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The debut of ecstasy in Liverpool spawns a cultural revolution and the emergence of a new breed of criminal.
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00:24Oh, not again, man.
00:35Move your body, old man.
00:43Jimmy.
00:47Hello, lad.
00:49Hey, nosy ass.
00:57Here's what I owe you.
00:59Hang on.
01:01Time to step up, lad.
01:04There's 500 there.
01:06Fucking hell, 500 Gary's?
01:08I can't afford that, mate.
01:10Look, lad, they're on strap.
01:11You can take them and pay me tomorrow, you know.
01:12You're all right.
01:13That's a lot of pills, Jimmy.
01:15If you don't want the graft, you know,
01:16someone else will have it.
01:22All right.
01:25And hey, don't go feeding them to the ducks.
01:28What?
01:28Give them to the bears for nothing.
01:30Oh, yeah.
01:33And, Paul, five grand, you know me and all right.
01:35Don't fuck me about.
01:38Cheeky cunts.
01:41Is that how it would play out, John?
01:43Yeah, for me being a cheeky fucker,
01:45I'd have asked for a lot more than that.
01:48Some people say a man is made out of mud.
01:52A poor man's made out of muscle and blood.
01:56Muscle and blood and skin and bones.
01:59A mind that's weak and a back that's strong.
02:02You load 16 tons, what do you get?
02:06Another day older and deeper in depth.
02:09St. Peter, don't you call me, cause I can go.
02:12I owe my soul to the company store.
02:28What comes up if you Google your name?
02:31Oh, actually, it's at the top here, John Burton, Liverpool, yeah.
02:34Ex-crime boss, fucking juice bomb John.
02:41Where's that nickname come from?
02:43When I was putting that many steroids in me,
02:45it was either one rip or juice bomb John.
02:47See, you're not being funny, but you look at that.
02:50You know what I mean?
02:51It just doesn't even look anything like me.
02:54Growing up, I knew where I was going.
03:01You had school and football.
03:02Or you had heroin, drug dealing or criminality.
03:06And that's the new title.
03:10You were cheeky like growing up.
03:12And no matter what, we'd be out grafting.
03:14Going out doing little burglaries on shops and stuff like that.
03:19You got a few quid to buy a little half ounce of weed then.
03:21We were all young.
03:22That's all we wanted to do was get stoned.
03:25One of my mates used to have a shed.
03:27And we used to sit in the shed getting stones every night.
03:30You'd be sitting in there listening to Dark Side of the Moon
03:32or Pink Floyd the Wall.
03:34And do you know what?
03:34They were great tunes when you were growing up, weren't they?
03:38And we used to have a little hatch in it as well.
03:40You'd get a little knock on the side of the shed.
03:42A little...
03:43What do you want?
03:44Just the fivers, please.
03:51I think on our estate they must have been at least under between like 13, 14 and 15 in the
03:5680s.
03:58Me and my mates used to just all hang around together.
04:01You'd mine cars on the estate when there was a match game.
04:04Mining cars for what?
04:05Stop them getting smashed while they're at the match.
04:07Would it be just stopping you lot from breaking in and stealing them?
04:12Well, if you didn't fucking pay us then, yeah.
04:25There weren't many jobs in Liverpool in the early 80s
04:28and heroin was taking control of the city.
04:31So it was just...
04:32It was basically...
04:33You just had to firm for yourself.
04:39So this was our estate here where we were all sort of brought up.
04:43Did we moved on here in 1977?
04:47Fun, fights, trouble.
04:49I loved where we grew up.
04:55And did heroin hit this side?
04:56Yeah, heroin was terrible on here.
05:02Anyone who went on that stuff, you knew within a couple of months
05:04that their lives would be up the wall.
05:07Nice coat that, mate.
05:12How are you, mate?
05:15Yeah, how are you getting on?
05:17Yeah?
05:18What are you doing with yourself now?
05:19God damn, that's not broken.
05:23Not good, is it?
05:23No, it's fine.
05:25How much are you using now?
05:26Probably about three bags a day.
05:28Do you not want to try and get away from it, though?
05:32John, yeah, of course, of course I do.
05:34You want to really get off it and you want it and I'll help you, mate.
05:37John, thank you.
05:37I'll help you all day long.
05:49All right, mate.
05:51That's just shocked the fucking life out of me.
05:54I feel a bit, I just feel a bit tingin' on me.
05:57Neil was one of my mates growing up.
