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A cocaine boom in the 1990s prompted the deadliest chapter in Liverpool's drug war.
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00:03You
00:31Ah, breakfast?
00:32Ah, yes, please.
00:34You ready?
00:51You ready?
01:00Got my teeth in my head and the teeth in my eyes.
01:04Hello?
01:05It didn't get through.
01:20Sarah!
01:25What happened?
01:26The cold kit, it didn't go through.
01:32What, all of it?
01:33Yeah, all 500 fucking kilos.
01:36Customers found a lot.
01:37For fuck's sake, Stephen.
01:40Be as quick as you can.
01:41Yes.
01:43Don't forget your run bag.
01:44Right.
01:54Okay?
01:55Yeah, go, go, go.
02:13Cut.
02:16Life of an international drug smuggler, Stephen.
02:19Very much.
02:23Some people say a man is made out of mud.
02:27A poor man's made out of muscle and blood.
02:30Muscle and blood and skin and bones.
02:34A mind that's weak and a back that's strong.
02:37You load 16 tons.
02:39What do you get?
02:40Another day older and deeper in debt.
02:43St. Peter, don't you call me, cause I can't go.
02:46I owe my soul to the company store.
03:05Liverpool, today it has a drug culture to rival that of any inner city area in Britain.
03:12Associated gang rivalry and shootings have led to heavy policing there.
03:19Much of the blame for all that can be laid on the burly shoulders of 34-year-old Curtis Warren.
03:26Arrested after a raid on a warehouse, investigators discovered cocaine with a street value of 75 million pounds.
03:35Once known as Interpol's target one, Warren led a gang who for years had flooded Europe with heroin, cocaine, ecstasy
03:42and hashish.
03:44One of his lieutenants, Stephen Mee, has been on the run from Britain since 1993.
03:49After escaping a 22-year drug smuggling sentence.
04:01Certain smells, especially the Colombian coffee that I have, that always, that smell always take me back to a place
04:08in Colombia.
04:12Describe your life.
04:14How do you describe my life?
04:16Yeah.
04:17Comedy of errors, I suppose.
04:23There's been a life of struggle, I suppose, all the way.
04:28It's the same in our poor areas, that if you've not got enough food, what do you do?
04:34For me, that was the beginning, shoplifting in Tesco.
04:38How old were you?
04:39I was about nine, yeah.
04:41Coming up to nine, eight, nine.
04:44My man was, uh, she was always poorly.
04:47She used to send us with a few quid to supermarket.
04:50And God help us if we didn't come back with the food.
04:53We used to have to either steal it or get a bit of an hiding when we got home.
04:58I rubbed my own primary school when I was nine.
05:01I don't know what made me do it, but I took a tin full of money.
05:06And I went to the local shop.
05:08What a big toll we were home with it.
05:10And by the time I got home, everybody knew the school had been robbed and knew it was me.
05:15Not a very glamorous start, is it?
05:16Yes.
05:17You've got to start somewhere, haven't you?
05:24How do you, someone from Newton Heath, get into drug smuggling?
05:28Well, quite a lot of people I knew at the time was smoking cannabis.
05:32So it was a natural thing for me, anyway.
05:35I put a couple of grand together and we decided to go to Holland to buy some cannabis.
05:41£5,000 for a couple of days' work.
05:43That lit up everything in my mind.
05:47It took us less than a week to go back and buy two and do the same again.
05:54Cocaine just seemed like a natural progression at the time.
05:58You don't see it as a drug, you just see it as a commodity.
06:02That's all it was to us.
06:04I know it did all the damage it did and thinking about the time, you're not thinking like that.
06:16Standby, standby, coming out of the premises towards your vehicle.
06:20Attack.
06:22These officers are searching for ecstasy tablets.
06:26They estimate some £15 million worth of illegal tablets has been prevented from reaching the streets.
06:31The legacy, I think, of ecstasy was that it laid the grounds for what became the cocaine market.
06:42Ecstasy got the youth audience used to partaking in an illegal activity.
06:47And once you've breached that barrier, it's then a short step to buying this powder.
06:54I mean, in the 80s, it was just too expensive for more, you know, for normal people, for working class
07:01people.
07:01We had speed, you see, we had amphetamine sulfate.
07:03So what changed?
