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Este video captura una entrevista a Fabio Zerpa en el programa "El Show de la Mañana" (Córdoba, Argentina) con motivo del lanzamiento de su libro "Ovnis y ciudades intraterrenas" en diciembre de 2011.
Los puntos clave de su intervención incluyen:
- Ciudades Intraterrenas: Zerpa sostiene que existen civilizaciones avanzadas viviendo en el interior de la Tierra, mencionando lugares icónicos como el Cerro Uritorco (Capilla del Monte) y la Cueva de los Tayos (Ecuador).
- Origen de los OVNIs: Plantea que no todos los avistamientos provienen del espacio exterior; muchos serían naves que emergen de estas bases subterráneas o intraterrenas.
- Postura ante la crítica: Con décadas de trayectoria, afirma que no le teme al escepticismo, siempre que el debate sea respetuoso y basado en la investigación.
- Evolución del fenómeno: Explica que el contacto con estas entidades ha pasado de ser algo físico a algo más espiritual o de "conciencia".
El programa de televisión se llamaba El Show de la Mañana, conducido por Aldo "Lagarto" Guizzardi y fue emitido por Canal 12 de Córdoba, Argentina (El Doce).
Los puntos clave de su intervención incluyen:
- Ciudades Intraterrenas: Zerpa sostiene que existen civilizaciones avanzadas viviendo en el interior de la Tierra, mencionando lugares icónicos como el Cerro Uritorco (Capilla del Monte) y la Cueva de los Tayos (Ecuador).
- Origen de los OVNIs: Plantea que no todos los avistamientos provienen del espacio exterior; muchos serían naves que emergen de estas bases subterráneas o intraterrenas.
- Postura ante la crítica: Con décadas de trayectoria, afirma que no le teme al escepticismo, siempre que el debate sea respetuoso y basado en la investigación.
- Evolución del fenómeno: Explica que el contacto con estas entidades ha pasado de ser algo físico a algo más espiritual o de "conciencia".
El programa de televisión se llamaba El Show de la Mañana, conducido por Aldo "Lagarto" Guizzardi y fue emitido por Canal 12 de Córdoba, Argentina (El Doce).
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00:00Fabio Serpa, UFOs and Inner Earth Cities, Research and Truth.
00:07What will Fabio Serpa bring with this new book?
00:10Well, how are you doing, Fabio? Good day.
00:12Hi, how are you?
00:12Good day.
00:13It's great to see you again.
00:14Likewise.
00:15And to be back in Córdoba because I'm fulfilling my commitment; yesterday they gave me a beautiful tribute in Capilla del Monte.
00:23It's been 40 years since the first lecture I gave on all of this,
00:28which is Cerro Oritorco and the Triangle of Force of Cordoba and I turned 83 years old.
00:33Yesterday was truly exciting.
00:36And for me it's a... that November 11th, for example, the famous 11-11-11,
00:42If 10,000 people went to Capilla del Monte, they're paying me a wonderful tribute.
00:48because nobody accepted this whole thing about Oritorco and the Triangle of Force at one time.
00:54Finally I remembered my friend, and what a wonderful man from Córdoba he is, Dr. Guillermo Alfredo Terrera,
01:02who was with me there permanently, even though he was no longer in physical shape.
01:06And then also, I don't know, in Capilla del Monte, I also remembered, I'm very much a tango lover
01:12and I am fortunate to belong to the National Tango Academy.
01:15And there lived the female character who made the most wonderful love story in tango,
01:23who was Grisel, Susana Grisel Viganó, who inspired that wonderful poet,
01:29great journalist, José María Contursi, Catunga Contursi,
01:33who dedicated a number of tangos to me every time you remember me, on this gray, crystal afternoon,
01:38because they didn't consummate their love until later, when Catunga became a widower,
01:43She went to find him in Buenos Aires and they eventually got married.
01:47He won through persistence.
01:49Exactly.
01:50And she, of course, this descendant, won Vasco and also her German mother,
01:55She was very thin and very beautiful, enormously beautiful.
01:57Now, Fabio, you already, in this, from what I read, I haven't read the book,
02:02But judging by the title, it doesn't just take on those at the top, but also those at the bottom.
02:05Of course, they are still extraterrestrials, because extraterrestrial doesn't mean they are Martians or Jupiterians.
02:10but rather it is extraterrestrial, beyond the earthly realm, beyond our knowledge,
02:14outside of our culture, outside of our knowledge.
02:18And it was a topic, I still think it's a topic that is sometimes enormously absurd.
