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Ramazan Sevinci 7. Bölüm | Ahmet Özhan & Burhan Saban (25 Şubat 2026)
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00:04In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
00:06In the name of Allah
00:12In the vast desert, there was a lone shepherd with his flock.
00:19The shepherd lived his life alone in this desert, grazing his flocks.
00:27She was illiterate and didn't know any fancy words, but she had immense love in her heart.
00:37And as he lived on with this love, in the desolate deserts where no sound was heard except the sound of the wind, he would open his hands to his Lord, whom he loved so much.
00:49He called out like this.
00:50"Oh Lord, if only I knew where you were, I would come to you, comb your hair, serve you, mend your shoes, and milk your cows," she was saying.
01:04And as he was saying these words, Moses (peace be upon him) was passing by, and when he heard the shepherd's words, he became angry.
01:13He immediately went over to the shepherd and said, "Do you realize what you're saying?"
01:18"Is he a person like you? How can such things be said about God? You're talking about hair and shoes," he said.
01:26The shepherd was very embarrassed, saddened, and hurt, and he said, "I only love her."
01:34After Moses (peace be upon him) became angry with him, he left the place.
01:37During the night, a call from the Lord was heard.
01:41"O Moses," he said, "why did you hurt and offend my servant, the shepherd?"
01:48"We don't look at words, we look at the heart," he said.
01:52Did you come to unite or to divide?
01:55Moses (peace be upon him) was deeply shaken by this divine call and could barely wait for the morning.
02:02He ran into the desert to search for the shepherd.
02:05The shepherd sat at the foot of a rock, still shedding tears of sorrow.
02:10And He said to the shepherd, "Good news, O shepherd! God has accepted the love and affection in your heart."
02:17"I made a mistake, please forgive me," he said.
02:21The shepherd rejoiced, thinking, "Have I not offended my Lord?"
02:26And when he said that his prayer had been answered, he said, "I now love my Lord in another language."
02:34I love you with another heart.
02:36"I got burned in my mouth," he said.
02:38Yes, dear viewers, as we saw in the story of the shepherd and Moses (peace be upon him), our Lord looks into our hearts.
02:46He casts a glance into our hearts.
02:48Because the main capital of servitude is sincerity, genuineness.
02:53We have very important guests at our iftar program this evening, our Ramadan joy program.
03:01Together with them, we will discuss the topics of sincerity, devotion to God, and genuineness.
03:08Our esteemed Ahmet Özhan, a man of great heart, and my friend, the Bosnian artist Burhan Saban, will be with us.
03:16Please don't leave us, sir.
03:23A'udhu Billahi Minash Shaitanir Rajeem
03:40In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
03:49Ya ayyuhal lezine aminu la ta'kuluğu amvâle sand baynakum baynakum bilbahtil.
04:14La ta'kuluğu amvâle sand baynakum bilbahtil illa an ta'kuluğu amvâle sand baynakum bilbahtil.
04:45Ila أن تكون تجارة عن تراض منكم
05:00ولا تقتلوا أنفسكم
05:10إن الله كان بكم رحيما
05:26وَمَنْ يَفْعَلْ ذَلِكَ عُدْوَانًا وَظُلْمًا فَسَوْفَ نُصْلِيهِ نَارًا
05:44وَكَانَ ذَلِكَ عَلَى اللَّهِ يَسِيرًا
05:57إِن تَجْتَنِبُوا كَبَائِرَ مَا تُنْهَوْنَ عَنْهُ
06:08وَنُكَفِّرْ عَنْكُمْ سَيِّئَاتِكُمْ
06:18وَنُدْخِلْكُمْ مُدْخَلًا كَرِيمًا
06:32تَتَذَنَّوْمَا فَضُّلَ اللَّهُ بِهِ بَعْوَكُمْ عَلَى بَعْوُ
06:51للرجال نصيب من مكتسب
07:04وللنساء نصيب من مكتسب
07:14وَاسْأَلُوا اللَّهَ مِنْ فَوْلِهِ
07:25God bless you, God bless you
07:45وَلِكُلِّ جَعَلْنَا مَوَالِيَ مِمَّا تَرَكَ الْوَالِدَانِ وَالْأَقْرَبُونَ
08:10I'm sorry, I'm sorry
08:24God bless you, God bless you
08:36صَدَقَ اللَّهُ الْعَظِيمُ
08:46I became a slave, I became a slave, I became a slave.
08:51I became an unworthy servant at my Lord's door.
08:56Every slave rejoices when he is freed.
08:59I, on the other hand, am happy to be his servant.
09:05Sir, the greatest honor and privilege at the door of our Lord is to be His servant.
09:11We can only find ourselves by flowing like a silent river toward that great sea.
09:20And tonight we want to go from the shell to the core.
09:24We want to reach that pearl.
