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The Mountbattens and the Making of Modern India is a scholarly based investigation that seeks to investigate one of the most notable episodes of the twentieth century that is the Partition of India, which took place in 1947. This book was written by K. Z. Islam, and edit by Munawar Karim, it is a chronicle of the complex interweaving of ambition, politics and personal relationships that shaped the destiny of the subcontinent.
The book focuses on the role of the last British Viceroy, Lord Louis Mountbatten, and his powerful wife, Edwina, as they steered British colonial India through independence. It looks at controversial choices Mountbatten made and his troubled relationships with Nehru, Jinnah and Gandhi and the heartbreaking Nehru-Edwina correspondence.
This book examines the Simla Scheme, the Radcliffe Boundary Awards and the process of integrating princely states, and in doing so, it shows just how successful the rush-job partition was, as well as how many successes it led to tragedies as millions were displaced and numbers of people killed.
The Mountbattens and the Making of Modern India is a powerful book with lively, evocative writing and sharp analysis, which brings a new reflection on the history of partition, its legacy, and the points of ethical ambiguity of leadership at times of crisis. A must for history lovers, scholars and those people who have got attracted by the complex play of power and personality, this book is a necessary addition to the library in case of people who wanted to read about the creation of modern south Asia.
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The Mountbattens and the Making of Modern India is a scholarly based investigation that seeks to investigate one of the most notable episodes of the twentieth century that is the Partition of India, which took place in 1947. This book was written by K. Z. Islam, and edit by Munawar Karim, it is a chronicle of the complex interweaving of ambition, politics and personal relationships that shaped the destiny of the subcontinent.
The book focuses on the role of the last British Viceroy, Lord Louis Mountbatten, and his powerful wife, Edwina, as they steered British colonial India through independence. It looks at controversial choices Mountbatten made and his troubled relationships with Nehru, Jinnah and Gandhi and the heartbreaking Nehru-Edwina correspondence.
This book examines the Simla Scheme, the Radcliffe Boundary Awards and the process of integrating princely states, and in doing so, it shows just how successful the rush-job partition was, as well as how many successes it led to tragedies as millions were displaced and numbers of people killed.
The Mountbattens and the Making of Modern India is a powerful book with lively, evocative writing and sharp analysis, which brings a new reflection on the history of partition, its legacy, and the points of ethical ambiguity of leadership at times of crisis. A must for history lovers, scholars and those people who have got attracted by the complex play of power and personality, this book is a necessary addition to the library in case of people who wanted to read about the creation of modern south Asia.
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00:34Hey guys, it's me, Yaya Diamond
00:36What's up, guys? How you doing?
00:38Listen, okay, so being an editor
00:43That's not something I want to do, all right?
00:45I've never ever thought about editing an entire book
00:48As a matter of fact, somebody came to me and said
00:50Hey, Yaya, can you edit my book?
00:51I was like, no, no, I'm not editing no book
00:54Because I'm going to mess it up
00:55Because I'm going to mess it up, okay?
00:58It's going to be worse off than what it was before it was edited
01:02Because I'm not an editor
01:03But I have an editor, a researcher on the show today
01:07And he's going to be talking about the book that he was presented to edit
01:12And I want to thank you, Mr. Cream, so much for being on the show with us today
01:16You're welcome
01:17Oh my gosh
01:18Okay, so Mr. Cream, when or how did this come about that you edited this particular book?
