00:00Hi, it's me, and I forgot how loud Doug keeps his headsets.
00:05Oh, my God.
00:07Kenny, I may not be able to hear out of my right ear.
00:09All right.
00:11Rico just fired Adam Nightingale in the break.
00:13It is breaking news.
00:14He's had enough of MSU hockey.
00:16Rico?
00:17No, I said he probably has another year.
00:19He's got to win.
00:20I'm kidding.
00:21That's Mike.
00:22We have a lot to get to.
00:24This is very exciting because we're going to start where I think we're getting both Michigan
00:29and Michigan State fans together on something.
00:32I can't guarantee it.
00:34I'm just excited about it.
00:36Sounds good on paper.
00:39Idealistic, not realistic, but we're going to try.
00:43Here's my question.
00:45I want to start with Michigan fan because they won, and I'm very excited because I am just
00:52in a commanding position of our bet.
00:55Michigan and Arizona versus the world.
00:58Hi, Duke.
01:00Oh, you hate to see it.
01:02No, you don't.
01:02I definitely do not.
01:04I hate them.
01:05Well, you know what?
01:06Now you see why all season I refer to him as what?
01:10Bad boozer.
01:11Good boozer?
01:12Bad boozer.
01:13And bad boozer.
01:15Bad boozer turned the ball over.
01:16Yikes.
01:17But the Michigan question is this, and we're going to do this for each fan base.
01:21If you're a Michigan fan, is this as magical in your world as your 2023 title run in football?
01:30Because remember, you live in your world where you didn't cheat, so you enjoyed it in real time.
01:36So I'm asking, is this as magical as that, or has the state of this sport taken some of the
01:44joy?
01:45Because we always make the joke about boats and hoes.
01:47Right.
01:48Again, this isn't a team of Wolverines.
01:50It's a team of people that are not going to work here next year.
01:55So that's for Michigan.
01:57Yeah, as I like to say, it's almost like watching that adopted team that you have.
02:01Not the team you grew up, but that team that you just say, you know what?
02:04Since my team is out, I'm going to root for this team, and they're having this magical journey.
02:10But I like the question.
02:11Is it like the 23?
02:12Right.
02:13So are you getting as much joy out of this?
02:15Because you don't get to see guys develop.
02:17You don't get to see the progression of a Blake Corp.
02:21Or his L.O.C.
02:22Ah, we got it.
02:23Okay.
02:23Sorry.
02:24The point, let me stay on task.
02:27I saw the thought bubble.
02:28Do I say it?
02:29Do I say it?
02:30Ah, F it.
02:30I'm saying it.
02:31He's right, you know.
02:33So the question for Michigan fans is all a joy quotient.
02:37The question for state fans is decidedly different, and I'm not letting anyone slither out of this.
02:44You are not allowed to say both.
02:46You're not allowed to say neither.
02:48I think your emotions as a state fan are one of the two.
02:52You are either angry about Michigan's success, and I think the people that are angry, they're starting to, like, make
02:59up slogans.
03:00Well, we're built, not bought.
03:02Yeah, you're also home, you bums.
03:05Oh, I hate Dusty May.
03:07Why?
03:08Because he went belt to ass on you twice?
03:10That's anger.
03:11Okay?
03:12The other emotion is envy.
03:15And make no mistake about it, envy is Dusty May is the Kurt Signetti of college basketball.
03:22His evaluations are better than yours.
03:24His portal hall was better than yours.
03:27And he's got a more modern approach.
03:30And I'm very upfront about it.
03:32I don't, I'm not passionate enough about the sport anymore because the sport's a joke to be angry.
03:37No, I'm envious.
03:39I wish Tom Mizzot would just wake the hell up, get modern, and go.
03:43Yeah, I'm envious.
03:44Of course I am.
03:45Michigan's the hotness right now.
03:47They play an entertaining brand of ball.
03:48They're fun to watch.
03:49And when they get a chance to take your head off, boy, howdy, do they do it?
03:56You know what?
03:57I like to call this Michigan team, they're silent assassins.
04:00Mike, you don't realize that they just hit you with a 15-0 run.
04:05You're like, wait, the score was just tied.
