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Ramazan Sevinci 19. Bölüm | Peren Birsaygılı Mut & Cem Uçan (09 Mart 2026)
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00:00:08In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
00:00:17In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
00:00:18Nine-year-old Yasin was all alone.
00:00:21He was in a hospital in southern Gaza.
00:00:25He was lying on the floor in the hospital corridor.
00:00:28The area was full of wounded people, and there was tremendous chaos.
00:00:34Yasin was also covered in cuts and bruises.
00:00:36His clothes were covered in dust; he waited helplessly.
00:00:41Yasin didn't feel the pain and was replaying in his mind an act his mother had performed for him.
00:00:49Her mother had left a note on her leg, written in blue pen.
00:00:55Yasin pictured the scene where he wrote that letter.
00:00:59And the war had intensified so much that bombs were raining down from the sky.
00:01:04As the warplanes approached the neighborhood, a deafening roar and terror filled the air.
00:01:11Yasin remembered his mother calling him.
00:01:15Her mother called her over and tried to write something on her leg with a pen.
00:01:21Yasin asked his mother in astonishment.
00:01:23Mommy, what are you doing?
00:01:25Hiding her tears, his mother asked him how he would find himself if he got lost in this crowd.
00:01:33But only by this method, that is, by writing his name, surname and identity on his leg with a blue pen.
00:01:41As Yasin thought about these things and the scene, his eyes filled with even more tears.
00:01:47And suddenly he felt a bomb fall on their house, but he couldn't feel anything after that.
00:01:56Civil defense teams pulled Yasin from the rubble.
00:02:00But they couldn't reach his mother and father.
00:02:03While Yasin was lying in the corridor thinking about these things, a nurse came to him.
00:02:09And his apron was covered in blood.
00:02:12He stroked Yasin's head, his attention drawn to the writing on his leg, written with a blue pen.
00:02:19He tried to read it and realized it was an important mark, a sign left for him.
00:02:28He wrote a note on the file in front of him: "Injured child with no family."
00:02:35Yasin understood too.
00:02:37Actually, her mother did this not to avoid losing her, but so that she would have a name, so that she wouldn't be found nameless in mass graves.
00:02:48Yes, dear viewers, that writing on Yasin's knee, that ink, will one day disappear.
00:02:55But Yasin's loneliness, helplessness, and isolation will never disappear.
00:03:03And again, this behavior, these atrocities committed, will never be erased from those memories.
00:03:12Dear viewers, I have very important guests today.
00:03:16We will talk about Palestine, we will talk about Gaza.
00:03:19I want to announce it to them right away.
00:03:21Author Peren, Bir Saygılı Mut, and actor Cem Uçan will be with us.
00:03:27Please don't leave us.
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00:12:35So, actually, Palestinian literature has a very deep-rooted history, and knowing this is very, very important for a better understanding.
00:12:44for.
00:12:45Because literature is actually the mirror of a society, and the most important mirror of a society is literature.
00:12:50Literature is actually the best way to convey a society's experiences, its sorrows, joys, the happiness and sadness of its memories.
00:12:57Aren't the reasons given there very good, Ms. Peren?
00:13:01So they're saying that in order to keep alive a life, a geography that is being threatened with destruction, they are putting it into verses, they are writing.
00:13:11This is a sentence with a very deep meaning.
00:13:14Although it's a phrase frequently repeated today, my esteemed professor, it's actually a phrase that originated 100 years ago.
00:13:22Palestinian literature, in its early stages, had two fundamental aims.
00:13:27In the first one, they say that our most important goal is to keep the memory alive.
00:13:32Why keep the memory alive?
00:13:34Because, as we know, the real aim of Zionism and Israel was not just to expel Palestinians from their lands.
00:13:39The goal was to completely eradicate the Palestinian identity, beliefs, and culture.
00:13:44In fact, this is the most dangerous aspect of the occupation.
00:13:47If you'll allow me, I'd like to talk about the great Akif again.
00:13:50Can we really forget that we have a poet named Mehmet Akif?
00:13:55This is not just about forgetting the existence of someone like Mehmet Akif; it's also a huge erosion of our identity, our culture, and our beliefs.
00:14:04In that sense, Palestinian writers have always said the same thing.
00:14:07We will keep the memory alive.
00:14:09We have a primary role to play in preserving Palestinian identity by keeping the memory of Palestine alive through various means of literature, such as novels, short stories, and poetry.
00:14:19They intended to do this because it was necessary.
00:14:21Regarding the sentence you mentioned, esteemed professor, our esteemed Professor Ibrahim Nassallah recently visited Türkiye, and he is one of the greatest figures in Palestine...
00:14:28He is one of the writers and poets.
00:14:30Since October 7th, they have been hosted in our country 4-5 times, thank God.
00:14:34He said, "Professor, we know why you write, but could you please explain it yourself?"
00:14:40He told me, "We always write with this purpose."
00:14:42We must write it in such a way that they can never kill it again.
00:14:46There's a mosque that you bombed over there; I must write about it in such a way that it continues to live on vividly in people's memories.
00:14:54That was actually a very impressive statement, my esteemed professor.
00:14:58These are both painful and, at the same time, the pinnacle expressions of a society's struggle for survival, its fight to stand tall in its geography.
00:15:10Of course, of course, sir.
00:15:14Master, of course, as an actor, as an artist, and also as someone who lives in their own spiritual world, you experience the holy month of Ramadan...
00:15:25There are undoubtedly events that have touched your life, things that have influenced you since childhood.
00:15:33First of all, in terms of these transitional feelings, could you evaluate the holy month of Ramadan from your personal perspective?
00:15:41I was born in 1976, dear professor.
00:15:44I turned 50.
00:15:47So you grew up in Lüleburgaz, by the way.
00:15:49Of course, I belong to a family from Sandžak, a Bosniak family from Novi Pazan, a large family, but my father's ancestors were from there.
00:15:56When they arrived, my grandfathers, my paternal grandmother, my maternal grandmother.
00:15:58I was born and raised in Lüleburgaz, but I spent a very large part of my life in Istanbul.
00:16:02Of course, that's just where I spent my childhood.
00:16:05Before I say anything about Ramadan, there are things I agree with very much, sir.
00:16:10Being alone is the hardest thing in the world. I know a rule of empathy that is very strong when it comes to Palestine.
00:16:19I can deeply empathize with the situation in Srebrenica, Bosnia, during the massacre between 1993 and 1997, and with the feeling of being alone there.
00:16:31Europe watched a massacre, a genocide, unfold before its very eyes, as if they were watching a movie.
00:16:37And unfortunately, a genocide is currently taking place in Palestine before the eyes of the world, and they are watching it.
00:16:45I was just trying to show it to my friends inside as well.
00:16:48The other day, a little baby monkey, having no mother, hugged a toy monkey and used it as a mother figure, and this went viral, shared by millions worldwide.
00:16:59It caused it.
00:17:00Yes, it was a very dramatic moment.
00:17:01The drama of an animal without a mother has resonated with people for too long.
00:17:07Or that penguin that got separated from its flock and went alone among the ice got millions of shares.
00:17:15Yes, it was a penguin on a journey to its death.
00:17:19Isn't it dramatic at all that a 4-year-old girl is trying to get her 2.5-year-old sister, who is dying, to recite the Shahada (declaration of faith)?
00:17:28not?
00:17:28Didn't this affect these people at all, as much as a penguin and a monkey could?
00:17:33Yes.
00:17:33Did it have no effect at all?
00:17:34Why haven't we seen millions or billions of posts about this around the world?