09:28In this era where shop windows are prominent and everyone is eager to promote themselves,
09:34We want to be able to say, "It's enough if they know; it's sufficient for me when they know."
09:42We value this noble stance.
09:45Tonight on our iftar program, in the joy of Ramadan, I will be on TRT1 with very important guests.
09:53We will try to explain and convey to you sincerity, sincerity in serving God, and the dimension of sincerity in worship.
10:03And for years, with his voice, his melodious voice, he has inscribed divine love into our hearts,
10:11Our esteemed gentleman and music connoisseur, Mr. Ahmet Özhan, is in our studio.
10:16And once again, from the land of the descendants of Fatih, my friend Burhan Saban, whose soulful voice touches our hearts.
10:25I say to them, "Welcome, you have honored us with your presence."
10:29Master, you are most welcome, it's a great honor to have you here.
10:31How are you, Ramazan? How are things going?
10:34Thank God.
10:35That's great. For us, Ramadan is a celebration from the very beginning.
10:40With its entire way of life, its way of perceiving, its way of acting.
10:44That's why we're so happy. Alhamdulillah.
10:46Hallelujah.
10:48Brother Burhan, that's how I address you, but welcome, it's a pleasure to have you here.
10:52How is Ramadan going?
10:54Hallelujah.
10:56I agree with Professor Ahmet as well.
10:58Of course, Ramadan is a celebration for the heart.
11:01Hallelujah.
11:02This is a great opportunity for all of us.
11:04Hallelujah.
11:05I'm very lucky too.
11:06We are together with our esteemed guests and visitors, like yourselves, at our Ramadan Joy program.
11:12I hope we can crown this beauty with devotion and sincerity, my esteemed master.
11:19Hopefully.
11:19Of course, it's important to first understand the concept of servitude correctly.
11:22Because our relationship with God, our relationship with people, and even our relationship with all of creation,
11:29This awareness of servitude, that is, the answer to the question of what servitude is, will probably suffice.
11:35Let's start from here, if you'd like.
11:37Thanks. Okay.
11:39Sir, God created the universes so that His wisdom, power, knowledge, and aesthetics might be revealed, known, and loved.
11:58He created all the universes as an exhibition.
12:02And this exhibition has created Adam as both an observer and a counter.
12:08Yes.
12:08Prophet Adam, but by Adam we mean our Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him).
12:17Because the essence of everything, the beginning of everything, the truth of everything is none other than our Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him.
12:26both as Muhammad Mustafa and as a human being,
12:30Moreover, in terms of the existence of the Muhammadan Light, the Muhammadan Truth, inherent in existence itself.
12:37True servitude to God means feeling this, internalizing it, and acting accordingly.
12:47And it is the highest rank one can attain, an honor.
12:53Your well-known favor from our Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him,
12:57His role as God's servant and messenger was mentioned before his prophethood.
13:04It was mentioned before his prophethood.
13:07So, the highest of all ranks, sir, is the rank of servitude, the rank of being a servant.
13:12It consists of establishing relationships with all creatures by ensuring the rights of all creatures.
13:24At the beginning of our program, there was a quote from Mevlana, who described servitude to God as the greatest freedom.
13:32Amen and I believe.
13:33So, in our search, in our quest for servitude, aren't we actually aware that true freedom lies here?
13:40No, we aren't.
13:42Because our ego gets in the way.
13:46We have an ego that commands us to do evil.
13:49It makes it easy for us to experience all the pleasures and desires of the human dimension,
13:57It also presents itself at arm's length, sir, it makes things look delicious, I call it a schizophrenic self.
14:07Sir, it's truly delicious.
14:08Because, as you know, your current state means the essence, the center.
14:15You may not remember this from the past.
14:20You know those signs in the cities? Those signs used to say "Nefs-i Şehir" (The City's Soul).
14:25Gee.
14:25The city center, that is, he goes to the city center, the very heart of the city.
14:30Let me tell you, for him, the ego is actually our reality,
14:35It is the platform of the divine attributes of God.
14:40And the servant, in the name of Allah, whatever is destined for him, whatever Allah wills,
14:46He is tasked with managing it and making it his servant.
14:51He was given this duty as the Caliph of God.
14:54This is where the ego intervenes, and our true ego, the ego that is our reality,
15:01In other words, as our Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, "He who knows himself knows his Lord."
15:08If we start from the point of view of the treasure, that is, when we don't listen to it,
15:13Because He is speaking to us as our Lord.
15:16He addresses us as our mentor.
15:19Those who raised us, enlightened us, and guided us on the right path,
15:23It is our ego that prevents us from reaching the straight path.
15:27Instead of that, we accept that schizophrenic ego as existing even though it doesn't.
15:35We use it as a hedonistic structure that exhausts servitude by accepting the ego.
15:44However, as you said, servitude, that is, the value that God Almighty said He would create as His vicegerent, is servitude.