06:00I didn't even recognise him at first.
06:04How old is he?
06:05Fucking shocked.
06:06Probably the same age as me.
06:08No, he's not.
06:08Yeah.
06:09He's just crazy, honest to God.
06:11Shock me, he has.
06:13Lovely fella, him as well.
06:14Still is.
06:16Of those kids that you used to knock around with, how many of them are dead?
06:20Probably 12.
06:22Shall we get moving, then?
06:3089 is a key year for Liverpool.
06:3389 is the key year.
06:34Because, you know, we had Hillsborough.
06:37The death toll from this afternoon stadium disaster stands at 93.
06:41All Liverpool supporters.
06:45Everybody was affected.
06:46The city was affected.
06:48And after Hillsborough, so many people and so many things changed.
06:55The city had seen such loss.
06:58Loss of jobs.
07:00Then loss of people.
07:02Loss of families.
07:03You know, people went to a football match and never came home.
07:08People wanted to forget.
07:10People wanted to lose themselves in something else.
07:14To not feel pain.
07:17And then this drug popped up.
07:19A small tablet, which created happiness.
07:25I was in America.
07:27We've got the new music seminar.
07:28I was wearing a suit and a young man came up to me and said,
07:31What do you do?
07:33And I said, I'm a DJ.
07:34I play in a club called The State in Liverpool in England.
07:40And he said to me, Do you play house music?
07:42And I said, No, I don't think so.
07:43I actually don't know what house music is.
07:45And he said to me, house music is like a cross between Phyllis Hole and New Order.
07:52Then I went to a record store called Downstairs Records, which was actually upstairs.
07:58First heard a DJ mixing house music.
08:01I realised this is the future.
08:04And then when Ecstasy appeared, it all kind of came together with the music.
08:34As soon as Ecstasy happened, it's like it went from black and white to colour.
08:39suddenly this music turned into another all the dimensions suddenly opened up
08:44they'd never heard sounds like this before wow this record sounds ten times
08:49better than it ever did I went to the statement I was 15 opened up a whole new
08:58fucking world it's just like a melting pot of all these mad people grown men
09:07answer on speaker Shelton Assey having the best time of their lives I've never seen
09:12people like that I've never seen a fella in makeup I've never seen many black men
09:17you know simple as that I was just a kid from Norris Green like oh man I went to
09:22the fucking stage it was just like wow
09:31walk up that corridor and I was like what the fuck's that noise and it just
09:36fucking sounded amazing like I mean
09:42we shared it we shared a fucking pill
09:45I don't know what fucking it be like
09:48it was just rushes and rushes and rushes
09:52I just started dancing next thing you know the fucking house lights are coming on
09:59four hours are just gone and then oh man
10:07immense mate immense
10:15life was so negative until I came through that door mate
10:21I've never felt belonging like I felt when I walked through that fucking door as soon as I walked through
10:29that door I felt like I was at home
10:31I actually felt at ease in this club and I've never felt at ease in this city
10:38the arrival of ecstasy was the catalyst for change
10:43because people wanted just to go out and have a good time
10:46to dance to forget it all
10:47and that allowed them to do it
10:51most of them didn't see themselves as drug users
10:55drug users are then people who stick needles in themselves and die and get AIDS and all that
10:59these were happy shiny teenage kids going out and having the time of their life a lot of fun
11:08but nobody knew what it was and what the potential harms might be
11:12taking a tablet that they made said it's great
11:18we will always see opportunity as a people in Liverpool and ecstasy was an opportunity
11:23ecstasy when there's so many people participating in something
11:29there's money to be made
11:31whenever there's money to be made and if it's a criminal money to be made
11:35that's when it's going to get interesting
11:38and that's what happened with ecstasy
12:05that's what happened with ecstasy
12:07that's what happened with ecstasy
12:15busy as you'd have a field day in here Robbie
12:17you worry too much mate
12:18latest batches ready
12:20gebs just add one
12:32we'll take our thing
12:39feel anything in you?
12:42it's only been 20 minutes
12:43we want to start making proper money we need these to work
12:46that's cost us two and a half grand
12:48it will work
12:48doesn't look like it to me
12:50look I'm going to need your help tonight
12:51listen I'm telling you
12:52sixth time lucky
12:53that's what you said with the last lot knobhead
13:00who are they from?
13:02Jimmy
13:02for fuck's sake lad
13:04well I couldn't say no could I?
13:05I reckon we needed the dough
13:06until we get these pills right
13:08but from Jimmy?