01:25All right, so here's the background
01:28The author had intended to have it published
01:34But the separate articles were not in a format that would go into a book
01:42But it was lying around
01:45And meanwhile, while he was writing
01:48I provided a huge amount of information for his articles
01:54And so, regrettably, he passed away
01:59Before we got to make a final decision
02:05So I took it upon myself to put the whole thing together
02:09In the form of a book
02:11And had it published
02:13So that's how it came about
02:14So I called myself an editor
02:16It was the nearest thing
02:19That describes my contribution
02:21Wow
02:22Wow, that is beautiful though
02:24I mean, okay
02:25So it wasn't in a book format
02:27And you put it into that book format
02:29Even honoring him
02:31After his passing
02:32By doing what was already in progress
02:36Wow, that's beautiful
02:38Yeah
02:38That is actually
02:39That's absolutely beautiful
02:41So, you know, I wanted
02:42I wanted to go into a series of different questions
02:45Because a lot of people don't know about this book
02:47And those who do
02:48You know, they understand it
02:50Like they're supposed to
02:51But this book is this
02:52Can you share like a pivotal moment
02:54In your career
02:55When you realized the impact of this work
02:57And what it was going to be like
03:01Because if you follow the events
03:06In the Indian subcontinent
03:11Since 1947
03:12When it was partitioned into two countries
03:17It's just a series of wars
03:22Between the former parts of this country
03:26Continuous wars
03:27Hostility
03:28Hatred
03:29And it's getting worse
03:31Yes
03:32And so I think
03:34If someone reads this book
03:37They can maybe understand
03:40What mistakes were made
03:42And by whom
03:43And perhaps if wisdom
03:46Enlightens them
03:48They might back off
03:49And try not to
03:50Solve these problems
03:52By going to war with each other
03:55Tell me about it
03:57Tell me about it
03:58It is getting
03:59You know
04:00And it's so funny
04:00Because a lot of people
04:01Are actually going into their ancestry
04:04Like I found out
04:06That my great
04:07Was it my grandfather
04:08My grandfather was
04:10Scandinavian
04:12African
04:12And Indian
04:14Indian from India
04:16And I was like
04:17You're kidding me
04:18I got Indian in me
04:19From India
04:20No wonder
04:20I mean I love all
04:22Like the Bollywood movies
04:23And all the stuff
04:24And I've always wanted to learn
04:25Like the language
04:26And I'm over there dancing
04:27My husband's looking at me
04:28Like I'm crazy
04:29But I'm like
04:29This is like the best thing ever
04:31So we should all get along
04:34But we don't
04:35We don't
04:37You know
04:38Nuclear
04:38That is really scaring
04:40A lot of people right now
04:41And so how do you envision
04:42The proposed nuclear reactors
04:44In Namia
04:44Addressing the country's
04:46Energy challenges
04:47And the benefits
04:48Do you foresee
04:50For the local community
04:51I mean
04:52Or is it just
04:53A terror threat
04:55Is it something
04:57That we have to look forward to
04:58I think you're talking about
05:01My proposal
05:03To introduce nuclear power
05:06In Namibia
05:08Is that
05:08Yeah
05:08I spent two years
05:11In Namibia
05:12As a visiting scholar
05:13And I got there
05:15For two years
05:16And so while I was there
05:18I got to
05:19Observe the
05:20Situation
05:21I mean
05:22Namibia is
05:23Is a country
05:25You might say
05:26Endowed with
05:27Enormous resources
05:30And so
05:31And it's a very poor country
05:32Very poor country
05:35And the
05:36Nuclear reactor
05:38Comes in
05:39Because
05:41Namibia is
05:42The third
05:42Largest
05:43Exporter of uranium
05:45In the world
05:47First is
05:48Russia
05:49Second is Canada
05:50Third is Namibia
05:53And
05:56There's just
05:57Not enough power
05:58For the population
05:59So
06:00Wow
06:00It's very expensive