00:17:38Loneliness is very difficult.
00:17:41Being alone is very difficult.
00:17:42There is a genocide going on there, and it is being perpetrated without any regard for the lives of tiny children, women, or the elderly, without any consideration for their status or circumstances.
00:17:54They are killing.
00:17:54There is no war there.
00:17:56There is a genocide and massacre going on there.
00:18:00Now, while all this is happening there, while wars are breaking out all over the world, in the Middle East, we are enjoying peace in our own country.
00:18:11We are able to observe the month of Ramadan as if there were no Ramadan-related issues within it.
00:18:19We are able to spend the month.
00:18:21Yes, I remember it being much more precious in my childhood.
00:18:24We would run home when my mother shouted from the balcony that the lamps had been lit.
00:18:31It was very valuable.
00:18:32Everything was very precious, but unfortunately, teacher, many things, our customs and traditions, I say this with great sadness.
00:18:40It's on the verge of being too assimilated.
00:18:43I live in the Kadıköy district, on the other side of the city, as you can see our viewers here.
00:18:48Last night, on my way home, I passed through a street and it seemed as if Ramadan hadn't visited at all.
00:18:58As if he'd never been there.
00:18:59This is truly heartbreaking, it hurts the heart.
00:19:01Even non-Muslims wouldn't eat or drink anything during Ramadan when we were children.
00:19:06Or because they know our religion, Atmettin, very well, or because they know our customs and traditions well, they are with us.
00:19:15They acted like Muslims.
00:19:16It was as if they weren't fasting that day.
00:19:19Now, when you go out, you can see some very interesting sights of our own people.
00:19:25Before Iftar time.
00:19:27This is very sad.
00:19:28Of course, perhaps with the joy that comes from that childhood spirit, you can't experience the same pleasure, taste, and flavor of those Ramadans anymore.
00:19:36But now
00:19:36That's why we should never disregard our customs, traditions, respect for elders, and respect within the family.
00:19:46We need to make this the center of our lives.
00:19:47Ferin Hanım said, "Ferin Hanım, you're not just destroying a society physically, are you?"
00:19:55For example, the topic you mentioned is directly related to that.
00:19:58So when you destroy the culture, the traditions, the beauties belonging to that civilization, the respect for one another, you are actually destroying society while it is still alive.
00:20:10You are destroying it.
00:20:11Actually, professor, this is a subject that is very much his area of expertise, but I predict that within 50 years...
00:20:20In the world today, these huge missiles, bombs, guns, planes—the biggest weapons you can ever see—will no longer exist.
00:20:28Why won't it stay?
00:20:29Because you portray the concept of family through things like TV series, or within the global film industry, or through projects published on international platforms.
00:20:39If you're placing that bomb in the middle of the living room, even for a family of three,
00:20:45If you can take away those customs, traditions, mutual respect, manners, morals, faith, and beliefs from that family, then that family will never belong there in the first place.
00:20:57You don't need to fire a bullet or drop a bomb.
00:20:59During that process, one completely realizes that in a place where there is no belief, where there is no faith, there can be neither justice nor family unity.
00:21:07Then there would be neither a state nor a nation.
00:21:09Nothing will happen.
00:21:10Thanks.
00:21:11Exactly.
00:21:12Ms. Peren, of course, women and children are usually the biggest victims of war.
00:21:19There have been examples of this throughout history.
00:21:23But putting aside the maternal aspects of women, who truly raise and nurture our generations and prepare us for the future...
00:21:33They have also put in a tremendous amount of effort in their struggles.
00:21:35So, let's think like Nene Hatun in defending our homeland.
00:21:39So, in Palestine too, mothers are experiencing such pain that they can easily collect the remains of the children they raised from under the rubble.
00:21:51But they are also showing tremendous resilience.
00:21:55Through the partnership they formed there.
00:21:59Let's talk about these a little, if you'd like.
00:22:01Of course, my esteemed professor.
00:22:02Actually, there are many important things we need to talk about regarding Palestine.
00:22:06There are numerous points, esteemed professor.
00:22:08One of the most important issues we need to discuss is the plight of Palestinian women.
00:22:13What do we mean when we say Palestinian woman?
00:22:15Sometimes, a Palestinian woman, the mother of a martyr, looks us in the eye.
00:22:20Sometimes, amidst the rubble of her destroyed home, she stands tall and looks directly into the eyes of the world.
00:22:25Sometimes, sadly, a woman looks into the eyes of the world as she lays her own child to rest in the ground with her own hands.
00:22:32But Palestinian women have one thing in common.
00:22:35By standing tall and upright, the Palestinian woman was essentially looking the world in the eyes.
00:22:40We are seeing many striking examples of this in Gaza today.
00:22:44In Gaza, our sisters, our mothers, our daughters have been putting up a truly tremendous resistance since October 7th.
00:22:51But this also has a history, a long history, my dear professor.
00:22:54Again, from 1917 and from very early periods after the Ottoman withdrawal from the region, the Palestinian Women's Movement has also played a very important role within the Palestinian resistance.
00:23:03We see that it emerged in a significant way very early on, starting from the 1920s.
00:23:10The first example is the establishment of the Palestinian Women's Union in 1921.
00:23:14By 1929, this organization was growing even larger, becoming even more widespread.
00:23:18It is spreading to all Palestinian cities.
00:23:19So, in Palestine, we learned about women's testimony during the British Mandate period, a time when Zionist immigration was very intense.
00:23:27In all the massacres that took place before the Nakba, because Israel is a state founded on massacres.
00:23:32During the Nakba, over 400 villages were burned and destroyed, 1.5 million people were displaced, and then in the 1967 Arab-Israeli War, 1973
00:23:41In the Battle of Yumkipr,
00:23:42In the First Intifada, in the Second Intifada, and now in Gaza, we are actually looking at Palestine, to a very large extent, through the eyes of Palestinian women, dear women.
00:23:51my teacher.
00:23:52And it's actually very impressive that there are women's stories in there.
00:23:55If you'll allow me, I'd also like to briefly share one.
00:23:58Now, what we've always said is that Israel is a state founded on massacres.
00:24:03He frequently draws on historical artifacts from our country, other Islamic countries, and various other countries.
00:24:08Meanwhile, we are talking about the Nakba, a great catastrophe, a period in which thousands, even hundreds of thousands, of Palestinians were first driven from their lands.
00:24:20That's the beginning, the beginning of that disaster.
00:24:23Yes, May 14, 1948 is the date we call Nakba, the great catastrophe.
00:24:28Before the great catastrophe, the Nakba, numerous massacres had already been committed by Zionist gangs in the Palestinian territories.
00:24:35In mosques, schools, and marketplaces, my esteemed teacher, and that is precisely why we emphasize that Israel is a state founded on massacres.
00:24:45The last and largest of these massacres took place on April 9, 1948, in Deryas' village, my esteemed professor.
00:24:53Over 300 Palestinians were brutally murdered, just like in Gaza today, in a very vile manner, even women were stabbed in the stomach or back.
00:25:02They were martyred by being stabbed and shot.
00:25:06So, when over 300 Palestinian villagers were martyred there, 70-80 of them were children, all of whom had mothers...
00:25:14Their fathers are being killed right before their eyes.
00:25:17They start walking towards the outskirts of the village, my dear teacher. They're left stranded, orphaned and abandoned.
00:25:22That day, a woman named Hind al-Husseini arrived from Jerusalem.
00:25:26Remember that Palestinian women's movement we were talking about earlier, when it emerged in the early 1920s?
00:25:32He arrives at Deryas' village and sees 70-80 children outside the village, some crying, others standing in shock.