07:05The quantity, the amount that was coming in.
07:07The price.
07:08And the price.
07:09The price went down.
07:10The more you got, the more easily it's to get hold of, the cheaper it is, more people use it.
07:14Is it fair to say that the cocaine started flooding the city at that point?
07:19Oh, yeah.
07:19Oh, God, yeah.
07:28It was, it was, like, similar to what coming up to when he was late.
07:34Give you that confidence, made you feel good, made you feel like you'd take on anything.
07:42And I liked what it'd done for me.
07:45I liked the way it made me feel.
07:48I started taking it, like, daily.
07:54I'd have a break here in the morning and then me and my mate would go and get some.
08:00So we'd end up, like, on it all the time.
08:07The thing is, if you weren't doing cocaine yourself and you were sitting with a group
08:10of cocaine users, it was quite hilarious, actually, because they'd just start chatting
08:14bubbles.
08:15Just talking shit.
08:16Talking shit, yeah.
08:17We know somebody that went off on one when he was on coke.
08:21He actually picked up one of these to threaten someone.
08:25A fish slice.
08:25A fish slice.
08:29Cocaine, for me, was all about, like, sleep through the day, up all night in nightclubs,
08:34snorting with the lads, telling the balshers to piss off.
08:40You were supercharged and you were like, yeah, whatever, come on.
08:45And it was like, whoa, this is brilliant.
08:54Every minute of the day, a plane touches down.
08:58Unbeknown to the airlines, they're carrying more and more drug smugglers into this country.
09:03The guys who arrived with the explosion of the cocaine trade were simply there to make
09:08their fortune.
09:10Customs officers have targeted a flight from Bogota, Colombia, a country notorious for cocaine
09:15production.
09:17The money that could be made in trafficking cocaine was astronomical.
09:22Inside is 300,000 pounds worth.
09:25And this attracted a whole new breed of drug smugglers.
09:31These guys had a different mentality.
09:34They were hungrier, tougher, much more violent.
09:38With more and more guns available on the street and more and more people apparently prepared
09:42to use them, the fear is that summer in this particular city will be a heated, tense time.
09:48The result was that a lot of the people who'd been involved in cannabis and even ecstasy
09:54trafficking suddenly bailed out because this wasn't their world.
09:59They couldn't compete.
10:27Can I help you ladies?
10:32Dean, hey, nice outfit.
10:35So it was you who raided Barry Manilow's wardrobe?
10:38So he's the grown man in a fluffy tracksuit.
10:41Now listen to chit-chat Boris Becker.
10:43Show me the merchandise.
10:55Monkeys.
10:57Monkeys.
11:01Chimpanzee.
11:08Whoa, whoa, whoa
11:09Calm down, girls
11:11Just the first ever drug deal
11:12Carry on like this
11:13And it'll be your last
11:27I told you it was good, didn't I?
11:29Direct from Columbia
11:31Stephen, my lad
11:32That's game, set, and match
11:34Is that how you do a drug deal, Stephen?
11:38No, there's nothing like how you do a drug deal
11:40You do a drug deal with no guns, no suits
11:44No flashcards, no nothing
11:46As quiet as possible
11:48What about the chit-chat?
11:49No chit-chat at all
11:51Straight to the point and gone
11:55It does feel a bit wrong, to be honest with you
11:58Hmm
12:02The first time I started dealing with cocaine was when I got the opportunity to carry some through customs
12:10I had to travel to Ecuador
12:12People that I knew, new people there
12:15They put 24 kilo in a case
12:17That was all that was in the case, was cocaine
12:21Then at the airport on this side
12:23It was down to just taking the risk
12:27Of getting it through
12:29So you went through customs with
12:3224 kilos of cocaine in the bag and nothing else?
12:35I had a bit of foam around it
12:36Oh, well that makes a difference
12:38Yeah
12:39What do you call that?
12:40It's kamikaze
12:44You either get through or you don't
12:46There's no in between
12:49I was smartly dressed
12:51Just looked like a businessman
12:55As you're going through
12:56You just try not to look at anybody
12:58Just keep walking
13:00Any sort of sniff a dog would
13:02I would imagine pick it up
13:04Even though it was covered in stuff to stop that
13:07What was it covered in?
13:09Mustards, piccolilis
13:10Sorry, what?