06:01Even who have power
06:03They can't afford
06:04To use it
06:06So I meet people
06:07Like they
06:07Cook stew
06:09And they said
06:09We can't afford
06:10To make stew
06:10Because it takes
06:11Two hours to cook
06:12Can't afford it
06:14Wow
06:14And so
06:16Power has to be
06:17Not just
06:18Available
06:19It has to be cheap
06:19So you can use it
06:21Yeah
06:22And the other aspect
06:24I thought
06:26I don't know
06:27If you
06:27Are aware
06:28Of the
06:29What's called
06:30The
06:31The last century's
06:33First genocide
06:34No
06:35No
06:35I'm not
06:35Actually
06:36No
06:36In 1905
06:37When
06:39Was called
06:40Namibia today
06:41Was called
06:42German
06:43Southwest
06:43Africa
06:44Oh
06:45German colony
06:46And so
06:47The Germans
06:48Began to
06:49Organize
06:50The
06:50Inhabitants
06:52In the process
06:52When they
06:54Encountered
06:54Resistance
06:55They simply
06:55Wiped out
06:56Several tribes
06:58Completely wiped out
07:01And so
07:02This is why
07:02It's called
07:03The first
07:03Genocide
07:04Of the
07:0420th
07:051905
07:06March
07:08It is
07:08Before
07:08The nazi party
07:10Before
07:10All this
07:11Ideology
07:12Of racial
07:13Purification
07:14And so
07:15On
07:15Were
07:15Introduced
07:16So
07:17And people
07:18Should know
07:19There's a
07:19Continuous
07:21Link
07:22Between
07:23The
07:24Massacres
07:25In
07:25Namibia
07:27Then
07:27In
07:28Germany
07:29And
07:29Auschwitz
07:30And
07:31Berkenau
07:32And all
07:32The rest
07:32That we
07:33Know about
07:33Wow
07:34And so
07:35Namibia
07:36Has
07:36Taken
07:37This
07:38Into
07:39Legal
07:39Case
07:40For
07:40Reparations
07:42And
07:43I told
07:44Them
07:44You will
07:45Never
07:45Get any
07:45Money
07:45They're
07:46Going
07:46To
07:47Go
07:47On
07:47Forever
07:47And
07:48Only
07:48We are
07:49The
07:49Lawyers
07:50They'll
07:50Make
07:50Money
07:50Right
07:51Yeah
07:51Tell me
07:52About
07:52It
07:52So
07:53What
07:53I
07:53Came up
07:54With
07:54That
07:54Look
07:56The
07:57Issue
07:57Between
07:57Namibia
07:58And
07:59Germany
07:59And
08:01Namibia
08:01Nuclear
08:02Power
08:02So
08:03Why
08:04Do
08:04We
08:04Put
08:04These
08:04Two
08:04Things
08:05Together
08:06So
08:07Let's
08:07Say
08:07Germany
08:08Purchases
08:09Two
08:10Nuclear
08:10Reactors
08:11For
08:12Namibia
08:14And
08:15And
08:15Installs
08:16Them
08:16In
08:16Namibia
08:17And
08:18It
08:18Cost
08:18Maybe
08:19Ten
08:20Billion
08:20Dollars
08:21Let's
08:21Say
08:21Right
08:22Wow
08:22And
08:23While
08:24They're
08:24Constructing
08:25It
08:25Half
08:26The
08:26Contracts
08:28Will
08:28Be
08:28German
08:29Companies
08:29For
08:30This
08:30Construction
08:31Electrical
08:32Work
08:32Software
08:33And
08:33This
08:34And
08:34That
08:34So
08:34Half
08:35The
08:35Money
08:35Will
08:35Go
08:36Back
08:36To
08:36Germany
08:38But
08:39I
08:39Want
08:39To
08:39Call
08:40I
08:40Call
08:41This
08:41Power
08:42Plant
08:42The
08:43Herero
08:44Memorial
08:45Nuclear
08:46Power
08:46Plant
08:47And
08:47Herero
08:47Was
08:48A
08:48Tribe
08:48That
08:48Was
08:48Massacred
08:50So
08:51This
08:51Is
08:51A
08:51Way
08:52To
08:52Remember
08:52What
08:53Happened
08:53And
08:54To
08:54Benefit
08:55People
08:56From
08:57This
08:57Gesture
08:57From
08:59Germany
08:59As
09:00Maybe
09:00An
09:00Indirect
09:02Means
09:03Of
09:08Was
09:08My
09:08Scheme
09:08And
09:09So
09:10I
09:11Wrote
09:11An
09:11Art
09:11In
09:12The
09:12Newspaper
09:12Over
09:13There
09:13It
09:13Was
09:13Published
09:14And
09:14I
09:15Forgot
09:15About
09:15It
09:15These
09:16Things
09:16Are
09:17People
09:17Read
09:17Once
09:18And
09:18That
09:18The
09:19End
09:19Of
09:19It
09:19Yeah
09:20But
09:20Last
09:21Year
09:21There
09:21Was
09:22An
09:22Election
09:22In
09:22Namibia
09:23And
09:23There
09:24Is
09:24A
09:24New
09:24President
09:25And
09:26She
09:26Went
09:27To
09:27Visit
09:28The
09:28Uranium
09:29Mine
09:30West
09:31Coast
09:32And
09:33She
09:33Made
09:33An
09:33Official
