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The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 4 Episode 9

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00:11so i called you guys here because i feel like we all found out about this shenaya stuff at
00:14separate times if she finds out the other thing she genuinely won't know what is it he hooked up
00:21with jenna and like basically almost had sex with her like a couple weeks ago shut the hell up
00:26jenna is the girl that dakota lied about early on in their relationship he was like texting me all
00:30day this day he came over to your house and he's saying thank you for letting me crash at your
00:34house and he came over that night to my house and spent the night and fucked me so yeah and
00:37on top
00:38of that i have a pickleball tournament shenaya was like pouring her heart out to taylor and then that
00:42same night shenaya goes and sleeps with taylor's baby daddy update me he got back with his life
00:47this is why i can't trust people anybody oh gosh this is so bad if this comes out it's all
00:54good
00:54like i just feel like it's gonna spiral and i also think jacoda wants everything to come out he does
00:58once again i'm caught in the middle between two friends and betrayal going on there i have known
01:04shenaya for nearly a decade truly like a ride or die type of friendship was this a massive lapse in
01:13judgment for her absolutely but at the end of the day even though i don't agree with her i obviously
01:18love
01:19and care for her she's gonna find out there's no way she's not either he's gonna tell her we are
01:23you guys we have your party tomorrow and we're with her how is it not coming out like i think
01:27the truth will always come out and i just feel like if we can possibly cushion her finding out
01:31i think it possibly could be better i think the best person coming from is shenaya for sure
01:35i'm actually scared i am too i'm scared for her she's gonna get eaten up is shenaya going to
01:41center sunday i mean i don't know i didn't invite her because i'm not like would she would that be
01:46the
01:46time to tell taylor it might be the time i think it's a pro to do it while people are
01:51around
01:51because then she won't overreact oh yeah that actually might be a good idea then we can also
01:56explain why we didn't tell her taylor's still in colorado but she's coming home soon so with the
02:01bachelorette coming up macy's center sunday event and the main title shoot to be honest this news
02:06could really shake her up and we have to handle it the right way miranda you need to ask her
02:10if she'll
02:11come and tell her tomorrow well since when she called me this morning she's like i want to tell
02:14taylor i feel like she should know i was like hey i gotta get going because i need to stop
02:17by home
02:18depot and get a bigger shovel so i can get a head start on both of your fucking graves you're
02:21a dead
02:22man both of you you're dead and there's nothing i can do to save you
02:28come ye saints and come ye sinners
02:35alleluia
02:36listen up i'm the one you've been dreaming of i've got everything you could ever want
02:45try me to see i'll bring you to your knees baby you're gonna believe
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04:01it's like I think it's gonna be such a cool experience regardless of the outcome yeah obviously
04:05fingers crossed it's always good and like you'd meet your person but if not it could teach you a
04:10lot of learning lessons too I think it's gonna be something that is gonna change your life after all
04:15everything that you've been through and all the pain and suffering that you've been through I
04:21think that's something that you deserve I I don't know I'm like why do I get this opportunity out
04:26of like any like all the girls that want this like I come with so much baggage like who's gonna
04:31want me
04:32I do feel like a lot of guilt all the time for that just because you come with some baggage
04:37some
04:39you do have like a lot of amazing qualities and someone's gonna see that and they're gonna want
04:43that well look at all the people that follow her like millions of followers don't follow you because
04:49you're this horrible person like you need to give yourself credit when somebody is looking for love
04:56and they're looking for that wife mm-hmm to me I would think that they that's what they're looking
05:01for that quality of a mother yeah and to me you're the best mom there are good guys out there
05:06you're
05:06not all like mister they're not all the bag sometimes you have to go through things and things happen for
05:13a reason for you to end up somewhere much higher mm-hmm yeah I think it's time for you to
05:20choose taylor
05:36do I look exhausted to you yes you look very exhausted I've been rehearsing non-stop with dancing
05:43with the stars and working my ass off and I also have to fly this week to Utah for our
05:49main title
05:49shoot so it's nice that Zach and I get to decompress catch up and spend time together
05:55that's feeling really good how are you feeling about the contestants and the whole everyone
06:01oh I love the cast the cast is awesome I feel like I've equally gotten close to everyone
06:06the pros have been so helpful yeah it's been awesome how do you feel like do you feel like
06:11your relationship with Whitney has improved or where do you feel like that's at
06:16no if anything I feel like we've got we've become more distant
06:26I have like 30 minutes okay and then I have to leave again all righty no problem
06:32well how was your day I just had a really bad camera block day like it was a horrible day
06:37and
06:37Mark and I were talking in the hallway I was just like letting out all my emotions and Jen walked
06:42out and was like hey are people talking shit about you on social media I'm like that's not
06:47why I'm crying but thanks oh man I did not think I was even going to be making it this
06:53far through
06:53the competition which is crazy but can be very hard because you're seeing the comments and stuff
07:00online for me it can be very emotionally taxing I just want you to say hey like I'm here for
07:08you
07:08what can what can I do yeah her hyping me up in the background saying vote for Jen when she
07:15like
07:15never reaches out it's never call you or text you all week and then when the cameras are on and
07:21millions of people are watching suddenly she's your your biggest fan that bothers me I was expecting
07:27that our friendship was going to grow through this process but we haven't talked to each other
07:32throughout Dancing with the Stars like there hasn't really been any relationship I mean we barely talk
07:37I don't know if I told you this but when I went out and took the kids out with Connor
07:41I don't know
07:41if you've heard but Whitney got offered a spot on Broadway yeah on Chicago I think to be the the
07:50main
07:50character like the leading role so I think she's planning on moving out there come January dang she can't
07:56be the main character of mom talk she'll be the main character for Broadway it's perfect
08:25hey hi what's up oh just got done working out nice you want to help me
08:32yes I don't realize until I see you next to the bedding that this is really pink
08:37yeah it's pretty pink I feel like the LDS upbringing I had does make it a lot easier to
08:42sweep things under the rug and just pretend that things are good when they're not Jordan and I are
08:47still struggling a bit but I don't think I'm ready to take the next step of like filing for divorce
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08:52this point but I definitely wonder okay what are the repercussions I have to be smart about this
08:57for my kids and my future and my business well lady world was fun I'm sad you weren't there