13:08I thought we agreed no more dealing in clubs
13:11how many are even in here?
13:12500
13:13but you'll spin them on tonight
13:14fuck me poorly
13:16what lad?
13:17hey lads can we go raven please?
13:19aye
13:19yes
13:19yes see
13:20I told you they'd work lad
13:22brains my son
13:23I never fucking doubted you
13:24well I am a genius aren't I?
13:26seriously lads
13:26can we go raven
13:27I'm off me fucking barnet
13:34I remember the first time I ever
13:36ever went out to the club
13:38properly to take an E
13:39at a place called Quadrant Park
13:43I've never seen nothing like it in my life
13:45it was just chaotic
13:49probably got to be at least
13:502,000 people in there
13:52there was glow sticks
13:53whistles
13:55the way they were all dancing
13:56sweating
13:57I was thinking
13:57what the fuck's this?
14:01and everyone was just dancing everywhere
14:03hugging you
14:04and you're like
14:05fucking hell
14:07I thought they were all a gang of fucking dickheads
14:09and I think everyone in the world did
14:12and then
14:13you'd have your little half a pill
14:17so you're sitting there
14:18you've got a bottle of water or something in your hand
14:20you'd be like
14:21yeah shit this
14:22and your mates are going
14:23yeah
14:23yeah I think it's shit innit
14:25and then your body would start tingling a little bit
14:27and you'd be going to see your mates
14:29I think I feel this
14:31and because of the music and the beat
14:33you're just sort of feeling it
14:35and then within 20 minutes
14:37you're right up there
14:38it was banging
14:41dancing everywhere like a lunatic
14:43and then you'd probably come round about an hour and a half later
14:46to go and what the fuck was that
14:48here's the other half
14:49bang
14:55the best buzz you'd ever get
15:05it was a love drug
15:07it was weird to get used to at first
15:10because when you grew up in a world
15:11where heroin was bringing misery to Liverpool
15:15ecstasy was bringing happiness
15:18and you're actually seeing
15:20people and culture change
15:32if I had to pick a particular era
15:34best years of my life
15:36it would be what we would say in the rave era
15:39phenomenal
15:40big flared jeans
15:42bright chippy jumpers
15:44more favoured by the Merseyside Select
15:49upmarket shell suit
15:50that's a classic one from 1991
15:53Reebok was massive in Liverpool
15:55they were particularly big at the outdoor raves
15:58but listen
15:59if they bounce into the gaff and something like this
16:02they're getting legged out of town
16:09the quad at first was another level
16:13it was amazing
16:17I walked in
16:17and I couldn't believe what I could see
16:19there was men dancing with each other
16:21you know what I mean
16:21that was unheard of
16:22some of the most violent people
16:25normally in the 80s
16:26were hugging and kissing you
16:28you'd think fucking hell
16:30if you were still taking trips
16:32or whiz
16:33you were a bit of a meth
16:34because you had to have a knee
16:37you were that strong
16:39a whole one of them
16:40you're running around the world backwards
16:43but holy
16:44it's like 40 quid
16:47that's like best part of a barber jacket
16:49or a pair of new Adidas from Wade Smith
16:53so if we had no money
16:54we'd go out and do what we called a Maddie
17:01sorry
17:01we were that desperate on Friday night
17:03if we had no money
17:04we'd go out to Warrington or somewhere
17:06and we'd do a ram raid
17:08we'd just run into a shop
17:09and take a rack of clothes
17:10just to get our money
17:11because you couldn't miss it
17:13you could not go a weekend
17:15if you were skinned
17:16you'd have to do something
17:17it was that good
17:20we had to get out
17:21on a Saturday night
17:23at all costs
17:24or
17:24or
17:27that's unthinkable
17:31I actually found it
17:32a bit frightening
17:33it was so wild
17:35and
17:35it put me off
17:36trying ecstasy
17:38I was just put off
17:39by the price
17:40at first
17:40because I just thought
17:41I'm not paying 25 pounds
17:42for that little thing
17:43and then when I finally had one
17:45I was like
17:45oh my god
17:46I'd pay 50 quid for that
17:51the first time
17:52I took a tablet
17:52as it came on
17:54I had a panic attack
17:55and I truly believed
17:57I was going to die
17:59and I lay down
18:00on the floor
18:00in this nightclub
18:01and I thought to myself
18:02what a squalid death
18:04and then the next thing
18:05it appeared
18:05it just went
18:06bing