00:25:39There's no way around it, but Deryas runs back to Jerusalem, about 20 kilometers away, and explains the situation.
00:25:47He saw it in the village of [name].
00:25:48So, a family friend helps out, arranging transportation and all that, and after sorting out the other details, he comes and picks up all the kids in Jerusalem.
00:25:56'e takes it back.
00:25:57This woman, named Hint El Hüseyni, is establishing an orphanage for those children, and despite never having married or been a mother, Deryas
00:26:05She is referred to as the mother of the orphans.
00:26:06This is actually just one example we can give.
00:26:09There are countless life stories like this in Palestine.
00:26:12There is something that absolutely must be known, especially by us, and indeed, by our women.
00:26:19We could also highlight this point, for example, my esteemed professors.
00:26:23Unfortunately, today there is a certain perception imposed on us regarding female beauty.
00:26:28There is a Western perception of beauty.
00:26:30They say, "Her eyebrows should be like this, her eyes like that, that's what makes her beautiful."
00:26:34But we can actually say that we are an example that we can confidently give to the whole world when asked who a beautiful woman is.
00:26:42I think we can say that Palestinian women are beautiful women.
00:26:46That's great, thank you!
00:26:48You said that our women need to know this, could you elaborate on that sentence?
00:26:55Of course, of course.
00:26:55Why should we know, right?
00:26:57Palestine may seem like a very distant place to us, but in reality, it's very close.
00:27:02They are very close, I'll give you an example to illustrate how close they are.
00:27:05We get together and chat with young people a lot, dear professor.
00:27:09It's so recent that our great-grandfathers were born as citizens of the same empire.
00:27:15Today, there was essentially no difference between Gaza and Erzurum, or between Jerusalem and Istanbul.
00:27:19This picture needs to be seen from this perspective as well.
00:27:21Our women also need to know this.
00:27:23Especially during Ramadan, my dear teacher.
00:27:25There are also some important values that we absolutely must remember.
00:27:30Here's what it means to be content, to be patient, to have faith, or to put one's dignity above all else, like a woman.
00:27:36Palestinian women share these very important aspirations.
00:27:39They actually show us all these beautiful values in a very vivid way, through real-life experiences.
00:27:44We said it was beautiful, but when we think about why we said it was beautiful, we can never say this:
00:27:49They are beautiful because, in fact, I have never seen a Palestinian woman compromise her dignity, even in the face of the heaviest price.
00:27:56My most valued teacher so far in my life.
00:27:58Or it cannot be weighed on any scale, nor can it be the subject of any bargaining.
00:28:03So, in this modern world of ours, all this corruption, as our esteemed professor said,
00:28:08Despite all these attacks on the concept of family, the Palestinian people stand firm and largely preserve everything that needs to be protected.
00:28:17Woman.
00:28:18And while doing this, it's also under the fire of tank cannons.
00:28:21Yes, for a person to be an exemplary mother, a woman, with dignity, honor, resilience, patience, gratitude, and nobility, even in the most difficult circumstances.
00:28:35Isn't that very valuable, master?
00:28:37The most valuable thing in the world.
00:28:38I always try to express this, even among my friends (and I hope my father doesn't take offense), in my conversations.
00:28:45Anyone in the world can be their father's son, but I am my mother's son.
00:28:48Every lion in the world is born of a mother.
00:28:51There is no life, nothing, anywhere without women.
00:28:55We have seen this throughout our own history, in Turkish history, in Ottoman history, and in our recent history, and we saw it again on July 15th.
00:29:01Sisters like Fatma, grandmothers like Nene Hatun, and Black Fatmas—these are our ancestors.
00:29:05These are women, and they are incredibly strong.
00:29:09That's what's so valuable.
00:29:10Indeed, when God created man, He created him strong, powerful, and courageous.
00:29:16But when you see the struggle of people there who are as delicate and fragile as women, living almost like flowers,
00:29:25They showed the whole world how even a woman can resist when it comes to homeland, children, mother, father, and flag.
00:29:35I have a little anecdote I'd like to share, professor.
00:29:39There is a region called Tuzla in Bosnia.
00:29:42Above that area, as I just described from inside, there are about 3-5 houses.
00:29:49To a 95-year-old woman living in a rickety wooden hut on one of these mountain ridges,
00:29:56Our service staff at TIKA (Turkish Cooperation and Coordination Agency) are kindly delivering supplies during Ramadan.
00:30:02When they knocked on the door and the lady opened it, he said, "Are you Turkish?"
00:30:06This is the Turk that the world awaits.
00:30:08Not what was expected.
00:30:09Are you Turkish?
00:30:11Auntie, how do you know we're Turkish?
00:30:13Hey, how old are you?
00:30:14What are you doing up here in the mountains?
00:30:16Why are you waiting here at this age?
00:30:18"My son," he says, "400 years ago you said we would come, you told me to wait."
00:30:21So it is such a precious thing, that we are the ones who are awaited, that we have faith, that we extend a hand with love,
00:30:30We saw this in Syria as well, the incredible successes we've experienced recently.
00:30:34Hallelujah.
00:30:34Unbelievable.
00:30:35In Gaza too.
00:30:36But people want everyone to come home politically and sit down and explain to everyone what they did in Gaza, what they did in Syria, and so on.
00:30:45Let him explain it alone.
00:30:46That's not what the state should be like.
00:30:47Yes.
00:30:49They did such good things, they provided such great help.
00:30:53As I said earlier, the nearest fire zone is in the Middle East, and here we are, sitting on the edge of the Bosphorus.
00:30:58We are filming a live broadcast program.
00:31:00Is there a greater blessing for us than this?
00:31:03Not even a single stone is falling on our country.
00:31:06I would like to once again respectfully acknowledge everyone who contributed to this.
00:31:11Both politically and officially, may God bless them all.
00:31:14Thanks.
00:31:15Thanks.
00:31:16Ms. Peren, of course, resistance isn't limited to just one area: armed physical resistance.
00:31:23Actually, you too are always trying to keep the issue of literary resistance on the agenda.
00:31:28And you are one of the very few researchers working in this field.
00:31:33You address these issues through your writings and books.
00:31:38This is your book, Izzettin Kassam, isn't it?
00:31:41Yes, Izzettin Kassam.
00:31:42These are really...
00:31:43Yes.
00:31:44And it's also very valuable that you, as a female writer, are bringing these issues to the forefront.
00:31:51So how does literature represent resistance in Palestine?
00:31:55Actually, there's something else, sir.
00:31:57As I mentioned earlier, with the Balfour Declaration in 1917, unfortunately, a British mandate was established, and Jewish immigration to the region began.
00:32:05And if we consider what has been happening in Palestine since then, is this what is happening?
00:32:10In reality, this is a massive Zionist propaganda campaign.
00:32:13They say this happened because Palestinians sold their land.
00:32:15That's completely irrelevant.
00:32:16In reality, ever since the Ottomans withdrew from the region in 1917, things in Palestine have never settled down, my esteemed professor.
00:32:24Uprisings are breaking out in all of Palestine's cities.
00:32:28For example, in 1920 in Jaffa, in Jerusalem, in 1923 in Jaffa, Gaza, Haifa, in Nablus, Ramallah, in 1929, and again a large uprising in Palestine between 1936-39.
00:32:39We see that it has come out.
00:32:40The reason is that when we look at the platform during that period, we see the great writers and poets of Palestine during all these rebellions and uprisings.
00:32:49We see you, esteemed professor, addressing the public from the podium.
00:32:52And they all have one characteristic.