13:12Mustard
13:13Piccolili
13:14Piccolili?
13:15Piccolili, yeah
13:20Well I was only like a mule, really
13:23Just taking maximum risk
13:26Well I didn't get caught
13:27I got through with mine
13:28And I got three kilo for my kamikaze
13:32How much did you make on that deal?
13:34Close to 60 for it
13:37Got the money
13:38Got the 60,000 for it
13:39Got back
13:40And even on the way back
13:41We got a phone call off
13:42And wanted more
13:44That's how good it was
13:45It was straight from Colombia
13:49I was making a fortune
13:53HM Customs are now convinced
13:55The drug barons of Colombia
13:56Are targeting Britain
13:58Using neighbouring countries
13:59As loading points
14:00Drug barons are in business
14:02To make money
14:03And so Britain
14:04And the rest of Western Europe
14:06Are very much in the target
14:08Liverpool gangsters
14:10Talk to people in South America
14:11Of course out the middlemen
14:12You just import your own
14:15Someone like Curtis Warren
14:16His rise in the drugs trade
14:17Was sudden and meteoric
14:20And that was because
14:21He managed to forge links
14:23With the cocaine cartel
14:25In Colombia
14:26And then would organise
14:28The transport into the UK
14:29Which allowed him to get it
14:30For the cheapest prices
14:32And as a result of this
14:34He became one of the
14:35Biggest cocaine dealers
14:37In the UK
14:41There was more of it
14:42Than I'd ever known
14:43It just seemed to be like
14:44Everyone was selling coke then
14:46I was talking to the head
14:47Of the drug squad
14:49At the time
14:49That coke was becoming
14:51A real issue
14:52Within the city
14:54And I said
14:55If we don't start
14:56Doing some intervention
14:57There's going to be
14:58Gun battles in the streets
14:59And he just kind of
15:00Looked down at me
15:01And he went
15:02Lin
15:03This is Britain
15:04Not America
15:08And then three months later
15:09And then three months later
15:10Three months later
15:10There was gun battles
15:11On the streets
15:13Police struggling to stop
15:14A vicious drug war
15:16As armed gangs
15:16Fight it out
15:17To control the lucrative
15:18Backstreet drug trade
15:21Local people
15:22Are too terrified
15:23To come forward
15:24With police
15:24Left with no alternative
15:25But to fight force
15:27With force
15:30In Liverpool
15:31Alongside the growth
15:32In cocaine
15:34There was a real explosion
15:35Of violence
15:36Yeah
15:37Were you aware of that?
15:39I was always aware
15:41That it was there
15:41But it's down
15:43At the street level
15:44Like I say
15:45I was always away from it
15:46But
15:47The whole game's
15:49Covered in violence
15:50Isn't it?
15:50It's not
15:52You can't say
15:53Your hands are clean
15:54Out of the violence
15:55Because you didn't
15:56Take part of it
15:58Do you feel culpable?
16:00Yeah
16:01Yeah
16:02I know people
16:03Have suffered
16:04Through what I did
16:06I am responsible
16:07For things that happened
16:12Wherever there's cocaine
16:14There's going to be violence
16:16Whether it's
16:18People committing crime
16:20To get money
16:21To buy cocaine
16:22Or whether
16:23People willing
16:24To go to any lengths
16:26To protect
16:27What they've got
16:30The money involved
16:31Because of the money involved
16:32Yeah
16:37So what were you spending
16:39At the height
16:39In the week
16:40On the coke?
16:44Say a few grand
16:46A few grand a week?
16:47Yeah
16:51It got from
16:52Going out
16:53Enjoying it
16:54To being on my own
16:56In the house
16:58With the telly on mute
17:01And not being too loud
17:04And looking at reflections
17:06In the window
17:07And myself
17:07Thinking there was
17:08Someone outside
17:13That was the charlie scene
17:15Snorting coke off
17:16Samurai swords
17:18Having weapons
17:19And no enemies
17:19That kind of stuff
17:22He's just really
17:23Really paranoid
17:25Could have had a pin drop
17:26Two miles away
17:26You know
17:27That kind of feeling
17:29You know
17:30Shh
17:30Shh
17:31Shh
17:32Do you know
17:32That?
17:33That was in gas
17:34Didn't that?
