thought, in their row, kind of got up and just started to
03:57leave.
03:57And the son was in a tirade that they lost.
04:02Like, why does this always happen?
04:04And his theory was that, you know, just to extrapolate it, if you will, the younger generation of fans, I
04:14mean, maybe doesn't want to be burdened with the same history and is sort of tight about – they know
04:21that.
04:21They know the history of the Sabres and Bills, and they don't want to be sort of a slave to
04:25it.
04:26But I had a different perspective on it because I relate to him just getting up and walking out.
04:32I think even though many of us want to deny it, we all maybe have – of a certain age,
04:39we all maybe have a subconscious expectation, like a certainty that they will lose.
04:44So when it happens, like, okay, well, I expected that, and let's go, and maybe they'll win the next one.
04:50But there is, I think, for – I think it's just natural, given our lives and our experiences, that there
04:57would be that.
04:58But I thought it was interesting that his young son was really mad about it, and I tend to be
05:05like, you know, shake it off.
05:07They're still up.
05:08Yeah.
05:08But he was not that way.
05:11It's funny.
05:11Do you remember how we left our row after the game?
05:18They're – you know, I don't know.
05:19You had some guys in jerseys on your left, but it was you, me, and then a seven-year-old
05:25kid-ish, seven-year-old-ish kid,
05:27and what I assume was a dad or a guardian, whatever.
05:31And as soon as the goal went in, the Bruins are still, like, piling off the bench to go celebrate
05:36in the corner.
05:39And everyone's standing, of course, and the dad says, we're leaving.
05:44He sort of gestures to me, and I go to let him by just because I'm still sort of –
05:48I wasn't like our manager's son.
05:51I wasn't devastated, but I was still sort of processing.
05:54Like, oh.
05:56So I poured a lot into this emotionally.
05:58I really wanted to be here for that moment, us to be there for that moment, just share it with
06:03everyone.
06:03It's not something I have on my resume at all as a sports fan.
06:08So I was really eager.
06:09A series winner.
06:10Yeah.
06:11I just really wanted it.
06:12And so –
06:13In overtime.
06:13So I wasn't ready to walk out.
06:15I wasn't ready to start the long procession of just – it felt a little bit like the airplane just
06:19landed.
06:19You know what I mean?
06:20Like, I'm going to start filing out, but really all I'm going to do is stand here.
06:25So I let them by, and when they got to you, you said, well, I'm leaving too.
06:29And I went, like, of course I'm leaving.
06:30What am I going to do?
06:31Stand here and watch the three stars?
06:33I –
06:33But I wasn't ready to move right away.
06:35Got up because my son was outside.
06:38Ah.
06:39And I also had to get to my work bag at guest services before they shut the door.
06:43They told me that might be 15 minutes from the end of the game.
06:45Oh, okay.
06:46So I felt a little bit rushed.
06:47You had some urgency.
06:48Yeah, yeah, yeah.
06:48I am totally the type to sit there.
06:50I am not standing up on the plane when I'm in row 19.
06:53Right.
06:53I'm just totally not doing that.
06:55So I would have been the same as you.
06:57Because there was no place to go, I was able, like you were, to look at it.
07:03And I want to do that.
07:05You know, we were so close to the ice.
07:07Right, right.
07:08Looking at the Boston faces because we were on that side, that was interesting to me.
07:12You know, they won the game.
07:14And you've got a couple of knuckleheads on our side who are just screaming at them.
07:18And they can't, I don't know how to, they don't know how to live their lives without being able to
07:21do that.
07:21So just screaming at the players.
07:23The players don't care.
07:25They never care.
07:26And they're just sort of, you know, hugging and, you know, we won.
07:31And we couldn't go anywhere anyway.
07:32So I'm just sort of standing there watching that.
07:35But that's why I got up.
07:37I felt a little bit.
07:38Right, right.
07:38I got you.
07:39Yeah, yeah.
07:40Well, but, you know, I was there for casparitis.
