00:00Coda? Yeah. Hey, it's Officer Rugebrecht with the Harriman Police Department. I was the
00:06primary officer earlier that you were talking to. Oh, yeah. So I had a question for you.
00:13Yeah. There were some statements made on the way to the jail and at the jail by Taylor.
00:23One of the things that she was saying was that, like, do you remember her peeing her pants
00:32at all throughout the night? No, never once. One time I pulled over for her and then the
00:38other time, well, by that time I think we were at her house. Oh, no, no. I pulled over
00:43two times for her, actually. Okay. And so it wasn't like she peed her pants.
00:51When you picked her up? No. And then once you got home and you guys were kind of arguing
00:58and having the altercation, did she, did she pee herself then? No. Okay. And so at any point
01:11in time in the night, did you, like, could you tell that she peed herself? No, never. The
01:19only thing I could even think of if she was wet because I was drenched on my backside was
01:25because she was throwing my truck. She threw an entire water thing at my face and it exploded
01:32everywhere in my truck. So all over my seats was soaking wet. So, I mean, yeah, I, I, and
01:39to be honest with you, that's like, I would have never have noticed even if she did. So
01:43there's a good chance she could have, but I would have never noticed. Okay. So in her,
01:49her, in her words, she is, she's saying that she, like, because of the way that you were
01:57acting, um, that she peed herself as a result of it. She's saying that she was so scared that
02:10she peed. Oh my gosh, no. And so, and she made that, like, she made that point multiple
02:18times when it, so when I, when I first arrived at the, at the house, I, I don't remember ever
02:28seeing her pee herself and like, and like, I feel like that's something that I would have
02:35easily recognized. Absolutely. I, yeah, that's a lie. I mean, she's, she's just lying. That's
02:42not true. And I mean, this could also be part of the intoxication, but like, yeah, there was
02:50a point with officer Felsing when she went upstairs and, uh, to, to use the bathroom. Cause
03:00I mean, usually when people drink a lot, they have to go to the bathroom a lot. That's, that's
03:04a normal behavior. Yeah. She had to pee a bunch. She kept telling me that she was like,
03:09like, I, I pulled over for her to pee once and then I drove like, I don't know, another
03:14like five minutes. And then she was like, I have to pee so bad again. And I was like,
03:17okay, well I was like, and there was a gas station that was closed. Oh. And then I was
03:23like, can we, can you make it to this gas station? I was like, not far. It was like a
03:26minute
03:26drive. And she literally opened the door to my truck and she wasn't buckled up. And so
03:33I grabbed her because I was like, I don't know what she's going to do. And then I, I
03:38had to pull over. So then I just pulled over on the side of the road so she could pee.
03:41Uh huh. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So I'm okay. Cause I like, when it comes to like domestic violence
03:51stuff, it is very common for, um, like someone in that type of situation to pee themselves.
03:59Um, and that's, that's why I felt like I needed to ask.
04:03Yeah. No, I mean, if she pees off, I mean, it's purely cause she was just so intoxicated.
04:09Okay. Okay. Yeah. Did. Okay. Officer Felsing, officer Felsing walked you through the, um, lethality
04:20assessment and explained it all and all that stuff. Yeah, he did. Okay. Okay, good. I just
04:26want to make sure everything like you're taking care of and all that. Um, did he explain to
04:33you the, um, the protective order, like the no contact order? Oh yeah. So is it like,
04:42so I can't, I can't reach out to her, right? I wouldn't. Um, like she's, she's not allowed
04:51to talk to you until you guys see a judge and that protective order. Um, like that, that's
05:00the main thing. It's to prevent further violence and harassment and all that stuff. So I understand
05:05that you care about her and love her and all that stuff, right? Yeah. Help her by not facilitating
05:14that. Like if she reaches out to you, honestly, I wouldn't even respond because you know, like
05:22I'm telling you right now how, uh, how much trouble she'd be in if she violates that. Okay.
05:30Yeah, I won't, I won't. That's like, I wouldn't even say like be patient. I wouldn't like, yeah,
05:36like just help her because I'm not sure if she'll understand that. Okay. And I told her parents
05:45to tell her that too, like help her, help herself by not violating that and just be patient and wait
05:53to see a judge first and then, and then go from there. Okay. I mean, it's, it's not like it,
06:02uh,
06:03it's not forever, but I don't want to see her get into more trouble than she already is.
06:11Okay. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. I don't want her to get in more trouble either. So yeah, I won't.
06:18So do you, I didn't get a chance to talk to you anymore, uh, before I left. Do you have
06:24any other
06:24questions as far as tonight? Um, no, I mean, cause that was the only follow-up question I had for
06:33you.
06:34Yeah. I mean, honestly, so how, like she, in her point of view,
06:40in her point of view, you pushed her first. So she was justified in everything else.
06:47Oh my gosh. No, not, not true at all.
06:50So I told her, I told her that you were trying to leave and she wasn't leaving you alone. And
06:58perhaps you like tried to push her to create some space, but she's drunk and then stumbled and fell.
07:07Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I'm fighting for my life, dude. I'm like, I'm trying to literally
07:12leave this house.
07:18So at this point, uh, like when you pushed her, things had already escalated, correct?
