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00:00I'll just read from my script, I guess, for lack of a better word for it.
00:06Notes.
00:07CAMP.
00:09All caps.
00:11Three exclamation points.
00:14I don't think you can ever really do two.
00:17And one didn't really get the job done.
00:20I mostly use one.
00:23But if you're going for emphasis, overemphasis, two is not enough.
00:29CAMP!
00:30There, sorry for yelling.
00:31Yeah, that sounds like three exclamation points to me.
00:35Is CAMP in all caps?
00:37Yes.
00:38All right.
00:38Did you say that?
00:39I'm sorry.
00:39I did, I think.
00:40I meant to.
00:41I might have been distracted.
00:43CAMP.
00:43Which is bad.
00:44CAMP!
00:45Stop hating on the jerseys, guys.
00:50Can you imagine if Josh Allen had said he didn't like him?
00:54Is there any world in which Josh Allen would be like,
00:57uh, gray.
00:58I can't, uh, no, I can't imagine.
01:02What a meaningful comment.
01:04Well, what I, what I can imagine, can't, can't, well, because it happened.
01:09Nobody asked him.
01:10He just volunteered that.
01:12So, um, brave.
01:14What I can't imagine is him being asked and him saying, no, I think they're terrible.
01:20Anything.
01:20Or I don't like anything other than positive.
01:22But to just, just unprompted, just feel like, so I'm just going to guess that 80% or more
01:29of the people who hated them now love them.
01:31No, I would not say that.
01:33And it's going to be fine.
01:34Josh Allen doesn't tell us how to feel.
01:37Some percentage of people, probably.
01:4080 might be high.
01:4260.
01:4380 is a slap in the face.
01:4460.
01:45I'm going to go to 60.
01:46Sorry.
01:46He's never going to tell me how to feel about clothes.
01:49Went too big.
01:50Imagine, like, somebody you don't know.
01:52Well, maybe, I should be careful here, because maybe this is what usually happens.
01:56Where you see someone wearing something, someone famous that you like, and then you want to
02:01wear that, or you want it, like, that's kind of the point of marketing and endorsements.
02:07Right.
02:07Is, you know, if he would wear that shirt, then I would want to wear that shirt.
02:11Yeah, I mean, I said many, many times on Monday when we were in the throes of the whole
02:15thing, that once people see him in it, they're going to buy him.
02:20They're going to love it.
02:21You know, I think that looks pretty good.
02:23But it's so pathetic.
02:25Like, if you really think about it, especially if you're, like, twice his age, which I am
02:33more than.
02:33Why would I care at all?
02:35Of course he's going to say he likes them.
02:37Asked or not asked, you know, of course he was going to say that.
02:40You know, didn't he also kind of say, like, I mean, I don't listen to the people.
02:45I don't go online or anything.
02:47I wouldn't know if anybody, I would never know if anybody said anything.
02:51He did try to sort of deflect how much attention you might have perceived he was paying by
02:58the fact that he was scolding everyone about hating them.
03:00Give me a break.
03:01So, anyway.
03:03Be real.
03:04You know, it's the first day, though.
03:05It's the first day.
03:06Maybe that was real from him.
03:07I don't know.
03:08If it is.
03:09Just how embarrassing.
03:11I wouldn't know if anybody, I should be careful because I'm not quoting him.
03:16But if you did, it would sound like this.
03:18I think if you heard him talk about it, it would sound like this.
03:21Well, here we go.
03:24First camp.
03:26First day of practice.
03:28Don't be Carolina.
03:28Carolina, I think so far in training camp, the message, the ideology you want here is
03:38do not.
03:38I don't know how you avoid it.
03:39I just don't want to see the cart ever.
03:42They've had three already.
03:46We found this out last year, right?
03:48Like, the cart, anything can look worse than it ends up being, right?
03:52Hairston looked like maybe it was a devastating season-ending injury, and it was not that.