17:35Are we being
17:36Soxdiff
17:36You know what I mean?
17:38Shh
17:39Shh
17:43Paranoid
17:44You know what I mean?
17:45Thinking the neighbours
17:45Are talking about me
17:46Listening through walls
17:47Getting all surveillance
17:48Equipment
17:49You know what I mean?
17:49You bought surveillance
17:51Equipment
17:51I did yeah
17:52Night vision goggles
17:53And everything
17:59I'd look out
18:00Just little window
18:01And I'd see people
18:02Walking drugs
18:03And getting on with their life
18:04And that was all I wanted
18:05Was to be a part
18:06Of the human race
18:07But I had no love
18:09No family
18:11No friends
18:13Nothing
18:17Here on the roof
18:18Of Latin America
18:19Is the home
18:20Of that so-called
18:21Elegant aristocrat
18:22Of the drugs world
18:23Cocaine
18:26People lose their fortunes
18:28And sometimes their lives
18:29In pursuit of its
18:30Beguiling properties
18:33There's thousands of tons
18:34Of cocaine
18:35In South America
18:36How do you get it
18:38From there to here?
18:40Transport's the key
18:42This Belgian lad
18:44Was moving stuff
18:45All over the place
18:46And I jumped in
18:48With a 40 kilo
18:49One for him
18:50From Curacao
18:52And he
18:53Started asking about
18:55For couriers
18:56To pick up
18:59In Curacao
19:00And he got some
19:02Curriers interested in it
19:04But there was
19:04Undercover police
19:06And that's when
19:07We got caught
19:08For the 6.3 kilo
19:10And 40 kilo
19:11Of cannabis
19:12I got arrested
19:15And went to
19:16Risley
19:16On remand
19:26The trial was
19:27Four or five months
19:32Every day I'd go to court
19:34Handcuffed to the same guy
19:38Same guy
19:38On the trial
19:39With me
19:46We were found guilty
19:47And I knew
19:47I was looking
19:48At a long stretch
19:4922 years
19:50My barrister
19:50Told me
19:54That's when
19:54I decided
19:55I had to escape
20:01So me and my mate
20:02Made a plan
20:04We would escape
20:05During transit
20:05On the day
20:06Of the sentencing
20:11Only on that day
20:12For the first time ever
20:13I'm not handcuffed to him
20:21But some totally new guy
20:36Obviously my mind
20:37Is racing now
20:40Have I been found out
20:45And I thought
20:47Ah fuck it
20:49Something's gonna happen
20:50In a minute
21:11Oh my god
21:13Get your heads down
21:14Don't we fucking move
21:34Cut
21:35Cut
21:39What the fuck
21:40That's not what happened
21:43It said armed escape
21:47It's not what happened
21:48Mate
21:50This is what happens
22:06Nobody fucking move
22:23What the fuck
22:25Cut
22:28That's what happened
22:29So how come it says
22:30Armed escape
22:31On your record
22:32Can you tell me
22:47So I'm on the run
22:49For a very serious crime
22:51I've got 22 years
22:53In my absence
22:55And I've got to start
22:56Earning money
22:58I've got a private plane
23:00Over to Holland
23:03Got off the plane there
23:04And went to a flat
23:06Right in the centre
23:07Of Amsterdam
23:10And it was a few months
23:11Before I made contact
23:12Again with Curtis
23:16I've met Curtis Warren
23:17While I was in prison
23:18He was there
23:19Waiting for his trial
23:20To go ahead
23:22What was he on trial
23:23For
23:24Cocaine
23:24500 kilos
23:25Of cocaine
23:26Importation
23:29When customs men
23:30Torched open
23:31These lead drums
23:32They found nearly
23:33A tonne of high grade
23:34Cocaine
23:35In concealed compartments
23:38Before his arrest
23:39Warren was referred to
23:40By Interpol
23:41As Target One
23:42It's claimed
23:43He was dealing
23:44In every type
23:44Of illegal drug
23:45From all round
23:46The world
23:47When I met Curtis
23:48For the first time
23:49He was just
23:50Another prisoner to me
23:51Once I started
23:52Talking to him