00:32:54They were all born during the Ottoman era.
00:32:56Their initial education actually came during the Ottoman period, with that kind of upbringing.
00:32:59After the Ottomans withdrew from the region, they began to use these pens to defend their homeland.
00:33:06And when we look at the podium, he didn't really deliver an incredibly effective speech to the Palestinian people, he didn't call on the Palestinian people to resist, he didn't call on them to fight.
00:33:16And they did not explain what was happening in their countries, in their homelands.
00:33:19They possess immense power.
00:33:20Like Halide Edip Adıvar's rally in Sultanahmet, or like Mehmet Akif's speeches from the pulpit of Fatih Mosque, we...
00:33:29We are witnessing hundreds of speeches and protests taking place in all the cities of Palestine.
00:33:36It has continued ever since.
00:33:39During the period we call the Nakba, that great catastrophe, Israel actually suppressed Palestinian literature, writers, and poets.
00:33:48He codes it as a major threat in his mind.
00:33:50Why a threat? When you really look at it, whatever they want to do, like eradicating Palestinian identity, there is a huge amount of resistance against them.
00:33:59Palestinian writers demonstrate this.
00:34:01The Palestinian author actually has a famous quote.
00:34:04He says, "God forbid, if a bomb were to fall here, we could re-green and rebuild that area."
00:34:11But the impact that literature, especially a poem, a line of poetry, a story, or a sentence from a novel, creates in hearts resonates across generations.
00:34:20It's not possible to delete it.
00:34:22So literature has a far greater impact than any powerful weapon.
00:34:26In that sense, both during the Nakba and in the subsequent period, no matter how much the Israelis tried to eliminate Palestinian literature, and not so much...
00:34:34Despite the assassinations of many literary figures, Palestinian literature remains very much alive today.
00:34:40One more thing that caught my attention was that these poets and writers don't just write.
00:34:48They also fight and struggle at night, that is, in camouflage.
00:34:56In other words, these are people who have lived through what they are describing.
00:34:59Now we will see what the sounds of a street tell us.
00:35:05We will then continue with our topic.
00:35:07Today we are in Mardin, dear viewers.
00:35:10Let's see what our citizens have to say about these issues.
00:35:19When we break our fast, our first prayer is for all the people in the newspaper, not just women.
00:35:24All the people there, men, women, and children, are in our hearts and minds every moment; we pray for them.
00:35:31We hope and wish that they too will find value in their own freedom.
00:35:35Oppression is a very difficult thing for us; we are Muslims, and our brothers and sisters are Muslims.
00:35:39This is how we live while facing oppression, but may God help them.
00:35:44The bravest women in the world.
00:35:46Being there and resisting like that, I think, is not something every brave man can do.
00:35:50May God grant all Muslims the opportunity to visit such beautiful places very soon.
00:35:57Now, since this topic involves veterans, it makes people a little upset.
00:36:02Because the women there are suffering a lot.
00:36:07They are the ones who suffer the greatest injustice.
00:36:09Right now, people all over the world need to think a little more about what we can do for them.
00:36:18They need a little more support.
00:36:20We need to keep it on the agenda a little longer, much more prominently.
00:36:22Because the suffering they have endured is immeasurable.
00:36:25I congratulate you wholeheartedly and sincerely.
00:36:27I hope this war ends.
00:36:29This war must be stopped, even if it's just for one day, for women.
00:36:34At least that's how I see it.
00:36:35Some of the women there lost their husbands, some lost their fathers, mothers, and children.
00:36:42I truly believe that such a power of faith exists, one that can serve as an example to the world.
00:36:49And for some reason, while the necessary sensitivity is shown in situations involving women that occur in the West,
00:36:58I believe that women in Gaza are not being given enough attention.
00:37:02I believe that all women around the world should live in peace and happiness.
00:37:09I believe that women, especially those living in Gaza, face very difficult circumstances and deserve to live in the most peaceful way possible.
00:37:25Dear viewers, undoubtedly, the oppressed and the victim have no geographical location or homeland.
00:37:32As a country and as a people, we have always stood by them and will continue to do so.
00:37:39The joy of Ramadan continues in full swing.
00:37:41Mr. Cem, as an actor, you often portray characters who represent justice in films,
00:37:52From what I can see, your preferences are in this direction.
00:37:56Although an actor can practice any kind of art,
00:37:59The character Ali Yar, for example, is like Knife Ali.
00:38:02Something a bit more like that, a combative character in pursuit of justice, the kind we've been longing for.
00:38:10Our favorite character is being made.
00:38:11Yes, are these choices of yours, choices that align with your feelings?
00:38:17Oh, of course.
00:38:18Or would you like to embody such a character in order to uphold justice on Earth?
00:38:22God willing, we will have such a life.
00:38:27These are the much-talked-about people, the characters I played, the characters I portrayed, who were seen with humility by our audience.
00:38:34Here are some characters like Ali Yar, Bıçak Ali, Ahmet Celalettin Pasha, Gökür, and many more.
00:38:40It was very well received by the audience.
00:38:43They loved it very much, they felt a connection with it.
00:38:45I even sent a video to my dear wife, Gülşah, today.
00:38:48They are interviewing the gentleman's children, his family, it's a Ramadan interview.
00:38:53What's the youngest one's name? Ali Yar says.
00:38:56What's the middle one's name? Suleyman Shah says.
00:38:58He named the children. I really liked it.
00:39:00I just shared it now.
00:39:02I performed the roles I played for these characters.
00:39:05These characters winning a place in the hearts of the audience.
00:39:08Of course, that includes my own character in my private life.
00:39:13At least 60%, 70% overlap because I know the same thing about the prescription.
00:39:18These characters become so authentic.
00:39:19Thanks to our producers, among the projects that have come our way...
00:39:24in the projects that come my way, which are the projects I want to play in or will choose to play in that season
00:39:29Most of the characters that come are along these lines.
00:39:32Because the audience wants to see Cem Uçan playing characters like these.
00:39:36Actually, dear professor, I think the subtext is very well written.
00:39:41I would love to play a villain with a very well-structured and well-developed dramatology.
00:39:47Playing a villain is very difficult.
00:39:50In fact, I did one or two of my recent projects together with my dear friend Oktay abi.
00:39:55In Oktay abi's project, I'm too big to fit in this stove.
00:39:57I played an antagonist character named Musa Taziyev.
00:40:04It's very enjoyable to play the villain.
00:40:06But I realized that our audience would like me to play such a character.
00:40:10He definitely doesn't want to see it.
00:40:12Cem, you played very well, it was magnificent, but we don't want to see you like this.
00:40:17They are already publicly stating this.
00:40:19After this, I will probably continue my project of playing these protagonist characters.
00:40:25I need to get this out of my head and heart as soon as possible.
00:40:27Because our audience doesn't want to see that.
00:40:29As you know, things are synonymous with their opposites.
00:40:32So, good and bad—to understand good, you need to know and see bad.
00:40:37To understand evil, one must know good.
00:40:40I think you're successful at both.
00:40:43Not at all.
00:40:44Well, professor, these antagonist characters are really very feminine characters.
00:40:48And yes, playing the game is very difficult; it requires doing a feasibility study and then bringing it to life.
00:40:54It's a lot of fun to play.
00:40:55Difficult but enjoyable.
00:40:57So it's easier to play heroic characters.
00:41:01Ultimately, the hero was written with him in mind.
00:41:03That's what his words say.
00:41:04So even if you can't deliver a 100% perfect acting performance there...
00:41:11Those things you said already support your point very well.
00:41:14It immediately resonates with the audience.