09:02oh but I didn't tell you what they announced being us when they announced me and I came out she
09:07said
09:07Jesse nasty Cara that's hilarious it's funny but it's also like hard for me because I feel like in
09:17this industry having a name that's easy like makes sense like Taylor Paul that rolls off your tongue
09:21you remember it yeah and when Taylor gets married she'll change her name no that's her ex-husband's
09:26last name she's keeping it because she has been Taylor Paul since she had a following
09:32the reason I wanted to talk about that is because I I told you this before that I do feel
09:36like going
09:37by Draper would be better I'm not trying to do it to hurt you it's not a dig at you
09:42it's really just about the name you're not vindictive but I do think you're selfish
09:46that's great it's just the way I feel it's not being condescending okay it's not condescending it's
09:52just genuinely the way that I feel if I was condescending I would say other things that's
09:57what scares me is I feel like it's always under the surface like the stuff you want to say and
10:00you're just not because you know you know because that's not who I am anymore and I've proven that
10:03a lot of my issues coordinate with you making decisions that are selfish you know deep down I think
10:08we both know that going by my maiden name Draper gives me freedom again which I feel like I haven't
10:13had in a long time if I start going by Draper now if we did get divorced in the future
10:18it wouldn't be
10:19a huge change for my career so I do just kind of feel like it's the safest thing to do
10:24right now
10:24it feels selfish and that's okay you told me it was selfish yourself
10:47you ready to hit some balls sure am ready to whoop your out oh you did hit the curve well
10:53it's
10:53fine it's fine my center Sunday event is tonight and honestly my stress levels are at an all-time
10:58high because I know that Shania is coming and she's about to confess her wrongdoing with Dakota so I
11:04definitely need to blow off some steam so I'm taking a little tennis lesson I thought it would
11:08be fun for us to just you know hit some balls and grunt a little bit I'm just kidding
11:16oh hi Danny let's go cougs you call us cougs cougars all right now that I have been kind of
11:24far
11:25removed from tennis for the last seven years I kind of stopped once my college career ended
11:28and I honestly miss it so much my pride is here no way you don't even know what I got
11:33this is the start of my new career are you ready for this prepare to be amazed all right and
11:42it
11:42came so fast and it's time for my tennis career to take off once again are you gonna start playing
11:49again yeah there we go oh you're there ah give me another yep you're doing great thank you
12:02there we go there we go there she is
12:06how does it feel to be back out here feels good but I feel like I'm in slow motion did
12:11I tell you
12:11I'm back to therapy you did well we did like a couples therapy thing how was that I mean it
12:16was
12:16fine I feel like I just I feel like I'm at a point where like when I get really angry
12:21I'm like okay
12:22fine then go have sex with someone like leave me alone almost like no like actually like I'm like
12:27I feel like I'm working on so many different things outside of just sex and I know that obviously he
12:32can't just be like okay well we can just go without that we both get to a point where we
12:34feel really
12:35helpless about it because he's like I feel like you don't have the motivation to do it and I'm like
12:39I don't think I have the motivation to do it right now because I know that it's really hard to
12:42work
12:42through Jason I haven't made really any progress as far as our intimacy and our sex life goes I'm
12:49obviously very attracted to Jason I want to be married to him it makes me sad that I'm not able
12:54to meet his needs and I know that there's only so long that he can be patient with me for
13:04hey there he is what's up my guy how are you doing I'm not bad how are you so I
13:12just wanted to um
13:14get your advice it's between Michaela and I we're still kind of dealing with the same struggles that
13:20we've been dealing with for a long time the intimacy side of our relationship it feels like we both kind
13:26of feel like we're stuck I mean yeah man that's a scary thing to be in right now and I
13:31feel for you
13:32kissing is harder for me than sex because I think kissing is more intimate for me and I obviously have
13:37triggers with kissing sometimes I'll go through the day and I'm I'm holding down the fort like you
13:42I'm holding down the fort at home and then also we just had this newborn I'm doing everything I can
13:47sometimes when Michaela will come home and she'll want for me then to start taking care of her
13:52which I want to do but I need to to take care of my needs also but also it's not
14:00fair for me like
14:01if I'm not feeling like working on it to like keep dragging it along like yeah I'm gonna work on
14:05it
14:05eventually like what would you do then like just separate I don't know what are you wanting what do
14:11you want man
14:31more than anything and more than like the actual sex I just want to feel like I can connect with
14:38my
14:39wife again yeah and I want to feel um I want to feel loved by my wife
14:48that's got to feel incredibly lonely and isolating we're stuck in this place that we've been stuck in
14:54for like four years should I just go away from the house for a couple weeks and not have the
15:00pressures
15:00of trying to fix the intimacy issues right now but I have this baby I want to focus on being
15:06the best
15:06mom for her and being the best wife but I'm also lost because I don't know how to handle it
15:12and part
15:12of me is like I want to be done but I also know I don't want to be done so
15:15I'm like what do I do I
15:16how to handle it I don't know I don't know
15:46She's such a slut-bag ho to me.
15:47Like, I almost thought it was a joke.
15:49I thought it was a joke because I'm going to fucking ruin her.
15:52Dakota and I were texting and I find out that Dakota's sleeping with Shania.
15:55I'm sorry, I don't even care what this does to me.
15:58I act on impulse, unfortunately.
16:00So, I don't give a fuck.
16:01After he told me everything, I was like, it's all on purpose.
16:04It's not like he's trying to go out and move on.
16:06It's who it is to get at me.
16:07And it's disgusting again and it takes me back again.
16:11It's fucking gross, you have to admit. You have to admit.
16:14I haven't...
16:15I couldn't, I could not agree more with you.
16:18And she knows that and I've said that to her.
16:19Then why did she do it?
16:20I wish I knew.
16:25And I'm sorry.
16:27For what?
16:29That I didn't say anything sooner, but I also...
16:33Well, so you guys all left to Dakota to tell me.
16:38Right before I leave.
16:39I thought there was maybe loyalty on MomTalk end.
16:42Like, to me, it's the sneakiness of it.
16:44If you know you're sneaking it, that means you know how bad it is.
16:47I cannot believe that MomTalk would protect Shania, a snake, over me.
16:52Is she going tonight?
16:55I don't know.
16:56I guarantee she doesn't show up.
16:57I will fucking call you out, so just let you know.
17:00Kat, yeah, be ready for it.
17:02I'm going to have to have a discussion with all my fucking so-called friends.
17:05Because this is what I fucking found out from him.
17:11And all my friends knew.
17:12And I don't want to fucking hear,
17:14Oh, we knew you were going to be too late.
17:15We don't want to hurt your feelings.
17:16You guys fucking knew I would know.
17:18You knew that.
17:18You guys all knew.
17:19You're not.
17:19You've got to be smarter than that.
17:21I'm sure you guys are.