03:57But the trainer, the locker room is so far away that the cart, you know, the cart doesn't
04:04necessarily symbolize you're done.
04:07I think in a game, it might, but at practice, maybe not.
04:12But anyway, yeah.
04:13It's just a ride.
04:14Right.
04:14Avoid Carolina.
04:16Avoid, I'm so bullish on Cincinnati, I need to know if Shamar Stewart was supposed to matter
04:22for them.
04:22He had kind of a lost rookie year, it felt like.
04:25So, I don't know.
04:26He was on the second team when he got hurt.
04:28I don't know if that's a big deal for them or not.
04:30I mean, he was a first-round pick last year.
04:33So, someone that they could have been counting on.
04:35I don't know.
04:36But that looked gruesome.
04:37I was told not to watch it, so I didn't watch it.
04:40Yeah, I just, I came across someone, I hate this, but you know, whatever, people want information,
04:51a video of it that played automatically that was like, that magnified his leg.
04:58And I'm like, there was no not seeing it as I was, I was like, what is that?
05:01Oh, thanks.
05:04Too late.
05:06Anyway.
05:07Yeah, so.
05:08Yeah, Hairston was the one last year, and he was out until week seven.
05:14He did play the rest of the season out, although, did he get hurt in the playoffs?
05:18He got hurt in the jet.
05:19The jet game wasn't supposed to play in it.
05:21He was on the field late in the jet games and got hurt, is what happened there.
05:27Yes.
05:28So, yeah, it wasn't insignificant, but it wasn't season-ending.
05:31And it felt, at the moment it happened, and like we're talking afterward, like, that could
05:36be bad.
05:37Well, Carolina, for what it's worth, is down a linebacker for the year already.
05:43Scowerton is his name.
05:45They had another injury the next day that might not have been that bad, but there was a cart.
05:49I don't know who that was.
05:51And then there was this rookie receiver today, Chris Brazel, who is going to miss, they say,
05:56eight weeks with a tear in his knee.
06:00So, that's no good.
06:02That's somebody, you know, I can't tell you about linebackers, right?
06:05I don't have the badge.
06:07I'm not qualified.
06:08But, like, rookie wide receivers, thinking about fantasy, like, he's somebody that was
06:12kind of interesting because he goes deep.
06:16And they have Ted McMillan, who's in his second year, and Jalen Coker, who's okay.
06:20And they're trying to, I think I would say, salvage Bryce Young.
06:23But, many bad signs with Carolina.
06:27And, not the least of which is these multiple injuries already, without even having gotten
06:34to the Hall of Fame game yet.
06:35They started early because they play in that game next week.
06:38So, not great.
06:40I think, you know, I wrote down for Sal, like, this is an easy question.
06:45How do you avoid this without just not practicing?
06:50Right.
06:50Is there any way to sort of calculate some sort of insurance against these injuries?
06:57I feel like, in a lifetime of doing this already, and talking about it, I think, yeah, I think
07:06short of not practicing, I don't think there is.
07:08Because, like, they're not in, they're not going, you know, non-contact, there's no pads,
07:13it's, you know, it's as easy as I think you can practice football if you're actually, if
07:19you have, like, the shoes on, you know, like, other than a walkthrough when you might be
07:24in flip-flops, I don't think there's an easier way you can do what they're doing.
07:29It just comes with the territory.
07:31And, you just hope you don't get the crappy hand dealt to you.
07:34For what it's worth, also, they're also performing today.
07:39Like, there's fans out there.
07:40There isn't much of this.
07:41There's less of this every year.
07:43That's right.
07:44And so, you're not just going to, you're not wearing flip-flops today.
07:47Like, today is ceremonial.
07:48Today is, well, it's more than that, but it's also, like, this is the beginning.
07:52And we have a new coach who wants to set a certain precedent for seriousness, right?
07:58I mean, I think that's one thing we've talked about recently quite a few times that's interesting
08:03about Joe Brady is, I think maybe most people would perceive that this is a shift away from
08:11a more regimented, serious, coaching, you know, style.
