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Invitados principales y sus aportes clave:
- Fabio Zerpa: Investigador pionero de la ufología en Argentina y Uruguay. Cuenta su avistamiento personal en 1959 sobre Morón (Buenos Aires), que marcó su vida. Menciona investigaciones desde 1968, amigos famosos como Alfredo Alcón, y defiende que los extraterrestres promueven paz y que "Dios es extraterrestre". Voz más experimentada y "clásica" del tema en la mesa.
- Carlos Perciavalle: Actor y comediante uruguayo, muy carismático y expresivo. Relata varias experiencias impactantes: una nave en forma de cigarro sobre La Pampa en 1993, un ser alto con traje plateado en Punta del Este, sueños de contacto, marcas en su casa y un "accidente" interpretado como advertencia ET. Afirma que los seres son benevolentes, le ayudaron a dejar drogas y pastillas, y transformaron positivamente su vida.
- Dr. Antonio Las Heras: Investigador académico (Doctor en Psicología Social, Magíster en Psicoanálisis, Licenciado en Periodismo). Presenta su libro "OVNIs: Documentos de los Astronautas". Define OVNIs como naves pilotadas por seres inteligentes, cita evidencia oficial y menciona encuentros de tercer tipo (visión directa de entidades), como casos de Eduardo Squirru y su hija Ludovica. Aporta el enfoque más racional y documentado de la mesa.
- Dante Franch: Investigador, contactado y autor de múltiples libros sobre ovnilogía y contacto extraterrestre. Relata su experiencia clave de 1986 en el Cerro Uritorco (Córdoba), donde coordinó un encuentro masivo con una nave enorme (115 x 95 metros, según él), por telepatía (coordenadas y fecha dadas por ET). Muestra fotos de naves y seres humanoides (ambos sexos, alturas de 1.40 a 4.50 m, trajes ajustados). Describe a los extraterrestres como evolucionados y benevolentes, con mensajes de paz y evolución espiritual. Contactos desde la infancia y énfasis en el "plan cósmico".
- Jorge Mayorano — Enfoque más espiritual y esotérico. Relaciona los OVNIs con "ángeles caídos", mitos sumerios/mayas/bíblicos, evolución de materia a energía pura, y muestra fotos antiguas (cuevas rusas de 10.000 años con dibujos de cascos y naves). Ve el fenómeno como un impacto en la conciencia humana.
Temas y anécdotas destacadas:
- Caso reciente (solo 20 días antes): En San Carlos de Bariloche, dos hombres perseguidos por cuatro naves pequeñas y una mayor que emitieron rayos de luz, dejando marcas en el suelo en forma de herradura (44 metros). Clasificado como encuentro de segundo tipo (evidencia física). Proyectan fotos y videos en el programa.
- Discusiones sobre contactos telepáticos, encuentros de tercer tipo, y la idea de que los ET son positivos y guían a la humanidad.
- Referencias a historia antigua (pinturas rupestres de 10.000 años en Rusia con cascos y OVNIs, textos sumerios, interpretaciones bíblicas de ángeles como posibles extraterrestres).
- Crítica a la negación gubernamental y científica.
- Fabio Zerpa: Investigador pionero de la ufología en Argentina y Uruguay. Cuenta su avistamiento personal en 1959 sobre Morón (Buenos Aires), que marcó su vida. Menciona investigaciones desde 1968, amigos famosos como Alfredo Alcón, y defiende que los extraterrestres promueven paz y que "Dios es extraterrestre". Voz más experimentada y "clásica" del tema en la mesa.
- Carlos Perciavalle: Actor y comediante uruguayo, muy carismático y expresivo. Relata varias experiencias impactantes: una nave en forma de cigarro sobre La Pampa en 1993, un ser alto con traje plateado en Punta del Este, sueños de contacto, marcas en su casa y un "accidente" interpretado como advertencia ET. Afirma que los seres son benevolentes, le ayudaron a dejar drogas y pastillas, y transformaron positivamente su vida.
- Dr. Antonio Las Heras: Investigador académico (Doctor en Psicología Social, Magíster en Psicoanálisis, Licenciado en Periodismo). Presenta su libro "OVNIs: Documentos de los Astronautas". Define OVNIs como naves pilotadas por seres inteligentes, cita evidencia oficial y menciona encuentros de tercer tipo (visión directa de entidades), como casos de Eduardo Squirru y su hija Ludovica. Aporta el enfoque más racional y documentado de la mesa.
- Dante Franch: Investigador, contactado y autor de múltiples libros sobre ovnilogía y contacto extraterrestre. Relata su experiencia clave de 1986 en el Cerro Uritorco (Córdoba), donde coordinó un encuentro masivo con una nave enorme (115 x 95 metros, según él), por telepatía (coordenadas y fecha dadas por ET). Muestra fotos de naves y seres humanoides (ambos sexos, alturas de 1.40 a 4.50 m, trajes ajustados). Describe a los extraterrestres como evolucionados y benevolentes, con mensajes de paz y evolución espiritual. Contactos desde la infancia y énfasis en el "plan cósmico".
- Jorge Mayorano — Enfoque más espiritual y esotérico. Relaciona los OVNIs con "ángeles caídos", mitos sumerios/mayas/bíblicos, evolución de materia a energía pura, y muestra fotos antiguas (cuevas rusas de 10.000 años con dibujos de cascos y naves). Ve el fenómeno como un impacto en la conciencia humana.
Temas y anécdotas destacadas:
- Caso reciente (solo 20 días antes): En San Carlos de Bariloche, dos hombres perseguidos por cuatro naves pequeñas y una mayor que emitieron rayos de luz, dejando marcas en el suelo en forma de herradura (44 metros). Clasificado como encuentro de segundo tipo (evidencia física). Proyectan fotos y videos en el programa.
- Discusiones sobre contactos telepáticos, encuentros de tercer tipo, y la idea de que los ET son positivos y guían a la humanidad.
- Referencias a historia antigua (pinturas rupestres de 10.000 años en Rusia con cascos y OVNIs, textos sumerios, interpretaciones bíblicas de ángeles como posibles extraterrestres).
- Crítica a la negación gubernamental y científica.
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00:00Applause!
00:30Just like when Gloria Gaynor sang "The Return"...
00:33How wonderful!
00:33What a wonderful woman, isn't she?
00:35Oh yes, how charming!
00:36I thought she was Puerto Rican because she also spoke Spanish...
00:38Yes, it's so warm.
00:39She is American.
00:40I swear, when these artists I've known for many years come here,
00:44I always think they don't remember you.
00:46And that's who he is, and that's where he came from.
00:48And to my astonishment, he told me yes, well, that he remembered me, which filled me with satisfaction.
00:52So, what's going on with the UFOs? Have any new ones appeared or not?
00:55Yes, yes, well, I brought you here later to discuss a case that happened about 20 days ago in San Carlos.
01:00from Bariloche.
01:01In Bariloche.
01:01In Bicanilleu, yes, a very nice case, very nice.
01:04And then I'm at the Cátulo Castillo Theater.
01:07I've read that some talks are being given.
01:11Exactly, I came and did three presentations last Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday.
01:15And now, well, we had a hit with the public and we're going to do it again.
01:19It's on Bartolomé Mitre, right?
01:20At Bartolomé Mitre, 970.
01:22And you know what...
01:23Was this the boxer's house before?
01:25No, no, no, it's the Retail Employees Union.
01:27Ah, from Commerce.
01:28And it's a lovely room.
01:31Look, I discovered it through my friend Carlos Carella, who are having a great success.
01:35Ah, but it's right here, but it's fantastic.
01:37Of course, Bartolomé Mitre, between Carlos Pellegrini and Zipacha, why not?
01:41And you know what, little one, they, those four monsters, they're doing...
01:44No, the one I'm talking about, there are 1600, yes.
01:45Sure, exactly, exactly, exactly.
01:48You know, these four monsters are having a tremendous success.
01:50But it's huge, with a huge backyard, I don't have to go see it, I promised you guys a while ago
01:55It will take time, but I'm going.
01:56Yes, yes, yes, bring them on the show because they are four monsters.
01:59Ah yes, this Carlitos Gorostiza does an excellent job, as always.
02:03And I'm there on Mondays, Tuesdays, and Wednesdays; I did three shows last week and
02:08Now we're going to repeat, and these are the topics.
02:10Can I take one of these books?
02:12I invite you at eight fifteen.
02:13Today you are at eight fifteen.
02:14Yes, exactly, all three days, Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, eight fifteen.
02:17UFOs exist and they are extraterrestrial.
02:19What's up?
02:21Was there a reflection?
02:21No no?
02:22Yeah.
02:22Keep me here, my dear.
02:23He addressed this topic tomorrow.
02:25Which morning?
02:26Tomorrow this.
02:26The world of past lives.
02:29Also eight fifteen.
02:30Eight and a quarter too.
02:31And the third, the underground kingdom.
02:33The future of humanity and its profound relationship with subterranean and extraterrestrial beings.
02:41Without glasses, read.
02:42But very...
02:43You know I was going to applaud you, little one?
02:45Very good.
02:46Tiny and barely...
02:47Okay, great.
02:47So, are you doing well with this?
02:49Yes, to fortune.
02:51Look, we did these three functions and it worked very well, so we repeated these three functions.
02:55Fabio, have you ever seen a UFO?