17:23I also, I don't think I knew Dakota the way that you do.
17:26And I genuinely thought that he would, would want to keep it under wraps.
17:31And then to know that he didn't.
17:32And he wanted to-
17:33But this is your nasty asshole friend.
17:36Yeah, and I'm not, I'm also pissed at her.
17:39Taylor and I have both worked really hard to rebuild our friendship.
17:43It would be so beyond disappointing if a man were to be the downfall of us once again.
17:53I hate her.
17:54And so right now I am very busy because I got to edit some videos because I fucking ate her.
18:20Hi.
18:22Are they all lining out there?
18:24Yeah, they're all ready for you.
18:25Oh my goodness.
18:26Look at me.
18:27They're all ready to sin.
18:30Sinner Sunday is basically a page where people can anonymously confess their sins and it gets very juicy.
18:38And so this event is going to be really fun because it's my center community coming out to just have
18:42a fun time.
18:43It is her.
18:44It has to be just-
18:45Your hair looks so good.
18:47It does look so good.
18:47Did you cut it?
18:48I did.
18:49What kind of a makeup look are you doing?
18:50I like the one from the picture I sent you.
18:52I'm so excited.
18:53That's going to look so good.
18:55I feel like a little dramatic, you know?
18:56I know.
18:59Are you kidding?
19:01Dakota, I think, told Tuller.
19:03Miranda just texted and said, just got off the phone with Taylor.
19:05She hates all of us for not telling her.
19:08Are you serious?
19:11That's so unfair when we're all just trying to look out for her not being a mental patient and not
19:16being able to go to the bachelor because of it.
19:18Taylor just called me.
19:19Shit.
19:20Okay.
19:21Just call her back.
19:22Because the-
19:23I could see her not a little-
19:24It's fine.
19:24I'll talk to her.
19:25Hi.
19:26Hey, how are you?
19:28Uh, horrible.
19:28What's up?
19:29Um, so I just want you to know that the rest of us found out about this just recently.
19:34And-
19:35Yeah, I heard.
19:36I know.
19:36Um, I just want you to know that we just weren't going to tell you quite yet just because we
19:41didn't want your mental state to be-
19:43It's fine.
19:43My mental state's fucked now.
19:44So what does everyone want to say now?
19:45Hey, Taylor, you need to understand that we've been nothing but good friends to you and I'm trying to be
19:49there for you.
19:49So will you please not be like that?
19:51Go for it.
19:52Okay.
19:52There is something else Dakota's done that you need to know about.
19:55Okay.
19:56That you feel-
19:57I mean, are you coming tonight?
19:58Just- can you just say it?
19:59I'm tired of being tortured at this point.
20:01Can you just say it?
20:02Okay.
20:04He hooked up with Jana and like basically almost had sex with her like a couple weeks ago.
20:09Okay.
20:10So he's a piece of shit and I hope you really see that.
20:14And I found out about this a day ago and I was after the shine stuff and I was like,
20:18yeah, I'm not hiding this from Taylor.
20:19Like he's a piece of crap.
20:21So you deserve to know that.
20:22That's what I'm telling you.
20:25Okay.
20:26Thank you for telling me.
20:27No, it's fine.
20:28I'm gonna fucking light them all up.
20:32And it's coming for fucking Jenna too.
20:34Jenna, she tried multiple times to get me on her podcast and like begging me and like trying to help
20:40me and then does that behind my back.
20:43It's disgusting really.
20:44The fuck is wrong with people?
20:46They also look so stupid too.
20:48Your feelings are valid.
20:49I know.
20:50I know that they're valid.
20:51And I have every right to call her out.
20:53No, Taylor.
20:54Dakota's a piece of shit for doing this.
20:55We're not talking about Dakota.
20:56We're talking about the bitch.
20:57I already posted about Shania.
20:58I just did a video with her.
20:59Little fucking little sneak.
21:00But I don't want you to compromise.
21:02I am gonna call out.
21:03I'm gonna fuck about Dakota.
21:04I'm calling out the stupid dumb ass bitches about her stupid.
21:08This is stemming from the pain of Dakota.
21:10You wouldn't care.
21:11I'm gonna fucking fuck them up.
21:12Yes, I am.
21:13I come back to this bullshit again about who the mother effing girl is.
21:18And it's disgusting because there's so much like history emotion.
21:21It's just like, oh, here we go again.
21:24I just, yeah, I want to let it go.
21:26Cause like, I'm literally just suffering.
21:28Like I'm suffering because I won't like, I resist letting it go.
21:30Obviously it controls like my incisions and my emotions and I'm just like tired.
21:34I'm like physically exhausted.
21:35Take a night.
21:36I get that.
21:37But like, don't let this ruin the bachelorette for you.
21:39That'll be the biggest regret you ever do because you know,
21:42you're not going to be with me ever again.
21:43You've said that.
21:44We all want this for you, Taylor.
21:46Like we all want you to move on and be happy.
21:48Yeah, I know.
21:48I hear you guys.
21:49We're on your side though.
21:51Just know that.
21:57But I am sorry.
21:58And Shania sucks.
21:59And I can't believe she did this.
22:00And same with Jenna.
22:03I hope you guys have fun tonight.
22:05This has been happening for three years.
22:06Dakota definitely purposely hooks up with friends in Taylor's circle to piss her off.
22:10And like, I feel like it's almost an isolation tactic too.
22:13Like sleep with all of her friends so she no longer has those friends.
22:15And then she'll come running back to him.
22:17I think it reeks of desperation if I'm being completely honest.
22:20We'll leave you alone.
22:21But I just, I want you to know we love you and we're here for you.
22:23And if you need anything, we're here.
22:26Okay.
22:27All right.
22:28Bye.
22:29Okay.
22:29Bye.
22:34I'm sorry.
22:36It's fine.
22:37I already did it.
22:39We need to look at the video she posted.
22:41Just found out the snake in the middle is sleeping with my baby daddy.
22:45Meanwhile, crying to me because she just got dumped by a married man.
22:48This doesn't look good for her to post things.
22:50That's what I'm saying.
22:51Like, what are you doing?
22:52What is she doing?
22:52Taylor gets comments.
22:53Ooh, keep being petty queen.
22:55And people vibe her up for this.
22:56And that's why she keeps doing it.
22:57And she's known for that.
22:58But it's getting to a point where it's not okay.
23:01Oh, this is a nightmare.
23:15I'm walking into Macy's center Sunday party with Jace.
23:19And I feel like I'm in a pressure cooker with this separation issue.
23:23Because I feel like I'm also a little bit lost of what to do right now.