07:45And I sat there for the whole thing.
07:47I just, I wanted to process, as you put it, every aspect of that.
07:52Hasek leaving right away and just the penguins.
07:56I mean, it hurts just the same.
07:58Yeah.
07:58Whether you do that or not, I think.
08:00Yeah, and I hadn't really, until we got to overtime, my mind did not drift to where we were sitting.
08:10And you talked about this, I think, a little bit yesterday.
08:14Just the view we would have of everything if it had gotten to handshakes.
08:18And I hadn't even thought about that until overtime.
08:21Like, you know, I just wanted the exaltation.
08:24I just wanted the moment where they won is what I was thinking about when, you know, we committed to
08:29go to this game.
08:30And that, but then when overtime, you're like, oh, well, yeah, well, that means you're going to get all of
08:35that.
08:36Like, all of that.
08:37I mean, there's not a ceremony for winning a first-round series.
08:39But still, you're going to get the handshakes.
08:41And so I started thinking about that during overtime and how cool that would be.
08:44And then, of course, we didn't get it.
08:46And so, you know, maybe tonight.
08:49Maybe tonight.
08:50Although I will not be there.
08:52No, nor will I.
08:53In row nine.
08:54The Parker family will be represented, however.
08:57There is a...
08:58Well, yes, I want to talk about that, too.
09:02I woke up this morning to a text from Owen that said,
09:07Jer and Joe, Joe not being Sneaky Joe, but Joe Kelly, the producer of the morning show, are pushing me
09:14to go.
09:14They were.
09:16And I said, are they going with you?
09:21Is anyone going with you if you do this?
09:23He's like, no.
09:24I'm like, all right, well, good luck.
09:26I mean, I don't know how to tell you.
09:27Yeah, and so I knew something was percolating, and so I turned it on when Howard Simon joined the show
09:36at 9 o'clock
09:36and heard this whole thing sort of organically germinate on the show,
09:42where Howard offered to give Owen gas money, and then Jeremy's talking about Venmo,
09:46and the next thing you know, Owen's got all this money to buy tickets and get a hotel
09:50and maybe buy Sabres fans beers in Boston because people just, like, piled money into his Venmo.
09:56And then, like, 20 minutes on the radio, I'm like, my kid's going to the hockey game.
10:00He's got a friend going with him.
10:01Like, what the hell just happened?
10:03What an idea.
10:04It was so great.
10:05I was so proud to hear all that unfold live on the radio when I did.
10:10Yeah, I got home after listening to that and talked to my wife about ways we can use that kind
10:15of model,
10:17advantage we have, that model, to get things.
10:21Right.
10:21You know, like, I'm sort of low on socks right now.
10:24They get mixed up.
10:25Right.
10:25Anybody want to throw a few bucks?
10:28No, I mean, I didn't think it was shameless because of how it was.
10:32It was like, Jeremy, I'll just put your Venmo out there because we want you to go to this game.
10:35We want somebody there.
10:37And so he had backing in more ways than one.
10:40Yeah.
10:40I even told Owen when he first told me, like, they're trying to get me to go,
10:45and it was before the Venmo and Howard, you know, opened his wallet, it happened.
10:50And I even texted my son and, like, you know, I'd throw you some money here, but I'm, you know,
10:56I just went to Tuesday's game.
10:58I don't exactly have a lot of spare laying around here to just throw at hockey for you.
11:03And he's like, oh, no, it's fine.
11:04You spent it on me.
11:05I would.
11:05I spent it on you.
11:07But, yeah, then everybody just came, everybody rallied, and, like, there he goes.
11:12Wow.
11:12I mean, what a story.
11:14Yeah.
11:14It's like, Owen has never been to a hockey game before or something, and the fans are sending him to
11:19his first game.
11:20I don't think he's ever been to a Sabre road game.
11:23Okay.
11:24I know he and I have never been together, I don't think.
11:27I'd like to think I would remember it.