18:07and that was it
18:08it's unbelievable
18:16nine times out of ten
18:18everyone who had an E
18:19in them days
18:20I'd tell you
18:20it was probably
18:20one of the best nights
18:21of their life
18:24oh that first night
18:26what point did you think
18:27do you know what
18:27there's money to be made here lad
18:28fucking hell
18:29the next day
18:32all of these young people
18:35you know you could sell
18:37fucking you could sell hundreds in there
18:40so the second time
18:41I went to the quad
18:42that's when I went with
18:43a bag of pills
18:46took 150 between three of us
18:47at 20 pounds a pot
18:4920 pounds each
18:50yeah
18:50that's three grand worth of pills
18:51and what did you pay for them
18:53think about that time
18:55probably about 12 quid
19:00we were into drugs and stuff at the time
19:02so for us it was
19:03fucking hell
19:04look at the money
19:04that could be in this now
19:08in the early days
19:09you'd get 10 years
19:10you'd all have 200 tablets each
19:12and then we'd watch over them
19:13selling them you see
19:14so we'd done the dirty work first
19:16got a reputation for selling goods
19:18ecstasy and stuff like that
19:19and then we had our own punters
19:21out then selling them for us
19:23when you're 18, 19
19:25you're still learning a lot of the trades
19:27and stuff like that
19:27and by the time I was 23, 24
19:30we were fucking smashing it
19:33it's probably like a group of 20 of us
19:34that used to all put our money in
19:36and buy like 10, 20, 30,000 of them
19:39but it was big money
19:41what does money bring?
19:43it brings you coats
19:45it brings you clothes
19:46it brings you footwear
19:47it brings you cars
19:49it brings you nice furniture
19:51in your house
19:51and stuff like that
19:55the concept of a drug dealer
19:57became a culture
19:58it became a lifestyle
20:01in a sense
20:02there was something evangelical
20:03about selling ecstasy
20:06you were doing a good thing for people
20:09if they hadn't had it for the first time
20:10you'd want to turn them on
20:12because this is so good
20:13you're going to enjoy this
20:15I want to do you a favour
20:17but what happened was
20:19that demand outstripped supply
20:21in terms of quality
20:25for the first year
20:26they were reasonably good quality
20:28and then it took off
20:29and when it became more popular
20:31the production of ecstasy
20:33couldn't keep up
20:36with the demand for it
20:39so you started making your own pills
20:41yeah
20:44just talk me through the decision
20:46to start making your own pills
20:49money
20:51money makes the world go round
20:54when you're a scouser
20:55and you come from a council estate
20:56and you're making money
20:57you want to try and capitalise on it
20:59don't you?
21:00so everything we tried to do
21:01was capitalise on it
21:03so for us basically
21:05it was
21:07get a pile of drugs
21:08try and make a bit more out of it
21:10if you have to dance on it
21:11as we'd say
21:12you dance on it
21:14dance on it
21:15means bash it
21:16bash it
21:17yeah
21:18take some out
21:19put some in
21:20and make some more money
21:23increase the quantity
21:24and decrease the quality
21:27but as long as you still get a buzz out of it
21:29or a hitter out of it
21:29then
21:31it's doing its job
21:32innit
21:41you
21:48out of it
22:01and
22:20You're not there?
22:24We've got no more change to eat this.
22:25You're having one?
22:26Nah, not until we've sold them all.
22:29Be careful.
22:30What?
22:46You're having one, haven't you?
22:47Get off your fucking body.
22:49Yeah, yeah, yeah, man.
22:50Get on this.
22:52Really sold the lock.
22:54Yes, people!
22:55Whoa!
23:03That's that way, dickhead!
23:16When you're kids, you'd always talk about having a big car, or you'd always talk about having
23:20a big house, or nice clothes, and blah, blah, blah.
23:25Well, that's all we did as kids, like...
23:31And then, by the time I was 24, I was earning that much money.
23:35I didn't know what to do with it.
23:36I was spending it silly.
23:39Buy trainers, you'll buy trackies, you'll buy a watch, you'll buy a car, you'll buy an house.
23:43And then, before long, your neighbours, your mates, everyone, they see all you driving around in nice cars and that,
23:49and I'll be honest with you, a lot of it becomes jealousy then.
23:59John was one of them.
24:00He was just, like, you know, a flash atty.
24:03Just had a lot of excess cash around him, do you know what I mean?