02:22It started 45 years ago, when I first went to Easter Island,
02:26and an Easter Island native; I was already a history teacher and was studying anthropology,
02:32He told me back in '66 that the Andes mountain range was hollow.
02:36It was as if he, an Easter Islander, was drinking pisco and eating fish,
02:41I thought to myself, what is this drunken Indian saying to me?
02:46Sure, but I never said no or yes.
02:51I sometimes criticize my university classmates for sometimes saying no.
02:55All this issue of esotericism, of heterodoxy, which has as much value as orthodoxy,
03:01the academic, the cultural value.
03:03I will always die, and I am proud to be a university student.
03:07But I have been open-minded enough to understand other things that are just as valid.
03:12such as the academic and the cultural.
03:14And I started to investigate, I didn't say no to the Easter Islander, for me it was enormously important.
03:20And I found myself—and I'll summarize it for you because it's about 300 pages long—
03:26I found myself in the investigation, and I do it as always, I take the bull by the horns like a good Sagittarian,
03:31And in the first chapter I say, the evidence speaks for itself.
03:34And do you know what I found?
03:35Scientists who have addressed the topic at different times and at different levels,
03:41I don't want to overwhelm you, I'll give you just one.
03:46Edmund Halley, a member of the British Crown,
03:50It wasn't Juan Fernández, Manuela Rodríguez, without meaning any disrespect to Juan Fernández and Manuela Rodríguez,
03:55He was truly a member of the British Crown and the discoverer of Halley's Comet.
04:01What do you know about what it said in the 16th century, in 1640?
04:06That the earth was like matryoshka dolls, the inner life.
04:13Sure, listen, this guy's right, because there was a book that became really popular,
04:19who was The Hollow Earth, whom I knew, Ramon Barnard,
04:22And he was wrong in thinking that the earth is like a, let's say,
04:27a peach that has its pit removed from inside, and that's not how it is.
04:30Do you know how this behaves? Like a Gruyere cheese, let's say.
04:35and they work a lot in the invisible realm, with the invisibility of all this,
04:41that is so dominated by extraterrestrials.
04:43Furthermore, we even called it Noah's Ark,
04:46And we always symbolize it, and they have looked for it in different places,
04:50even on Mount Ararat and all that, and it doesn't exist, Noah's Ark doesn't exist.
04:54It's Noah's Ark.
04:56You know what? The Noahs, who don't only exist in our Western culture,
05:00but for all the mythologies of different cultures,
05:05The Ark takes refuge in the Noahs, with all the animals inside the Earth.
05:11They were extraterrestrials, let's say, and they have a lot of contact with extraterrestrials.
05:18I'll tell you more, an ITT engineer, back in the 70s,
05:24who told the extraterrestrials that they had to make contact at the Guatavita Lagoon,
05:27there in Colombia,
05:30It was discovered that the Guatavita Lagoon, whose bottom was never found,
05:36Nor when he had, he already had, here, do you remember?
05:39It already cost.
05:39The famous, legendary Nahuelito is also absent from Nahuel Guapi.
05:44And that's where the bottom was never found.
05:46And they are possibilities of gateways to the underworld.
05:49This man, an engineer at ITT, was not just anyone,
05:55Two ships emerge from inside the Guatavita Lagoon, dripping water.
06:00and they were beings from the Pleiades.
06:03When he told me, and the time came,
06:05And I investigated it in Mexico and also in Colombia,
06:08which was where Enrique was being transferred,
06:11I told him, look, I'm going to investigate you through the Pleiades,
06:15It is 400 light-years from planet Earth.
06:19But it's our physics, our relative knowledge,
06:24We have to remember that sometimes we become so absolute in our knowledge,
06:29And there was a genius, in 1904, who said that everything was relative.
06:34The famous "seeing is believing" of Saint Thomas,
06:37He died with Einstein and with Max Planck and with the quantum physicists.
06:40We only see the first octave of colors,
06:44We don't see what gamma rays now reveal,
06:47infrared rays, ultraviolet rays.
06:50We also talked about it; I had a phone conversation with them the other day.
06:52on a radio station in Buenos Aires with a quantum engineer,
06:59which is one of the components of the famous God machine,
07:02a talent, when they asked him if Fabio Serpa was here on the floor,
07:07Oh! Professor Serpa, when I was a teenager,
07:10I saw it in Madrid with the documentaries about extraterrestrial life,
07:13and he is one of the top quantum physicists,
07:17who have become enormously theistic,
07:19Because, do you know what happened to me too?
07:23You start investigating, and there's someone who's organizing all of this,
07:27as this also orders.
07:28That's why I titled it "Research and Truth".