00:41:15But playing a villain well is a bit difficult.
00:41:19That's why she really wanted to experience something like that.
00:41:23But unfortunately, I also can't relate to such characters with our audience.
00:41:27They always want to see us doing well.
00:41:29Thank you, you've been welcome.
00:41:31Thanks.
00:41:32Ms. Pelin, of course, many things have happened in Palestine over the years.
00:41:36So there have been so many turning points over the course of a century.
00:41:41So, October 7th, for example, is a very important historical turning point in this respect.
00:41:46Once again, regarding Palestine, the events in Gaza and what is happening there, can we say the following?
00:41:54So, can we say "before and after" for this period?
00:41:57Of course, of course.
00:41:58Absolutely, we can say that, dear professor.
00:42:00October 7th showed us the great struggle of the Palestinian people, but it also held some important lessons.
00:42:07Definitely.
00:42:08Not only in our country, but all over the world, it's possible to divide life into two periods: before and after October 7th.
00:42:14Although we have suffered significant losses, we have also achieved important gains.
00:42:18The Palestinian people have also made very significant gains in Gaza.
00:42:21One of the most important of these, actually, was this, my esteemed professor.
00:42:24Israel did not only want to be powerful in military terms.
00:42:28Throughout its history, the most important thing Israel and Zionism have wanted to do is to be powerful in managing people's perceptions.
00:42:36Actually, this is a situation that concerns our esteemed Professor Cem as well as the film industry.
00:42:41That's why Israel has placed so much importance on perception.
00:42:44That's why he wants to control the film industry.
00:42:46He wants to manipulate people's minds.
00:42:49But after October 7th, the perception that Israel and Zionism had built in those minds was shattered.
00:42:56So, in that sense, they lost a great deal of power.
00:42:58Even that is a huge achievement.
00:43:00That's why we always say this, dear professor.
00:43:03We have actually entered a period after October 7th where we need to work much harder.
00:43:08Perhaps we are at a point in history where we have never had to work this hard before, my esteemed professor.
00:43:15So what do we mean by working?
00:43:17For example, right now people in Gaza are living in really difficult conditions.
00:43:24From what I understand, we also host civil society organizations on our screens.
00:43:29And they talk about food, drink, and other issues, as well as housing problems and their psychological problems.
00:43:38So, what would you suggest in this regard, in terms of understanding that we are more sensitive to this issue and putting it into practice?
00:43:47Our country is already number one in the world when it comes to humanitarian aid activities, my esteemed professor.
00:43:53Everything that needs to be done, everything that is being done, is being done there.
00:43:56The area we need to work on is this: Israel and Zionism have lost the perception in people's minds, and because they are aware of this, they are currently in Gaza.
00:44:04It is a major struggle to erase the traces of the genocide it committed, and that is its main goal right now.
00:44:08How is he going to do that?
00:44:10For example, my esteemed professor will do it through cinema.
00:44:12It will be done via artificial intelligence.
00:44:14So they are using every means at their disposal, every area of the cultural sphere, to try and cover up what is happening in Gaza right now.
00:44:21That's why it's so important for us to record it, my esteemed professor.
00:44:25By "working," I mean writing, documenting.
00:44:28If we write about what is happening in Gaza today, two or three years from now it will leave the press with a very valuable document of archival value.
00:44:36We will be the ones to leave behind the generations after us, our children.
00:44:39Thank you. If you would consider it from the perspective of an artist's sensibility, Mr. Cem.
00:44:45So, as you just described, it's like an animal cuddling with a plush toy, treating it like its baby, and then sleeping with it.
00:44:58While her loving him attracted such dramatic attention around the world,
00:45:03You look at social media and see this tiny thing, and yes, we are affected too, we can't deny it.
00:45:10But is it the case that our artists are sensitive to certain areas and insensitive to others, depending on which area they choose?
00:45:16So, how do you view this situation?
00:45:18Actually, there's a very clear answer, sir. However, it also depends on the individual's moral character.
00:45:26Therefore, I don't think it would be entirely accurate to speak on behalf of all of them.
00:45:33I am this...
00:45:35This applies to the whole world.
00:45:37So I'm not just asking for our country.
00:45:39Of course, conscience is a very important thing.
00:45:42Now, while they react very dramatically to these events and make such posts, as I just described,
00:45:51As in the scene I just described, this isn't a staged scene either; it's real, and thousands like it happen there.
00:45:59Social media is very important for us there.
00:46:03We need to constantly keep Gaza in the spotlight in the press and in the world media.
00:46:09Look, you know this very well, and I think my professor knows it very well too.
00:46:13In the last 2-3 years, there have been so many non-Muslims around the world who have embraced Islam.
00:46:20Do you know why?
00:46:21Believe me, it's not because I went on television and explained it, or because a religious official or a cleric went on television and explained it.
00:46:27I am not.
00:46:28She lost her family when she was 4, then her family when she was 3; they were torn apart and died right before her eyes.
00:46:35That little girl said to God, "Please, I want to come to you now."
00:46:40People who saw his plea, "Take me too," were honored to embrace Islam.
00:46:44What kind of faith is this?
00:46:45This 4-year-old child has witnessed unimaginable trauma.
00:46:48Incredibly, at such a young age, he saw everything a child shouldn't see.
00:46:53Oh God, please take me to be with you, I want to see you now.
00:46:57I'm talking about a faith that begs you, "I want to come to you."
00:47:00There are so many non-Muslims in the world who have embraced Islam, so many in America and Europe alone.
00:47:08How is it possible that those little children, those women, those children in that situation might not lose their faith, because they saw it with their own eyes?
00:47:19They can't even give it.
00:47:20They show no panic, no fear, they are not running away, they are not going anywhere; they are facing a mob being attacked with rockets, missiles, and bombs.
00:47:30There's a mob calling themselves human beings, and in front of them, an 8 or 9-year-old child is throwing a stone; that's the only thing they can defend.
00:47:37stone.
00:47:38Now, this faith, this inner belief, this awareness of God that fills his chest, people are watching and saying, "Oh my God!"
00:47:47This is something that seems impossible, yet countless people around the world have been honored with Islam.
00:47:56Cinema has a huge impact, sir. We can enter people's homes through television without knocking on their doors, but there are very big-budget films being made around the world.
00:48:10When you watch movies, you will always see elements of that geography and that nation within them.
00:48:17For example, look at movies made in Hollywood; in almost every film you'll see an American flag, or more than one American flag.
00:48:26Definitely one of the characters is either a CIA agent or an FBI agent, but if your main character is a CIA agent, then...
00:48:36The government is creating many different opportunities for that film there; they are present everywhere, on every side.
00:48:42Why do we have Spiderman, Batman, Iron Man? Because they have no history, no heroes!
00:48:53They take someone, like William Wallace from Scotland, or something from another country, and make a film about them in Hollywood. Why? Because 300
00:49:03America, with its centuries-old history, has no heroic deeds to tell, so what are they going to do? What are they going to do? Kill and massacre 20 million Native Americans?
00:49:11They will ask you, "Should we explain it to you?"
00:49:12We went to Vietnam, a country as vast as a hunting ground, and raped people, killed their children, killed themselves, and even our soldiers who returned declared war on us here.
00:49:22Will they explain that they committed suicide?
00:49:24How did they portray cowboys to us in the past? Through Rambo movies, Vietnam movies, and those cowboy films we watched with such enthusiasm back then.
00:49:34They are always very good people, but the girl is crazy, they are cannibals, they kill people, rape, burn houses, scalp, and are evil.
00:49:44They are people.