02:58Yes, yes, that's why I'm involved in it.
03:00Are you seriously telling me yes?
03:01That is, in 1959, at midday, at this time more or less, a little above Morón.
03:07And that's why my whole structure changed.
03:11I knew that I am a university graduate, I come from a descendant of Germans and Austrians, my family is very orthodox.
03:17And obviously my concept of that, having seen that strange, unusual device, changed my life.
03:25And throughout the 1960s, when Fabio Serpa, actor and theater director, was known...
03:29Of course, because for the people who watch us, well, the newer generations, let's say, they don't know that he has been an actor and
03:35an excellent actor, on the other hand.
03:37You won a very important award at some point.
03:39Twice, he won the award for best actor of the year.
03:41Uh-huh.
03:42But of course, when my face was seen on television and Fabio Serpa was starting to become famous,
03:49Art has given me so many things, and it continues to do so.
03:52Just like your brother and I, we're both film buffs, cinephiles, of course.
03:56And now we have one of our own...
03:57A kiss, José, my dear. Perhaps you're watching me today.
04:00And we have one of our own, a very good friend of Pepe and ours, Salvador Samaritano, who is in black, of course,
04:05also from a film club.
04:06Another film scholar.
04:08Core Cinema.
04:08Yes, core cinema.
04:09And of course, it completely changed my life, because, like I said, when people got to know me through
04:14I was already investigating the matter on television.
04:17until 1968, at a lunch with a lady I love very much, I think that a
04:25sir, to whom I perhaps owe all the popularity I later had with UFOs,
04:29Carlos Estrada and his wife, Erika Balner, were at a table having lunch with the stars at Channel 9, already
04:37you were.
04:39Was the cheerleader directing it?
04:40The joy was already there.
04:42It was already done.
04:43It was already done.
04:45It was so long ago.
04:46Many years.
04:47But doesn't it seem like yesterday?
04:49Yes, I think it's wonderful, too.
04:52The fact that it has endured is already wonderful, isn't it?
04:54Yes, how you've lasted, amazing.
04:56And you know what, Carlitos?
04:57Yes, yes.
04:58I will never forget.
04:59Carlos was there, Erika was there, and I was there, and Carlos said, "Fabio, why don't you tell Chiquita those things?"
05:06things that you tell us?
05:08Because I was talking to Alfredo Balcón, to Negro Carela, to all my friends.
05:12Of course, you came imitated as an actor, of course.
05:14As an actor, exactly.
05:15I remember, at that table they talked about UFOs.
05:17That's where it began.
05:18And do you know who was there?
05:19Dr. Raúl Matera.
05:21You don't say.
05:22With him, he was the one who took a lot of interest, I remember, at that table.
05:26How remarkable.
05:26And we began to investigate together life after '68.
05:29From '68.
05:30That's where Fabio Serpa comes in.
05:32How remarkable.
05:32You.
05:33The culprit.
05:34You are to blame.
05:37The only one.
05:38Well, it will be a very dear friend, actor, director, recently arrived from Uruguay, Mr. Carlos Persia Valle.
05:45Forward.
06:01I totally came in a spaceship.
06:03In a spaceship.
06:04I came in a spaceship.
06:06How delightful.
06:06Did you get a haircut?
06:07I've shaved my head because, as they say in the United States, for grown-ups, hair is a thing of the past.
06:12For men, hair is a thing of the past.
06:14It's over, it's over.
06:15Let me see what you have underneath, New York.
06:18Were you in New York?
06:19I was in New York.
06:20Before I went to New York, I came here to your show.
06:22Yes, yes, how could I forget?
06:23So I'm going to tell you several things.
06:24How lovely this is, beautiful.
06:25Funny, isn't it?
06:26Fun.
06:26And I thought it was a cool look for...
06:28Just what you'd expect.
06:28Let's talk about UFOs.
06:29Look, look, I'm going to tell you.
06:30How is he going to tell you?
06:31Teacher.
06:32Well, no, teacher.
06:33They're cleats, right?
06:34Are they the chords?
06:35Oh, look.
06:36He's from Montevideo, I'm from Rosario, in the department of Colonia.
06:39Ah, from Cologne.
06:39And we adore the same place, which is Maraguna del Sauce and Punta del Estado.
06:43Oh, well, look.
06:43How ugly, right?
06:44What an ugly place.
06:45Yes, it's an ugly place.
06:46Did you know that next to here, next to this Empire State Building, right here, in 1965,
06:52Was there an excellent UFO photo, accepted by the Pentagon itself?
06:57Yeah?
06:58Above New York.
06:58July 5, 1965.
07:01The Empire State Building, a great photo.
07:03Barbarian.
07:03If I knew that date was coming, I would have brought it.
07:05I had brought it with me, but I've already seen some wonderful books you have there.
07:07Well, Carlos, then, we really appreciate you being here today.
07:10He comes, he makes a journey, he makes an effort.
07:12I give it to him especially, I call him to the ship, take him to me when he's little.
07:15Cross to the Río de la Plata.
07:16Thank you so much, my love.
07:17The ship arrives there at Laguna del Sauce.
07:19The ship arrives, it came to pick me up at Laguna del Sauce, it dropped me off here, it comes early.
07:22He comes early.
07:23To prepare my space equipment.
07:24I'm the one who equips the shoes, move everything in detail, sir.
07:28Please, you must have seen these divine shoes, sir, he gave them to me as a gift.
07:31Carolina Peleriti gave me this as a gift.
07:34My close friend, Peleriti, gave me these divine shoes.
07:38I am a very good friend of Gerardo Romano.
07:39Gerardo's, who bought a field right next to mine.
07:42Yes, yes, yes, next to it.
07:42The house is already being built.
07:44There it goes with the Willow.
07:45What a silly Gerardo, huh?
07:46Yes, Antonio, stuck.
07:48It's between me and Antonio.
07:49There's Gazaya, Blanca Curi, Carlitos Perseavale, well, now Gerardo Romano and Peleriti.
07:55There are a lot of people, a lot of young, cool, very nice people.
07:58And what about Fabio Serpa and his wife?
07:59Whenever.
08:00There's always a little room for Fabio Serpa.
08:03There's always a little room.
08:04Well, Carlos, have you ever seen an alien?
08:06Did you see anything strange?
08:06I saw a ship, the ship.
08:08Yes, of course, I've seen the ship.
08:13I have had dreams.
08:14We talked to the boys before going in.
08:16There's a reason why...
08:17There's a part of me who doesn't know if this is also logical; I'd like to talk to the experts when they arrive.
08:22about the topic.
08:22There is a part of one that tends to deny the things one sees.
08:25There's a part of me that also identifies with when, as a little girl, I sometimes say, "I don't think they exist until..."
08:30that I don't see them.
08:31I understand, because even I, who have seen it, have moments when I doubt.
08:36But I have seen ships and I have seen, yes, yes, yes, yes.
08:39Did it scare you or not?
08:40Nothing.
08:41Nothing.
08:41You know? Do you remember the look on the little boy's face during close encounters when he goes towards... that goes with
08:46That happiness?
08:47Yeah.
08:47That's what it makes you feel.
08:48Yes, it really did affect me, at least; I recognized myself in that feeling of joy, of happiness.
08:56as if they are good beings who possess goodness.
08:58Unknown den.
08:59Yes, that's remarkable.
09:00Not only have I seen things, but I've had dreams, which I'm going to tell you about on the air, you
09:04I'm going to tell you.
09:05Do you want to take off that beautiful jacket or not?
09:06Whenever you want, this thing doesn't weigh anything, I'm quite the UFO, huh?
09:10Quite...
09:10You know what, little one, I don't do to her?
09:11Thank you, my dear.
09:12So many years that...
09:25Yeah.
09:26Someone else for the better.
09:28Yes, I feel like that person.
09:29Infinitely.
09:29You're working, Carlito.
09:30I'm working in Montevideo with tremendous success, with a show called The Broadway to Montevideo.
09:34Is The Broadway in Montevideo called?
09:36Yeah.
09:36I don't know how to do it in Buenos Aires.
09:38And maybe so, Rodolfo Bevan came to see me this weekend.
09:42Ah, Rodolfo was there.
09:43He came with Graciela, and Franco came, and with María Los Ángeles Medrán.
09:46A success, Bevan and Borges.
09:48Oh ok.
09:49But the Solís was full, absolutely full, completely full.
09:52Excellent.
09:52They received a standing ovation.
09:53They're coming back, they're coming back with this language.
09:55Look at that, how nice.
09:55And after the show, 30-something people came to see me.
09:57Love letters.
09:57Love letters, yes.
09:58They went to see 30-something people and what...
10:00How are you, Bevan?
10:01Why not?
10:03Scholar of the UFO phenomenon.
10:06Because?
10:06Have you seen anything extraterrestrial?
10:11First of all, we must understand that God is an extraterrestrial.
10:16Okay, I'm going to open the bottle.
10:17Don't you drink champagne?
10:18No, Maria.
10:19Do you want water?
10:20I am a very bad alcoholic.
10:21Well, water.
10:21A little bit of water might do the trick.
10:23But champagne.
10:23Well, we naturalists know that.
10:25No, no, we are not.
10:26No, no, we are not.
10:26Delicious.
10:26They say that a little champagne every now and then when you start lunch is a good idea.
10:29It works great with Legrán.