07:32Here, everything is about research.
07:34Professor, how have you dealt with skepticism?
07:36Professor, how have you dealt with skepticism?
07:40And do you know why?
07:43I conjugate what the Greeks did,
07:45With the truth I neither offend nor fear.
07:48When I have a truth, and in my case,
07:51I am of German, Austrian, and Basque descent.
07:54from an aristocratic family over in Uruguay,
07:57I was poorly positioned for this whole issue,
08:00But truly, when I have a truth,
08:05And when I have...
08:07The first one who has to convince me about the topics is me, okay?
08:10And I'm hard to convince, you know?
08:12And when I have that conviction, I tell it to my fellow human being.
08:16And then, you know what?
08:18With the truth I neither offend nor fear.
08:20I'm not afraid of offending you if I'm telling you the truth.
08:23And fundamentally, I am not afraid of you.
08:26Does he mind the criticism or the people who don't believe him?
08:28No, welcome, as long as it's dialogue, okay?
08:31Clear.
08:31I have sometimes let go a little, sometimes,
08:34the controversy over the controversy that there in Buenos Aires
08:36It's used so much with this, sorry, huh?
08:39With this really cheap TV we have, huh?
08:42This Tinelli-ization that exists on television, unfortunately,
08:46This is going to reach a peak and it's going to change.
08:48It has to change.
08:52Honestly, I've left the controversy behind.
08:54Because it doesn't work, you have to inform people
08:59And I don't want to convince you,
09:01I don't want to convince Aldo either.
09:04Nor do I want to convince these beautiful green eyes,
09:07And it's so hot in Córdoba, huh?
09:10Of course.
09:11Come here, come here.
09:12Well, my wife's around, so she's the one in charge, huh?
09:16Well, she's one of them, her last name is Ferreira,
09:20his before...
09:20In the town of Ferreira, of course.
09:23So, it's a bit like something from Córdoba.
09:25This, because I'm not afraid of you,
09:29And I remove these bars that we have had for 2,600 years,
09:33and the worst bars that a human being has.
09:37that do not allow him to have spiritual security,
09:39Don't be afraid, the aliens,
09:41They've been telling me that for 40 years, and I always hear it.
09:44What I was going to say was, don't be afraid, don't be afraid,
09:47I thought, of course, that I would see a strange being,
09:49Seeing a strange device, no, it's much more significant,
09:52is sayable to earthly humans,
09:54that they should not be afraid.
09:57This one, who is the greatest among the great,
10:00It gives us the freedom to have freedom.
10:04and make our destiny, our causality.
10:06And do you know when our freedom ends?
10:09When does her, his, and his freedom begin?
10:12And to have respect.
10:15This is the key word.
10:17I sometimes see it, even in Buenos Aires traffic.
10:20which is so awful and all,
10:23And do you know what it is?
10:24We are disrespectful.
10:25When they pull you over, you see, at the red light,
10:28and then they push the car forward,
10:30He's already disrespecting her.
10:31I'm first, okay?
10:32He is disrespecting her.
10:34Do you believe that inside the Earth,
10:36That's what I think he's suggesting in the book.
10:38that inside the Earth of the globe,
10:40Are there other types of life inside?
10:43Exactly, absolutely.
10:44And what kind of life is there inside?
10:46What do you imagine?
10:48I want you to buy the book and read it.
10:49But tell us a little bit more.
10:52So, down here, below the floor,
10:54There is life inside the Earth.
10:55On the last page, you know what I say too?
10:57Because sometimes I put myself in the reader's shoes
10:59and I try to have an objective mind.
11:01We Latinos are sometimes very subjective,
11:04And we get into trouble.
11:05And I always say that there are no problems, there are solutions.
11:09There are no problems, there are solutions.
11:11And I've had so many barriers in my life,
11:14And I've put on a smile a lot sometimes.
11:16that the aborigines and the orientals have.
11:19When you don't understand what you're doing,
11:21me too,
11:23Sure, well, your turn will come.
11:25You'll understand, you see?
11:26The Japanese are great and all that.
11:28Well, the Japanese are tougher, maybe.
11:30And I said, I will see the corpse of my enemy pass by.
11:33through my front door.
11:35But did you see them?
11:36Have you seen them? Do you see them?
11:38It doesn't matter if Fabio Serpa was the one who saw it.
11:41The good thing is the witnesses,
11:42the scientists,
11:44theologians who address this topic.
11:47The amount of evidence speaks for itself.
11:51I was amazed.
11:54The investigations...
11:55I'll give him another character.
11:57that caught my attention so much.
