Κλιμάκωση στη Μέση Ανατολή: πόλεμος της Ευρώπης; Αντιπαράθεση ευρωβουλευτών στο The Ring

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01:32Μπορείς να επιλογήσεις να παρακολουθήσεις τώρα να σημαίνει να διατυπηθείς από την εξήμενη ενδιαφέραση,

01:36τι τρόπο θα χρησιμοποιήσεις να διατηρήσεις ευρώπους και να δυνατοιχείς να διατηρήσεις στις εξήμερες εξήμερες.

01:48Αυτή είναι η ερώτηση που έχουμε για τους συγκεκριμένους.

01:51Οι συγκεκριμένες.

01:53Οι συγκεκριμένες της Ελλάδας, η δημοσιογένει με την Λεφτ.

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08:54που ήταν από την οικογένεια της οικογένειας,

08:56είχε το δύσκολο δίσκολο που Ισραή είναι για μας.

09:01Και θέλω να πω, τι είναι αυτό.

09:03Και θέλω να πω,

09:04γιατί η Ευρωπαϊκή Ένωση είναι τόσο βοκλή

09:07όταν στις δύσκολες της Λουρανίας,

09:08αλλά και όταν στις δύσκολες της.

09:10Γιατί η Λουρανία είναι στην Ευρώπη.

09:13Και αυτό είναι η μεγάλη σκένεια και η μεγάλη στρατηριά.

09:17Και πιστεύω ότι η Λουρανία

09:20αντιμετωπίζει το φόκος από τα παιδιά που θέλουν

09:24στις δύσκολες στη Λουρανία, κάθε μέρα.

09:26Αλλά υπάρχουν περισσότερες δύσκολες σε Λουρανία.

09:29Η Ευρωπαϊκή Ένωση είναι σκέντρα για αυτήν την κρίση της ευρωπαϊκής.

09:32Υπάρχει αυτό, αλλά ποιο είναι η Ευρωπαϊκή ένωση.

09:37Γιατί δεν υπάρχει η Λουρανία να μιλήσει να μιλήσει να μιλήσει να μιλήσει να μιλήσει.

09:41Και πιστεύω ότι η διπλόμασία έχει μόνο στους δύσκολες

09:45αν είναι υποσχευμένος από την εξαρτητή, την εξαρτητή και την εξαρτητή.

09:51Βάχνει στην Λουρανία. Οι ευρωπαϊκές οίδες δεν είναι η Λουρανία,

09:54αλλά αυτό το βάζει να μιλήσει όμως, όμως.

09:56Ποιος πιστεύεις για αυτό?

09:58Δεν είναι η Λουρανία της Ευρωπαϊκής Ένωσης.

10:00Είναι πιστεύτε.

10:01Πρέπει να αφηθούν να αφηθούν να αφηθούν οι εξαρτητές της Ευρώπης.

10:06Η Ευρώπη μας έχει δείξει πώς αυτό μπορεί να δείξει.

10:09και πρέπει να μην προσθέτει στους εξαρτητές του Ισραή και του Υσού.

10:14Είναι εξαιρετικότητα που πρέπει να μιλήσει την Ευρωπαϊκή Ένωση.

10:16Υπότιτλοι AUTHORWAVE, ο Υπονείς της Ευρωπαϊκής Ένωσης,

10:19επίσης του πράγματος του Υπήρου Υπήρου της ευρωπαϊκής Ένωσης.

10:21Και τον τρόπο του Υπήρου Υπήρου της εξαρτητής της Ευρωπαϊκής Ένωσης.

10:34όλα αυτά που δίνει να δείξει πιερικές Ένωσης του Υπήρου της Ευρωπαϊκής Ένωσης.

10:37ας πώς αυτό το Υπήρου της Ευρώπης Ένωσης.

10:40Οκέντε, Υπήρου της ευρωπαϊκής Ένωσης.

10:47And he wants us to take by piece of piece, and that is exactly what Sanchez has achieved by acting

10:54alone.

10:55Okay, we're getting just warmed up here, but it's time to take a very short break.

11:03Because now it's time for our viewers to get a real flavour of the Parliament Chamber,

11:07where MEPs ask direct questions to each other.

11:10And sometimes, as you can see, it does get heated.

11:13Ladies first, Oslo.

11:14Okay, I want to hear from your side.

11:17What is your solution for this war?

11:20Does the European Union not have any instruments to stop this war?

11:25Or are you against stopping this war?

11:27If you mean the war in Iran, then I don't think Europe has to do the instruments,

11:32because we are not strong enough to sit at the table.

11:35We can try to use our diplomatic means, but nobody listens to us.

11:40That means that we need to work on our own capabilities, on our own strengths.