23:53He realised
23:53That he'd done
23:54More or less
23:56In the drug game
23:57What I was doing
23:58Been to the same places
23:59I'd been to
24:01And me and him
24:02Got on quite well
24:04I used to be able
24:05To get Curtis
24:06Out onto the wing
24:07For a few hours
24:08Or I could go
24:09In his cell
24:10And play chess
24:11Or have a chat
24:14And then
24:15Later on
24:15When I'd already escaped
24:16Not too sure
24:17About what happened
24:18But his trial
24:20Collapsed completely
24:22Newspaper reports
24:23Have claimed
24:23The problem
24:24Was a lack
24:24Of coordination
24:25Between the police
24:26And customs
24:26And excise
24:28And then all of a sudden
24:29He was out
24:31Made contact with him
24:32And er
24:34Started up with him
24:38We started doing
24:39What we did
24:40So mostly into Europe
24:43I found I moved up
24:44Quite a few steps
24:44On the ladder
24:46With bigger deals
24:47And bigger transactions
24:48And possibilities
24:50There's always possibilities
24:51As well with Curtis
24:53You can go to bed broke
24:54And wake up a millionaire
24:55Because a ship
24:56Would come in
24:58If it's coming in
24:59A container
24:59A transport company
25:01Will come and pick it up
25:02And you get it delivered
25:03To your premises
25:05People used to come over
25:06And pay fortunes
25:08In suitcases
25:09And one bloke came over
25:10And he had
25:111.6
25:12I think it was
25:12A million
25:15In fivers and tenors
25:17And twenties
25:20It took days
25:21To count it
25:23It's when you
25:24When you see it
25:25All in one place
25:26It's er
25:28That's when I suppose
25:29You get the feeling
25:29That you're getting somewhere
25:34It's just international business
25:36Moving tens of millions
25:38Of pounds
25:38Of her stuff about
25:40And the stuff
25:41Was cocaine
25:42When you
25:43You take away
25:44All the goods
25:45And the bads
25:45And the evil
25:46And all that
25:47It's just
25:47A product isn't it
25:48It's taking it
25:49From one point
25:49To another
25:50That's how we seen it
25:52At the time
25:58We all believe in good
26:02But what's the opposite
26:03Of that
26:05Evil
26:06Yeah
26:12And I think
26:16You know
26:17If there is a devil
26:20I really believe
26:21That he has a crack pipe
26:23In his head
26:28Five and a half kilos
26:29Of freshly produced
26:30Highly addictive
26:31Crack cocaine
26:32With its cheaper street value
26:34And high addiction rates
26:35Cracks identified
26:36As the drug
26:37Of the 90s
26:40Crack cocaine
26:41Was the game changer
26:43For me
26:43You know
26:44Using crack
26:45It was like
26:45Falling off a cliff
26:48It smashed me
26:49At pieces
26:51In this
26:52In this
26:53I rise block
26:54Here
26:55I used to smoke crack
26:57I used to smoke crack in there
26:59It was a 24-7
27:01Open crack house
27:03I used to come here a lot
27:10What I found
27:11When I've been using drugs
27:12Is I hit a rock bottom
27:13And I get a shovel
27:14And start digging
27:15And finding a new one
27:19And that's what it
27:20Was like taking crack
27:25It's like having
27:26Twenty lines
27:27At once
27:28But lasts
27:30A fraction
27:31At a time
27:36Crack cocaine
27:37Is very very
27:38Moorish
27:39So
27:40You need more
27:40And more money
27:42And then
27:43You're committing
27:43More and more crimes
27:44And the desperation level
27:46Goes higher
27:48So your moral compass
27:51Goes to cash converters
27:55Went from buying it
27:56To making it
28:01Put it in a spoon
28:05Put it under a flame
28:09Goes yellow on top
28:11That's how easy it is
28:18If you turn one gram
28:20Into ten rocks
28:21How long would that last?
28:23It would be me and me
28:24So not long
28:25Half an hour
28:26Half an hour?
