00:05I don't think there was any way for Andy and I to predict where we were going when we were
00:09young.
00:14It was something we did because we loved it, truly, making games.
00:18I had always thought that Andy and I as a team were going to be successful,
00:22but you know, Naughty Dog, who would have thought he would create Naughty Dog?
00:39It wasn't like, oh, let's found a video game street now.
00:41We're 15.
00:42Beats mowing lawns.
00:43His father said, that's the dumbest thing you're ever going to do.
00:46I mean, you were on computers.
00:47What were you doing?
00:48We thought Crash would do pretty well.
00:50We didn't anticipate it being the number one brand for PlayStation.
00:53At that point, we still weren't quite sure what we had.
00:56We were just blown away.
00:57We were like, how are they doing that?
00:59It just kept on selling and kept on selling and didn't slow, in fact it gained.
01:03And so Naughty Dog went through explosive growth.
01:06Hire big, think big.
01:07Let's put everything we have into making these games.
01:15We wanted to stop building levels and build worlds.
01:18We are making the games that we want to play.
01:20It takes a lot of sweat, sometimes tears.
01:24What was hard about making Uncharted, like everything.
01:26The Last of Us was the hardest game that I've ever made.
01:29The team that we built was a crash team.
01:31And then suddenly we have to design this grounded game.
01:35The Last of Us was even harder because it got even more grounded.
01:37And our eyes were too big for our sons.
01:39We didn't really know what we were doing as far as the tech.
01:42I had somebody come in my office quitting like every single week.
01:45We were losing more people than we were hiring.
01:47And there was a sense that Naughty Dog was a sinking ship.
01:57Naughty Dog's secret has always been to hire the best people possible.
02:01And now people do say, that's a Naughty Dog game.
02:04I know it's going to be quality because I know that team.
02:07When I was like...
02:08Well, people do say goodbye.
02:25Don't ever try to