11:48And even the economy is not anymore the strengths of Europe, because we are not unified enough.

11:55Now, your opportunity to ask a question now to Oslo.

11:58We have seen wars emerge around us.

12:04Europe has not launched any wars.

12:06Europe has not, in the last, like, 70 years, not been part to a war itself.

12:12But we see others attacking European countries around us.

12:15Do you think that Europe can solve these problems diplomatically?

12:19Or do we need military means to back up our diplomatic efforts?

12:25And if not, what is the other way?

12:27To be honest, yes, the European Union, as the European Union, didn't launch wars.

12:33But European member states were also, in the past, part of wars.

12:38Like we saw in Afghanistan, like we saw in Iraq, like we saw in Libya.

12:44It was not, UK is not anymore European Union, but it was also European countries.

12:50So it's not true that the European Union, in the past, was just standing for diplomacy and against wars in

12:56this world.

12:57So if we want to answer the times of wars, we have to go back and to stop about talking

13:03just about militarization.

13:05Do you know the definition of a dialogue?

13:08Yes, sure.

13:08Yeah, that means that it needs two parts to what who want to discuss, to talk to each other.

13:13If one side wants to talk and the other one is not.

13:16And I have been experiencing myself trying to reach out to Russian chief of defense, as I was chief of

13:22defense.

13:22And the response was, why?

13:24Nobody wants to talk to us.

13:26And not the dictator Putin, not Chairman Xi, they don't care.

13:31And as long as we are weak, we are not at the table.

13:35And the dialogue needs two sides.

13:38And if Russia understands only military means, and they did not use diplomacy against Ukraine.

13:44Maybe a reaction on them to that.

13:45I don't know what you mean with weak.

13:48European Union is one of the huge or one of the biggest economic powers of the world.

13:53And also the European member states has a lot of military instruments, and we are spending a lot of money

13:59for military means.

14:01So it's like this.

14:03The facts are on the table.

14:04So don't tell just we are like this or we are like this.

14:08What is happening by now is that the European Union also decided, like the U.S., like China, like other

14:15big powers in this world,

14:16that they want to defend its own interests, and this means resources of the world, trade routes of the world,

14:22by military means.

14:24And what this means is that people are dying, that the working class all over the world is paying the

14:30bill for it.

14:31And this is not acceptable.

14:32This is why I'm rejecting this military means.

14:35And I'm saying we have to find another way to protect lives, to protect our earth.

14:41There are certain things we cannot do yet that still responds to what we can or cannot do.

14:46So we need to invest commonly together to a drone defense because we have seen a new weapon developing a

14:56disruptive technology which has been used in Ukraine and kills people.

15:00We need, for example, to invest in this kind of technologies in order to make sure that our people are

15:06defended and they are not dying.

15:09Let me say clearly, it's not a solution for nobody to prolong wars.

15:15And it's also like this, that not just Putin said, I don't want to negotiate.

15:19It was also like this, that the Western countries long, long time said, we had no possibilities to negotiate.

15:24We don't want to negotiate.

15:26And this was prolonging this war.

15:30And the result of this war is not good for the Ukrainian people.

15:34So let me say this.

15:36You are from the EPP and you are standing for a conservative politics.

15:40You are in the last weeks.

15:42Your group has really weakened the right of asylum in European Union systems.

15:49And it's like this, that the war in Iran also has the result that people had to flee, that they

15:56become refugees.

15:57And maybe they want to come here.

15:59What is your answer?

16:00Why are you supporting wars or not rejecting wars, not doing everything to stop wars,

16:05and on the other side working against people who are affected by these wars and become refugees?

16:10What is your answer on that?

16:11May I start with saying EPP is not launching wars, is not causing wars.

16:16And the only thing EPP stands for is to defend people against the wars which are around us.

16:22Be it an Iran regime which has been killing, torturing people 47 years.

16:31Or be it Russia, who has never listened to anybody who launched wars since 2008.

16:37Milit, whose political aims are, who wants to achieve its political aims by military means.

16:44And just on the potential refugee ways.

16:47Yeah, yeah, I'll come back to that.

16:48And so that is not what we want.

16:50And we want European people to live safely in Europe.

16:55But we are ready to take refugees, but we don't want to have illegal refugees.

17:01We don't want to have economical refugees.

17:04We want to know who is living in Europe and who is not.

17:08And that's what we stand for.

17:09But nowadays we have deportations to Syria, for example, where the war is still not going.

17:15And that is, of course, we have deportations to Iran.

17:18We have deportations to Afghanistan.

17:19They are not deportations because it's about people who are illegally in Europe.

17:23And that is a debate for another day.

17:25But we have heard the views from our MEPs.

17:27And now I would like to bring in another argument.