04:07How are we down by 16 points?
04:10Well, and then there's Yaxle over there smiling.
04:13That was me.
04:15Kenny's contribution to basketball.
04:17I understand.
04:18Now, the beauty of it is I was told and invoked by somebody this morning to never lose my passion
04:25because I was done with the state team at 25-6 during that game.
04:31Like, this is just, I'm yelling at the TV.
04:34But to answer your question, Mike, as far as Michigan State goes,
04:36Gotta be one.
04:38I'm more envious of what Michigan is doing.
04:41Okay.
04:44Because I've always been one.
04:46One, I appreciate when a coach does something that nobody else does.
04:50It's the reason why you guys criticize me, but I like small ball.
04:54Like, when you take a rule, when you take a rule and you use it to your advantage,
05:00I'm envious because Dusty May said,
05:02What if we go and get that person at the low end of the draft?
05:08Yes.
05:09And convince them to come play for us rather than be a second rounder in the NBA.
05:15That's right.
05:16Picking up Yaxle Lindenborg was why I'm envious because that wasn't just going out.
05:22Like, Johnson and Mara, those were good pickups.
05:25Godot, good pickup.
05:27Yaxle was a game changer.
05:29Might be the Naismith player of the year.
05:31He was an NBA player, and you convinced him,
05:34Hey, bet on us, and we'll bet on you, and let's see how far this thing can go.
05:38That's why I'm envious of what they have done.
05:41And he's grown. He's 23, 24 years old.
05:43Right. He's a grown man.
05:44And you see, sometimes he just takes over the game,
05:47and it's almost too easy for him.
05:49Yeah, because he's playing against children.
05:51Yes.
05:52He's 24, and he's playing 18-year-olds.
05:55The whole, oh, the mercenaries.
05:57No, no, no.
05:58I don't care about that.
05:59People need to grow up with that.
06:00That whole Spartan angle, that's why they call you little bro.
06:03Stop doing that.
06:03I'm not angry over what they're doing, if anything.
06:06You're jealous. You're envious. You're not.
06:09You learn. What are they doing?
06:10How can we incorporate that into this program?
06:14Who is that guy that we could go get that's probably going to be an NBA pick,
06:19but it's teetering, borderline first, second round.
06:22Come here.
06:23We have $400 million.
06:25We'll play you, and we'll get you.
06:28Help us get to the next level, and we'll help you get to the next level.
06:30Or do what Izzo does.
06:31Get no one who can play in the NBA.
06:33That's a bold strategy.
06:36Bobby Ugi Kabuchi.
06:38Come on, man.
06:40Look, here's the question again.
06:42Both fan bases are invited, and no one is mad at you if you're mad.
06:48You can be the type of Spartan who's pissed.
06:52Shabbat is.
06:53Shabbat's having a mental breakdown.
06:55Because you're looking at it saying, well, I want to see my players develop,
06:58and I want to go on this journey with them.
07:01Well, you're not going to get that with Michigan,
07:02but you may get a title out of it.
07:05I hope not.
07:05Not because it's Michigan, because I don't want to see this man happy across from me.
07:09I get lunch.
07:11I still have my team of Euros.
07:14You do?
07:14Well, you've got two of them now.
07:16Yes.
07:16Which is another strategy, by the way.
07:18Just go to Bosnia and buy a 6'10 kid who's been smoking since he was 12 years old
07:23and bring him over.
07:24Is your last name Vich?
07:26Sold.
07:27But I want to just ask, if you're a Spartan about Michigan,
07:31are you angry at Michigan's success or are you envious?
07:34Got to pick one.
07:35If you're a Michigan fan, give me the joy quotient.
07:39The state of the sport is what it is.
07:41And look, I want to juxtapose it.
07:43They show shots of the crowd, and you get the maniacs,
07:46blood-curdling screams and yelling, and people are into it.
07:49And you have to be to pay the prices to go to these games.
07:52Right.
07:53Maybe that person feels this is every bit what 23 was.
07:58But there's another side of it, which is you still love your team.
08:01You'll still wear your hat, or maybe you dress like a stick of butter like John.
08:05But you're not quite as passionate.