00:49:44My father used to bring me to the front of the Sultanahmet Mosque when I was a little child, and I was terrified when I saw those slanted eyes because they...
00:49:54For me, those were the villains I'd seen in the Rambo movies in Vietnam.
00:49:59So, Rambo goes to Afghanistan and finds two very valuable Americans among a crowd that seems to be living in the caveman era.
00:50:08That place will save it; it's not the caveman era, it's the Middle East.
00:50:12You yourselves brought the Middle East to this state, you created this situation, so that you could film those stories you're describing, you brought it to this state, into people's homes.
00:50:20You entered through their windows and chimneys with rockets.
00:50:23You showed no regard for their religions, their religious institutions, their states, their family unity, their family values, their kinship, or even humanity.
00:50:32You are the ones who brought these people to this state by not valuing them.
00:50:34Yes, unfortunately, in Palestine, as has always been the case throughout this occupation process, each resistance fighter is actually a separate story.
00:50:48He became a hero.
00:50:49And there was a pen, or pens, that made these heroes into heroes who never die.
00:51:00Can we talk about these and some examples?
00:51:04Yes, yes, we need to keep talking about its literary aspects, esteemed professor.
00:51:08You just mentioned that some Palestinian writers, in the early days, wrote poetry during the day and went on raids at night.
00:51:17The first Kassam units, which were formed in the early 1930s, actually included many writers and poets.
00:51:23Dear Professor.
00:51:24And there are some very impressive stories from that period; I'd like to mention a few names if we have the time.
00:51:30For example, one of them is Abdurrahim Mahmut.
00:51:33My esteemed professor is regarded as one of the greatest masters of Palestinian resistance poetry.
00:51:38Abdurrahim Mahmut had many prisoners, but one of his most important poems is titled "Farewell to Al-Aqsa".
00:51:44The great threat that Al-Aqsa Mosque has faced for the past 100 years, and continues to face today, is the Zionist threat against Al-Aqsa Mosque.
00:51:51For example, the poem "Farewell to Al-Aqsa" was the first poem written to draw attention to the danger.
00:51:56While many Palestinian writers have had numerous prisoners, some have become more prominent and memorable through their involvement in certain social events.
00:52:05I don't really like the word "cult," it's a foreign word, but each of them has very important texts that are synonymous with them, so they are precious.
00:52:13My teacher.
00:52:13Farewell to Al-Aqsa: There are texts written about Al-Aqsa Mosque and about Gaza.
00:52:18For example, many poems have been written about Izz al-Din al-Qasam from that day to this.
00:52:22So what was the main theme and emotional meaning of the poems written about Al-Aqsa?
00:52:30Yes.
00:52:31Can we talk about it a little?
00:52:32If we don't unite, then this is what Abdurrahim Mahmut is saying now, like "Farewell to Al-Aqsa".
00:52:36He warned all Muslims that if we do not unite and fight together against the enemy, Al-Aqsa, the Al-Aqsa Mosque, will be taken from us.
00:52:45A call for unity.
00:52:46At its core, "Farewell to Al-Aqsa" is a poem, my esteemed professor.
00:52:50It is one of the important poems.
00:52:52Of course, we also have writers who write about Gaza, Jerusalem, and Palestine.
00:53:00So, if you were to compare them, how would you evaluate them?
00:53:04There's a really strong emotional outburst.
00:53:09Well, of course, it's really impossible to compare Palestinian writers or anyone else, that's what it seems like to me, professor.
00:53:15We have very valuable professors in Türkiye, but we don't experience what the Palestinians are going through, so how much empathy can we have for them?
00:53:23This particular example really impressed me.
00:53:25I currently have a very valuable teacher in Gaza.
00:53:27Our esteemed teacher Abdullah Tayeh is the former president and vice-president of the Palestinian Writers' Union.
00:53:32Of course, I'm saying, "How are you, sir? Happy Ramadan! Are you well?"
00:53:35"Missiles are flying over his house," he says.
00:53:37You say, "No, thank God, I'm fine," and they ask, "Are you okay? How are you?"
00:53:41Palestinian writers and literary figures are in such a state of mind, and so was my professor; this really affected me.
00:53:49Yes, our country has indeed taken a serious stance against this occupation and oppression in Palestine from the very beginning.
00:53:59And they always expressed this unwavering stance to the whole world at every opportunity, stating that they would never abandon them and that they had never abandoned them, and they did so in practice.
00:54:10He has a stance that shows it.
00:54:13Alhamdulillah, how do you evaluate and describe this aid and interest that goes from here to our country?
00:54:22They love it very much, my dear professor, we all know that already, they love Türkiye very much, they always pray for it, and he said this...
00:54:30Again, a young Palestinian writer friend of mine said, "Everyone in Türkiye wants what's best for us," meaning the Palestinian people and...
00:54:37Even if you utter just one sentence throughout your life, even if you say "Palestine" or "Palestine's freedom" just once, we will not forget it," he said.
00:54:44he said.
00:54:44So they love Türkiye and the Turkish people very much, and they also know that we are actually fighting a common battle for dignity, a common cause...
00:54:51We are in a struggle, and what is dangerous for Palestine is certainly dangerous for us as well; the weapon that is aimed at their children, even if not today, is a threat to us.
00:55:02They know that, God forbid, this could happen to our children in 3 or 5 years.
00:55:07They know we're in the same fight together, and they love it very much, so that's how precious my teacher is.
00:55:13Yes, thank you.
00:55:14I also apologize profusely, sir, because there have been a lot of things happening lately, for example, since October 7th.
00:55:21I saw with my own eyes many injured people being brought from Gaza and treated in hospitals, especially children, in Türkiye; so they know this too.
00:55:31When I say they love each other, I mean they love each other as a historical and religious unity, of course, but things are being done to reinforce this love.
00:55:38I mean, this isn't just a dry, superficial kind of love.
00:55:40I myself have seen many injured children from Gaza being treated in Türkiye, in Ankara or other cities.
00:55:49There is something that exists.
00:55:50I have also witnessed many things done by our governments, so that's what I wanted to say earlier, actually, sir, I mean, a place that has been built
00:55:58The state is not an organization that has to go to everyone's homes and give them a briefing to explain things to them.
00:56:06The state is a completely different structure, and I know very well what they've done, both in Syria and in Gaza, which I think is very...
00:56:18In both these areas, we, as a country, are in a very positive position.
00:56:23As a state, politically, we are in a very clean position; that is, we don't behave like this: there is a place far away, and we don't want that place to be ours.
00:56:32Even if we don't come or go from our current location, we are actually always there, we have been there from the beginning.
00:56:39So what do you say about this feeling of helplessness? Is it like there's some kind of learned helplessness that we're all experiencing?
00:56:48I strongly disagree with that, esteemed professor, especially since I spend a lot of time with young people. I always try to say this:
00:56:54As an older sister, and although it might not be my place, I wanted to offer this advice.
00:56:59For example, there were very important demonstrations in the West after October 7th, which was a huge step forward in Western people's understanding of what is happening in Palestine.
00:57:07He threw it away, but while I praise the demonstrations in the West, I'm ignoring the great effort that Muslims have put into the Palestinian cause for the last 100 years.
00:57:16or the idea that Muslims are very incompetent, incapable of doing anything, and that they should be coded or taught in people's minds.
00:57:25I am strongly opposed to us being condemned to such helplessness.
00:57:29In this sense, God willing, when Palestine is free one day, it will truly be a testament to the sacrifices that Muslims have made for the past 100 years.
00:57:36It will happen thanks to hard work.