17:33It is the voice of the U.S. ambassador to the European Union.

17:37That is Andrew Puzder.

17:38He spoke to me earlier this week on Europe Today, Euronews' morning show.

17:43And he encouraged members of the European Parliament here to ratify the Turnberry EU-U.S. trade deal,

17:48saying that it would be an economic malpractice not to pass this deal,

17:52that the U.S. is not an obstacle.

17:55Puzder also described it as a great deal for the United States and the European Union.

17:59So I'm curious to hear your thoughts on what the ambassador Puzder said about this deal,

18:03the fact that the European Parliament should push ahead and ratify it.

18:06that the European Parliament should defend the European people's interest.

18:11And therefore, the Commission has worked out the deal.

18:14It is not an ideal deal, but we have to find the minimum common denominator with the U.S.

18:23and find the ways.

18:24We have to deal with the U.S.

18:26We have to.

18:26and the current administration is not per Europe.

18:30The interest is not being European.

18:31They defend their people.

18:33So our task is to defend our people.

18:35And trade with the U.S. is needed, necessary and good for our businesses and people.

18:40Because just remember that deal triples tariffs on European goods

18:44while cutting duties on U.S. industrial goods down to zero.

18:47And of course, it was harshly criticised for months as too favourable to the Trump administration.

18:52What is your view here on what Andrew Puzder said to us earlier this week here on U.S.?

18:55I think we should have a clearer talk to the U.S.

18:58And if it's about defending the interests of the European people,

19:01we should have a clear politic that rejected what Donald Trump is by now doing.

19:06It should reject the war in Iran.

19:09Clearly, it should reject the politics of America, who is saying America first and dealing with a lot of wars.

19:15It's not just Iran, it's also Venezuela, it's also Cuba, it's also other countries who are now affected badly.

19:22And so we should have our own politics, which is really taking in mind what the people of Europe need.

19:28And the people of Europe need especially social security systems.

19:33They need a cap for energy prices.

19:35They need affordable housing and stuff like this.

19:38And the European Union is not doing anything or not enough in this part.

19:42And we'll come back to that point on consumers in just one minute.

19:45But now it is time to take a very short break here on The Ring.

19:49But stay with us because we'll be back very soon with some more political punch from the European Parliament.

20:01Welcome back to The Ring, Euronews' weekly debate show here in the European Parliament in Brussels.

20:07For this edition, I'm joined by MEP's Rio Terrace and Oslim de Mirel.

20:12And the idea here is to bring the European Parliament debate to your very sofa.

20:16This week, we're focusing on how the European Union and its leaders are reacting to the ongoing war in Iran.

20:22A war that's directly impacting me and you, whether you're based in Kenya, Kerala or Kerry.

20:27Now, we wanted to hear from you.

20:29So we actually took to the streets of Brussels to hear how this war is affecting your daily life.

20:35It has affected a lot of travel.

20:37I know that for sure.

20:38And the economy in Greece, we have a lot of cancellations and it has impacted tourism as well.

20:44So there's definitely an economic impact in our country.

20:47I'm sure that everyone in the European Union will feel the impact.

20:52Everything, everything, food, services, gas for sure.

20:57Probably also things like heating.

21:00I mean, it's energy.

21:02Everyone uses it.

21:03Everyone needs it.

21:04And I find it pretty crazy that the decision of two countries to go to war against Iran has such

21:12an impact on pretty much everyone.

21:14Not anxious, but definitely will hit.

21:18But I already implement some energy-saving measures.

21:22So I hope this won't hit me hard.

21:24So Rio Terras there, impacting everyone.

21:28Your reaction?

21:29Absolutely.

21:30And that only shows that Europe needs to become more independent from the energy sources.

21:35And I think we should go back to the nuclear energy, which gives us the autonomy if we need it.

21:42Would you agree with that?

21:44No, I don't think that the nuclear energy is an energy system for the future.

21:49But what we have to do is to build up the renewable energy systems.

21:54And the European Union has slept a long, long time and have forgotten to do this.

21:59And as we all know, nuclear takes years, right?

22:01It takes years.

22:02Well, there's the small modular reactors, but they're also just being tested out.

22:05But just back to measures for Europeans.

22:08Now, today, we've seen Pedro Sánchez, Spanish Prime Minister, propose a 5 billion euro package to help consumers.

22:15Is that a good idea, Rio Terras?

22:17To help in the difficult situation, this is a good idea.

22:21If it's not the populism before the elections, I think we need to make an economy stronger.

22:27And the economy depends on the energy, for example.

22:31So we need really to take very various packages.

22:36And I don't think that the renewable energy is something bad.

22:40But as we saw this winter in Estonia, the renewable energy does not help us in the situation where there

22:48is no wind and no sun.