24:07I always remember him to have along with his, like, his nice, big, extravagant shades on, you know what I
24:11mean?
24:11He's always tanned, and, like, he was always, you know what I mean?
24:13But he looked apart.
24:17I was a, you know, a young teenager, and I probably aspired to the likes of him.
24:22I probably wanted to, like, the big cars, and so XT was, um, a means to an end.
24:28We started to go on to the state, and, um, you know, after going in a few times, he wanted
24:33a doorman.
24:34He said, yeah, take them, there's 10 of them for 70 quid.
24:36Give us 70 quid, you make 100 quid.
24:39So we were making a little bit of money doing that, and then we sourced our own supplier.
24:43So the bouncer has confiscated those from somebody and given them to you to sell?
24:48Yeah, that's what it would have been, yeah.
24:50But how did the bouncer know you were the one to...?
24:52Because at that time, I was just mad, young, angry, and I wouldn't bow his hand to anyone.
24:57You gain respect from being like that, do you know what I mean?
25:02And then I sold the tablet to someone in the state.
25:06I only went, um, 20 quid each for days in the aisle of mine.
25:09And, uh, that was it, my, that was it, my, uh, entrepreneurial side.
25:12I was like, I'm going to the aisle of mine.
25:15I went to the aisle of mine on 33 tablets in my pocket, me and my mate, 16.
25:20We had 33 tablets and a fiver.
25:23We went in, clubbed, within an hour.
25:25We had, like, 600 quid in our pocket.
25:28We'd done that for a number of weeks, um,
25:30just young, naive, stupids, early, just kids.
25:33No one just blah us out, thinking that we were untouchable.
25:36And then, um, we'd run out of XT tablets.
25:41Phone me mum.
25:43Sorry? Your mum?
25:45Me mum.
25:46Mum, do us a favour, if we get something dropped off to you,
25:48will you bring it over for us on the boat?
25:52So she brought 150 tablets over.
25:55She got off the boat, come into the flat where we were.
26:00But what I didn't know was, like, the busiest you're watching to do in this.
26:03It's just all seen on camera, you know what I mean?
26:07Because they'd seen us passing class right up to each other.
26:10We'd done two weeks on me, mum.
26:11Me and me, man.
26:13Saying goodnight to me, woman, in the prison.
26:15I was in the juvenile wing, she was in the adults wing.
26:19Not many people have been to Nick with their mum,
26:21or got their mum Nick.
26:22No, I think I might go in to get us buch of records for that.
26:28By the time 93 came about,
26:31the drug scene had just gone through the fucking roof, mate.
26:36Kids who were going out with 50 pills in the pocket,
26:38in the fucking stage.
26:40These same kids now were going out with fucking thousand,
26:43two thousand pills in the pockets, you know what I mean?
26:46Fucking clearing up.
26:48Walking out with fucking 5,000 in the pocket, made profit.
26:52The business was growing across the board,
26:55bringing a huge amount of people into the city.
26:58Just absolutely a massive amount of travelling
27:01from all over the country.
27:03Liverpool became that destination.
27:06And it just spiralled.
27:08You were getting clubs, which were four nights a week
27:10till 2, 3am in the morning.
27:12You were getting all-nighters once a month in clubs.
27:16The whole mood changed.
27:17The real crime element started to come into it there.
27:23Little gangs of scallies getting onto the factory.
27:26There was loads of out-of-towners in there
27:28that you could rob from.
27:30Take the clothes off if you wanted,
27:32the drugs, the money, whatever.
27:33I mean, there was kids turning up with paracetamols
27:36and selling them to the out-of-towners
27:38who were off the face already.
27:40And one story I always remember,
27:41some kids sold some worm-in-tablets
27:43to some kids from out-of-town.
27:45And when the kids from out-of-town
27:46come back demanding the money,
27:48these kids who'd sold the worm-in-tablets
27:49said, go away, mate, you're baffin' up the wrong tree.
27:55If you got caught selling in the quad,
27:57the bouncers would not let you back in that club
27:59unless you were selling drugs for them.
28:01Because what they used to do
28:02was confiscate drugs off the fuckin' puncers coming in
28:05and then give it to their lads to sell it in the club.
28:07They had to do it because the fuckin' club
28:09was that fuckin' good.
28:11You know, they didn't want to miss out.
28:14Bouncers were off to fuckin' all kinds in clubs.
28:16That's the way it was.
28:17You know, I'm not saying every bouncer was,
28:19but in them days, it was a big business.