23:26And so I don't fully know what to communicate to the other girls in mom talk.
23:30So I'm just trying to put on this.
23:33We're good.
23:34We're here to support Macy.
23:36Oh, spooky.
23:38Oh, my God.
23:39Oh, this is kind of scary.
23:41So good.
23:41Hey.
23:42Like, should we do a praying one?
23:44Or is it not religious?
23:46Whoa.
23:46Damn.
23:47A little satanic.
23:48More than I expected.
23:50Hi.
23:51Hi.
23:51Oh, all right.
23:53Shafted.
23:53Oh, my goodness.
23:54You went straight from Mikayla.
23:55How is everyone?
23:57Nice.
23:57I feel like great.
23:58Taylor, she's coming.
23:59Oh, yeah, she's...
24:00Oh, she's a mess right now.
24:01Why is she not a mess?
24:02I'm so scared.
24:03We were doing it for you so that you wouldn't ruin this experience that you're leaving for
24:08in four days.
24:09She's like, I'm gonna call everyone out.
24:10I'm gonna ruin their lives.
24:11I think Taylor is valid in her feelings.
24:14However, it doesn't feel good as a friend that I continue to have your back time and time
24:18again.
24:18But the second I do you wrong in your eyes, I'm a shit friend and you don't want to be
24:24around me.
24:25And it's just...
24:27It's really...
24:27It's really hurtful.
24:34Hello.
24:35How is everyone?
24:36Thriving?
24:38I'm just frustrated.
24:39I'm over this whole situation.
24:41I am too.
24:41How do you feel about that?
24:42I'm pissed.
24:44Yeah, I'm pissed.
24:45Okay, so what do we do?
24:46After I found out about Shania and Dakota, I did not withhold that information with malicious
24:52intent.
24:53But once Taylor sees red, it's hard to reason with her.
24:58Ugh, you guys.
25:00I'm bit drained.
25:01Uh-oh.
25:01Taylor posted a story.
25:02No, she didn't.
25:03Anyone praying for my downfall, please just stay the fuck away from me.
25:07And anyone associated with these people moving forward, also stay the fuck away from
25:10me.
25:10Wanna be friends with desperate snakes, you'll be no friend of mine.
25:15Is this about you?
25:16No one's praying for my downfall.
25:17No one's praying for your downfall.
25:19Like, no one's, like, trying to hide things.
25:21And again, by your own logic, we're all going through shit.
25:23We've all fucked up.
25:24And how many times have we been put in this situation with information that's gonna hurt
25:27Taylor and we have to tiptoe around her and babysit her emotions?
25:30It's hard.
25:31I understand her being upset, but the thing is, what are you supposed to do when you're
25:35put in a situation like this?
25:36And Shania's been your best friend for how many years?
25:38It's wrong.
25:39It is wrong.
25:40It is wrong.
25:45It is wrong.
25:48All the guys that Shania's walked in.
25:50Shania did.
25:51Oh my God, she has a lot of balls.
25:52She does.
25:53I'm like scared.
25:54So she doesn't know Taylor's not coming.
25:56Probably so.
25:57So what do we do now?
25:58Like, let Shania sit down.
26:00Yeah, we need to talk to you.
26:01Oh.
26:02Wait, who's calling you?
26:03Oh, Taylor.
26:04Speak of the devil.
26:05Hello.
26:06Hi.
26:07Hi.
26:08How are you doing?
26:09How are you?
26:10We're here with Laila, Miranda, and Jessica.
26:22I don't know.
26:23Shania just walked up here, so I'm like, we'll call you after.
26:26Yeah, we'll call you after.
26:26I'll call you after.
26:27And I'll give you an update.
26:29Okay, bye.
26:33You guys pull up the chair.
26:38Hi.
26:39Hi, Mom.
26:40Oh, Macy.
26:41Mind if I squeeze in here?
26:42Hi.
26:42Hi.
26:43I want to understand Shania because I really don't know what her intentions are, but I also
26:48don't understand why she's going for Dakota.
26:50Like, what's wrong?
26:51Like, seriously, like Salt Lake isn't that small.
26:53Like, can we not find someone else?
26:55Is it not gross to you that he's like slept with other girls in between all this?
26:58Well, he also makes it sound like he hasn't.
27:01That's what I'm saying.
27:01Like, he's lying to me.
27:02He's like, let's have a sex pact, but I'm going to go fuck the next day.
27:05Like.
27:05Already been seeing each other for what?
27:06Like a week and a half?
27:08Yeah.
27:08And he's, and he's literally lied to you at least, at least like 10 times in that span.
27:15No, I think that's like ridiculous.
27:17I don't know why he's trying to do that.
27:18I'm like, that's extra.
27:19But this is Dakota.
27:20Like, we've seen him do it to Taylor for years.
27:22I just want you to know that like, you're not an exception.
27:24I think he's going to do it.
27:26He did it already.
27:27Do you see a potential future of him?
27:31To a point, like with him, yes.
27:34With Dakota.
27:35This is the first time I'm hearing this.
27:37Okay.
27:37Him as a person?
27:39Yes.
27:41So I guess my question is if you were going to talk to Taylor tonight, but you still plan
27:45on seeing him, like, what was that conversation going to go like?
27:48I never meant it to her, Taylor.
27:50Like, I saw her with Ben and I saw her and she's going on The Bachelor.
27:53I knew all the things, but I'm just like, I don't, I don't know.
27:59I didn't think it would be like this.
28:02Taylor just tells me.
28:04I didn't go literally like you.
28:06Did you hear?
28:07Oh, okay.
28:09Sorry.
28:11Taylor's blowing up my phone right now and I can't answer because Shania is right
28:14across the table.
28:15So we have to go outside so that we can see what's going on.
28:18Hey mom, talk.
28:22Yeah.
28:22Hi.
28:23Okay.
28:23We're outside.
28:24I think she thought you were coming because she was going to tell you about all of this.
28:28In what world is there to say anything at this point?
28:31Like, I guess I don't know the agenda there.
28:33You should comment by now.
28:35There's nothing that she could possibly fucking say.
28:36And I want to know if Miranda's going to be friends with this bitch.
28:38So, because she just posted a video of her three days ago.
28:41And you're telling me, Miranda, if you can hear me, you've known for a fucking week.
28:44I'm clear.
28:45And you just post.
28:45What?
28:46I said, yeah, I can hear you loud and clear.
28:48Okay, good.
28:48Loud and clear.
28:49So you posted with her?
28:50Oh, what?
28:51Just three days ago when you knew this about her and you're like saying, sorry, you got
28:54caught in a fucking video.