11:30We've always been to lots of hockey games together at all kinds of different levels of hockey,
11:34but I don't think he's ever been to a road game.
11:36So that's cool for him and his friend.
11:40And I just love the impromptu, like, I mean, he scrambled, he got home, usually he gets home around noon.
11:46Like, he hangs out here and does a little work and whatever, putting up videos and stuff.
11:5110, 18, he walks in the door, just barrels up the stairs, shower in five minutes,
11:56got, like, a grocery bag of clothes, and he's out the door, and I'm like, to be 24 years old.
12:01What a beautiful thing.
12:04Like you said, it's a young man's game, that kind of impromptu idea.
12:09Right, right.
12:10So a couple of listeners were like, are you going with him?
12:13And I admit, I tweeted this, I don't know if you saw me tweet this, but while they were hashing
12:18it out,
12:19I was, you know, making coffee and standing there thinking, like, somebody raised the idea of me going,
12:25and then someone says, oh, he's got to work, and Jeremy goes, he doesn't have to work.
12:29And, like, give me a day, bulldoze me into a day off here.
12:32But ultimately, A, I want to be here.
12:36B, that's a 20-year-old's trip.
12:41You do not need grandpa piling into the car for this.
12:45Like, go, go, go.
12:46This is something you should do.
12:48So he's doing it.
12:50And I'm psyched to see how it all turns out for him.
12:53Before the series, especially for anybody listening that's tight, would you have taken 3-2 up?
13:00Yes.
13:01I think I would have.
13:02I think I would.
13:03I mean, you know, you asked me before game three, do you want, would you take a split?
13:07I said, no.
13:08You know, you're better.
13:09Go win two games.
13:11And they did.
13:12But if I had said the same day, 3-2, you would have said yes.
13:16Yes.
13:17Absolutely, I would have.
13:18Because otherwise, the only thing better would have been to sweep them from there 4-1.
13:22Right.
13:23And they almost did.
13:24Yeah.
13:24I mean, these games are just so close.
13:27Not, you know, not just these games, but it is, it's notable.
13:33Like, this division was so competitive all year long, the Atlantic division.
13:37And you've got these two series that, you know, you need, obviously somebody's got to win.
13:43It's game six.
13:44To force a game seven.
13:45But the fact that these series aren't wrapped up shouldn't surprise anyone.
13:50I might have guessed, looking at the whole playoff bracket, eight series, maybe the least likely to end quickly would
13:59have been the two series from the Atlantic division.
14:01It was such a competitive division.
14:03Even though I think Boston was the best possible matchup out of the potential candidates.
14:09I still do.
14:10I do, too.
14:11It still was always going to be close.
14:13I don't think we've been disproven on that.
14:15No, I don't think so either.
14:16Even with Ottawa getting swept.
14:18I mean, I think we were, it was fair to say that.
14:22Yep.
14:23That Boston was the best possible opponent.
14:25But, you know, if they lose, I think, if you don't mind, if they do lose the series now, it's
14:32going to hurt more than I thought it would before it started.
14:37Because I didn't really think about having a 3-1 lead.
14:40Like, the Sabres have all kinds of different new opportunities here, good and bad.
14:46They've never won a series by winning three games on the road.
14:49And that's available tonight.
14:51So they do that.
14:52That's history for the Sabres.
14:54They have the one game seven win.
14:56If they can lose two and then win game seven at home, especially like in overtime on Sunday, if our
15:01hearts can take it, that's history for them.
15:04They haven't really, they haven't done much of that ever.
15:06However, you know, if they blow 3-1 with home ice and know that they would be at home in
15:13the second round, if not also the third, like if Philadelphia comes through, that's going to really hurt.
15:19That takes, that would take, I'm not predicting it, that would take this season from this joy ride to like,
15:25oh my God, I did not expect this season to, you know, torture me.
15:29Yeah, that's why it always, I mean, you know, we're in the talking business and the speculation business, so we
15:35do plenty of it.