28:22It was a massive business.
28:34It wouldn't take no crap off anyone, like.
28:37Even though I'm just little old me,
28:39sweet and innocent,
28:40you know, I can pack a punch.
28:43I can.
28:44If I want to.
28:48I was just this little girl
28:50working on the door type thing.
28:52I loved being classed as a bouncer.
28:57I just, I just loved it.
28:59Loved everything about it.
29:00And there's nothing nasty about me.
29:02Do you know what I mean?
29:04You have to look after yourself
29:05if you're a door woman.
29:06Oh, yeah.
29:07But I never had no fight with girls.
29:09I've had more fights with men
29:10than girls.
29:12Do you know what I mean?
29:19I was there to search the girls
29:22and anyone that came in with anything,
29:24it would go in the box.
29:26Yeah, in the counter.
29:29That'd be quite a popular box.
29:31Yeah, probably, yeah.
29:33I've heard stories that
29:34if you got caught by the bouncer,
29:36the bouncer would take the drugs off you
29:38and say, right, now you're dealing for me
29:40or you leave.
29:41Yeah.
29:42You heard that?
29:42Well, I never heard none of that.
29:45Well, it obviously went on.
29:46I'm not saying it didn't.
29:47Do you know what I mean?
29:48Obviously, there was doorman in there
29:50that did want a snatch of the patch
29:52type of thing.
29:53Snatch of the patch?
29:55Yeah, snatch the patch.
29:56They wanted to snatch the patch.
29:58If people were drug dealing,
30:00the doorman obviously wanted
30:01to take that patch off them.
30:04Everybody wanted to be a part of it.
30:06Everybody wanted to make money.
30:07And they seen that house music
30:10and ecstasy was a way
30:11of making money.
30:14That's when, I think,
30:15for a lot of people,
30:16the shine came off
30:18because of the commercialisation,
30:20because of dodgy tablets.
30:23You had a drug
30:24which brought people together,
30:26which made people be happy.
30:29But then there was a fear
30:31which started to come with it.
30:32And that's when you start
30:34to see people getting hurt.
30:36Ecstasy is the fastest-selling drug
30:38outstripping by far anything else.
30:41Doctors are warning it can have
30:42long-term physical and psychiatric effects,
30:45and it can be lethal.
30:46Suddenly, this wonderful,
30:48huggy-lovey, happy drug
30:50wasn't completely harmless,
30:51wasn't completely risk-free.
30:52There were consequences attached to it,
30:54possibly death.
30:57Researchers say,
30:58during 1990 and 1991,
31:00there were seven deaths
31:01and 17 other cases
31:02of severe poisoning,
31:04all directly connected
31:05with the drug.
31:06They had taken between
31:07one and five tablets of ecstasy,
31:09their body temperature
31:09went up and up,
31:11blood stopped clotting,
31:12they had convulsions,
31:13and they died.
31:16People can get depression,
31:18flashbacks, panic attacks.
31:20It's possible that many people's lives
31:22may be wrecked in the long term
31:24due to taking this drug short term.
31:28By 1995,
31:29the Home Office estimated
31:30one and a half million people
31:32were using ecstasy every weekend.
31:35But the police were very, very slow
31:37to latch onto it
31:39from a law enforcement perspective.
31:41So the sellers had carte blanche.
31:44And when you have an illegal market
31:46that's not being heavily policed,
31:48that's Christmas for the drug dealers.
32:01I don't think it was realised
32:03how prolific ecstasy
32:05is going to become as a drug.
32:12I think we had bigger issues
32:14with other drugs.
32:17And although it was class A then,
32:19they were thinking more on heroin,
32:22the problems with burglaries
32:24in the city and stuff like that.
32:26Ecstasy definitely wasn't a priority then.
32:34Why do you think that was?
32:36I don't think they understood
32:37what ecstasy was as a drug,
32:39what it did to people,
32:40you know,
32:41and the effects it had on people.
32:44It wasn't until they saw
32:46the profits being made from it
32:47and the rival gangs controlling clubs
32:50that they realised
32:51probably the importance
32:54of why these gangs
32:54wanted to take over the clubs,
32:57because they were going to make
32:58a massive profit
32:58using their dealers
33:00to sell the drugs inside.
33:03Ecstasy was essentially
33:04an end product.
33:06You have to see
33:07the whole environment
33:08around it.
33:09So,
33:10where would you use ecstasy?