10:31Delicious champagne, absolutely delicious.
10:32I met Mirta when we launched Orchid Tuesdays.
10:36It's true.
10:36A job I would do again for free.
10:39It's true.
10:39How lovely.
10:40What a lovely memory that night was, wasn't it?
10:42Yes, yes, yes.
10:42With Toscano, wasn't it?
10:44With the Toscano.
10:44With Gabriela Toscano, of course, who played the lead role.
10:47How nice.
10:48Well, yes, after many years of research I have actually discovered that beings
10:53Humans, if we don't see, we can't believe.
10:56And we're not trying to separate them, but people don't believe if they don't see it.
11:02So that's the story, isn't it?
11:04But you really saw it.
11:05I saw it and I implicitly want to extend a private invitation to you, with all due respect.
11:10that I feel Mrs. Legrán deserves, to take her to see an experience.
11:15Whenever she wants, she has my phone number, she can call me.
11:18And according to that...
11:20He's trembling, because I don't believe it.
11:25No, no, I don't believe it, no, I'm not trembling, but I don't believe it.
11:27Okay, I think that, in itself, I congratulate you for addressing this irritating topic.
11:35I believe that the mere fact that a spaceship appears in a frame of a film, in a
11:41Second, right?
11:42And it disappears, it would irritate all those people who through airplanes and wars and
11:48They want to impose peace on the world through violence.
11:52Yes, I saw it, if you want I can tell you now or later.
11:54That's the one we had to be...
11:56We had Gloria Gaynor singing earlier, so that's good.
11:59How wonderful.
11:59How wonderful.
11:59She looks great.
12:01It's great.
12:01It's on tonight.
12:02I thought she was Puerto Rican.
12:04Yes, I was Puerto Rican.
12:05He speaks Spanish very well, he's right.
12:07He speaks very well.
12:08He's from New Jersey, I just asked him.
12:09Well, we now welcome Dr. Antonio Laceras, who is a UFO researcher,
12:13a scholar.
12:14A scholar.
12:24They all know each other, Fabio, Jorge Mayorano, and Carlos Percadal.
12:29Very good.
12:29What does the doctor say?
12:30I am here to testify to several things.
12:32Let's see.
12:33The first is that this is a program that brings good luck.
12:36Ah, what obedience.
12:37The appreciation?
12:39And the second reason is that I'm bringing this UFO book here, Astronaut Documents.
12:44Yeah.
12:44And I want to tell the audience that the reason I can deliver this book here today is because of them.
12:51to Mrs. Mirta Legrán, whom we will present this Thursday at 7 pm at the Society
12:57Argentina de Escritores, Uruguay 1371, you have to be there.
13:02The person responsible for this book is Mrs. Mirta Legrán.
13:05Look here.
13:05And I'm going to explain why.
13:06Last year, Mirta decided to hold a panel discussion about UFOs during the World Cup.
13:14and when Argentina was playing.
13:18So, what do people think?
13:20I come up with those kinds of ideas.
13:22It's a risk.
13:23But I will never stop thanking him.
13:25Because, what do people think?
13:27He says he won't have an audience.
13:29Very good.
13:30At the table, one of the guests says,
13:35How wonderful it would be if Dr. Laceras republished that book on UFOs.
13:40astronaut documents that he has had for so many years.
13:44Passed.
13:45The program ends, we leave, I turn on my cell phone,
13:51I'm going to say this because, to see if any other editor thinks, I have more copies.
13:54It's 448-5916.
13:57I advise you that I don't know.
13:58And then...
13:59Oh, you don't know what you've done.
14:00But let me tell you, because I do.
14:04I turn on that phone and the manager of the UFO publishing house calls me.
14:09He doesn't believe it was an alien who did it.
14:10Me too.
14:11No, my dear.
14:12And he tells me, it's the book you just mentioned that's out of print
14:18if we want to edit it ourselves.
14:20If it weren't for this program, this book wouldn't be on the street today.
14:27Pay Dr. Chiquita's fee.
14:28But I'm going to do it with a lot of love, with so much love.
14:32This is my book for Mirta Legrán, Fairy Godmother, who made its publication possible.
14:37With affection, well, Dr. Laceros.
14:38Well, thank you very much.
14:40UFOs, astronaut documents.
14:43And hopefully you can come to the book launch on Thursday.
14:46At the Argentine Society of Writers.
14:48He told me in the afternoon.
14:48Uruguay, about 371 at 7 pm.
14:51And have you ever seen an alien, doctor?
14:54No, not aliens.
14:55I've seen UFOs.
14:56UFOs.
14:56Now, it's worth...
14:57Has anyone seen an alien?
14:58Yes, there are many cases of close encounters of the third kind, testimonies from people
15:03that he has seen not only around the extraterrestrial vehicle,
15:08but also people who have been inside extraterrestrial-controlled vehicles.
15:13Do you remember the Esquirru family? Do you remember Ludovica?
15:16Eduardo Esquirru.
15:17Eduardo Esquirru.
15:17I remember he told it on your show.
15:18He told the story many years ago.
15:19Many, many years ago.
15:20Dr. Eduardo Esquirru, who was from Ludovica.
15:22The father.
15:23Ludovica's father.
15:24They were in the house.
15:25At a country house, in Parque del Luar, somewhere around there, I do remember.
15:27Also, the year 1968.
15:29The year 1968.
15:30Thank you, doctor.
15:31On the contrary, thank you.
15:32Well, we have another guest and we welcome Dante Frach, who is a researcher.
15:36He participated in experiences of contact with extraterrestrial ships.
15:54Well, they all know Dr. Laceras, here's a clever person who knows him.
15:57to Jorge Mayorano, to Fabio Serpa, to Mr. Dante Frach.
16:01Sit down.
16:02He was my student.
16:03Oh, really?
16:04Ah, well, he's with the teacher today, so watch what you say, okay?
16:09With love to the teacher.
16:10It's in season, almost time, isn't it?
16:13It's been a few years since I've had some contact experiences.
16:17Where was he?
16:17In Uritorco?
16:18Is Uritorco Uritorco?
16:19It's Uritorco.
16:20Uritorco.
16:21That's what Córdoba is all about, isn't it?
16:22Exactly.
16:23In Capilla del Monte.
16:24Capilla del Monte.
16:24There is one hill that is the most important, it is called Cerro Uritorco.
16:27And then, well, I happened to receive a telepathic call back in 1986.
16:31And on January 9th, the night of January 9th, I am behind the mountains of Copacabana,
16:36at the moment of the famous descent or approach of a ship that leaves a trace
16:41115 meters long by 95 meters wide.
16:44Oh, where was that?
16:45Where was it?
16:45That's on Cerro Pajarillo, on the slopes of the hill.
16:48Well, there are some panoramic views from those photos I took during that time that are really
16:53spectacular.
16:54Did you bring them today?
16:55But yes, I brought them.
16:56It's about 40 kilometers from Capilla del Monte.
16:58A little less, it's 8 by road and 7 and a half by crossing to Onganía.
17:03What were you thinking while you were speaking?
17:05How remarkable.
17:06That's Córdoba.
17:06It's Cordoba.
17:07Ludovica, Verde Quirro's daughter, is going to Córdoba, which is nearby.
17:10And there's a time of year when she sees it constantly.
17:14But what is it about that area?
17:15What is a magnificent one?
17:16It's a magnificent special because the vast majority of the contact experiences I've had
17:22It has been there, in the vicinity, at least of Cerro Uritorco.
17:25And not only to see extraterrestrial ships, extraterrestrial-controlled vehicles, but to photograph them
17:30even beings, in which it has not been possible... that is, there are few testimonies, but some
17:36Some of them have been achieved in Argentina.
17:39That's why I think it's an extremely important area that, well, has already transcendental connotations.
17:43There's something that intrigues me. Are they all men, or are there women?
17:46There are men and women.
18:12Are there women?
18:13Yes, yes, yes.
18:14So that?
18:15Did you see anything, Jorge?
18:17Yes, I saw it.
18:17Uh-huh.
18:18I saw it several times.
18:19I'm going to ask you a question that's kind of cruel, huh? When the actors come in
18:23They're not saying they're a little crazy about this, are they?
18:26Yes it's true.
18:27Well, madness is one of the ways to heal.
18:29And many of them, unfortunately...
18:30Everyone looked at me.
18:31No, everyone looked at me.
18:33No, everyone looked at me.
18:33No, everyone looked at me.
18:33I have the mind.
18:34It's true.
18:35It's true.
18:36No, but the actors say "I'm in the business," but I'm an actress too, I'm in the business.
18:40And I hear people saying, no, look, he's with the alien spaceships, he's
18:44He's half crazy, he's into weird stuff.
18:46And if it's a university professor and he comes up with these ideas, they say the same thing...
18:50No, but the actors...
18:51Yes, yes, yes.
18:53It has affected your work.
18:54It has affected your work.
18:55It has affected your work.
18:55The first time I came with this story...
18:56Look at this girl, what's her name? Estelita Molly.
18:58Estelita Molly has also been affected.
19:00Well, the other day Estela and I were together doing theater, like in the theater.
19:04Ah, yes.
19:04And it's vague, I think that's the best way for it to affect us, don't you?
19:08Because this society needs to change.
19:11This is getting really boring, isn't it?
19:13And these people have nothing to do because there is organ trafficking, drug trafficking, and corruption.