00:57:38Even today, for example, there are certainly aspects that can be criticized, but even looking at it, let's say it's the country we dislike the most,
00:57:47In the past, Turkey confronted Israel militarily and lost citizens as martyrs.
00:57:52Türkiye truly paid a price in terms of lives to be able to stand by Palestine.
00:57:55That's why I always tell young people in particular: have confidence in yourselves, hold your heads high. Yes, we've been through tough times, but let's not be too pessimistic.
00:58:02I believe that if we work harder, much better days await us, God willing.
00:58:07But the key here is actually hard work, my dear professor.
00:58:11Because, you know how we always talk about Israel and Zionism, well, what we call Zionism and Israel actually possesses a single power, in quotation marks.
00:58:19It stems from work.
00:58:20That means working with consistent, serious forward-looking plans.
00:58:26If we were to put the work into concrete terms, we also seem to be falling short in understanding how we will work and what we will do.
00:58:37Regarding Palestine, as we have always said, our esteemed professor, our good intentions are undeniable, both historically and in terms of our beliefs, and we are very strong in this respect.
00:58:44We have connections, though.
00:58:45Unfortunately, Palestine was somewhat confined within narrow frameworks in our country.
00:58:49We were reading it somewhat incompletely; if Palestine was in a book, we would skip pages and only read it from a political perspective.
00:58:57We were evaluating it based on military events, that is, incidents.
00:59:01Palestine, as we touched upon earlier, has many stories.
00:59:05When I say "working," I mean writing about them, telling their stories in our country; that's what I tried to do.
00:59:11I'm actually in a position of a storyteller, so that we can better understand the story of Palestine here and tell it as much as possible in our own country, especially.
00:59:19I think it will have a very strong impact on our youth.
00:59:22Because if you don't know the story behind something, you can't support it enough; in other words, if you don't know people's stories, you can't support those people, right sir?
00:59:31When you can't empathize with someone, your support for them becomes limited to a certain point.
00:59:37No one will ever support a region where they can never empathize with its people, not even for a lifetime; after a certain point, it just doesn't work out.
00:59:44He gets bored.
00:59:45In the context of working, describing what happened, writing, and speaking, it's actually about working.
00:59:50Yes, so at the very heart of this work, in this struggle and dedication, are our women.
00:59:56We will also be going to Ankara shortly for the call to prayer, God willing, for iftar, and afterwards we will try to discuss these things and their stories together.
01:00:07Dear viewers, it's time for iftar in Ankara.
01:00:13We will soon hear the call to prayer (adhan) and break our fasts.
01:00:19May Allah accept our fasts.
01:00:24Yes, we also say amen to this beautiful prayer.
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01:00:32Dear viewers, and we have very special guests in our studio.
01:00:36I would like to ask Mr. Cem Uçan the following question.
01:00:40Of course, sir.
01:00:40Of course you act in historical films.
01:00:43Of course, it's also necessary to internalize the spiritual atmosphere there to some extent.
01:00:47It's part of our role.
01:00:49Today, of course, from a spiritual perspective, is there any opportunity for comparison between our experiences and the spiritual atmosphere of that period?
01:01:01How do you evaluate it?
01:01:04Of course, as we move from the time of our ancestors to the present day, as those historical periods progress and we approach the present, many things in human life undergo erosion.
01:01:13Technology is indeed very valuable, but it has eroded many aspects of human life.
01:01:19Now you see yourself inside a house when you sit down.
01:01:21Three separate phones, mother, father, child, all in different corners.
01:01:25You know this very well, professor, you know this very well too.
01:01:29In the past, our children used to have conversations inside the house.
01:01:32There was something called asking how someone was doing.
01:01:34There was a concept called "neighbor's door," I've known it since my childhood.
01:01:37They would cut a gate in the fence between our neighbor's garden and ours so that we wouldn't have to go around to the neighbor's door; we could just pass through the fence directly.
01:01:45We had a neighbor from Rize, Sema abla, who lived on the floor below us.
01:01:48You are my right.
01:01:50Those bread rolls with tomato paste that he used to serve, those water he gave out in copper cups.
01:01:53It was probably the most delicious water in the world.
01:01:56It was the most delicious bread and tomato paste.
01:01:59What if we went to the best restaurants in the world right now and ate there?
01:02:02Believe me, the taste of that bread with tomato paste and that water is unlike anything you've ever tasted before.
01:02:05It's nowhere to be found.
01:02:07The characters I've played have received a very serious and positive response from the audience.
01:02:16Of course, I can't really compare that period and the atmosphere you were in, especially in the period pieces I create, with today's standards.
01:02:25Did you have the opportunity to travel back in time, to explore those plateaus, as if you were living in that world?
01:02:32For example, the studio that TRT built in Çekmeköy isn't really a studio.
01:02:36They recreated that history.
01:02:40Do you feel like you've gone back in time to such a place?
01:02:42Of course, of course, now you're going to spend 12-13 hours playing a character you're not, in a costume you wouldn't wear or a garment you wouldn't use in everyday life?
01:02:52You are trying to bring to life a man you are not, riding on a horse you've never ridden in your life, and using dialogues that are very different from your speaking style, articulation, and diction.
01:03:0412 hours.
01:03:04I'd like to tell you a funny story about this, sir.
01:03:35Here you go.
01:03:36My mother is watching, may her ears be ringing.
01:03:39I got in my car; we're filming in Izmit.
01:03:42My mother called me as soon as I left the plateau.
01:03:44I answered the phone.
01:03:45Yes, Mom.
01:03:46"Cem," the woman said to me on the phone.
01:03:49Yes, Mom.
01:03:50Cem, is that you, son?
01:03:51Mom, can you please talk to me?
01:03:53Ahmet Celalettin is leaving.
01:03:55The woman said, "Cem, how are you talking like that, Mommy?"
01:03:59I've pretty much started to get the character together in my mind.
01:04:01Wait a minute, because you've been speaking in that tone for 12-13 hours.
01:04:07You have a proportion that you don't use in your daily life.
01:04:11You look like a man you're not.
01:04:13You walk like a man you're not.
01:04:16These are, of course, remnants and deformations that occur in a professional context.
01:04:23Occupational deformation.
01:04:25But that doesn't mean that either.
01:04:27It's something that's used quite often in our field.
01:04:31This is something I absolutely do not approve of either.
01:04:32In fact, quite the opposite; I find it very funny that people make such statements.
01:04:36I just can't get out of character.
01:04:38I've been going around as Ahmet Celalettin for three days.
01:04:40That's not true.
01:04:41That's not true.
01:04:41That was for a very short period of time for me.
01:04:43Because I had just come off the set, I was a little late in getting my voice into tone.
01:04:47Thanks.
01:04:47Or else, the other side of the story is quite funny to me.
01:04:49Beautiful memories.
01:04:51Ms. Pelin, of course, we can see this reflected in your work, especially when we consider your focus on women and their struggles.
01:05:03Perhaps by truly expressing this resistance through their experiences, you find a more realistic and accurate way to tell the story.
01:05:13You go there, you see the mothers, the young girls, or even if you don't go, you know their facial expressions.
01:05:26What can you say about Gaza when you read these things through this lens?
01:05:31In fact, about three weeks ago in Samsun, I had a joint meeting with a very dear Gazan colleague, a female professor, and our teacher.
01:05:40We participated in the program.
01:05:41We actually talked at length about Gaza with them as well.
01:05:44Now, I would like to give an example from history, my esteemed professor.
01:05:47If you were to describe a woman from Gaza.
01:05:49Then there's Fevzi El Kavukçu, one of the most important commanders and officers of the Ottoman era.