33:12In a nightclub.
33:13So,
33:13how could you generate money
33:15in a nightclub?
33:16Through a bar,
33:17through an admission,
33:19through security.
33:21A lot of times,
33:22the people who controlled
33:22the door
33:23were the people
33:24who also could
33:25potentially control
33:26the supply of drugs
33:26within the place too.
33:28That's where there was money.
33:29If you could control
33:30the club,
33:31you could control
33:32the door,
33:33you could control
33:33who was selling
33:34the drugs in there,
33:35you could control
33:36everything about it.
33:37The amount of money
33:38you could make
33:39was huge
33:41at that point.
33:43We're not talking
33:44five pound on a pill,
33:45we're talking,
33:46you know,
33:4750, 60, 100,
33:48250,000 pound
33:49a night,
33:50potentially.
33:52Control the door,
33:53control the floor.
33:54Simple as.
34:08Lad,
34:08we know what you've been
34:09doing,
34:09been clocking it
34:10all night.
34:11So I'm going to give you
34:11one chance
34:13who you could
34:14ask them for.
34:16I don't know
34:17what you're on about,
34:17mate.
34:18They're just mine.
34:19The money.
34:20Just me wages.
34:21I got paid today.
34:23Honest.
34:23Do I look like a dickhead?
34:25Do I look like
34:26I've got a fucking
34:27dick on me head?
34:29Think it's fucking funny?
34:31Hey,
34:31think I'm fucking around?
34:34I've got a family, son.
34:38You've let your father down.
34:42You've let your mother down.
34:48You've got any brothers
34:49or sisters?
34:51Yeah.
34:52You've let your brother down.
34:54And you've let your sister down.
34:57So for the last time,
34:59who are you grafting for?
35:00I don't know his name.
35:02But that day
35:03is his money.
35:06Only more of his.
35:12Yeah, fuck off.
35:14There.
35:39I'm sorry, Jimmy.
35:41He took the lot.
35:42He even took me rock boards.
35:44Only bought them yesterday as well.
35:45Fucking twat.
35:48Took your shoes, eh, lad?
35:52Unbelievable.
35:57You don't have to take me home, you know.
35:59I can find me home, why?
36:01Is that him there, lad?
36:02The one with the bald head?
36:05Yeah.
36:06You don't want me to...
36:07Stay there.
36:09I'll sort this, lad.
36:13Hey, Jimmy.
36:14Try and get me rock boards back as well.
36:16My feet are fucking freezing.
36:21You all right, lad?
36:24You take that.
36:25Do you have to, lad?
36:27Him?
36:27Yeah, I'm in.
36:28What's this, Jimmy?
36:30I'll take you off, lad.
36:32Thanks, you can't be fucking grafting in there.
36:34So soon.
36:35Thanks, there's a dope car coming over here now.
36:37Just fucking do one.
36:40Fuck and do one, lad.
36:43Thanks, you'll fucking break fuck off.
36:46No, no, no!
36:57When two men were thrown out of a Liverpool nightclub,
37:00the whole episode was filmed by security cameras.
37:03As James Connolly crashed to the ground,
37:05his friend Darren Delahunty became agitated
37:07and shouted the words,
37:09We'll be back.
37:11I think the concept of door wars
37:14came naturally because that's what would happen
37:16whenever there's that much money involved,
37:19whenever there's egos involved,
37:21whenever there's men involved,
37:23it's always going to be a situation
37:24which will spiral out of control,
37:26and I think that's how it happened.
37:39The nature of people in general,
37:41when you're protected a territory,
37:43it becomes tribal,
37:44and clubs essentially became very tribal.
37:51Good knee.
37:53Good elbow.
37:54Put your hand back up.
37:55In the 80s in Liverpool City Centre,
37:57you could count the amount of nightclubs
37:59which had a late licence on one hand.
38:01You'd need multiple hands by the mid-90s.
38:05It had this exponential growth
38:08because of the market for ecstasy.
38:12And you need a security for the clubs.
38:15So it was natural that they were going to be drawn
38:17from certain areas to criminality.
38:21That's what a lot of the trouble came out of.
38:24Criminals using security firms as a front
38:27to make huge, huge money.
38:31And when you've got egos,
38:33when you've got something to lose,
38:35that's when there's always going to be trouble,
38:37and that's when, you know, conflict arises.
38:44People that were most effective
38:45in this new club environment
38:46were the people who were the hardest
38:48and most violent.