19:18Doctors don't know how to cure; they don't have the means to cure.
19:21The economy has a fracture at the level of...
19:24We are facing something that is undeniable.
19:28When I recounted this first experience, my wife looked at me.
19:31My wife is an Aries, whom I love, and I'm grateful that she's put up with me all these years of...
19:37And does she participate?
19:38No not at all.
19:39This is what's wonderful.
19:40And he doesn't tell you, Jorge, you're half crazy.
19:43He didn't tell me, "You're half crazy," but he didn't participate until that day we had an experience.
19:49Oh, really?
19:49Yes, yes.
19:50Ah, and now they'd tell me about it.
19:51We have to put up the sign that says, dining room to the dining room.
19:54We need to...
19:55Well, thank you very much for coming.
19:57Thanks my love.
19:58Thank you, doctor.
19:59Look.
20:00Well, with water.
20:01With water.
20:01Thank you, Fabio.
20:02Now you tell me, now they tell me all the...
20:05Gentlemen, you now have to convince me.
20:09Let's convince them.
20:10Let's see.
20:10We'll be right back.
20:10Thank you so much.
20:16With us, Mrs. Mirta Legrán de Tiner.
20:21Thank you so much.
20:22Thank you so much.
20:24Thank you so much.
20:25Thank you so much.
20:41All for Chinese, huh.
20:43Jorjitos, cats too, dragon, dragon, dragon and snake.
20:47Oh ok.
20:47Then we got along great.
20:48Dragon majority.
20:49We get along great, huh.
20:50It is wisdom; we are knowledge.
20:52Knowledge.
20:53Knowledge.
20:53It's a memory, gentlemen, how delicious today's food is, we're drinking Burgundy wine.
20:57From the Santana winery, a wine to share
20:59Delicious! I propose we make a toast.
21:01They didn't serve me the Burgundy
21:04I have been
21:05the only representative of Burgundy
21:08luck
21:08the only
21:11they made it favorable
21:12Let's try the Burgundy
21:14Well, the girl didn't know.
21:15Well, for lunch we're having breaded prawns.
21:19We're here, are you hungry? I'm hungry today
21:21You know, with the cold weather, he's not hungry anymore.
21:22I get up very early, so oh well
21:24Cappelletti with pink sauce, which is a good little head
21:28that's lovely
21:29and tropical cup
21:31in full
21:32and we have colored thread placemats
21:35with matching applications
21:36and red napkin holders
21:38And I already thanked Roberta, who is the one who set this table.
21:41in the morning and sends us these lovely things
21:43Is Argentina a country?
21:46very visited
21:47because of UFO phenomena?
21:49Statistically we are number one
21:51in the world?
21:52throughout the world, yes
21:53many more observations than the United States
21:56North America
21:57that same Europe almost generalized
22:01And fundamentally, I believe we owe this to him.
22:04to a reality called Patagonia
22:07clear
22:08In other words, it's a huge UFO launch site, I'd say.
22:11that we would be even more so
22:13in the highest statistics
22:15If we could interrogate the sheep
22:18Well
22:19and the sheep
22:21They are very good witnesses
22:22because they don't lie
22:23The man lies
22:24anyway
22:25There's something important
22:26to indicate what follows
22:27that many UFOs appear
22:29does not mean
22:30that they are extraterrestrial vehicles piloted
22:33means
22:34which are objects
22:35that the one who saw them
22:36I didn't know
22:38unidentified flying objects
22:39correct
22:39point one
22:40But I want to get to an anecdote
22:41I'm going to link it to you again, Mirta.
22:43on this topic
22:44Yeah
22:44I have no other alternative
22:45which is the next
22:46Okay, go on.
22:47People say they see things
22:50and then he gives explanations for those things.
22:53It had legs
22:54It had bull's-eye eyes
22:56Someone with tentacles came out
22:58whatever it was
22:59however
23:00people
23:01many times
23:03believes
23:04that has seen
23:06and she is convinced
23:07having seen
23:07what he didn't see
23:08and the best example
23:11We've seen it
23:13and on Mayorano's face
23:14I can see his face
23:15the best example
23:17We've seen it
23:18I
23:18Let me finish
23:19the best example
23:21We've seen it
23:21a few days ago
23:22in the program
23:22by Marcelo Tinelli
23:24and then he repeated it again
23:25here you
23:26What happened?
23:27A person appeared
23:28dressed by Mirta Legrán
23:31went out into the street
23:33He received those who are
23:35Mirta's admirers
23:37who must be people
23:37that knows
23:38how to style your hair
23:39how she dresses
23:40He was there for 10 minutes
23:41in front of
23:42They kissed her
23:44to that person
23:45They hugged her
23:46They thanked her
23:47They greeted her
23:47He left on a bicycle
23:50two pedals
23:52and nobody noticed
23:55that wasn't Mirta Legrán
23:57this
23:58Made by fans
24:00What would it be?
24:01if it's about
24:02from someone
24:02who has seen her
24:02two or three times
24:03on television?
24:04This has something to do with it
24:05with the UFO topic
24:05because
24:06It is the psyche
24:07of the people
24:08but
24:08many people
24:09go
24:12It's a small part
24:14of course
24:15a little bit
24:15of a phenomenon
24:16evident
24:17that we see
24:17strange things
24:18which are not
24:19That doesn't matter.
24:20It could be Mirta
24:21She could be a Mirta lookalike
24:22But it's kind of weird.
24:23a Mirta lookalike
24:24It's also rare
24:25I acknowledge
24:26that for a while
24:26put on the cream
24:27that's why
24:27the creation
24:28so that we don't confuse
24:30the flying object
24:30identified
24:31what are we saying
24:32that all that
24:32They are extraterrestrial devices
24:33Oh no, no
24:34But it wasn't
24:35before
24:35we have a tendency
24:36to simplify
24:36make it easier
24:37the thing we have seen
24:39I
24:39make it real
24:40not that people
24:41sorry
24:41people in general
24:42and I include myself
24:43We are very gullible
24:44clear
24:45I am gullible
24:46I believe what I see
24:48then suddenly
24:48They're telling me
24:49This is so-and-so.
24:51I realize
24:52I observe her a little bit
24:52and I say
24:53No
24:53It's not the same person
24:54but
24:54There are a lot of people
24:55who believes it
24:56also
24:57I know you
24:57of my whole life
24:58And if they tell me
24:59that at the beginning
25:00believe
25:00If they tell me that it is
25:01little one
25:02a little while
25:03I know her
25:07I was saying the other day
25:08that I came out in the stage
25:09where was he from
25:10of the nation
25:11with the minister
25:12horse here
25:12and for a moment
25:14I told myself
25:14how similar to me
25:15a fraction
25:19second
25:19let's see
25:20what were you saying
25:20you
25:21Mayorano
25:21You disagree
25:22with what he said
25:23Professor Lacera
25:24I disagree
25:25And I disagree
25:26because for me
25:26come to this program
25:28It was very important
25:29First, I didn't go
25:30guest as an actor
25:31but as a human being
25:33who has had an experience
25:34And it's true.
25:35and this experience
25:36I've had it
25:37in the year 80
25:40It is very important
25:41everything we say
25:42us
25:43at this table
25:44the country
25:45I would say
25:45that is pending
25:46from a conversation
25:48talking
25:48of the transcendent
25:50that we're going
25:51beyond
25:52from space
25:52time
25:53So I think
25:54that the vehicles
25:55are directed
25:57that the phenomenon
25:58UFO
25:58It's not like that.
25:59but we know
26:00where do they come from
26:01And where are they going?
26:03and what universes
26:04and what relationships
26:04have
26:05that perhaps
26:06we don't have time
26:08to develop them
26:08Tell me in a few words
26:09where do they come from
26:10Well, I think
26:10that the material universe
26:12is the derivation
26:13of the universe
26:15mental
26:16and through
26:17of a spiritual universe
26:18We need to connect
26:19a bit
26:20the antacara
26:21of the Hindus
26:22connect
26:23the bottom
26:24with the superior
26:25with the phenomenon
26:26UFO
26:27There's a lot of madness.
26:28and there's a lot of business.
26:29and there's a lot of fantasy.
26:31and the people
26:32sometimes
26:33escapes
26:33of their own reality
26:34because it suits him
26:35the UFO business
26:36or the business of religion
26:38This is a reality.
26:39that if we
26:40we investigate
26:41the Sumerian texts
26:43we can find
26:44the words
26:46the word
26:47mu
26:47what does it mean
26:48those who fell from the sky
26:50and if we relate them
26:51to a book
26:51as a parameter
26:52like the Bible
26:53we need to realize
26:55that they are talking
26:55of the fallen angels
26:57and not only
26:57not only
26:57and you read the mavajarata
27:00the snowflake and the Mayans
27:01And you know that
27:03the important thing
27:04of all this
27:04It's that the UFO phenomenon
27:05behaves
27:06with that
27:07as we were saying
27:07Dr. Jacques Vallée
27:08who is a great scientist
27:09from NASA
27:10It's an impact
27:11of conscience
27:12It's an impact
27:13of individual consciousness
27:14that now
27:15has become sociological
27:17I've lived it.