09:33Speech
09:34Where
09:35She
09:36Asserted
09:36Namibia
09:37Is
09:38Going
09:38To
09:38Move
09:39To
09:39Nuclear
09:40Power
09:41Wow
09:42So
09:43I
09:43Felt
09:43Good
09:43As
09:43Well
09:43Somebody
09:44Must
09:44Have
09:44Read
09:46This
09:46Thing
09:46And
09:46Filled
09:47Up
09:47Through
09:47The
09:47Bureaucracy
09:48And
09:48So
09:49I
09:50I
09:51I
09:51I
09:52I
09:54I
09:54I
09:55I
09:55I
09:56I
09:56I
09:56I
09:56I
09:56I
09:57I
10:05I
10:05I
10:05I
10:06I
10:06That
10:06That
10:07You
10:07Done
10:08And
10:08Now
10:08Invited
10:09To
10:09Now
10:09You
10:10Know
10:10That
10:10This
10:11Was
10:11Because
10:11Of
10:12What
10:12You
10:12Had
10:12Done
10:13That
10:14Would
10:14Make
10:14The
10:15Entire
10:15Country
10:16Better
10:17Off
10:18Let's
10:19See if
10:19You're
10:19An
10:19Academic
10:20And
10:20We
10:20Live
10:21Our
10:22Lives
10:22In
10:22Books
10:23Once
10:24In
10:24A
10:24While
10:24If
10:24Something
10:25Flowers
10:25Like
10:26A
10:26Seed
10:26Flowering
10:27Okay
10:27This
10:27Is
10:27A
10:28Huge
10:28Bonus
10:29That
10:29You
10:29Don't
10:30Expect
10:30Yeah
10:31You
10:32Don't
10:32Expect
10:32This
10:33So
10:33That's
10:34Wonderful
10:35You know what? I commend you for that because a lot of people should say what they feel and they
10:40should publish what they feel, especially if it's going to help someone else or help an entire country.
10:46And I mean, think about it. Mr. Karim, you have helped an entire country realize that going to nuclear is
10:53what's going to help the people live better lives.
10:55Yeah, it's true. And it's just when we nuclear power will train people who will work in that power plant,
11:06engineers, computer programmers, accountants, businessmen, and they will need homes, schools. So a whole city will grow up.
11:17Yeah. And I've proposed an institute to train these people. And the institute will be set up in Herero land
11:26where the tribes live today.
11:29Wow. Benefit from this scheme. So that's the background. Yeah.
11:34Wow. And also you're kind of into aircraft design. Was it aircraft designs? You put in an application. I'm just
11:43reading it. You are amazing.
11:46I don't know where these things come from. You just sit around and the idea is coming to my head.
11:52Wow.
11:53The thing is also another, it's been around, this idea has been around for 1950s, but no successful, successful vertical
12:06takeoff and landing aircraft.
12:08I would love that. That would be amazing. Does that take off thing?
12:12Yeah. So this is going to be another huge thing. I mean, to give you a spectacular example, Mount Everest
12:21is 29,000 feet above sea level.
12:24Mm-hmm. And no airplane can go there. The air is too thin.
12:29Wow.
12:30Even one gentleman was a Frenchman. He took a small helicopter, removed all the extraneous articles to make it light.
12:40And he took off from a high altitude, and he made it to Mount Everest.
12:46And he just rubbed the skid on the speak and came back down.
12:51But this aircraft can land on Mount Everest.
12:55What?
12:56Think of it. You could buy a tourist ticket and you can go in.
13:01We don't have to climb out Everest anymore, right?
13:05That would be beautiful.
13:07I would probably have to go up with an oxygen mask.
13:10No, you have a cabin, pressurized cabin like an airline.
13:15Yes.
13:16Wow.
13:16When you walk around, you have oxygen.
13:18When you come back, you can have a hot meal.
13:20You can lie flat on your bed, sleep the night.
13:23Next day, go to another peak.
13:25I don't know.
13:26I don't know, Mr. Kareem.
13:27I'm a wuss.
13:29I'm like scared of everything.
13:30Like if my shadow started talking, I think I would die.
13:33But think of it.
13:34You could tell people, I have been to Mount Everest.
13:37Here's my photograph.
13:38That would be bragging rights right there.
13:40That would be like, yo, I went to Everest.
13:46Oh, Mr. Kareem's invention.