08:19And maybe it is, but if I were Brady, I might sense that.
08:22I would know better than I do about how true it is.
08:26And I think I would want, maybe it's that thing yesterday with C.J. Gardner-Johnson in the live stream.
08:31Like, maybe it's sort of like, I'm actually in charge here, and you're going to know it.
08:36I'm going to act like it.
08:37And so, I think if I were he, I'd probably want to come off like, I'm really running this.
08:45And yeah, he's 36, but that doesn't change what my job title is, and this is a team with
08:52serious aspirations.
08:54So, I think I would probably want to make that impression.
08:58Whether he did or not, I guess that's just subjective.
09:01Yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't know.
09:02Like, yeah, we didn't, I've not seen, I don't know if they will or won't, you know, send
09:07out his address to the team or part of his address to the team.
09:11You know, he was asked about it.
09:13I watched his whole, I watched everything today.
09:16First day, first day of camp.
09:17Look at you.
09:18I wanted it.
09:19That's how I knew that Josh Allen volunteered this defense of the uniforms.
09:22I watched his entire appearance.
09:24I watched Joe Brady.
09:25I watched Brandon Bean.
09:27And I thought Brady, he has emphasized, this is right from the start consistently, like,
09:34I'm going to be me, right?
09:35Which I think is important.
09:36Like, you got to be, you cannot try to be something you're not to some guy.
09:42Like, you just can't be a different guy to different people.
09:44You got to be consistent.
09:46And I think that's an important thing to know in a job like that.
09:50And he wants us to know that he's aware of that because he says it, you know, pretty
09:56regularly.
09:58But I took him in today, and I don't think it's because he's now the head coach of the
10:03Bills.
10:04Maybe it's because it was 8.30 in the morning or 8 in the morning instead of 5 o'clock
10:08in
10:08the evening or whenever he would do these things during the season.
10:12Yeah, afternoons.
10:13I thought he's got a reputation.
10:15It's in Ty Dunn's piece.
10:16We talked to Ty yesterday.
10:17Like, he's someone who hits the caffeine.
10:21Like, he's a coffee, energy drink guy.
10:24And maybe by 5 o'clock in the afternoon, he's a little frantic.
10:27But I thought he was more, just less, there was less of like, let me tell you everything
10:34at once today.
10:36Good.
10:36I thought he was much more measured and just, you know, I guess sounded more like a head
10:41coach should sound to me.
10:43And I don't know, maybe when he talks at 4 o'clock on Mondays after games, he'll be
10:47wired again because he's, you know, sucking down caffeine all day long.
10:50I don't know.
10:51Okay.
10:52But he seemed, I liked how he came off today at the presser, if you're looking for my
10:58review of that.
10:59I am.
11:01I don't have my own, so I would like yours.
11:04I'll just defer to you on this.
11:05I am here for you.
11:06Yes.
11:07Just don't get hurt, you know?
11:09Right.
11:10And it's a rain, first practice and it's rainy.
11:13Yeah.
11:13Right?
11:14Like that, that could make you nervous.
11:18I mean, he even, I liked him on that.
11:19He sort of, you know, we play in Buffalo, we just got to deal with it and put the ball
11:22down and let's go.
11:25But me, I saw it was raining there this morning, like, oh, geez.
11:29You did not.
11:31You did not.
11:32I was a little worried about footing.
11:33Footing.
11:34Yeah.
11:34Well, they're going to play on grass now.
11:36That's right.
11:38At home anyway.
11:39Yeah, at home.
11:40Which is one of the more, like, I don't have tickets.
11:44I didn't buy tickets to go to the new place.
11:47I've never even seen it yet, you know, from the inside.
11:50But I think maybe the grass field is my favorite, favorite.
11:57The thing about the change that I'm most interested in or excited about, I mean, we're always moving
12:04in the other direction.