15:37Um, but why to me, when, when a series is just starting, you know, or even before game one, uh,
15:44it's like, you know, oh, I'm, I got, I'm on house money.
15:46You know, I don't, well, maybe you feel that way.
15:50I didn't because I think they, they're a contender.
15:53And if you're a contender, there's no such thing as house money.
15:55There's pressure to go win if you're a contending level team.
15:58But if you thought like, you know, I didn't expect this, this is a, you know, bonus round coverage, whatever.
16:05Great.
16:06Once you get into it and you win there twice and you come home up three, one, you got the
16:10chance to close.
16:11Then it, even if you wanted to be level-headed about it, I think it's harder to maintain that once
16:17you have the three, one lead.
16:19Like if you lose three straight, something this team has, I mean, I meant to check the last time they
16:25did it.
16:26Two of them were overtime games and that can still happen here now, but it's not three on three, obviously.
16:31But, you know, this team has not lost, right.
16:35They lost, they lost three in a row in that stretch where, um, just right, right.
16:40Anaheim, Boston, Detroit.
16:43Right.
16:44In March.
16:45And, and were those all regulation?
16:46No.
16:47Two were overtime.
16:47Two were overtime.
16:48That's what I meant.
16:48In Anaheim to end the road trip.
16:50Right.
16:50Here to Boston in overtime and then Detroit beat them.
16:53So, um, anyway, it's just, if you lose three in a row to, to blow this series after being up
16:59three, one, I think no matter how calm and cool and like, ah, no expectations, whatever.
17:05I think it, it, it plays tricks on you.
17:08It gets hard to maintain that when you've blown a lead like that, if it were to come to that.
17:12And I, you know, I'm also not at all predicting that, um, you know, I'm trying, I'm trying to sort
17:17of lean on, you know, last, last week.
17:20They're the better team.
17:21Just go.
17:22I know it's in Boston.
17:23You've been better there.
17:24Go, let's go win a game.
17:25It's probably going to be a game much like game five was, um, I would expect.
17:30I mean, the, the, the, the rarity would be what you got Sunday, which was just, you know, just four
17:35quick punches in the face.
17:36And it's like lights out.
17:37Let's just hang out with our feet on the, you know, feet up on the bottom and all, all afternoon.
17:43That's very rare.
17:44I mean, all these games, these elimination games that have all happened here are all super tight.
17:49I mean, Philly needed overtime in a one goal win for Minnesota last night.
17:54Um, same thing for, um, Carolina for Carolina.
17:58I, uh, yeah, well, no, um, who, somebody else won last night, Anaheim won last night.
18:03That wasn't, that wasn't a one goal.
18:04That wasn't a squeaker at all.
18:05Holy cow.
18:06They just sort of rolled, um, Edmonton.
18:10So it's, it's Carolina.
18:12Every game was tight.
18:13Every game was tight.
18:14Right.
18:15Tampa, Montreal.
18:16Every game's been tight.
18:17This series, the games had, you know, you got that one weird one.
18:20And even, I guess game two was for nothing and then got tighter, but never was really tight, I guess.
18:28So I don't know, maybe the series hasn't, they've had a little of everything, I guess, in this series.
18:34I can't wait.
18:35And if they don't win the night, they're a slight favor to win.
18:39If they don't win the night, then you get Sunday.
18:42And I know that that's not what we want right now, but like to see them win a game seven
18:47and
18:48you can't win them if you're not in them.
18:49So, I mean, my dad taught me that I learned from the master.
18:54You can't win them if you're not in.
18:55So if I, if we lose tonight, then get me to Sunday and I'm not going to worry about momentum
19:01or anything like anybody tells you that has to explain how Boston won Tuesday, but they
19:05were supposed to be dead.
19:06I guess they were not dead.
19:07You know, you'll have the crowd if it comes to that.
19:10But, you know, for Sabres fans sake, hopefully it does not.
19:15We've still got four hours to kill.
19:17Thanks for, you know, thinking of us in, in doing that.
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