27:18firsthand
27:19in the 1960s
27:20Fabio Serpa
27:21He was crazy
27:22that he had found
27:23a job
27:23with UFOs
27:24with extraterrestrial life
27:26and now
27:27has been put
27:30for public consideration
27:33the UFO phenomenon
27:34for me
27:35It remains
27:35the most exciting mystery
27:36of the 20th century
27:37I love
27:38because it's a mystery
27:40There is one thing
27:41that surprises me
27:42such as
27:43the United States
27:44the great powers
27:45They don't emphasize this
27:46They don't inform us
27:47no sorry
27:47Read the book
27:49UFOs
27:49They exist and they are extraterrestrials
27:51and bring to light
27:52the commander
27:53He gives me some really strange names
27:55we can be punctual
27:57in 1950
27:57We need to be punctual
27:59because if there is no relief
28:00with this
28:01in 1950
28:02USA
28:03recognizes extraterrestrial life
28:04in the world almanac
28:06which is a book
28:07that is taken out
28:08with all the great experiences
28:09and discoveries
28:10of humanity
28:11in 1991
28:13USA
28:14acknowledges
28:14extraterrestrial life
28:17There are two videos
28:18from NASA
28:19It's more
28:21I take out
28:22in this book
28:22and it's the same
28:23What can I say?
28:23tonight
28:24at 8:15 p.m.
28:25that is to say
28:28authentically
28:29documentation exists
28:30of the American CIA
28:32from the Pentagon
28:33from EATIC
28:34Air Technical Intelligence Center
28:36that discuss the problem
28:37of the UFO phenomenon
28:38I'm giving it with documentation.
28:39true
28:40But I've already shown that.
28:41Do you remember?
28:42last year
28:42when I came here
28:43I showed those documents
28:44of the CIA
28:45I've also ordered them
28:46But it's an alien.
28:47and June 16
28:49we'll never know
28:49He's going to say it
28:50June 16
28:52of 1948
28:55A UFO crashes
28:56in the state
28:56from New Mexico
28:58Many people are involved
28:59from the ATI
29:00of the Intelligence Service
29:01an extraterrestrial vehicle
29:03clear
29:03perhaps accommodating
29:05Jorge Mayorano's
29:07me, for myself
29:07UFOs
29:08and I gave it in the year
29:091975
29:10does exactly
29:1120 years
29:12the definition
29:13of UFOs
29:14is
29:14extraterrestrial spacecraft
29:17piloted
29:17or directed
29:18by beings
29:19smart
29:20that which I was saying
29:21that everything
29:22He's intelligent
29:23and with training
29:24anthropomorphic
29:25the pilots
29:26that have been seen
29:27in the 965
29:28cases
29:29real
29:30contacts
29:31of the third type
29:32He is a man
29:33just like us
29:34that science
29:34He also acknowledges this.
29:35in outer space
29:37if they come
29:38from outer space
29:39Where do they come from?
29:40Here it is
29:40which
29:40I can add
29:42we are
29:43just like them
29:44exact
29:45because we have
29:46many relatives
29:47collateral
29:47but none
29:48in common
29:49I invite
29:50to humanity
29:51that he reads
29:51the Sumerian tablets
29:53Where are they?
29:53the first gods
29:55the first 12 gods
29:56the Anu
29:57the Elki
29:58excellent
29:59I had 10 in my story
30:01and 0 in mathematics
30:02I am a teacher
30:04of history
30:04so it starts me
30:05my topic
30:05the theory
30:06that there are beings
30:08extraterrestrials
30:09It's obvious.
30:10for several reasons
30:11among them
30:12when the teacher
30:13Serpa said today
30:14that Argentina
30:15It's UFO country
30:16reference is made
30:17no to the cases
30:18of people
30:18that see lights
30:19around there
30:19They believe they are
30:20flying saucers
30:21and they are satellites
30:21but to the enormous amount
30:23of cases
30:24of specific sightings
30:25of descents
30:26of footprints
30:26or of the presence
30:28or view
30:28of physical beings
30:29as he rightly said
30:30anthropomorphic
30:31humans
30:31or humanoids
30:32when one investigates
30:33the UFO phenomenon
30:34or has experiences
30:35realizes
30:36that these beings
30:37They are human
30:38at once
30:39with training
30:39a little different
30:40and in other cases
30:41almost the same
30:42they could be
30:43at this table
30:43and not knowing how to differentiate
30:45the human
30:46of the earth
30:46of the extraterrestrial
30:47because?
30:48because it has been possible
30:49note
30:49through astrophysics
30:50nowadays
30:51that the matter
30:52constitutive
30:53in the universe
30:54It's a constant
30:55and what planetary systems
30:57hydrogen-based
30:58nitrogen
30:59oxygen
31:00carbon
31:00He's not the only one.
31:02Quite the contrary
31:03There are hundreds of millions
31:04of planetary systems
31:05only in our galaxy
31:06today astrophysics
31:07through research
31:08has been able to verify
31:09the magnitude
31:10of a universe
31:10and the historical phenomenon
31:12UFO
31:13It has the other point
31:14gravitational support
31:16But let's make it easy.
31:19Gravity prospecting?
31:20I mean
31:21Gravity prospecting?
31:22from other systems
31:23solar
31:24from this or another galaxy
31:26But where do they get off?
31:27Where are they?
31:28Where can you see them?
31:29Who photographs it?
31:31Who ever
31:32Did he photograph it?
31:34no, no, no
31:35I'm not going
31:35because I don't believe
31:37It doesn't show us
31:38No, you're right.
31:39She is not well
31:40You're going to lift me up
31:41at 4 in the morning
31:42Let's see if you like it
31:46There are things that generally
31:48They don't speak to each other.
31:48or that they talk
31:49and there are none left
31:51at a moment
31:51I know that my colleagues
31:53have gone
31:54It's a fault
31:54goes
31:55in the Soviet Union
31:56before the wall fell
31:58before the fall of communism
32:00Two ships landed
32:01and they saw them
32:02I don't know how many people
32:03casually
32:04That's not something we talk about.
32:05communism
32:06It didn't fall right away
32:07That's not something we talk about.
32:09the important thing that Gorbachev
32:11said
32:11that information had to be given
32:13always
32:13the AKGB
32:15and all
32:15he
32:16he
32:17hard polyhard
32:18Russian
32:18and Gorbachev
32:20He said yes.
32:21That hasn't come out.
32:22no one talks
32:23It's like we have a trend
32:24to
32:25to ignore
32:25to not wanting to know
32:26to ignore
32:27or speak in difficult
32:28how to speak in our
32:29But I have a lot in the United States.
32:30The United States is a country
32:31that reveals things
32:32they say
32:33no, no, no
32:34Do you remember?
32:35when
32:36before assuming the presidency
32:39one of the workhorses
32:40that he used in the campaign
32:42was
32:42I will reveal the secret documents
32:44about the UFO phenomenon
32:45I didn't hear it
32:45in clause 28
32:48I said I will reveal
32:50he had seen
32:51What's the point of hiding them?
32:53What's the point of hiding them?
32:53Why don't they hide?
32:54first the possibility
32:55the ecological possibility
32:56that involves
32:57to these ships
32:58I mean
32:58Do you manage them, Marriages?
32:59mayorano that is not mayorano
33:00Has it been many years?
33:01not mayorano
33:03Miss
33:04Mayorano
33:05Who said Mayorano?
33:06Mayorano when they introduced me
33:08the collective unconscious
33:09How television is recorded
33:11Isn't that Guzmán?
33:12No?
33:12Who is Mayorano?
33:13Isn't he with Guzmán now?
33:15He's my brother
33:16No, you are with Y
33:18Mirta
33:18He sends his regards to the workers.
33:20from the company July 13
33:21former Ede Sur
33:22that we work on Saturday
33:23in his study
33:24And we're all Racing fans.
33:25Well
33:25a kiss
33:26thank you so much
33:27I didn't know he had worked here
33:28thanks a lot
33:29Why Racing?
33:30as?
33:31I'm a Racing fan too.
33:31Ah!
33:32Are you lucky?
33:32Why Racing?
33:33Why Racing?
33:34Why Racing?
33:34Why Racing?
33:35Why Racing?
33:35Why Racing?
33:37Why Racing?
33:40Why Racing?
33:41the court that is most often seen in UFOs
33:43Well
33:43very sorry
33:44my senses weigh heavy
33:45better yesterday
33:45No?
33:46my senses weigh heavy
33:46there is salve
33:48We won too many championships
33:52Cerpa and Dr. Laceras
33:53I would like them to have
33:54a few words of recognition
33:56for Pedro Romaniuk
33:57Sending love and a kiss to Mirta
33:58Sabina Olmos
33:59thank you so much
34:00but Isola Olme
34:00we have spoken
34:01We also send you our regards.
34:03Very big thanks to Pedro Romaniuk
34:04Well Mirta, I don't believe in UFOs.
34:06because I never saw them
34:07I find it hard to understand
34:08what it calls
34:09superior cultures
34:10Maruca de Citibel
34:11come and see
34:11clear
34:12explain it simply
34:14convince us
34:14Let the Cátulo Castillo theater come
34:16and we explained
34:16goes to the promotion
34:18third promotion
34:19serious thing
34:20Mayorano
34:21I never really understood
34:22that thing about close encounters
34:23of first, second and third type
34:24Can you explain?
34:25who is Julio
34:26from Florencio Varela
34:26Okay, I'm going to a break.