13:48Hello.
13:49Yes.
13:50So this aircraft will have huge application in the civilian sector because now you can
13:58have small towns with just a football field as your runway.
14:03And you take off the football field and land in Manhattan.
14:06All right.
14:07That would be beautiful.
14:09So open up small towns to investment because you can bring in investors and they can visit
14:16their factory and whatever it is.
14:18And the Army is interested for very good reasons.
14:22So I'll be giving a talk in May in Tampa where they have a special forces industrial exhibition
14:30and tell them here it is and see what comes of it.
14:35Wow.
14:36Well, I tell you, I see why you're an editor because you have so much in your head and so
14:43many different things in your head that you are a great editor.
14:46I can already tell because, I mean, I got nothing going in my brain right now.
14:53I want my wife to hear all this.
15:01Oh, goodness.
15:03Don't put me on the spot, Mr. Kareem.
15:05Don't do that.
15:06I get no respect.
15:10Oh, my gosh.
15:12Oh, you stop.
15:13Oh, my gosh.
15:14No, but I can tell that, you know, because people who edit have great ideas.
15:21They take the book from one plane to the higher plane.
15:27And for people who, like you, that do editing, they see what's intended and they go for that.
15:37They read between the lines.
15:38And I love that.
15:40I absolutely love that.
15:41So talking about the book, and I want to go ahead and put the book back up because I want
15:44to make sure that people understand that not only are you an amazing person who has possibly
15:50saved an entire country, that's amazing, okay?
15:55And so now it's, you know, the making of modern India, the Mountbatten, right?
16:02And the making of modern India.
16:05And wow.
16:07To me, this is like, this is revolutionary.
16:10If we could just take straight up and go out, because that landing and that takeoff is the
16:16worst thing ever.
16:18So, Mr. Cream, I'm rooting for you, okay?
16:21I'm rooting for you, okay?
16:23But let's go back to the book, you know, highlight the importance of the democratic practices
16:29and decision-making processes and how the historians and the policymakers can, you know, implement
16:36these messages that you have, like, to contemporary geopolitical changes.
16:42Because obviously, this is a problem, not only back in that time, but real bad right now.
16:49That's true.
16:50So, I mentioned these wars and the hostilities because this division took place without the
17:02consent of those who would have to live with the consequences.
17:06That's the biggest problem.
17:10It was just done by force.
17:12Yeah.
17:13Yeah.
17:14And the consequences are really bad.
17:1875 years of, and they're both nuclear powers, think about, and they came to blows just a few
17:26months ago.
17:29It's sad.
17:31It really, truly is sad.
17:33And it's just...
17:34Because if there's going to be a nuclear war, most likely it will be between these two
17:39countries.
17:40Yeah.
17:41Yeah.
17:41And it's sad how many innocent people who are just trying to live their lives,
17:46raise their children and have a good, have a good life, are being caught in the middle
17:51of this.
17:52The people up there, they don't care, yeah.
17:54That's terrible.
17:55That's just horrible.
17:57That's just, that's just horrible.
17:59That's a crime against humanity.
18:02That's a crime against people that just, just want to, you know, terrible.
18:08So anyway, that's, that's the, um, um, I mean, there are many books written on the partition
18:16and of course, uh, there are many, many angles yet to be explored.
18:22Yeah.
18:23Yeah.
18:24For example, I went to the Ford Theater in Washington, DC, where Lincoln was shot and
18:32they took him across the theater to a private home, put him on a bed, um, and his feet were
18:39sticking out when he was so tall.
18:41He died there.
18:42But as you come down the, from the third floor to the ground floor, you'll see it, it's a tree
18:49of books.
18:51And that tree has 15,000 books written about Lincoln, 15,000 books.
19:02Wow.
19:03Wow.
19:03And they're still, you're writing about him, still now.
19:07Yeah.
19:07So history is, uh, you know, it's a continuously revised, uh, topic.
19:16So, and, and the partition is, is just, it's a much, uh, is in that same category.
19:22Just you're writing books, they're interviewing people who are dying, who are dead.
19:27Um, because, uh, and I keep saying that, uh, nobody consulted those who are going to be affected.
19:37They didn't.
19:38And, and I, and I don't appreciate that.
19:40Did not.
19:41They did not.