28:27Yeah
28:29Half an hour
28:32And then we'd be
28:32Buying more coke
28:37An heroin addict
28:38Might go and buy heroin
28:39Twice
28:39Three times a day
28:40Tops
28:41Whereas a crack cocaine user
28:44Might go fifteen times a day
28:48So there's more money involved
28:50And then the competition
28:51Between the dealers as well
28:53So the violence
28:55Associated
28:56With a drug use
28:58It just
29:00You know
29:01It went off the scale
29:03Five people have been shot
29:05In just two incidents
29:06Scores are settled
29:07In full scale gun battles
29:10With police in danger
29:12Of losing control
29:13High profile armed officers
29:15Have now been sent
29:16Onto the streets
29:17Of Toxteth
29:20Operation Crayfish
29:21Began when the
29:23First prosecution
29:24Against Curtis Warren
29:25Had collapsed
29:28Customs met
29:29Senior police officers
29:30To form a joint team
29:33Tasked with
29:35Attacking the top level
29:37Of Merseyside drug
29:39Importation
29:40And distribution
29:47Curtis Warren
29:48And co
29:49Had assumed
29:50That they were
29:51Safe from
29:52Phone taps
29:53In Holland
29:54That the British
29:55Didn't know where they were
29:55And that nobody
29:57Would be tapping
29:57Their phones over there
29:59But investigators
30:00Had identified
30:01That Warren
30:02Was in
30:02The Netherlands
30:03They informed the Dutch
30:06And they asked the Dutch
30:07If they would be prepared
30:08To commence a target
30:10Operation against Warren
30:12They agreed
30:14And got the authorisation
30:15To tap their telephones
30:21The Dutch thought
30:22That they were listening
30:23To a foreign language
30:26It certainly wasn't Dutch
30:27And it certainly wasn't English
30:29In their mind
30:32Just to listen to a scouser
30:34I mean I have difficulty
30:35Listening to a scouser
30:36And so they heard
30:39A conversation
30:39I'll see it
30:40The cafe by us
30:41So they thought
30:43The name of the cafe
30:43Was by us
30:44But it's by us
30:46You know
30:47By near me
30:49You've got the intelligence team
30:51And they spend
30:51Hours and hours
30:53Looking for a cafe
30:54That doesn't exist
30:56Also
30:56They were struggling
30:57Because they couldn't
30:58Understand backslag
30:59What is backslag?
31:01Something that's developed
31:01By school kids
31:02In the yard
31:03And it's basically
31:04Breaking down a word
31:06And you add letters to it
31:07So
31:08My name is Steve
31:09And backslag
31:10It could be
31:10Stagive
31:10Or stabive
31:12Or stayive
31:14How would you say
31:15My name is Steve
31:17And I used to be
31:18In the police force
31:19My nanogame
31:20Is stabive
31:21I was in the
31:22Pallagorce
31:25No
31:26I didn't get that at all
31:28No?
31:28No
31:31They could hear
31:32In conversation
31:33Glabiders
31:34So they thought
31:36That the enterprise
31:37Were going to use
31:38Gliders
31:38To bring the drugs
31:39Into the UK
31:40And it's actually
31:42They're backslanging
31:43Guilders
31:48I think
31:48They were a month
31:49Into
31:50Before they said
31:51Well
31:51Give up
31:52Don't know
31:52What to say
31:54I haven't got a clue
31:57I was at home
31:58I had a
31:59Week's vacation
32:01Decorating the front room
32:02And I had a phone call
32:03To say
32:05On Sunday
32:05You're flying to Holland
32:09And that's
32:09That's the first
32:10I knew about it
32:12I was picked
32:13Because I can speak
32:14Backslash
32:16And I knew
32:18The players
32:20On a daily basis
32:22We were getting
32:22Fresh intelligence
32:23The telephone
32:25Was so active
32:26There was over
32:2714,000 telephone
32:28Conversations
32:29That we listened to
32:31That's a lot
32:32Of telephone
32:33Conversation
32:33And it's not
32:35It's not listening
32:36To a conversation
32:37Like you and I
32:38It's an intense
32:39Conversation
32:41With backslang
32:42With rhyming slang
32:45You know
32:46Your insides
32:47Are tight
32:49There's a knot
32:50In your stomach
32:51And you've got to
32:52Make sure
32:53That you get it right
32:53Because you're
32:54Passing that intelligence
32:55To the team
32:56And they want
32:57To act on it
32:59We didn't know