34:27right away
34:28cerpa
34:28you have knowledge
34:30that Freemasonry
34:30has contacts
34:31with the extraterrestrials
34:33This is a very good question.
34:34Horacio de Belgrano
34:35I'm going to a break
34:36and I'll be right back
34:37lady
34:37Don't leave
34:38we'll be right back
34:39This is parking me.
34:40We'll be right back
34:41thank you so much
34:46was lasting
34:47Okay Carlito
34:48There was no answer.
34:49of his judgment
34:50No?
34:51of general
34:51ah first contact
34:53second and third
34:54Yeah
34:54first contact
34:55These are the visualizations
34:57of the devices
34:59and these strangers
34:59that we call a UFO
35:00or SEE
35:01extraterrestrial vehicle
35:03the ranking
35:03by Dr. Joseph Allen Hynek
35:05one of the 10 greatest
35:06astronomers of the world
35:07who was American
35:08after the contact
35:09of the first type
35:10display
35:11second type contact
35:12when it goes down
35:13and leaves physical evidence
35:15of a reality
35:16extraterrestrial
35:17beyond our culture
35:18beyond our
35:19cultural knowledge
35:20not all of them are listed
35:21I had more
35:23please
35:23Where are all these?
35:25this case
35:26I unfortunately
35:27I had brought it to you
35:28in a video
35:28but it's in
35:30NTCC
35:31It's filmed
35:3120 days ago
35:33Where is this?
35:33in San Carlos de Bariloche
35:34This is in
35:35Pilcanilleu
35:35In fact
35:37was
35:37two
35:38men
35:39which are
35:39dealers
35:40of automobiles
35:41that
35:42I had shown you
35:43the photos too
35:43that
35:44for 31 kilometers
35:47They are being persecuted
35:48because of UFOs
35:49for a long time
35:50No, this was
35:51all together
35:52There was a quantity
35:52of photographs
35:53It doesn't matter
35:54But we'll show it there.
35:55at a certain point
35:57There is one of the witnesses
35:59indicating
36:00that are a little
36:01as persecuted
36:02because of UFOs
36:03at no time
36:04They are terrified
36:06but they realize
36:07that they are not being persecuted
36:08or anything
36:08he does
36:09which were
36:10the four ships
36:11that they had behind them
36:13four ships
36:14or four lights
36:15who were behind
36:16of the two of them
36:16and onward
36:18a larger ship
36:19at a certain point
36:21all ships
36:22they release
36:23these beams of light
36:24compact and coherent
36:26that they say
36:27a kind of table
36:28billiard
36:29let's say
36:30the two witnesses
36:30And they leave it at that.
36:31that we just showed
36:33Here it is
36:33This is what I asked for.
36:34thank you
36:35clear
36:35They are there in the testimony
36:37clear
36:37when they are
36:38the two witnesses
36:39with me
36:40Look at this wonderful landscape!
36:41Where is this?
36:42there it is
36:42between Picalnilleu
36:43and Bariloche
36:44far away it is
36:45the stay
36:46one of the rooms
36:47Benetton
36:48you know that
36:48Maria Patagonia has taken over
36:50Here are the two witnesses
36:51when
36:52They are
36:53They are watching
36:54What are we here for?
36:54reproducing the fact
36:55of what
36:56They are following
36:57and then it would be
36:59clear
36:59There you have it
37:00And there it is.
37:01I would like to return
37:02to wait for you a little bit
37:03the
37:04this
37:04This is extraordinary.
37:06We measure this
37:07that's exactly it
37:08a horseshoe
37:0944 meters
37:11is totally
37:12charred
37:13in the part
37:14above
37:14and it's not
37:16in the part
37:16down
37:17burned
37:17that is to say
37:17It is an energy
37:19It is a light
37:20Is it a ship?
37:20that has gone down?
37:21what is this?
37:22No
37:22He makes them out of lights
37:23compact and coherent
37:24that the ships launch
37:25Well, there's your proof.
37:26of a technology
37:27different
37:28to any technology
37:29known on Earth
37:30And that would be a meeting.
37:33of the second type
37:33second type
37:34Now I remember
37:36no no no
37:37had been left in suspense
37:38the Freemasonry thing
37:39in relation to the
37:40extraterrestrials
37:41and contact
37:42of the third type
37:43They are when it goes down
37:45the crew member
37:45one of the witnesses
37:47from here
37:47from Pilcanilleu
37:48and from Bariloche
37:49the witnesses
37:49live in San Carlos
37:50from Bariloche
37:52one of the witnesses
37:53He says he sees entities
37:55authentically
37:56some about two meters
37:57and something
37:58and one
37:58He sees a short man
38:00which would be the typology
38:01number one
38:01up to one meter forty
38:03height
38:03and the giants
38:04two meters
38:06up to four meters fifty
38:07maximum height
38:08found by an extraterrestrial being
38:10And there are the heights
38:11who are the giants
38:12and average height
38:13They are between one meter and forty
38:15and two meters
38:16according to the classification
38:17of a commission
38:18that we form
38:19in the decade
38:19Let's see, Carlito
38:19I want
38:20I'm going to tell you
38:21You guys are very technical
38:22They are all teachers
38:23university professors
38:24I'm going to tell you
38:25I am a comic artist
38:28the experience
38:29transhumans
38:29that I have had
38:31transhumans
38:31one day
38:32many years ago
38:33many years ago
38:34I was doing
38:34at the convention center
38:35in Punta del Este
38:36That's how extraterrestrials were.
38:38dressed in a spacesuit
38:40talking with
38:40and one day I was talking
38:41with the public
38:43and according to me
38:45I see
38:47full
38:48I see a man standing still
38:49very high
38:50at first
38:51from the second row
38:52very high
38:53and I would lie
38:54if I told him now
38:55lady
38:55who is looking at me
38:56Sir
38:56I saw him wearing a spacesuit
38:58or that I saw him at a meeting
38:59that had a sweater
39:00Benetton
39:00I don't know
39:01I saw something big
39:02a tall guy
39:03more brands, guys
39:04I don't know
39:05not as he named it
39:08a tall guy
39:09a tall man
39:11then I asked him
39:12I talk a lot
39:13with the public
39:13you know
39:14and I said
39:14Sir
39:14Did they take the seat?
39:16and the moment
39:17Why am I asking this question?
39:18I see that the public
39:19the heads of the audience
39:20They look in the direction I am
39:22I was talking
39:23and they return to me
39:24as if telling me
39:25He's crazy.
39:25He's talking to himself
39:26there was nobody
39:27then I thought
39:29I went too far
39:31I've realized
39:31hand pills
39:33the truth
39:34Yeah
39:34that I'm fine with dreams
39:35I don't know what
39:37horn
39:37Something happened
39:38I quickly deleted it.
39:39and continued with the function
39:40that professional thing
39:41that we have
39:41here's the function
39:42when the function is finished
39:43the electrician
39:45whose name is Sergio Gómez
39:46and who lives here in Buenos Aires
39:47who is a wonderful man
39:49He came to see me in the dressing room
39:50and he told me
39:50Look, Carlos
39:51I saw what you saw
39:54that two-meter tall man
39:56dress
39:57light gray
39:58like silver
39:59I saw it
39:59And it happened to me
40:01kind of what I was saying
40:02at first
40:02What's wrong with him?
40:03to one of those we have seen
40:04things
40:04a negative attitude
40:06I did not deny
40:06And silver?
40:07What was he wearing?
40:08It was as if I were
40:09I'm exaggerating.
40:10as if it were
40:11like overalls
40:12like a silver jumpsuit
40:13like a thing
40:15with the stage lights
40:16It's not visible
40:17I can't distinguish perfectly
40:18That man came and told me
40:19I saw the same thing as you.
40:20And I thought
40:22OK that's fine
40:23OK
40:24I'll make it short.
40:25we became very good friends
40:26This guy Sergio Gómez
40:27from my sister Graciela
40:29with my sister Graciela
40:31who is a physics teacher
40:31who is very Catholic
40:32What is this?
40:34in certain things
40:35She's very small
40:36so
40:37orthodox
40:37she became very good friends
40:40of this boy
40:40And this boy
40:41He's one of those who have connections
40:43those who are going to Córdoba
40:44those who speak
40:44every now and then
40:46Well
40:46I had appeared
40:47at home
40:48at home
40:48at home
40:49in the brands
40:50she came to see them
40:50a relationship was created
40:51among them
40:52friendly
40:53one day
40:55I tried to erase
40:56this thing
40:57that had appeared
40:59one day
41:00I was about to do
41:00a tour
41:01to La Pampa
41:01a few years ago
41:02And Sergio calls me.
41:04and says
41:04I want to go talk
41:05with you
41:05with two friends
41:06came
41:08This was the first one
41:08July
41:09put it
41:09and he told me
41:11We want to warn you
41:12that you're going to have
41:13an approach
41:14July 23rd
41:16they told us
41:16the boys
41:17I'll make it easy for you.
41:18the boys
41:19they told us
41:19that they are going to have
41:19an approach
41:20with you
41:20on the 23rd
41:21I forgot
41:23I forgot
41:24I went to La Pampa
41:24I was living
41:25in Santa Rosa
41:26going to Poblas Nar
41:27or to
41:27You saw what La Pampa is like
41:28of enormous
41:29It was 180 kilometers away.