19:41Just two or three people, unelected, unaccountable, and just went ahead.
19:46And, and through terror, there's something that people don't, uh, talk about.
19:51Through terror, literally terror, massacring defenseless people just to create hostility and, and, and, and fear.
20:02So, I, I don't want to even imagine that, you know, you can't sleep.
20:09You, you have your children and, you, you know, you had nothing to do with this.
20:14This is not your wards.
20:16It's between the heads of these people that were elected or even elected themselves.
20:22If, if there was an election, it would say, no, we don't want partisanship.
20:27That's right.
20:28That's right.
20:29For thousands of years, yes, we have problems, but we know how to take care of this problem.
20:33We don't need to physically separate people and put them in different, uh, different camps or different land.
20:41Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it would be nice if we did have say so, you know, if they did take
20:49their time and actually brought it to the people and let the people decide what they wanted for their country,
20:54because they're not considering the masses of people that they're actually affecting in this.
21:00No respect.
21:01These partitions, oh my gosh.
21:04Go ahead.
21:05I'm sorry.
21:05This is just saying.
21:06It just shows the so-called leader had no respect for people.
21:10Exactly.
21:12Exactly.
21:13What, because this book does bring light to the situation with the partitions, what do you want the reader and
21:19what do you expect the reader to take from this book?
21:22The reader can, we'll see the, the actions of those who made themselves leaders and their cynicism, their backhanded deals.
21:36Uh, their, um, their, um, venal, uh, ambitions, uh, at any cost, uh, at any cost, uh, at any cost.
21:45Mm-mm-mm-mm.
21:46And the ongoing effects of this partition now in modern India, what, what, what's going on?
21:55Well, you can ask, okay, this is how it is.
21:58We cannot undo the past.
22:00So what should we do now?
22:02Mm-hmm.
22:03That's a relevant question.
22:05Yeah.
22:05Yeah.
22:06Okay.
22:07Whatever happened, you cannot undo.
22:09I understand.
22:10But the borders should be opened.
22:13Meaning people with identity cards, you can go across, visit their, their homelands, their relatives and so on.
22:21So that should be allowed.
22:23There's no reason to keep people apart.
22:25And over time, in a hundred years, uh, it will heal these, uh, awful wounds.
22:31Wow.
22:32Well, you know, I don't think most people know that there is a partition there.
22:35And, you know, I know that people were talking, uh, back in the eighties, we, we saw the, the partition
22:41for Germany come down.
22:42So you had, uh, you know, you had the East and you had the West.
22:46And I remember, uh, being on, on the free side because I went to the UK a lot.
22:52And so I wasn't able as a youth, I, my mom wouldn't let me go to the other side.
22:57Um, because there was a possibility that if you go to the other side, you may not be able to
23:01come back over.
23:03Um, so to me, I didn't, I didn't know that there was still a partition in other places that we're
23:12still dealing with.
23:13Yes.
23:14In fact, German partition is a good example where the borders were sealed.
23:18Right.
23:19Yes.
23:20And so that's going on now.
23:22Yes.
23:23And you can see how the wall came down and what the reaction.
23:27Right.
23:28Right.
23:29And, and even right here in Orlando, Florida, there is the piece of that wall that came down.
23:36They have it, they have it behind the restaurant, behind, um, the hard rock.
23:40And it's signed by a lot of people.
23:44My mom actually went to a portion of that wall and signed that wall.
23:48Uh, so there's a lot of history there, but I didn't know.
23:53As of right now, I'm now just finding out that there is another partition.
23:59What can people do?
24:00What can we do?
24:02Besides, obviously get the book and read more about it.
24:05So we become more educated, but what can we do as a human, human population, not anything,
24:13just a human population.
24:14What can we do to bring light to this situation as well?
24:18Well, I would suggest that, uh, we have a campaign to open the borders.
24:24It's like between us and, you know, our neighbor across in the North, that you can just go back
24:31and forth with it just by showing a driver's license.
24:34Exactly.
24:35Something like that.
24:36Yeah.
24:36So.
24:37Wow.
24:38Well, I appreciate you, Mr. Karim, for coming on the show and for sharing not only your ideas
24:45and what you're doing for an entire country.
24:47Congratulations.