33:00It was Steve and me
33:01But when you hear
33:02Someone is sent
33:04To Colombia
33:05To meet
33:06The Cali cartel
33:07Now there's not
33:08That many drug dealers
33:09Who do that
33:10When you hear that
33:12You know
33:12You know
33:13That this guy
33:14Is big
33:17Steve and me
33:17Was now
33:19Helping to arrange
33:20What was probably
33:21The biggest cocaine deal
33:22Ever into the UK
33:26Meetings arranged
33:27For me to
33:28To go meet
33:29A bloke called
33:30Lucho
33:31Who was part
33:32Of the Cali cartel
33:33In the middle of
33:34Colombia
33:34That's where
33:35He had his house
33:36It was over
33:38Hundreds of thousands
33:39Of acres
33:39Of land
33:40I flew over it
33:42A few times
33:43When I flew over
33:44It was in the bullring
33:45In the middle
33:46A full size
33:47Professional bullring
33:48Made out of stone
33:50And around it
33:51Was scattered
33:52Twelve houses
33:53Properly extravagant
33:55Ten bedrooms
33:56Same amount of
33:57Bathrooms
33:58Then he took us
33:59Then he took us to the
33:59To the horses
34:00They had
34:01Literally
34:02Hundreds of stables
34:06And he also had
34:07A full size tiger
34:09A full size chimp
34:12The chimp
34:13Was enormous
34:14His head was bigger
34:15Than mine
34:18The chimp
34:18Took a liking to me
34:20Instantly
34:20For some reason
34:22And jumped on me
34:25When you've got
34:25A full size chimp
34:26On your chest
34:28And it's screaming
34:29Its head off at you
34:31I was absolutely terrified
34:34They are terrifying
34:35Them chimps
34:37So no
34:38I was more scared
34:38Of the chimp
34:39Than I was of lucho
34:45One evening
34:46Stephen Mee
34:46Called Curtis Warren
34:48From Columbia
34:48Curtis was watching
34:50A movie
34:51GoldenEye
34:52I think it had
34:53Just come out
34:54In 96
34:56Stephen Mee
34:57Was telling him
34:58That he's met
34:59With the Cali cartel
35:00He said
35:01It's absolutely fantastic
35:03He said
35:04I'm in this big mansion
35:05He says
35:07There's lots of women
35:08He said
35:09There's cocaine everywhere
35:10He said
35:11It's fantastic
35:14Curtis Warren
35:15Really wasn't interested
35:18Okay
35:19Yeah
35:20I'm watching a movie
35:25Did he mention
35:27Anything
35:27About a monkey?
35:32Yeah he did
35:33Yeah he did
35:35He did
35:36Yeah
35:38Now you mentioned it
35:42So Stephen Mee
35:43Talks about
35:44There's
35:45Loads of women
35:46There's lots and lots
35:47Of cocaine everywhere
35:48There's a
35:49There's a stupid monkey
35:50That's getting the shit
35:51Out of me
35:51And then they talk about
35:53They've broken the deal
35:56Half a ton
35:57Half a ton of cocaine
35:59I'm listening
36:00But I'm telling the team
36:01It's on
36:02It's on
36:03The whole team
36:04Are euphoric
36:05To us
36:06It was a massive result
36:07You know
36:08We're listening to a guy
36:10Who's in Colombia
36:11Talking to Curtis Warren
36:13About a drug steal
36:15And masses and masses
36:16With cocaine
36:17You know
36:18It's
36:19It's
36:21You could work
36:22In an interception suite
36:24For 30 years
36:25As a police officer
36:25And probably never hear that
36:32You do lie to yourself
36:33A lot
36:34As a
36:34Drug dealer
36:35The amount of times
36:36I thought
36:37They can't fail
36:41But they always come
36:42They never come
36:43When you've got
36:44Very little
36:48When you've got loads
36:49And they come
36:51In the early hours
36:52Of the morning
36:53The Dutch police
36:53Decided to strike
36:54Curtis Warren's house
36:57Consequently
36:57They recovered
36:58Masses of drugs
36:59Masses of firearms
37:00Grenades
37:01CS gas
37:04And the 400 and odd
37:06Kilos of cocaine
37:07In Rotterdam
37:08Warren and his gang
37:10Were finally arrested
37:11After a raid
37:12On a warehouse
37:12At Rotterdam docks
37:13Investigators discovered
37:15Cocaine
37:15With a street value
37:16Of 75 million pounds
37:18Once known as
37:20Interpol's target one
37:21Warren led a gang
37:22Who for years
37:23Had flooded Europe
37:24With heroin
37:25Cocaine
37:25Ecstasy
37:26And hashish
37:27One of his lieutenants
37:29Stephen Mee
37:30Has been on the run
37:31From Britain
37:31Since 1993