41:30nightly
41:31in the different towns
41:31to act
41:32one night
41:34at 2 in the morning
41:35after a performance
41:36in Puebla Nar
41:37I will never forget
41:38I was coming in the car
41:39with Jorge García
41:40driving
41:40with my assistant
41:41Go ahead, Miguel Ángel
41:42I sat in the back
41:43with heating
41:44July
41:45Imagine yourself in La Pampa
41:47and I see
41:48in the middle of the sky
41:50with the moon
41:50and the field
41:51a ship
41:52of this size
41:53just like one I saw
41:54in a photo
41:55that you showed me
41:56the size so
41:57with the lights
41:59then
42:00I notice it like this
42:01So
42:02that's it
42:03in the middle of the field
42:03exactly
42:04then
42:05I noticed
42:06on the date
42:07on the clock
42:08and it was
42:09I remembered
42:09which was July 23rd
42:11what I had deleted
42:12I opened the car
42:13I was like this
42:14without
42:15I had taken off my coat
42:16because I was in the car
42:16with the infraction
42:17and I was heading towards the ship
42:19like the little one
42:19of close encounters
42:21I had the feeling
42:22that I had to go to that
42:24those who were driving the car
42:25Jorge García and Miguel Ángel
42:26seeing me so lightly dressed
42:28in the cold of La Pampa
42:28at 2 in the morning
42:30They were scared
42:31the car
42:31It did not lose its light
42:32but the engine stopped
42:33the magnetic field
42:35He returned me
42:37I was already going
42:38towards the ship
42:40when they left
42:41and they put me in
42:42inside the car
42:43and at that moment
42:44that they put me in
42:45the ship also
42:45because many times
42:47we have seen
42:47satellites
42:48This made movements
42:50like this and like this
42:51in the shape of a cross
42:52as you told me
42:53So
42:54So
42:55but plate-shaped
42:57this way
42:58exactly that way
42:59not the shape of the cigar
43:01some
43:01No
43:02that way
43:03So
43:03the one I saw
43:04It was a cigar ship
43:05once
43:05That's no longer a UFO.
43:07that photo
43:08very specific
43:09I'll tell you
43:10he went away
43:11Well
43:12I returned to Santa Rosa
43:13I was very shaken up
43:14but slightly agitated
43:15not agitated badly
43:17Well, it ends
43:18the tour ends
43:19I'm going back to
43:20to Buenos Aires
43:22and the next step
43:24I have a dream
43:26a dream
43:28in which
43:29a ship descends
43:30at home
43:31but not
43:31I didn't see
43:32as if we see
43:32in a movie
43:33that ship
43:34I felt a light
43:35a light
43:36and people who spoke to me
43:37very classic
43:38classic
43:39then they spoke to me
43:39and they told me
43:40that my time on earth
43:41had ended
43:43I had to go with them
43:44And me with those things
43:45rationalists
43:46that we have
43:47I was telling them
43:47No
43:47if my time on earth
43:48term
43:49I can't leave
43:49in a ship
43:50with you
43:50if my time on earth
43:51term
43:52if my time on earth
43:53term
43:53kill me
43:54They bury me
43:55That way someone's going to cry for me
43:56like Valentino
43:57no, no, no
43:58You don't understand
43:59It's your time on earth
44:00term
44:01But let's leave it at that.
44:01to another like him
44:02in your place
44:03I told them
44:03but they cannot leave
44:05Those are dreams.
44:05I notice you
44:06some differences
44:07It's not the same
44:08they cannot leave
44:09to another place
44:10because I am very famous
44:11the eastern hill fort
44:12put in its place
44:14they cannot leave
44:16to another
44:17because I am very famous
44:18But you don't realize it
44:20Let's leave someone
44:21just like you
44:22that even you won't notice
44:23Fame is fleeting
44:24Well
44:24then
44:25They are the phone
44:26I woke up to my landlord
44:27to call me
44:28that had appeared
44:28some new brands at home
44:31pass
44:31And what shape do the marks have?
44:34no, round
44:34perfectly round
44:35as with a compass
44:36A circle?
44:37All of that has happened to me.
44:37But I'm telling you more, little one
44:39I'm going home
44:41the Velano arrives
44:42I'm going home to the lagoon
44:44and one day
44:45Sergio Gómez
44:46That's why I named him.
44:47and that it exists
44:48who is in Buenos Aires
44:49Call my sister
44:50February 9th
44:52to tell him
44:52Look at 12 noon
44:55to tell my sister
44:56I'm calling to let you know
44:58that your brother Carlos
44:59It's going to cause an accident.
45:01He's going to be presumed dead
45:02But don't be alarmed
45:04it's no big deal
45:04It's a warning
45:05of the boys
45:06because you're carrying
45:07the wrong path
45:09then my sister
45:10just like any of us
45:12even though I adore Sergio Gomez
45:13said
45:14Well, thank you very much.
45:15Thank you very much
45:15but he thought
45:16who had also had a bad day
45:18because any of us
45:19that would have been said
45:20because you say something like that
45:21but when
45:22He left at 6
45:23at 7
45:24the first news
45:24that I had an accident
45:25who had died
45:26What date was that?
45:27February 9
45:29February 9th
45:30exact
45:30my sister already
45:32I was prepared
45:33In other words, he wasn't scared.
45:34because I knew that's not the case
45:35exactly
45:36I went out and it happened to me
45:37It's very impressive.
45:38for those who are unaware
45:40Carlitos Perseavale
45:41He had an accident
45:41which almost cost him his life
45:43They took me out dead
45:44as it appeared
45:44They took me out dead
45:45then after that
45:46hang on a minute
45:47But with that physics thing...
45:48several laps
45:49several laps
45:51several laps in the car
45:53My dog died
45:54that the dogs are saved
45:55My dog died
45:56I left
45:57since I wasn't wearing it
45:58the bullring
45:59I got out through the glass
46:00the car fell on top of me
46:02but this one here
46:03that was below
46:04where the car fell
46:05There was just a little ditch
46:06like in rap movies
46:07that's where Antonio bought it
46:08I had the accident
46:10It was bought there
46:11Antonio's field
46:15and they took me out
46:17And there I fell, your body
46:19And there my body fell
46:20and the car like that
46:21That saved you
46:22clear
46:22then the shattered face
46:23through the gravel
46:24But I didn't break a bone.
46:26I didn't break a tooth
46:27I didn't break anything.
46:28I had blood clots in my brain
46:30circulating for a long time
46:31that the doctors told me
46:32that for six months
46:33I won't talk to anyone
46:34that he shouldn't say anything
46:34It was the worst torture
46:36No, no, I don't care about that.
46:37That changed a lot.
46:38and one day he snuck in
46:39a call from people
46:40one day he snuck in
46:41a call from a magazine
46:42from here in Argentina
46:43and he tells me
46:45Okay, tell us
46:46how was she after the accident?
46:47I don't know
46:48And I said
46:49I invented
46:50I swear
46:50Do you believe me?
46:51I don't lie.
46:53I swear I told him
46:54inventing
46:55doesn't know
46:56They didn't do anything to me.
46:56because at the moment
46:57right after the accident
46:58a parador dish came
46:59and he took me out of the place
47:00put another one
47:01I told him
47:02then he came out
47:03in the magazine
47:04that I was out of my mind
47:05that the accident
47:06It had left me stunned
47:07What a pity
47:08that he had lost
47:08my lucidity
47:09my intelligence
47:10my what do I know how much
47:12Now I can assure you
47:13and we discussed it
47:14a little at the beginning
47:15that after this experience
47:18I don't know if they left another one
47:20But what remained
47:20It's something that's much better.
47:22much healthier
47:23much more positive
47:24much healthier
47:26eager to find
47:27the coincidences
47:28hoping we can understand each other
47:30all
47:30What I would like to add
47:33what Carlos said
47:34that maybe
47:36the clash this
47:37Your being has given it to you
47:38your spirit
47:38Believe it or not.
47:39I don't believe in extraterrestrial beings
47:42get involved in history
47:43of humans
47:43They shouldn't get involved
47:45probably
47:46your own being
47:47He made you take the hit
47:48so that
47:48There is a lot of theory
47:49Jorge
47:49It's wonderful
47:50this story that he has told
47:51I have to go to court.
47:52should not
47:53and cannot
47:53I know that everyone believes
47:54that I'm crazy
47:55Carlitos says
47:56two years ago
47:57at Punta Deliste
47:58does more
47:58No
47:59He had an accident
48:01No, not much more.
48:01Which one in '91?
48:03in '91
48:03three years
48:04He was in a car accident
48:06and was on the verge of death
48:08today from the same place
48:09account
48:09who was saved
48:11by a flying saucer
48:12that his life changed
48:14since then
48:15that left
48:16drugs
48:17and the pills
48:18I don't know if you wanted them to give it to you.
48:19Yes, yes, I say so.
48:20Why would I change you?
48:21things
48:22We need to talk about it
48:23says that now
48:25is happy
48:26There it is
48:27sirs
48:28That's what's important.
48:29This is the testimony
48:30bigger
48:31that can give
48:32a person
48:33who gives a greeting
48:34I'm going to a break
48:34we're coming back
48:35And now, yes.