12:06The Chiefs are going to play in a dome.
12:08The Browns are building a dome, apparently.
12:10Like, teams, the Bills did not do that.
12:12Aren't the Bears looking to build the dome?
12:14The Bears.
12:14Like, these old school franchises that you might be old enough to remember to envision
12:20them playing in, like, mud.
12:22I mean, the Colts, the Colts have been in a dome for a long time.
12:25But this game that showed up on my screen two mornings ago after I had gone to sleep downstairs
12:31because of the thunderstorms.
12:32So I turn on old football and there it is when I wake up.
12:35They're playing on dirt.
12:36The 75 or 76 Colts in the playoffs.
12:40Like, it's just dirt.
12:41There's no grass at all.
12:42It's just dirt.
12:43And that would just be awful.
12:45Maybe turf was awful, too, in the same era or maybe forever.
12:49But I'm excited.
12:51Like, the Bills in my lifetime have never hosted games on grass.
12:55I mean, that's always been something different.
12:58That was always for the AFC North to enjoy.
13:00Never us.
13:01Or Miami, I guess.
13:03But, you know, I think that's really cool.
13:05I think it's really exciting that they're going to have a grass field.
13:08It's probably mostly like a turf field where it's just so perfect that it's not going to be dirt ever
13:16or mud ever.
13:19It could be puddles.
13:20Yeah.
13:22I'd be surprised if there's puddles.
13:24I don't know.
13:26It remains to be seen.
13:27They're talking a lot about how the design of the stadium will restrict some of the elements.
13:34So we'll see how that holds up.
13:37Because grass in this climate is a, you know, it could be a bold move.
13:43We're going to have dehumidifiers hanging like drones on that wire that they use for cameras over the field.
13:49So any precipitation that comes down will just be sucked up before it even gets to the field.
13:54So no one will get wet.
13:56The field will never get wet.
13:57I don't know if the field will never get wet, but I can't imagine that it's flawed enough that there
14:02will be puddles.
14:03Unless it's like a monsoon or something.
14:05But I like the fact that it's grass.
14:07Yeah, me too.
14:07Me too.
14:08But I'm curious about how that's going to look in December.
14:12I mean, I hope fantastic.
14:14But I'm still curious.
14:16Mm-hmm.
14:16You know, because a lot of these, like Pittsburgh, similar enough climate.
14:20And they also have college football in there too.
14:24But, like, it's a thing every year.
14:26At some point in the year, it's like they've got to reseed the middle because it's getting worn out.
14:30And Pitt played a game on Saturday and it was raining and now it's all torn up and all that
14:35sort of stuff.
14:36Yes.
14:36Like, we don't have a college team to worry about.
14:38So that's one less thing that could impact it.
14:41So hopefully it all just holds up great.
14:42We'll never have any events in there other than Bill's games.
14:45I mean, maybe in the offseason.
14:47But there won't be anything like that.
14:49You're saying it.
14:50Yeah, I don't think there'll be.
14:51Saturdays.
14:51Yeah, right.
14:52In season.
14:53But, I mean, there are concerts, soccer.
14:55Like, I expect there to be soccer.
14:57Yeah.
14:57Oh, cool.
14:58Yeah.
14:59Yeah, I mean, one of the benefits, I think, of the new stadium, the bowl at Rich Stadium was not
15:05big enough to accommodate a soccer field.
15:07But this is.
15:09Good.
15:10Who do we get?
15:10I think.
15:11Do we get, like, a Tottenham Hotspur friendly next summer or something like that?
15:14I mean, the stadium is similar enough, right, design point-wise.
15:18This is about the time of year when those teams come over.
15:21Yeah.
15:21Right.
15:22They're not playing here.
15:22In fact, Liverpool and Wrexham, you know, Wrexham from the TV show, are playing at Yankee Stadium tonight.
15:29Okay.
15:30Exactly.
15:30I saw a promo for that during the last night's Yankee telecast.