28:55It's disgusting.
28:55By the way, I didn't know.
28:57I didn't know.
28:57I found the rest of it out when everyone else did.
29:00The rest of what?
29:01The rest of what?
29:01I knew about the first night they hung out.
29:03That's all I knew about.
29:04I don't.
29:04You knew that they fucked.
29:05Don't lie.
29:06Don't lie.
29:06That's what I'm saying.
29:07I just knew about that night.
29:08I didn't know that they kept seeing each other.
29:10I don't care about how many times and what nights you knew.
29:13Taylor, I think at the end of the day, like, it doesn't change.
29:16It doesn't matter the timeframe that everyone knew.
29:18So her intention of not telling you was not malicious.
29:20It was to protect you.
29:22Absolutely does as a friend.
29:23Absolutely.
29:24I'm like, oh, you chose Shania's little sneaky snake ass over mine.
29:27Do I agree with that?
29:28No.
29:29Because I think Shania's true colors will come out as they always do.
29:32And let's see.
29:33This is a hard situation for Miranda and she's trying to navigate it.
29:36I don't care what's fucking fair.
29:38I can't.
29:39I care.
29:39People can make a mistake.
29:42Taylor, you've played plenty of mistakes before in your life.
29:44No matter what, Taylor, this would have hurt you no matter when you found out.
29:48I didn't want to say there's no fear in the mind ever again.
29:51Ever.
29:54It's painful.
29:54It's shitty.
29:55It sucks.
29:56It's fucked.
29:56It's disgusting.
29:57Truly.
29:58Call you after.
29:59Do you feel like you have to choose now?
30:02Yeah.
30:02One, it's triggering.
30:03I'm sure it's triggering for you in that friendship.
30:06Yeah, it is.
30:06I guess she's heated, but also, like,
30:08Well, you see, Shania's been a better friend to me than Taylor ever has.
30:11Yeah, and that's why it's hard.
30:13Taylor giving me an ultimatum on choosing her or Shania
30:16is frustrating because I'm not your partner and I'm not your child.
30:22I'm your friend, and I'm pretty sure that Taylor is not going to like my decision
30:26from where I'm standing right now.
30:27Maybe just use this as an opportunity to give her space.
30:30I think you guys have been through a lot worse and have come back for minutes.
30:33You're a good friend.
30:44We'll have to pack up because Macy's going to be hurt.
30:46Whoa.
30:48Say hi, Daddy.
30:50Hi, sweetie.
30:51You are so pretty.
30:54I don't even know what I'll need, honestly.
30:58So how are you feeling about everything?
31:00Um, so Jason and I stayed up late last night talking out the pros and the cons of separating.
31:06Between all of the mom talk drama and the pressure that I feel to get my marriage in a good
31:12place,
31:12I'm definitely reaching a breaking point.
31:16I'm feeling very maxed out today just because my freaking nerves are hurting so bad.
31:24We both agreed to do a separation.
31:29What are you looking to get out of this?
31:35I think just working on my stuff separately.
31:39At home, you feel like you can't focus on your, on your skin and your health because I'm also here.
31:47Well, I think it's hard with the, like anytime you bring up the stuff, like the sex and intimacy,
31:53I feel like it's hard on me because I feel like, again, my nervous system is already in fight or
31:57flight
31:57and I'm already maxed out.
31:59Like my bucket is full.
32:00I know, but for me, it seems like the solution to that would be to commit to trauma therapy
32:07until you're at the point where it doesn't make your nervous system freak out.
32:11I know.
32:11I feel like I've done a lot of therapy work already and my stuff is still bad.
32:16And again, I don't think it's like with the intention of being separated forever.
32:20And I think we're obviously still going to see each other like every single day.
32:23I'm not trying to go even a day away from the kids anyways.
32:27Should we get her a bottle?
32:31Move those fingers.
32:32For something like this to feel effective for me, maybe we don't get back together until you feel like you
32:41can commit to our relationship.
32:46I don't know, just the pressure of like when it's going to be fixed.
32:53I think that's what's hard.
32:54I think it's definitely hard to put a timeline on the situation because it could take weeks.
32:59It could take months to be healed.
33:01There's part of me that is definitely scared to lose him because I feel like our marriage is so good
33:07outside of the sexual intimacy part of it.
33:10Which it's ironic because that's his number one need and that's my number one wound.
33:14And I think it would be better, you know, for our kids though.
33:22For us to work it out.
33:23I definitely want my kids to see their parents with having a good intimate connection.
33:30Yeah, emotional connection.
33:33Yeah, both.
33:35Yeah.
33:49Hi.
33:49Hi.
33:50Honey, I'm home.
33:51Hey, Macy.
33:53Yeah, you want to put Lani in and meet me out there?
33:55Yeah.
33:56It does make me very sad to know that Jace and Mikaela are separating for a little bit.
34:00And I'm going to try my best to be there for her in any capacity that she needs me.
34:06I'll give you a moment.
34:08Love you.
34:09I love you.
34:10I'm talking to Lani, okay?
34:11Mm-hmm.
34:16You're a little pokey on my neck.
34:17Oh, sorry.
34:18A little shaky.
34:20I'll take good care of her.
34:22Don't worry.
34:23If you want to talk too, I'm all ears too.
34:25And Jacob is as well.
34:32Okay.
34:33I think as sad as it is, I do take comfort in knowing that I do have such a great
34:38support
34:38system in MomTalk.
34:39I don't want to have to tear our family apart, but I also know that I have to be selfish
34:44for
34:45a period of time so that I can heal.
34:59Today is the main title shoot, and this is the first time MomTalk is back together again
35:03since the situation with Taylor.
35:05And since Whitney and Jenny didn't show up to my book event, things do feel a little bit
35:08awkward and contentious in the room.
35:11So we'll see how this goes.
35:13Hello.
35:14Good morning.
35:15Good morning.
35:16Good morning.
35:16How are we?
35:18Thriving.
35:19Thriving.
35:19You know, I'm deathly allergic to horses.
35:21Why are we doing it on a horse farm?
35:23How are you?
35:24Good.
35:25It's your hair.
35:26What?
35:26It's more red.
35:27No, she's got extensions.
35:28I gotta...
35:28No, but the color's more red.
35:30I got it done.
35:31I got it done yesterday.
35:32Yeah.
35:33I don't think it's fully hitting me, the gravity of the situation of being separated, but
35:38I don't like to sit in the sadness and just feel it, so it's nice to have a distraction
35:42to go do the main title.
35:43Shoot.