07:26Oh yeah. Oh yeah. They were, they were already very escalated. Like I, I think at that point was
07:33when I was literally trying to get in my truck to leave and she was attacking me. So I literally
07:39pushed her off me so I could try to get in my truck. Did officer, did officer Felsing send you
07:46a link yet to upload that video? Okay. No. So part of the reason to upload that video, like,
07:55again, I understand you don't want her to get into more trouble. You don't want her to get into
07:59trouble at all. But part of this is also protecting yourself because of her recollection of tonight's
08:08event. That's true. That makes sense. Okay. I don't know how things are going to go at court and
08:14I don't know how she's going to be when she's sobered up. Yeah. It is, it is in your best
08:21interest to upload that video in the event that she's like, she's already made these allegations.
08:27Right. Yeah. And yeah, that's true. That's scary. Yeah. That's scary. Like you're like, dude,
08:34like I don't want this at all. And I'm not sure she does either, but the fact of the matter
08:41is, it happened. Right. And I'm hoping, and again, my hope is that this is a wake-up call
08:49for her to, like, I don't know her history with alcohol, but maybe it hasn't been the
08:56best. No, it hasn't. Not for her. And like, especially when, like her, and I explained this
09:04to her at the jail, I was like, your daughter saw all of that. And I was in, like, cause
09:13that, yeah, that, that's not acceptable. Like, first of all, violence is not acceptable in
09:17the first place, but the fact that her daughter saw all of it, like.
09:24Yeah. And that's, that was the biggest reasoning for me. Like, literally trying to leave was
09:29like, for that reason. Like, I was like, I'm not doing this in front of your kids. Like,
09:34let me out. Yeah. And like, I, I feel bad. Cause that, that's the, that like you were victimized,
09:42but like, and this is just my opinion at this point, my, the true victim here is her daughter,
09:50like seeing all of this, not understanding it, like maybe even internalizing it, thinking
09:56it's her fault for whatever reason. Yeah. That's, that's not cool. And so anyway, I could
10:04go on and on, but I won't. No, you're good. Yeah. I mean, I'm right there with you. I agree
10:12100%. I just think honestly right now, I'm just like in a lot of shock. I just like, I just
10:17can't even like process what just happened. Yeah. So I'll, uh, yeah, I'll send you that
10:23link to this call number and then you just upload it to the, to the link. Okay. I can
10:31do that. Thank you, sir. I appreciate it. Okay. If you have any questions, um, again,
10:36I'm officer Ruger Brecht, Harriman police department. You can just contact dispatch and, uh, they
10:42can either get you to me or, um, you contact the Harriman police department and ask for my email
10:49or something. Okay. I can do that. Thank you. Okay. Um, yeah, just stand by for that link
10:55and I'll send it once I get to, uh, off the freeway. Okay. Perfect. Sounds good. Okay. Thanks.
11:00Bye. Yep. Bye.
11:06Dakota. Yeah. Hey, sorry. I, uh, I just wanted to clarify that. So that like, that's a detail
11:14that I didn't get before, but that's like, that's important to have. So she's throwing
11:22the chairs at you. Yeah. And you're trying to protect, you're trying to protect because
11:28she's on the couch. Yeah. She's on the couch. And then like what happened in your point of
11:34view? Yeah. So when she started throwing the chairs, that's why even in the video, like
11:39I think I said it right when she threw the first one, I said right here and then she
11:44threw another one. And then that's when I was like getting nervous. So I went to like
11:49hover about to protect her, which maybe I shouldn't have done that. But, and then she threw another
11:56chair. I deflected it with my arm, but it still like hit her and like, you know, bounced down
12:02the chair and hit her. Okay. Yeah. So it wasn't like, she was throwing the chair at you and
12:11then you blocked it. And when you blocked it, it hit me in the head. Yeah, she did not, yeah,
12:16she wasn't throwing it. Okay. Did, like, and it's, it's hard to hear, but I hear you kind of
12:26start crying like, like, like hard cry because she got hit. Yeah, she got hit. Okay. Do you
12:34know where in the head she got hit? I have no idea. I every, um, you can like hear me
12:39trying
12:39to like check on her, but every time I tried to like talk or like help her, I was, I
12:46was
12:46getting attacked. So I couldn't. Okay. All right. Thanks for, thanks for telling me that
12:54because like, I didn't get the chance to see the entire video on scene, especially not
12:59on like a computer screen rather than, rather than a phone screen. Yeah. Um, but now that
13:05like listening to it and watching it like full screen, um, you could definitely tell like
13:12the close proximity. Yeah. And all that stuff. Yeah. And then, and yeah, like I, I had to
13:21like hold her down cause I was like, she wouldn't stop throwing stuff there. So I tried to like,
13:25just like hold her, like squeeze her, like almost like a bear hug. And then, yeah, I mean,
13:31yeah. And then she just started hitting me again, but yeah, it was, uh, yeah, dude. So bad.
13:40All right. Uh, well try and get some sleep. All right. Uh, if I have any questions, further
13:46questions or follow up or anything like that, I'll just call you tomorrow. Okay. Sounds
13:50good. Thank you again, ma'am. Okay. Sounds good. See ya. All right. See ya.
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