38:50The law-abiding security companies
38:53were finding themselves
38:54increasingly getting squeezed out
38:56by the criminal security companies.
38:58And the criminal security companies
39:00were quite happy to sell this new drug,
39:02Ecstasy, and any other drug that they could.
39:05Dorman actually blocked dealers going in.
39:08And then within a couple of hours,
39:1030 or 40 doormen from another door company
39:14would come round and say,
39:15you're off the store now, lads.
39:16We're doing it.
39:17Our dealer's in.
39:18If they're on a door
39:20and some other door company comes
39:22to take it over,
39:23they've got two choices,
39:24walk away, lose their job,
39:26or fight.
39:29You were going to war every night.
39:31And that's when you saw
39:33an element of militarisation of doormen.
39:36You had doormen wearing them vests,
39:37Kevlar gloves.
39:40You know, with an ad hoc army,
39:43or several of them at one point
39:45in one place at one time,
39:47that's a recipe for disaster.
39:50All of a sudden,
39:51there was something you'd never seen
39:52in these places before,
39:53which was fights,
39:56stabbings, attacks.
39:57It was just chaos.
40:01Everything in the club scene
40:02sort of changed.
40:04You could see it was over.
40:08The genuine feeling of all being as one,
40:12you know,
40:12pulling in the same direction,
40:13do anything for anybody.
40:17It was like the bubble had been burst,
40:19and it was revert to type.
40:22Everybody trying to rob everybody.
40:23Everything becoming about money,
40:25territory.
40:28When it was bad,
40:29fuck me,
40:30it was horrific.
40:32So it's guns and money.
40:33Guns and money.
40:34That's when it turned.
40:38I remember saying it to someone,
40:39this is how it's going to go.
40:41And that was it.
40:42After that,
40:44it was like a roller coaster.
40:46At least three years,
40:48I never slept in the same place,
40:49ever, ever.
40:50I used to have rest on 24 hours a day.
40:53And then it's one thing
40:54people don't talk about,
40:55but it's the fear in that game.
40:57That price you pay
40:58is not worth it at all.
41:00The waking up in the night,
41:01the general fear.
41:06There have been more than 80
41:08serious shootings on Merseyside
41:10in just 18 months.
41:12The violence got completely out of hand.
41:15Five people have been shot
41:16in just two incidents,
41:18escalating violence
41:19as scores are settled
41:20in full-scale gun battles.
41:24Shootings,
41:25stabbings,
41:27fire bombings,
41:29three or four very high profile murders.
41:3235-year-old David Anghi
41:34paid with his life,
41:35shot as he drove through
41:37the notorious Liverpool 8 District
41:38three weeks ago.
41:40You know, for the first time,
41:41we had armed police
41:44as standard in the city.
41:50You know, to put it in the nicest way,
41:51the shit got serious at that point.
41:54And it went to a level
41:56of which it never went back down from.
41:59It only went one way after that.
42:04I've got some amazing memories
42:05that'll never go from me,
42:07but I've got some terrible memories
42:08that'll stick with me
42:09for the rest of my life.
42:11I've seen people getting stabbed,
42:13people getting shot,
42:14and guns were out all the time
42:15and stuff like that.
42:19You've had guns pulled on you?
42:21Yeah, that was a long time ago.
42:23That was a part of my life
42:27I don't really want to talk about,
42:28but I'm here today,
42:29so I'm happy.
42:31Scary, but I'm happy.
42:58The legacy, I think, of ecstasy
43:01is as the opening act, if you like,
43:04for cocaine.
43:06The guys who arrived in Liverpool
43:08with the explosion of the cocaine trade
43:10were ruthless people
43:11who were just out there
43:13to make millions.
43:15People used to come over
43:16and pay fortunes in suitcases.
43:18You could go to bed broke
43:19and wake up a millionaire.
43:21To meet the Cali cartel.
43:23You know this guy is big.
43:26People killing him
43:27and reveling in the misery of others.
43:29If there is a devil,
43:31I really believe that he has
43:32a crack pipe in his head.
43:34Some people say
43:37a man is made out of mud
43:39A poor man's made out of muscle and blood
43:42Muscle and blood and skin and bones
43:45A mind that's weak
43:47and a back that's strong
43:49You load 16 tons
43:50What do you get?
43:52Another day older and deeper in debt
43:55I owe my soul to the company store
43:59You know this person
44:01You know this person
44:01what
44:03do
44:04you get to
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