35:43Where's Jessie?
35:44She's doing her individual shot in the cocoon.
35:48In the cocoon?
35:49Yeah.
35:50We're like butterflies.
35:50And you have to get out.
35:51I heard it's actually us coming out of the womb.
35:54Shut the fuck up.
35:55I love you.
35:57Did Taylor talk to you at all after the event, or did you reach out?
36:00I texted her, and I basically was just saying, I understand that your feelings are heightened,
36:05and the way that your feeling's valid, but go easy on Miranda.
36:09This is a really hard place for her to be in right now.
36:12Yeah.
36:12You are two of her good friends, and she's having to basically pick between you guys,
36:15which is hard.
36:16That's what's so crazy, is that I genuinely don't know how I ended up here again, because
36:22part of the reason the whole situation is triggering for me as a whole is because
36:25I feel like I'm in the exact same position that I was in in 2022, where I'm finding out
36:30about Taylor's affair, and now I have to then decide how I'm going to go about handling
36:37that information.
36:38And it's just like the exact same situation, only Taylor's on the other end of it this
36:42time.
36:43During the swinging scandal, I was the middleman and felt expected to keep Taylor's affair
36:51a secret from the other wife, and now I am the middleman between Shania and Taylor.
36:58There is a little bit of a double standard there.
37:00And all in all, it feels like I'm doing a lot of giving and not a whole lot of receiving
37:04here.
37:05Oh, there she is.
37:06Speak of the devil.
37:09Morning.
37:10Hi, guys.
37:10Is that the devil?
37:11Holy shit, you're fully ready.
37:13We need to be here at eight.
37:14Eight?
37:15Wait, why?
37:16Because we're not Taylor.
37:16We don't get the latest call time on the cast.
37:19Yeah.
37:19Oh, damn.
37:19There's perks to being the favorite.
37:21Are you going to crash out this morning?
37:22I mean, I crash out almost every day, but I think I'm just overwhelmed.
37:25Well, yeah.
37:26I was just saying that about you.
37:27I was like, you're just at your tipping point.
37:29Yeah.
37:29What are you overwhelmed with?
37:31Just leaving?
37:32Seeing everything going on?
37:33Yeah.
37:33Everything.
37:34What was yesterday that I was...
37:37Everything was a blur.
37:38Uh, I feel kind of like, like, just a little awkward.
37:45I was in that moment, like, so angry.
37:47But I think my anger towards Dakota and myself definitely gets redirected to other people.
37:52That is for sure.
37:53I can admit that.
37:55Hi.
37:55Hi, love you.
37:56Are we good?
37:56Do we love each other still?
37:57We do.
37:58I've never stopped loving you.
37:59Okay.
37:59I still stand by what I said that, like, I think the name calling can be, like, hard,
38:03you know?
38:04It can be.
38:04But I understand that your emotions were high.
38:06I regret it.
38:06I would still say it today.
38:08And that we handle things very differently.
38:10I think she's a gross, disgusting bitch.
38:12Why?
38:12Because to me, it doesn't seem like you were close.
38:15So I'm like, why was she so hurt by it?
38:17Because if you're trying to be friends with me and get close to me, instead you go and
38:20fuck my baby daddy?
38:21You don't think there's something wrong with that?
38:26That's odd.
38:26She knows the pain I've gone through because we've confided each other about breakups
38:30and things.
38:31Okay.
38:31I think it's snaky.
38:32Okay.
38:33I'm very confused why Taylor is so amped up.
38:37I'm really trying to understand why she's reacting this way.
38:40I've learned filming two reality shows at the same time can be very overwhelming.
38:45And it's very important to have that mental clarity.
38:48So I'm starting to feel a little bit worried for her because she's literally about to leave
38:53to go be the bachelorette.
38:54Can I get you dressed for?
38:56Yes.
38:57Yes.
38:58Wait, last night what?
39:00Dakota was saying he felt bad actually.
39:01Yeah.
39:02He's like, this was so wrong.
39:04And to be honest, like everything hit me.
39:05Like I lost you.
39:06I lost my child.
39:07And he's like, I'm just like, so sad.
39:10But if you want to be with him, then go be with him.
39:12But you don't.
39:14I think everything Dakota does is a complete red flag.
39:17I feel like he's a walking red flag.
39:19So it does not shock me that he decided to love bomb her right before the bachelorette.
39:22But I feel like he's definitely hurt at the concept of her coming back and being in love and engaged
39:26and moved on from him.
39:28So I feel like he's doing anything possible to ruin this experience for her.
39:32And I hope that she can see through that.
39:33We just don't want to see you allowing yourself to get hurt again.
39:35Well, no, he said that.
39:36He was like, it sucks because he's like, I know you love me.
39:38And like, you can't be with me.
39:40Exactly.
39:40And I'm like, I don't want to talk about it because I can't.
39:41I get it.
39:43If you're going to go do the bachelorette, like, you have to be in it.
39:46Well, I do think that's my only way out of this.
39:47I do agree with that.
39:48But I worry if you don't find someone that you're going to come back and be stuck in it again.
39:53Like he just said, like, yeah, he was just like, I feel like you just need to marry me.
39:58That's what he said.
39:59Oh, perfect.
39:59I mean, Dakota was definitely apologizing for what he did with Shania.
40:03And do I believe him?
40:04No.
40:05He knew how this would affect me.
40:07And he was like, well, maybe if I make her like crash out hard enough, she won't go to the
40:11bachelorette.
40:11And I think that's deliberately Jenna and Shania.
40:13Hmm.
40:14If it takes everything in me to get up and go, I'm going to do that.
40:18There's times you can bleed with your heel.
40:20Yep.
40:21Heel.
40:22Heel.
40:23Like, I just, I love how it's so, you get to glide.
40:26Glide.
40:27Glide.
40:27Okay.
40:27This is my new favorite dance.
40:28Yeah.
40:29I have really exciting news.
40:30Why?
40:31It's not official yet.
40:33Okay.
40:33But Chicago reached out to the team.
40:35I did hear.
40:36I did hear.
40:37From Zach.
40:38Zach's a mother.
40:39Can I take you, girl?
40:40Sorry.
40:41Yes.
40:41We're ready for you.
40:41Okay, okay, okay.
40:42Oh.
40:44That is incredible.
40:46Yeah.
40:46Why didn't you tell me that you knew?
40:49Why didn't you tell me that you knew?
40:49I feel like there's just so much happening.
40:51It's hard to keep up.
40:52I see Jen almost every single day.
40:55I text her.
40:56We talk a lot.