15:35I'm, you know, I got my soccer fill with the World Cup.
15:40I'm, you know, ready for the Premier League season.
15:42I like that.
15:43Really, I'm just ready for more video replay rulings.
15:46Oh, sure.
15:46I'm ready for more VAR.
15:48Can't get enough of that.
15:48That's what I want to see more of, is the time between when a goal is scored and when you
15:54can actually know that it will count.
15:57That's what I'm, that's what I've really been missing about Premier League and, you know, all sports, really.
16:02Just that, is that actually going to stand?
16:04Okay, okay.
16:06Well, camp is here.
16:07It's short.
16:09We're one day in already.
16:10In a week or so, we'll be talking about it being over.
16:13Right.
16:14And there'll be the practice out at the stadium and you can see the grass field and the dehumidifiers hanging
16:18from ropes in case it rains, whatever else it is.
16:22I don't think they have those.
16:22This show goes back to the obligatory reference to how the show has never sounded older.
16:27This show goes back to not only Bill's camp at Fredonia, which is now almost 30 years ago.
16:35I mean, they were at Fisher when I lived in Rochester.
16:38So, 98, maybe, thereabouts is when they went there.
16:42Late 90s is when they went there.
16:4399, I think, is, when did Wade take over?
16:4998.
16:5098?
16:50Mm-hmm.
16:51I don't know if it was his first year, but I know he was the head coach when they moved.
16:55Okay.
16:55Yeah, so right there.
16:57Yeah.
16:57I remember, you know, being on that field when Doug Flutie was at camp.
17:02Marcellus Wiley saying something just in passing about the media just, you know, we'll get you Doug Flutie.
17:09Some sarcastic reference to how, like, Flutie was the only player that anybody cared about on that team.
17:15Some reference to that.
17:16I was on the field for that, so that's then.
17:18Yep.
17:19But Niagara, not only Fredonia, but Niagara.
17:22I went to a Bills camp.
17:23I did, too.
17:24I got OJ's autograph and Mark Bramer's at Niagara University.
17:29Others, too, but those are the two I remember.
17:32I got autographs on a pennant.
17:34OJ was not on the team anymore.
17:37So, 79 would have to have been the year, I think, or 80.
17:40They were there for a little while.
17:42In there.
17:42Yeah, yeah.
17:43There was no OJ, but I had a felt Bills pennant, white helmet, red letters, Buffalo Bills, like
17:49a blue background.
17:51I probably still have it, actually, behind the helmet, and, you know, Ferguson signed the
17:57pennant and a few other people.
17:59That was a big thrill.
18:00Yeah, for sure.
18:01And it wasn't, you know, that well-organized.
18:05It would just be like players would just walk over.
18:07Yeah, I can remember, I don't know how old I would have, I couldn't have been more than
18:12maybe eight or nine years old.
18:14And I wasn't, like, the most assertive kid.
18:16I was a big kid, but I wasn't, like, someone who was going to bully my way to the front
18:21or anything.
18:22And I remember being at the fence line and sort of, I don't know, my dad, I don't think
18:31my dad, like, said anything to anybody, but he sort of implored me to, like, be, like,
18:36you're getting pushed out of here.
18:38Like, get in there, basically.
18:39And I did, and I got OJ, and, like, that was good.
18:43That was a thrill.
18:43It really was.
18:45Yeah, it really, really, really was.
18:46Yeah, little notebook, little spiral pocket-sized notebook is what I had, like, one of those,
18:52like, index card-sized spiral notebook, and I still have that somewhere.
18:57Not the whole notebook, but the OJ piece.
19:00My daughter and I went two or three years ago to Fisher, and she was in the right place
19:06at the right time, and maybe I had also said something like your dad did, you know, just
19:12like, don't be shy, right?
19:13Like, that's what everybody is doing right here.
19:15And she got Brandon Bean's autograph on a cup.
19:19She had this white Bill's coffee cup, and he signed it.