11:59A man from the American Pentagon,
12:03naval officer.
12:06Admiral Richard Bear,
12:09Admiral Richard Evelyn Bear,
12:11moved in 1966
12:13the entire US TAC Force.
12:16What a struggle it must have been to convince them
12:18to his colleagues at the Pentagon
12:20to do that.
12:21And they came and anchored in Valparaíso,
12:25the International Geophysical Year,
12:27to go and investigate
12:28the underground world of the South Pole.
12:32And stop in Valparaíso,
12:34I was in Chile at that time,
12:35and in the newspaper El Mercurio,
12:37very conservative,
12:39He says some things,
12:40Admiral Bear,
12:41that strongly attract your attention,
12:43And it is Admiral Richard Bear.
12:47He's not the kind of guy who...
12:49I, for example,
12:50I have not had any prejudices,
12:52prior judgments,
12:52But I realize...
12:53I brought to Cordoba,
12:54For example,
12:55to Dr. Joseph Allen Hynek,
12:57one of the ten greatest
12:58astronomers of the world,
12:59that was played,
13:01I used to pay him.
13:02to the North American Force
13:03money for this man
13:05of scientific and global prestige
13:07He would speak out against UFOs.
13:09And he was talking about the opposition,
13:10of UFOs,
13:11But he began to investigate UFOs,
13:14and stop the hand,
13:15There's something here,
13:16and he became a great ufologist,
13:19He was president of many congresses,
13:22and Hynek converted from no,
13:26he switched to yes,
13:26when he started investigating.
13:29We need to investigate.
13:30That's why it's research and truth.
13:32Investigation and truth.
13:33Fabio is going to present the book today, right?
13:35Yes, at seven in the evening
13:36in the Emporio bookstore.
13:37In Emporium.
13:38Supposedly the best bookstore in Cordoba.
13:40Come on, DEA, come on.
13:42That is to say,
13:42to know if we have someone underneath
13:44You have to read the book.
13:46You have to read it.
13:47I advise them.
13:48Alright.
13:49Thank you so much.
13:50It has a reception area,
13:51received a month ago
13:52that we released the book,
13:54I've been to the Book Fair
13:55from Mar del Plata,
13:56marvelous,
13:57I've been to Tandil,
13:58I was recently in Capilla del Monte,
14:00And now I've come to Cordoba.
14:01I never forget the people of Cordoba,
14:03Do you know why?
14:04I was telling him that today,
14:05off the microphone.
14:06Fabio Serpa's first success
14:08in the year 1968
14:09It was here,
14:10in this city,
14:12before Buenos Aires
14:13and before the world
14:15and then he traveled the world.
14:16A short one,
14:17Can I ask him?
14:18if that's true
14:19that there is extraterrestrial life,
14:21that there are extraterrestrials
14:22among us
14:22and that we don't see them.
14:23And the possibility exists,
14:25pretty,
14:25Do you know why?
14:26Because they have a certain shape
14:27anthropomorphic.
14:28In a study
14:28which was called
14:29of the typology of extraterrestrial beings,
14:31I did it with the doctor
14:32Heine,
14:32with Dr. Valé,
14:33from NASA,
14:34with Dr. Walter Buehler,
14:36all types
14:37that we have studied
14:38to the people
14:39that sends us
14:39the contacts
14:40from the third,
14:40of the fourth
14:41and of the fifth kind,
14:42They are all beings
14:43like us.
14:44A head,
14:45two shoulders,
14:46two arms
14:47and they can walk
14:48whatever
14:49along the pedestrian walkway
14:49from Córdoba
14:51and they can pass
14:51unnoticed
14:52perfectly.
14:53because it is not
14:54the kingdom
14:55science fiction
14:56which are lizards,
14:57which are lizards,
14:57which are lizards,
14:57sorry.
14:58No, no, no,
14:58also.
15:00I,
15:00but a little bit
15:01with that bald head
15:02and all,
15:02I don't know,
15:03I don't know,
15:04Oh no,
15:04No,
15:05No,
15:05No,
15:06No,
15:08another very good thing
15:09scary,
15:10Be more afraid of him
15:11to the landlubbers
15:12than to extraterrestrials,
15:14Use logic,
15:16I am 53 years old
15:18research,
15:19but in the 60 years
15:21who studies,
15:21with technology
15:23that they have,
15:24We have never been invaded,
15:26but if we put
15:27pilot
15:28extraterrestrial
15:28to George Bush,
15:29What's up?
15:30We're done with Guantanamo.
15:32Well,
15:32thank you so much.
15:33All the best to you,
15:34thank you.
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