37:33After escaping
37:34A 22 year
37:35Drug smuggling sentence
37:38In Holland
37:39When they come for you
37:39It's not the police
37:40Who come
37:40They're called
37:41The arrest artist squad
37:42And their ex-military
37:45It was done
37:46Within seconds
37:47Really
37:49Blew the windows out
37:51Flass bangs went in
37:52And the stun grenades
37:53Went in
37:54Face downwards
37:55Naked
37:57Being carried
37:58Hands and feet
37:59Across the gravel
38:00Into the back of the car
38:04Devastating obviously
38:05Because when they do come
38:06When you're at that level
38:07You know that
38:08You've gone for
38:09Decades
38:34When they arrested me
38:36I was on a false name
38:38It took them three months
38:39To realise
38:40From my fingerprint
38:41Who I was
39:00Get on the floor
39:01Face down
39:02Put your arms up
39:05Get them out
39:06Move
39:06Move
39:07When they found out
39:08Who I was
39:08The Dutch
39:09Heard from the English police
39:11Had escaped
39:13With apparently
39:14An armed gang
39:14With machine guns
39:16And rocket launchers
39:17What the fuck
39:18That's not what happened
39:21That's why they moved me
39:22To a triple cat
39:23A prison
39:23For seven years
39:48Why have they done this
39:51This is the end result
39:53Of being an international
39:54Drug smuggler
39:55This is how it always ends
39:58Like this
40:00I think I'm an armed
40:01Dangerous escapee
40:02From England
40:05We're on our way
40:06Now to a triple cat
40:07A prison
40:09And after everything else
40:10This is how it really ends
40:14We've now got at least
40:16Eight years
40:16Of closed visits
40:20Strip searches
40:21Every day
40:24And all the time
40:25On your own
40:28And that's it
40:29There's no way out of it
40:31It's the end of the road
40:32This is where you fall off
40:33The end of the planet
40:39And don't come back
40:39For a long time
40:44Fuck
40:50There was a point
40:51When I was in Colombia
40:52And we got on
40:54A big catamaran
40:56I got to use it
40:57For a few months
40:58And that's when
40:59I started
40:59I think
41:02Realising that
41:02This could be the life
41:03For me
41:04Once I've got enough money
41:07I thought I needed
41:08Millions to keep going
41:10And really
41:11I didn't
41:14Should have stopped
41:16Should have stopped
41:16A long long time ago
41:37You become
41:38Like a shadow
41:39In people's lives
41:41You float in and out of it
41:42You're never really part of it
41:45And even now
41:45Because of it
41:47I'm the same
41:48Still
41:50I always feel like
41:51I'm looking in
41:54If you want to be lonely
41:55Be a drug dealer
41:56That's what you'll end up with
41:59A lot of time
42:00On your own
42:29I'm personally
42:30Thanks for listening to you
42:30I hope it'll be
42:49You can't tell a story about Liverpool without talking about crime.
42:54Our take on crime is always going to be very different because we grow up with it.
43:08Our story is unique, we are a unique people, we are different.
43:19We are entrepreneurs in our nature because we're survivors, whether that be from exporting
43:25our cultural heritage to exporting or importing drugs, there's no real difference.
43:30We do what we do, but we're clever as a people and I think that's why we've excelled in the
43:36drugs trade for so long.
43:37Because we have an ingenuity which other people don't and we have a toughness inherent into
43:43us which other people don't as well.
43:46Combine them things is a very powerful force and that's why people don't like to fuck
43:52with us I think.
43:57Some people say a man is made out of mud A poor man's made out of muscle and blood
44:05Muscle and blood and skin and bones A mind that's weak and a back that's strong
44:11You load sixteen tons of water you get Another day older and deeper in depth
44:18I owe my soul to the company store
44:21And I owe my soul.
44:22I owe my soul to the company store
44:23And that's why people don't like all of the money that they're able to live with us.
44:24The company store you can save in your life because they return your life to the company store
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