48:35we provide
48:36with a delicious
48:37Burgundy
48:37Santana
48:39There it is
48:39thank you
48:40red wine
48:41red wine
48:42with this rich Burgundy
48:46that Christ himself
48:48I was saying it
48:48This led me to
48:50to investigate the Bible
48:52to study the Bible
48:53to study
48:54other religions
48:55namely that
48:58that not only
48:59Jesus had come
49:00of a virgin mother
49:01but
49:02soroastro
49:03Krishna
49:04all the messiahs
49:05the entire messianic stage
49:06each one of them
49:07has had the same
49:08And how interesting!
49:09What is all this?
49:10And how do you start?
49:11With this, Mayorano?
49:12And I started one day
49:13when we left
49:14of a theater
49:15of Belleville
49:17that we were on tour
49:18making the days happy
49:19with a cast
49:21and coincidentally
49:22We were going with my sister
49:23by Zuma Fayá
49:24which I owe
49:24always
49:25with Virginia Fayá
49:28and we hit the road
49:30It was midnight
49:31at the nuns' school
49:32and well
49:33we saw a ship
49:34similar to the photo
49:34that I have brought
49:35from Puebla
49:36and it didn't go in
49:38within my code
49:39within my culture
49:40I wasn't there
49:41I consulted journalists
49:42to military
49:43to priests
49:44everyone was saying
49:45Yeah
49:46the possibility
49:46that it existed
49:47this phenomenon
49:48oh well
49:49They didn't deny it
49:50nor
49:51They blamed me
49:53and it was so big
49:55the emotion
49:56of what we saw
49:57that of a group
49:58of nine people
49:59Seven denied it
50:01to arrive
50:02fifteen
50:02fifteen kilometers
50:03in Villa María
50:04and I said
50:05Well
50:05I'm Colinos
50:06hills
50:10success
50:11It made me feel bad.
50:12as Carlitos says
50:14and through that
50:15Well
50:15Then we had the opportunity
50:16of traveling the world
50:17and bring
50:19I brought a little photo
50:20from Uruzbanistan
50:21of the caves
50:22which is very small
50:24and that has
50:24ten thousand years
50:25of antiquity
50:26where
50:27Here comes the photo
50:28in a hurry
50:29by our
50:29and meanwhile
50:30I'll show you.
50:31this book
50:31by Dante Franch
50:34the extraterrestrials
50:35and the cosmic plan
50:36that's how it is
50:36very good
50:37You know what I was saying
50:39Jorge
50:39It's authentic.
50:41and true
50:41she's small
50:43I will never forget
50:45And I tell him so.
50:45to the students
50:46permanently
50:47Fabio
50:49just a second
50:50no more
50:51We're seeing that.
50:53in a cave
50:53with a lot of imagination
50:55of beings
50:56We're talking
50:57ten thousand years
50:58of antiquity
50:59Where is this?
51:00Urzbanistan
51:01Russia
51:01Russia
51:02Yeah
51:02and appears
51:03the helmet
51:04cave paintings
51:05clear
51:06the helmet appears
51:07the flying saucer
51:08How wonderful!
51:09What imagination!
51:11what development
51:12of conscious right
51:13the natives had
51:14that is to say
51:15This is showing
51:15that we are united
51:17through
51:18I found something
51:19very similar
51:19in the same way
51:20a historical relationship
51:23when one investigates
51:24the UFO phenomenon
51:25check that in history
51:27human
51:28there are traces
51:29from the contact
51:29of these beings
51:30always
51:31We have images
51:32that you have brought
51:33She doesn't want me to see her.
51:34of course
51:34you too
51:35They agree
51:36let's see
51:36Mr. Director
51:37Let's see what we have.
51:38They are from Puebla
51:38Mexico
51:39their testimonies
51:40recording
51:42eclipse scenes
51:43it is calculated
51:44that the object
51:45remained
51:46in the area
51:47for thirteen minutes
51:49precisely
51:49from 1 p.m.
51:51with eighteen minutes
51:52until thirteen
51:54with thirty-one minutes
52:06the same day
52:07July 11
52:09of 1991
52:10during the eclipse
52:12total sun
52:13is captured
52:14a UFO
52:15about the city
52:16from Puebla
52:17upon observing
52:18the images
52:19it was found
52:20similarity
52:21to the UFO
52:21which was recorded
52:22about the city
52:23from Mexico
52:24also
52:24during the eclipse
52:26the coincidence
52:28It is remarkable
52:28UFOs of appearance
52:30similar
52:30in different cities
52:32at the same moment
52:33until now
52:35have been found
52:36three recordings
52:37that apparently
52:39present
52:40to the same object
52:41about the city
52:42from Puebla
52:43in two of them
52:45can be observed
52:46almost at first glance
52:48which is about
52:49of the same object
52:50metal
52:50that at that moment
52:52It was recorded
52:53also
52:53about the city
52:54from Mexico
52:55It is not known
52:57a situation
52:58similar
52:58in history
53:01in 1969
53:02how interesting
53:03this
53:03very interesting
53:04that he told me
53:05French
53:05who lived where
53:06this type of ship
53:07which is the same
53:07that has the photo
53:08This is it
53:09This is the one we show
53:09It's the ship
53:12photographed
53:13already in 1963
53:14in Abulquerque
53:14was seen
53:15in Argentina
53:16already by 1969
53:18and at that time
53:19a Saturday
53:20the Lord
53:21Nicolás Mancera
53:22and I remember
53:23that takes out
53:23the cameras
53:24and they film it
53:25a few seconds
53:25about Aeroparque
53:26I saw it
53:27physically
53:28It was a building
53:29lying down
53:30with the windows
53:31that were rotating
53:32and swaying
53:34gently
53:35so
53:36at the top of the obelisk
53:37it was also seen
53:37a UFO
53:38very similar
53:38that
53:39in 1965
53:40Do you remember when
53:41I don't know if it's true
53:42let's see
53:43let's see
53:43the case
53:44from the truck driver
53:45from Bahía Blanca
53:47What was his name?
53:48Dionisio Yanka
53:50What happened to him?
53:51Dr. Laceros?
53:52Do you remember?
53:53Well
53:53a case
53:54of a landing
53:55of a vehicle
53:56extraterrestrial directed
53:57And he says
53:58having seen
53:59around
53:59some entities
54:00beings like us
54:02was inside
54:03of the extraterrestrial spacecraft
54:04But I wanted to point out
54:05something very important
54:06in relation
54:06to what you were saying
54:07before Mirta
54:08that the governments
54:09They hide
54:10etc.
54:10and linked
54:11to Argentina
54:12Argentina
54:13has been
54:14one of the few
54:16countries
54:16that in the order
54:18of the armed forces
54:19acknowledged
54:20existence
54:22of flying objects
54:23unidentified
54:24a statement
54:25of the Navy
54:26Argentina
54:27when over the island
54:29about the detachment
54:30exceptional naval
54:31objects appeared
54:33unidentified flying objects
54:34that made them jump
54:36magnetometers
54:38from the base
54:38that is to say
54:39some devices
54:40that measure
54:42magnetic intensity
54:43of the terrestrial field
54:44this jumped
54:46He couldn't stand the attention
54:48at a pace
54:50of these UFOs
54:51in the sector
54:51Argentine Antarctic
54:52and recognized
54:53by the Navy
54:54of our country
54:55And there is the case
54:56from a satellite
54:57that was placed
54:57in the United States
54:58about the Uri Toro
54:59in 1990
55:01I think it's a story
55:04what they have done to us
55:04to everyone
55:05of a person
55:06or a marriage
55:07a couple
55:08that they were in a car
55:09and that suddenly
55:09They appeared in Mexico
55:11the famous Vidal case
55:11the Vidal marriage
55:13exactly
55:41Vidal existed
55:43No
55:44What is it that you want to know?
55:45whether it's true or not
55:46and he told me
55:49the Vidal marriage
55:50exists
55:51But his name isn't Vidal.
55:54Congratulations
55:55for today's table
55:56It's a very interesting topic
55:58It lacks publicity
55:59that you give
55:59Aurora of Capilla del Monte
56:00It's fair
56:01beside
56:02must have seen
56:03some sure
56:04Let's go to the book
56:05because the aliens
56:06they are invading us
56:07come on
56:07come on
56:08come on
56:08there
56:10Do you know the
56:11Do you have round little bags?
56:13watch it here
56:14Oh, how cool!
56:15It's a brilliant idea.
56:16of Virginia
56:17in the foreground
56:19Mr. Director
56:20if you would be so kind
56:21thank you so much
56:21Yes, I have Fargo products.
56:23Virginia tea and coffee
56:24delicious
56:24and chofitol
56:25natural digestive
56:27for after death
56:29I'll be with you right away
56:30Yes, that's how my life is.
56:32thanks a lot
56:33for having accompanied us
56:34They will be with us tomorrow.
56:35Mr. Juan Carlos
56:36Tito Lecture
56:37Mrs. Queen Rich
56:38Dr. Juan José Juliá
56:40T. Macrotoxin
56:41and Tomás Teche
56:43flag bearer of the National College
56:45Buenos Aires
56:45I fell short with the program
56:47a lot of things
56:48see you tomorrow
56:49at one o'clock
56:49at the top of the afternoon
56:51Well, let it end.
56:51very good
56:52this holiday
56:53come in
56:54be with the family
56:54Enjoy
56:55Be happy, gentlemen
56:56that life is short
56:58see you tomorrow
56:58at one o'clock
56:59through the middle
57:00bye
57:00thank you so much
57:01thank you
57:01thank you
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