08:08See, I think it is.
08:10And I don't want to speak for Michigan fans.
08:12Lord knows I can't do that.
08:13But how dare you?
08:16I'm the voice of Ann Arbor.
08:18If I had to pick between what the Michigan fans would say,
08:22it still would be 2023 football.
08:26Okay.
08:26Because football still means a lot more in Ann Arbor than basketball does.
08:31But didn't that team feel that was the last pre-NIL mania?
08:37Yeah, because for that team, remember, it's like they came back.
08:40They stuck together.
08:42These were homegrown products.
08:43That's why I'm asking them.
08:44You've been on this journey with them.
08:46And shoot it.
08:47Sorry.
08:48I'm trying to be objective and leave that out.
08:50Sorry.
08:51But I think for the basketball team, I think it's fun.
08:54I think it's a fun ride.
08:55Do you think basketball is treated like a plaything?
08:58That it's not?
08:59Well, it is.
09:00I mean, when their own Jalen Rose says on a podcast,
09:03they don't recognize us, and Michigan's not a basketball school.
09:07I think they're mainly embarrassed of you, Jalen.
09:10Hey, that beard is tight.
09:12What did you call it?
09:13Cocoa Bean No. 5?
09:14Cocoa Bean No. 5.
09:16He needs to lay off the dime.
09:17He looks like Black Wayne Newton.
09:19He's got to stop.
09:21He's a blind day.
09:23Dude.
09:25Yeah.
09:26Jalen, no one believes that's real.
09:29We just got to move off of the jet black to, like,
09:34I don't know, black.
09:35You know, just, man, it looks like shoe polish.
09:38You know it's bad.
09:39Ryan Day is like, damn, that's a lot of dye.
09:42Wow.
09:42That might be a little bit too much dye.
09:44I don't know.
09:44Even Ryan Day is appalled.
09:462-4-8-5-3-9-97-97.
09:50Both fan bases.
09:51Just tell me where you're at it.
09:53Yeah, obviously.
09:54I've had Michigan and Arizona since January.
09:58I'm thrilled.
09:59You want Duke?
10:00Buddy.
10:01Duke.
10:02Why didn't they just hold the ball?
10:05There are so many different things.
10:07Like, why did you use your final timeout?
10:10Hey, guys, we're up to, we don't have to cross half court.
10:15It's 10 seconds.
10:17So, let's just hold it.
10:18Make them foul us.
10:20Put your best five free throw shooter,
10:22because the funniest thing was a Saar.
10:25Saar on the court.
10:26He shoots 54%.
10:27He got the ball and was like, nope.
10:30He couldn't get rid of that ball.
10:31He threw it like it was a live grenade.
10:34Like, there was nobody around him.
10:35But he got it.
10:36He could have held it for a couple of seconds.
10:38Nope.
10:39I don't want to shoot these foul shots.
10:41Not me.
10:42He tossed it to the bad boozer,
10:44and rather than just dribbling or throwing the ball up in the air.
10:49Also, Mullins, dead ringer for Killian Murphy.
10:54Peaky Blinders.
10:55Tell me I'm wrong, Kenny.
10:56Yeah.
10:57Slap one of those Irish taxicab hats on it with a razor blade in it.
11:00The kid, he's a dead ringer for Killian Murphy.
11:02I'm an old man.
11:02I don't even know what a Peaky Blinders is.
11:05I'm sorry.
11:06Oh, my God.
11:08Kenny, it came out like six years ago.
11:10It's not even that old of a show.
11:12Oh, my God.
11:13Killian Murphy, he's a dude from An Oppenheimer.
11:16You think he even knows what that movie is?
11:18I know about it, Oppenheimer.
11:20I haven't watched it, but I know about what it is.
11:21All right.
11:222-4-8-5.
11:22He went to go see it when you had to see that in Barbie that week.
11:25Yeah, I quit.
11:26State fans, anger or envy, you're in a safe space.
11:30Michigan fans, joy quotient.
11:32Does this live up to 23's football season,
11:34or does the state of the sport take a little edge off?
11:37You're still happy, but there's just something missing.
11:41Rico, take him to church, will you please?
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