01:05:55He later took part in the Palestinian Uprising.
01:05:58I was reading Fevzi El Kavukçu's memoir.
01:06:00He says the following.
01:06:01Yes, he says, he later participated in many conflicts around Gaza.
01:06:05"I want to talk about the Palestinian woman," he says.
01:06:08They always talk about military matters like that.
01:06:10The Palestinian woman said this:
01:06:12"We," he says, "are at the height of the conflict, or at the moment of greatest danger."
01:06:17"A hand would reach out to us," he says.
01:06:18This hand would either offer us some water, he says.
01:06:21Or he would hand over some provisions.
01:06:22Or, she would comfort us with her prayers, he says.
01:06:25"Whatever success we have achieved, it is in Palestine," he says.
01:06:28Against Zionism and British forces.
01:06:29This is thanks to the immense moral strength we receive from Palestinian women at every moment, she says.
01:06:34Actually, Fevzi El Kavukçu, one of the important Ottoman commanders of that period, also wrote this 100 years ago.
01:06:39I mentioned that I went to Samsun with Palestinian women.
01:06:42Or when we meet with Palestinian women here, or Palestinians in general.
01:06:46So, this is what we're actually seeing, my dear professor.
01:06:48Women who, even in the face of extremely high costs, never even consider giving up for a moment.
01:06:54This affected me greatly, for example.
01:06:56Let's never give up.
01:06:57Let's start a new life.
01:06:59The idea of leaving our homeland and moving somewhere else is absolutely not in anyone's mind.
01:07:04We see women who are determined to fight to the very end.
01:07:08And of course, they actually do many things while doing that.
01:07:12Also, as an example for women around the world.
01:07:14Like what?
01:07:14For example, Palestinian women organize charity bazaars very frequently.
01:07:19They've done this before, they've done it now.
01:07:21For example, they run artificial flower workshops.
01:07:24They made flowers out of fabric that look like real flowers.
01:07:28Fairs.
01:07:28In fact, these acts of solidarity, such as knitting, are done in Türkiye today, as well as in many parts of the Islamic world.
01:07:36It was first actually seen in the Palestinian geography, within the Palestinian women's movement, sir.
01:07:40Even today, they knit sweaters using old knitting patterns and wool, or by unraveling old sweaters and knitting them again.
01:07:46They've been knitting scarves ever since.
01:07:47They organize fairs.
01:07:49They visit the wounded very frequently.
01:07:51They visit families in need.
01:07:54The Palestinian women's movement is characterized by immense solidarity and great organization.
01:07:58I mean, if it weren't like that, sometimes I think that amidst such a huge struggle and such heavy costs, nobody would be like that anyway.
01:08:06There's nothing to do just by standing there alone, thinking about it by yourself.
01:08:11I think Palestinian women actually draw strength from each other.
01:08:14So, back then, professors around the world stood there for a very long time.
01:08:18Did you know that the only thing in the world that can't be imitated is courage?
01:08:23May God grant the courage of a Palestinian woman to the entire Islamic world.
01:08:28Yes, amen.
01:08:29So that each of us can be as brave as them.
01:08:34May God grant us the courage to be like a woman who defends her child, her family, her flag, her land, and her faith.
01:08:41May God grant us all the courage to be as brave as that Palestinian woman.
01:08:44Hopefully.
01:08:45Professor, if we have time, I'd like to give a small example.
01:08:48Through courage and dignity.
01:08:51Now, after the first Palestinian women's and men's organizations emerged, there was a rebellion over the Buraq Wall in Jerusalem in 1929, Professor Gümetli.
01:08:58Three Palestinian youths are executed.
01:09:00The Palestinian resistance is a crucial turning point in history.
01:09:03At that time, Palestine was suddenly under British mandate.
01:09:06And Palestinian women are gathering.
01:09:08They are forming a convoy of 300 vehicles in Jerusalem.
01:09:10And this is a first in Palestinian history, as well as a first in the history of British colonialism.
01:09:15Such a large women's protest.
01:09:17After wandering around the city streets for a while, they go to the door of the British governor at the time, sir.
01:09:23They're knocking on the door.
01:09:23Hasa's wife was also there at the time.
01:09:27That day, the woman didn't even bother to greet the Palestinian women.
01:09:30The British governor says the same thing.
01:09:32"Please, ladies," he says.
01:09:34"Tell me all your protests to my face, okay?" he says.
01:09:37The women are saying this.
01:09:39In short, they are saying, "Because you have done injustice to our wives, sons, and brothers, so leave our homeland."
01:09:45Okay, he says you can tell me anything.
01:09:47He says, "Let's talk."
01:09:48"Let's have a cup of coffee first," he says to the Palestinian women.
01:09:51Palestinian women are banging their fists on the table.
01:09:53We say we wouldn't have coffee with people who invaded our homeland.
01:09:57"We didn't come here to sit and have coffee and chat," the members of the Palestinian Women's Movement were saying in a very impactful speech, professor.
01:10:05Yeah.
01:10:05Actually, this alone could be made into a movie, professor.
01:10:09Each story in this film has its own unique meaning.
01:10:12Thanks.
01:10:13And with that, we've come to the end of this segment of our program.
01:10:17Thank you very much.
01:10:18Thank you.
01:10:18Because of the information you provided.
01:10:20And from here, we send our message to the mothers, women, and children in Gaza who are waiting for us at their iftar tables right now.
01:10:30We are praying for them too.
01:10:32We send our greetings, our sincerest support, and our prayers.
01:10:36With heartfelt emotions, we embrace them wholeheartedly.
01:10:41If you wish, we can also go to the Istanbul iftar with a short prayer.
01:10:44Long live!
01:10:44Amine.
01:10:45Hallelujah.
01:10:46Hallelujah.
01:10:48Praise be to Allah, Lord of the worlds.
01:10:49Vessalatu vesselamu ala rasulina muhammedin ve ala alihi ve ashabihi ecmain.
01:10:54O Lord, we share the pain and all the beautiful feelings of our brothers and sisters on earth who, like us, raise their hands in prayer to You at their iftar tables.
01:11:05Get them out of their difficult situation as soon as possible.
01:11:09We are also praying for our brothers and sisters in our country, with all our hands raised in prayer.
01:11:13May You accept their worship and prayers in the best way possible, make us a worthy dweller of You, and a worthy community of Your Beloved Prophet, with our faith.
01:11:24Grant us the strength to pass this test with flying colors when we are tested.
01:11:28Amine.
01:11:29Praise be to Allah, Lord of the worlds.
01:11:31Dear viewers, it's time for iftar in Istanbul.
01:11:34May God accept your fasting, sir.
01:13:50Dear viewers, this evening's episode of our Ramadan Joy program on TRT1 has come to an end.
01:13:59And we had very important guests in our studio today.
01:14:04We talked to them about Palestine.
01:14:06Those sufferings, those dramas, Palestine, Gaza, and the struggle there, which is in our hearts and will always hold the highest place in our hearts,
01:14:20Through this resistance movement, we have tried to introduce you to the heroes of this process throughout history, here in this studio.
01:14:27And so we've come to the end of our program.
01:14:29Tomorrow, God willing, we will be together again at the same time for another Ramadan Joy program, and we will have very important guests again.
01:14:39Prof. Dr. Hatice Kelpetin Arpaguş and Prof. Dr. Ubidullah Sezikli will be guests on TRT1's Ramazan Sevinci program tomorrow.
01:14:49Until we meet again at the same time, may God protect you.
01:14:53Goodbye, dear viewers.
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