22:50And no batteries to restore it.

22:54So we need sources which give energy on that moment.

22:58So we need to have a diversified package of energy and focus on that to make European economy more competitive,

23:06especially in the times of war.

23:07Just one sentence about the social impacts and energy impacts of this war.

23:14We had it also by the war in Ukraine.

23:16We had it in the corona pandemic.

23:18We had a situation that really some companies are earning a lot of money.

23:23And this is also by now the fact that oil companies are having real big profits by now because they

23:30are using this crisis every time.

23:33And the people are in a real bad situation.

23:36They have to decide if they buy food or if they fill their tank for the car to go to

23:41the work.

23:41So this is not acceptable.

23:42So I think it's not just a good idea to have packages to protect our people.

23:48It's necessary that we do it.

23:49And it's necessary that we cut the extra benefits, the extra profits from the companies.

23:56They have a lot of benefits.

23:57Should EU leaders be gathering and discussing this necessity?

24:00You are not able to distribute the wealth if there is no wealth.

24:04So market economy says you can only distribute something which exists.

24:09And to have a profit is nothing bad and evil.

24:12The profits and good tax profits are exactly what brings us ahead and gives our economy a stronger stand and

24:22the country's strongest situation.

24:23And I think the European Union need to gather together and find the solution for our, first of all, for

24:30our competitiveness in our current world.

24:32But the big companies have a lot of money and they are richer than they had been ever before.

24:38We have more money in the European Union than we had before.

24:40This is fact.

24:41What we have is that the middle stand, middle classes and the poor people are not anymore able to finance

24:48their life.

24:49And this is a problem.

24:50So we have to talk about the extra rich part of this region.

24:55We have a lot of millionaires, billionaires earning more money in this crisis.

25:00This is not acceptable.

25:01I'm sorry.

25:01I have lived in communism where the distribution of the wealth was done without having rich and poor.

25:08And that was evil.

25:09That was the worst time of my life.

25:11I don't want to come back.

25:12Look, you can't, you can't just come with buzzwords like communism, stuff like this.

25:16I've lived there and you have not.

25:18The people of Europe, they are realizing that that what we are living in now is no perspective for them.

25:26It is rising war.

25:27Living standard in Europe is the highest in the world.

25:29And we need answers for the people.

25:31And you can't, you can't just put the real demands of the people away and just talking about communism.

25:37I'm not talking about communism.

25:39I'm talking about security for the people of Europe.

25:43So that's the views from our MEPs.

25:44We would love to hear as well your view here.

25:47Join our debate.

25:48The ring at yournews.com.

25:50That is our email address.

25:51So please reach out.

25:52But it is now time to move on to our fifth and final round.

25:55Are you ready?

26:00So now it is time for something a little bit different.

26:02I'm going to be asking our MEPs a set of questions.

26:06and you only have the opportunity to answer with yes or no.

26:11So was it a good idea to kill the Supreme Leader, Ali Khamenei?

26:15Yes or no?

26:17I don't like him, but I don't think that it's illegal and it shouldn't be.

26:22Was it a good idea?

26:23Yes or no?

26:24Yes.

26:25Is the U.S. still a friend to the European Union?

26:28Yes or no?

26:28Yes.

26:29The U.S. people, yes.

26:31Trump, no.

26:32Should the EU be more involved in this war?

26:34Yes or no?

26:35Clearly no.

26:37Yes.

26:38And should European countries increase defence spending?

26:40Yes or no?

26:41Yes.

26:42No.

26:43Should Europe focus on renewable energy?

26:46Yes or no?

26:47Yes.

26:48And manage a mix.

26:50And should NATO be involved if the conflict expands?

26:53Yes or no?

26:55No.

26:55No, I'm against NATO also.

26:58And just a question on European governments.

27:00Should European governments be subsidising energy costs today now to protect consumers?

27:04Yes or no?

27:05Yes.

27:06And is Iran a direct threat to European security?

27:10No.

27:11Yes, and it has always been.

27:13Okay, and have you agreed on anything that you've heard here?

27:19And what about you?

27:20Have you agreed?

27:21I agree that the renewable energy is a part of the energy mix.

27:25Great.

27:25Well, I think we've given our viewers a perfect flavour of how you actually interact right

27:29here in the Parliament.

27:30So thank you so much to you both for being with us here.

27:33That does bring this edition of The Ring to an end.

27:35And as I said, TheRing at Euronews.com.

27:37That is our email address.

27:39Please reach out.

27:39Thank you so much again.

27:40Take care and see you soon on Euronews.

27:42The Ring to an End.

27:46The Ring to an End.

27:52Thank you.

27:53Thank you.

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