40:58And she hasn't said anything once.
41:01Everybody's telling me I gotta act right.
41:04Sit right.
41:05Talk right.
41:06To me, that's very weird.
41:08And I find that very off-putting.
41:10The only thing that I can think of is things that I have felt from way long ago.
41:15Is it just makes me feel like you just don't care.
41:23That was brutal.
41:29Thank you, Maisie.
41:30What is the state of mom talk right now?
41:32Who's in?
41:33Who's out?
41:35Demi, have you officially left mom talk?
41:40I feel like everyone's kind of just like doing their own thing.
41:43Like spreading their own wings.
41:44Like butterflies?
41:46What do you mean?
41:47Well, besides Jessie being in the other room,
41:49this is the first time that mom talk has been together for a minute.
41:53We survived.
41:53I'm not just saying that.
41:54I genuinely have missed being with you guys.
41:57Do you hang out with anyone in California?
42:00No.
42:00What about you and Whitney?
42:02Yo, what the fuck?
42:03We never talk.
42:05We literally never talk.
42:08To be honest, I have been hesitant to get close to her because I do think her being nice to
42:14me too on Dancing with the Stars is transactional.
42:18I do think at the end of the day, Whitney only cares about Whitney and you can't tell me otherwise.
42:26I'm just kind of like at my wits end.
42:28Yeah.
42:29I mean, that's what I thought.
42:30But then I heard that and I was like, oh, great.
42:32Like Jordan's still really upset about the name change, even though I know it's what's right for me.
42:37So even though I haven't made a decision about Jordan and I, I met with my dad to go over
42:41this prenup.
42:42It's been over five years and I do not remember what's in it.
42:45Oh, yeah.
42:46This is really long.
42:48I definitely feel like I need to have like a divorce lawyer look at it.
42:51I keep saying like Jordan's a hard person to be married to, but I think he'd be a harder person
42:54to divorce.
42:56Yeah.
42:56After looking at my prenup a bit, we discovered that me and Jordan did not have witnesses sign it.
43:01So that could mean that the prenup is voided.
43:04Yeah.
43:06Yeah.
43:06Sorry.
43:08Yeah, it's fine.
43:09No, I'm okay.
43:10Okay.
43:10I'll come out.
43:11Okay.
43:13This information has really rattled me because I just don't know what that could mean for me, my business and
43:18the security of my family.
43:20Before we go, I just need to say an announcement.
43:23I wanted to apologize for being mean to everybody.
43:28I just feel bad.
43:30And I think I'm also about to start my periods.
43:32I'm a little wacky.
43:33I hope you are.
43:34But I'm sorry for being mean to all of you.
43:37I've been snappy.
43:38I know.
43:38Yeah, you have.
43:39I agree.
43:40But you know that we're all coming from a place of love.
43:42I don't want you to ever feel attacked.
43:44Like, yes, we judge a lot of the things you do, but it's from a place of love.
43:47So we hate to see you hurting.
43:48And it's been like this for a long time.
43:50I think, too, just being like, if you don't want to hear it, that's fine.
43:53That's fair.
43:53Just being like, I hear you.
43:56Like, I don't want to be receptive right now.
43:59I mean, I just have nothing else to say anymore.
44:02Yeah.
44:02And I think neither do we.
44:03Yeah.
44:04Like, about it.
44:04Amen.
44:05Because you know where we all stand.
44:06Great.
44:09I do feel like Taylor's apology is genuine.
44:12But I think at this point, I'm feeling a little bit weary.
44:16And we'll be proceeding with caution moving forward.
44:19Jessie, are you okay?
44:22Okay.
44:23I'm sorry.
44:24Um.
44:25Ugh.
44:26I went over my prenup with my dad and I found out it wasn't finished.
44:30And so.
44:31Fuck.
44:32Wait, what?
44:33What do you mean?
44:34So me and Jordan signed up, but we didn't have witness signatures.
44:36So it could be all voided.
44:38And I've just been struggling with that.
44:40Cause it's just like, I don't know what my decision is, but I feel like if I make that
44:43decision of putting my business, my family, like a terrible situation, I just don't know
44:50what will happen.
44:51I'll probably lose millions.
44:52I'm kind of confused.
44:53What does that mean?
44:53That means that you can take half of her business, half of everything that she has.
44:57Can't they like do that now?
44:58Can't you do it now?
44:59No, like it's a prenup.
45:00Like he's entitled to anything in the last five years that I've created.
45:03And when we got married, I was worth a lot less than I am now.
45:07So it just sucks.
45:09And I'm just like, I don't want to do that to my family and my dad's like my business
45:12partner.
45:12And I mean, I've told you how much I'm worried.
45:14Like, do you think he would do that?
45:17I don't know.
45:17He's entitled to it.
45:18So like, he would, I could see him doing it to just, I would owe him child support or
45:23to keep it.
45:23I would owe him alimony.
45:24I'm just like terrified that I'm putting my family in a bad situation.
45:27And I'm like, I'll just stay.
45:29Can't stay because of this though, Jess, you're going to build that money back.
45:32No, I know.
45:32Right away.
45:33You're so successful.
45:34There's a reason why you have a multi-million dollar business.
45:36You're not dumb when it comes to those things.
45:37You're going to build it back.
45:38You can't stay in a marriage that you're miserable in for money.
45:42Like your happiness means way more.
45:43Jordan has made a lot of changes, but if I'm basing it off of the Jordan that I was married
45:48to for four years, that Jordan would be a very hard person to divorce.
45:52I think he would be spiteful and vindictive.
45:54And I think he would play a little bit dirty.
45:56So I just kind of have to prepare myself that if we do get divorced, it could go that way.
46:16Are you feeling better?
46:18Me?
46:19Yeah.
46:21I'm feeling okay.
46:22I'm going to be honest.
46:23I was a little mad that when you told me that you knew about Chicago, but didn't say anything to
46:29me.
46:30I can totally see why that would frustrate you.
46:33Like when did Zach tell you about it?
46:36Um, sometime last week.
46:40I see you almost every single day in the studio and it wasn't like, I gave in to O'Connor.
46:45I was like, I had no idea that she knew.
46:47Not one thing in the studio, not a text, not anything.
46:50Okay.
46:50Well, I was also very sick and I'm sorry.
46:55Not at every given point I'm thinking.
46:57That's how, that's how it always is, Jen.
46:59You always have all these expectations for everyone else to be, to be supportive to you.
47:03And that expectation is never received ever.
47:06Well, maybe I don't think we're actual genuine friends.
47:10Oh, okay.