24:48And I am looking forward to knowing that this whole nuclear thing is going to be coming back
24:53up online, uh, for the people, for electricity, because to me, that's just, that's, that's like
24:58life-saving, you know, that's life-saving.
25:02I mean, literally like you wouldn't expect this to be happening in today's world.
25:08I'll put a plug for Namibia.
25:10Please go and visit Namibia.
25:12Oh, yes, yes, yes.
25:14How is it over there though?
25:16Oh, think of it.
25:17Well, I live in Rochester where we have 30 days of sunshine in the whole year.
25:24In Namibia, it's 330 days of sunshine every year.
25:27It is just beautiful.
25:29Every morning you get up, the sun is out.
25:32Every morning.
25:33Wow.
25:34That is beautiful.
25:35It's, it, the size of Namibia is twice that of California.
25:41Twice.
25:43It has only 2.8 million people.
25:46Oh, that's beautiful.
25:48It's just, that is gorgeous.
25:50I mean, literally, that's like lots of land.
25:52I mean, people must, people must live.
25:55I mean, you know, vegetation and, and growing your own things.
25:59It's all desert.
26:00Mostly desert.
26:01Mostly desert.
26:02So if you want to go see wildlife, there are nice camps, wildlife resorts.
26:11You can go and spend time.
26:14Yeah.
26:14It's very nice.
26:15Very nice.
26:16Wow.
26:17Wow.
26:17Well, I hope nothing but the best for the people.
26:21And, and, and, and, and, and, is it Nibia?
26:23Namibia.
26:25Namibia.
26:25Namibia.
26:26Oh, that's going to be a tongue twister for me.
26:29The desert falls straight into the sea.
26:32The desert falls straight into the sea.
26:34How is that, Paz?
26:35That's just got to be beautiful.
26:37Yeah.
26:37This is just amazing.
26:39Yeah.
26:39That's just, wow.
26:40You got to go see that.
26:41You got to go see that.
26:42Wow.
26:45The lions who have adapted to the desert.
26:48Imagine.
26:51These little creatures like, like iguanas, they come out at night and they sip the moisture
26:58from the air with their tongue.
27:00There's no water.
27:02Wow.
27:03Amazing.
27:03Yeah.
27:04So that is amazing.
27:05That is amazing.
27:07Well, wow.
27:07Mr. Karim, thank you so much for being on the show.
27:10So I say that this book is available on Amazon and is there any other places where this book
27:16is available?
27:17Barnes and Noble, Amazon, all these different distributors, they, they all have them.
27:23Awesome.
27:25Awesome.
27:26Well, I'm going to go ahead and put the link in the description so people can actually find
27:29it.
27:29It'll be easy for them to find it.
27:31I want to thank you, Mr. Karim.
27:32I wish nothing but the best for you and success on the aviation and as well as your project
27:40to help people in, in, uh, in the country that you, you know, and, and the partition
27:45people, if you want to know more, go ahead and research it because these things are going
27:50on in our world today.
27:51And as you can see, there's a lot more going on that we never expected, but it's coming
27:56out and we should be the human race and, and reach out and try to help each other.
28:01My gosh, thank you, Mr. Karim.
28:03And thank you guys so much for tuning in.
28:04Don't forget to dare to be different, but most of all, don't forget to reach out and
28:08try to change someone else's life today.
28:10And until next time, guys, did we get everything, Mr. Karim?
28:15You can mention the hydroelectric power plant that I proposed.
28:21Oh my gosh, Mr. Karim, you're just amazing.
28:24Put your wife over here.
28:25Where is she?
28:29Wow.
28:30This is, if you, the capacity is, would be 60,000 megawatts.
28:37It's just amazing.
28:39And it's now being built by the Chinese on the Eastern Himalayas, but I had proposed it
28:44way back in the 1980s.
28:47So that has come to fruition also.
28:50Wow.
28:51You just, you're just too cool.
28:53You're just too cool for your own self.
28:55Mr. Karim, I say, I say, thank you.
28:58And, and yes, you can show this video to your wife and, and yeah, I will keep that in there
29:03because you're awesome.
29:04Hello.
29:06Mr. Karim, thank you.
29:08And thank you guys again so much for tuning in.
29:10Don't forget to dare to be different.
29:11Until next time, guys.
29:12Bye.
29:14Bye.
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