19:23And it's sitting on our kitchen, like, the banister, maybe, is the word, behind the sink.
19:30It's, like, sitting on this with some plants and some cookbooks, this white Bill's cup
19:35with Brandon Bean's autograph on it.
19:38And, like, you can't throw it out, it seems.
19:41Something like that, we never use it.
19:43Right.
19:44It's the kind of cup where you could probably take it to a coffee shop, and they would fill
19:48it up with coffee.
19:49Like, they would, you could use it maybe in a shop, in a coffee shop.
19:53But we never use it, and I've just, anytime I think about it, like, we're not going to
19:58toss it, because it's got this autograph on it.
20:01So, you know, it's on a higher level than something without, the autograph changes it.
20:07Otherwise, you know, it could just be thrown out as junk.
20:10Right.
20:10But, no, Brandon Bean.
20:13Right.
20:14No.
20:14That's, yeah.
20:16That's a thing where if and when you ever move again, you'll be like, ah, ah, it goes in
20:23the box.
20:26We're taking it.
20:27There is no plan for this cup that I'm aware of.
20:32There's no, I doubt it's appreciated very much.
20:36It's a coffee cup with Brandon Bean's signature.
20:38I don't think there's really anything happening in this world at all.
20:41It's just sitting there.
20:42Never gets used.
20:43Never gets thrown out.
20:45Not going online.
20:46Not being sold.
20:47I should bring it in here.
20:48She doesn't care.
20:50Basically, she just did it because her friends were doing the same thing.
20:52So, she didn't really want his autograph or anything.
20:55But now, mostly, they have an autograph tent, and there's a line, and, like, you go through
20:58that.
20:59It's not like, you know, you're not reaching over to the dugout at a baseball game trying
21:04to get somebody's attention.
21:06Like, it's very orderly now.
21:07It's not elbowing your way to the front of the line or anything like that.
21:11With a baseball on a fishing line.
21:13Right.
21:14Hanging over the dugout so someone can sign it, and then you pull it.
21:17You reel it in.
21:18No, you're right.
21:19It's not like that.
21:21So, Brady, you know, we've talked about this a lot leading up to today.
21:25Um, Sal yesterday got into the defense a little bit more, as we've been doing some more recently,
21:31because there's so many changes to it.
21:32And Sal will join us at four.
21:35But Brady has got to be the lead story of this, all of this, that here are the Bills for
21:41the
21:41first time in nine years.
21:42Have a new coach.
21:44And as we've talked about him, not that we often get, like, a lot of calls about it.
21:50That'll happen once we get into the season.
21:52But I kind of think that fans are just meh about the idea of Brady.
21:59With due respect to him.
22:00But that, of course, would definitely vary.
22:04And today seems like a good day to, you know, sort of focus on that, among other things.
22:08So, if you want to correct me or weigh in on the subject of the new Bills head coach,
22:13please feel free.
22:14Now's good.
22:14803-0550.
22:16Sal at four.
22:17Also, Paul Hamilton.
22:17He was out there today for the press conferences.
22:20We'll talk to him about that and some Sabres as well.
22:23We haven't talked about the Sabres at all this week.
22:25I watched one of their games last night.
22:28Fun.
22:28Before I fell asleep.
22:29I consciously did it.
22:32They won.
22:34I'll tell you more about it.
22:35Okay.
22:35It was a playoff game.
22:36I'll tell you more about it.
22:38As we, just a little bit of a tease there.
22:41I feel teased.
22:43You're wondering, what could this be?
22:44This was an effective tease.
22:45Because I want to know what game it is.
22:48So, don't tell us.
22:49I will tell you.
22:50And I doubt you've ever seen it.
22:53That's my guess.
22:55803-0550.
22:56Sal at four.
22:57Your calls are welcome.
22:58Mike Schopen, the Bulldog.
22:59First day of Bill's Camp.
23:01This is WGR.
23:02This is WGR.
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