47:13I mean, if you truly were my friend, you wouldn't have then became friends with the one person that was
47:20bullying me during the hardest stage of my life.
47:23So.
47:24Okay.
47:24Let's not deflect.
47:25Let's talk about the one, the one thing at hand.
47:27I'm not deflecting.
47:28You knew about Chicago and you never said one thing to me ever.
47:32Well, you asked me.
47:32You asked me why.
47:34I don't really trust Whitney.
47:36She is best friends with Demi.
47:38You guys kiss with, like, what if she's holding that?
47:41Oh.
47:42So how could I be genuine friends with her?
47:45I even texted you after I found out you were sick.
47:47Cause I wanted to make sure you were okay.
47:48No response.
47:49Nothing.
47:50Zero.
47:50Maybe it's because I don't think we have a genuine friendship.
47:56I don't think you actually care about me.
47:59I actually don't think you care about anyone else in this group.
48:02What is going on?
48:03You were nice to me during season two because it benefited you.
48:07And the minute I left, you went and became hooked.
48:10What the fuck?
48:11Jen, no one wanted you around.
48:13I was the one that vouched for you every fucking time.
48:16You didn't vouch for me.
48:17Me.
48:17Yes, I did.
48:18Every time.
48:19When everyone was talking shit about you in Arizona.
48:22Jen, it's true.
48:23Who stood up for you?
48:24Me.
48:24I did.
48:25Question of the day.
48:26Where's Jen?
48:27She is pregnant.
48:29A band-aid baby.
48:30Yay.
48:31What?
48:32The babies don't band-aid anything.
48:33I am so shocked.
48:35Right now there needs to be more understanding.
48:38For the love of God.
48:39If you were my friend.
48:40For the love of God.
48:41You wouldn't have come back to mom talk.
48:43No.
48:43No.
48:43Just to take Dancing with the Stars.
48:45Right.
48:45Right.
48:46First of all, Jen.
48:48Why didn't I reach out?
48:49You don't own that dream.
48:50You don't own it.
48:51I'm not saying.
48:52Anyone can have that dream.
48:53I'm not saying.
48:54Anyone in this cast can go on Dancing with the fucking Stars.
48:57I'm just saying it's how you did it that matters.
49:01Because no one wanted me around.
49:03And then I came back and I built relationships again.
49:06Well, yeah.
49:07I built a relationship again with Mikayla.
49:09Oh, okay.
49:10With every fucking person in this group.
49:12Okay.
49:12Stop deflecting.
49:13I support you.
49:14I'm so sick of you having this expectation.
49:16Okay.
49:17Every single person in this group.
49:18I haven't had any expectations.
49:19Yes, you do.
49:20Do you guys feel like I've had an expectation?
49:22Well, Jen.
49:23I will say that I feel like if we weren't to show complete support for you right now,
49:27Dancing with the Stars, I feel like we would hear it later.
49:29You know?
49:30No, not at all.
49:31It definitely feels like there's a major disconnect with Whitney and Jen from MomTalk as a whole.
49:36Sometimes they kind of lose sight that they wouldn't get these opportunities if it wasn't for MomTalk in general.
49:41Remembering to connect with the people that brought you to where you are is, in my opinion, very important.
49:46Like, from what I remember, it very much felt like Whitney was there for you at that time.
49:51If you were truly there for me, then why become friends with the one person who put me...
49:55Dude, dude, shut the fuck up.
49:57I can separate the two.
49:58I can be friends with someone and be friends with someone else.
50:01I can do that.
50:02I can do that.
50:03And we had a talk at my house when I invited your family to stay with me.
50:08We had that chat.
50:10I said, does that make you uncomfortable?
50:12And you said, no.
50:14I didn't want there to be any underlying contention or hard feelings just because you guys know that we get
50:20along with Demi and Brett.
50:21Yeah.
50:22It's honestly, I would rather not even talk about it.
50:24I'm over it.
50:25I'm just telling you my honest feelings.
50:27It's not your honest feelings, Jen.
50:28You're being manipulative.
50:29I'm not being manipulative.
50:30That's what it is.
50:30Yes, you are.
50:31I'm just telling you genuinely how I feel.
50:33We started the conversation with me sharing how I felt, how you knew about Chicago for a week.
50:38You knew yourself.
50:38Yeah, I do because I'm so fucking pissed.
50:40I'm over it.
50:41Do you see the way that you're screaming?
50:43Yes, I do.
50:43Everyone can see it.
50:44How are we supposed to have a healthy conversation?
50:47This isn't a healthy conversation.
50:48Exactly.
50:49I'm letting it out because I've held it in for so fucking long.
50:52I have been there for you.
50:53You have not been there for me.
50:55No, you don't.
50:55I texted you.
50:56I said, how are you doing?
50:57You ghost me.
50:57How are you doing?
50:58You ghost me.
50:59Get me one text.
51:01It's almost like deja vu that I'm sitting here watching this happen.
51:04Everything that Whitney is saying to Jen was the issues that I was having with Whitney.
51:09So I'm like, whose side am I on here?
51:11The Chicago thing was the tipping point, Jen.
51:13Okay.
51:14I see you every day and not once could you have said, hey, congrats.
51:19That's so exciting for you because we're not friends.
51:23What the fuck is going on?
51:25I definitely feel like sometimes there's a battle between friendship and fame within this group.
51:31And with Taylor and her toxic relationship with Dakota, sometimes I worry about MomTalk's future.
51:38What the fuck?
51:38You just said that to me.
51:39That you don't feel like we're friends.
51:41Okay.
51:41Then fuck you.
51:43Holy shit.
51:55What the fuck is going on?
51:57Fuck you.
51:58Whitney only cares about Whitney and she knows that I hold power.
52:01Someone needs to hold her accountable.
52:02This isn't easy for anyone, Zach.
52:04No.
52:05All of us, all of us are mentally unwell.
52:07I can tell.
52:10I'm so exhausted all the time because I don't eat.
52:12I know that it's going too far and I can't stop.
52:15This is Taylor's last night before she flies out for the Bachelorette.
52:18I would love to be with Taylor.
52:19But is that your plan?
52:20To wait for her?
52:21She filled my head with all this hope now and I don't know what to think.
52:24Do I choose me and what makes me happy?
52:26There's a lot of pain.
52:27I think there's a lot of things we've done to hurt each other.
52:29It doesn't have to be this way.
52:31Her plane leaves in an hour.
52:32Maybe there's a chance that she just ends up choosing me at the end.
52:36Can you just admit that you still love me?
52:42Wait, where's Taylor?
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