15:52This is the highest level of disclosure.
15:57Of course, there are certain actions we perform in the name of worship.
16:01So, at the forefront of this are our religious practices.
16:05How can we express our devotion to God without worship?
16:10Of course, that's not possible.
16:12In addition to this, we should also uphold God's rights in our normal lives,
16:19We establish our relationships, earn our living, and engage in all kinds of social activities by observing his commands.
16:26They also have quality control.
16:30So yes, we do these things, but what is their consequence in the eyes of God?
16:37This is the sincerity we're talking about, master.
16:39In other words, if we evaluate it from the perspective of sincerity.
16:43Of course, sincerity.
16:44If something is not done with sincerity,
16:47Sincerity means eliminating doubt.
16:52It means the suspicion has been eliminated.
16:54So what does "nefs-i mutmain" mean?
16:57It means a satisfied soul.
16:59In the holy verse of God Almighty,
17:01Oh, satisfied soul,
17:03Look, he says, at the ego, he says, at the truth.
17:06He doesn't say "my servant," he doesn't say "person."
17:09It appeals to the ego.
17:10It appeals to the ego.
17:11Because that's the reality.
17:14And a relative aspect that emerges from the very essence of God Almighty,
17:20a relative self.
17:22Yes.
17:23A scientific image.
17:24It is merely a manifestation of the knowledge inherent in God's attribute of all-knowing.
17:29The entire realm of existence.
17:30In both the singular and the universal.
17:32Like this.
17:33Sir.
17:34And this is the wisdom and purpose of God's creation.
17:43as this servant, a perfectly clean mirror,
17:48Created as a mirror reflecting nature,
17:53The purpose is to ensure that his own reflection is revealed in that mirror.
17:57Therefore, all existence is nothing but a mirror.
18:01It consists of a reflector.
18:03It consists of nothing more than a reflector.
18:03It is merely an appearance.
18:05It is the apparent right.
18:07Yes.
18:07Ultimately, when we realize this,
18:12then, through inner cleansing and purification, which is called the process of leech therapy,
18:16you know, the adjustment is made from the tongue, oh my God, it's good and right,
18:19As we say or read, "The sultan does not enter the palace until the house is well-maintained..."
18:23So, is it about sincerely cultivating a prosperous home?
18:26It is about making it prosperous, sir.
18:28It is about experiencing that spiritual journey.
18:30This is about freeing ourselves from human illusions and returning to our true nature.
18:35This has been explained through sincerity.
18:40For example, the surah that has become famous as our Surah Ikhlas,
18:44It has many other names as well.
18:47And it's interesting.
18:48It does not contain the word "sincerity".
18:50Yes.
18:50The word "Ihlas" is not mentioned.
18:52But its name is sincerity.
18:53Because when we fully understand the issues there,
18:58Sincerity and devotion are revealed, genuineness is revealed.
19:00Yes.
19:01That is, the oneness and self-sufficiency of God Almighty,
19:05sir, that it does not exist from nothing,
19:07and that it created nothing other than itself,
19:11And as he expressed it, "kufuwan ahad," meaning something incomparable to anything else.
19:15That he was not equal to her.
19:16Only when we perceive all of this,
19:19We become a sincere, pristine mirror.
19:23Then, whatever God wills, He reflects it through us.
19:27Thanks.
19:28Master, I would like to return to my brother Burhan.
19:33Welcome back.
19:34Nice to see you again.
19:35Of course, you are a very well-known and beloved artist in the Balkans.
19:40You are also very well-liked in our country, of course.
19:43You know, we say this in terms of belonging.
19:47And you are a truly important artist who reflects Burhan's sadness and emotions in art and music.
19:56I would like to take the opportunity to congratulate them on their efforts and endeavors there.
20:04And we want to get a feel for the atmosphere there, to breathe it in.
20:09I wonder what Ramadan is like there.
20:11How does it manifest in you?
20:14First of all, thank you very much for inviting me.
20:19Especially with the Master here, who am I to speak?
20:23God forbid, God forbid.
20:25But you asked a question, Master, I have to answer.
20:28How are things where we are? How are things where we are?
20:31Our area.
20:31Yes.
20:32Our area.
20:33The Balkans are just as they used to be, as you know them.
20:36First, greetings to you all.
20:39Wa alaikum salam. May Allah reward you.
20:40When I told some friends tonight that Ahmet, my esteemed teacher Ahmet, would be here with me, they sent many greetings.
20:47Wa alaikum salam, may Allah be pleased with you.
20:49You are very well-liked there.
20:50You are also loved, professor.
20:52We love it too.
20:53We send our greetings to the Balkans as well.
20:54Of course, my teacher, with his words, his conversations, his music, his voice—may God be pleased with him—is a person who has accomplished great things.
21:05Our professor is acting like a moderator for us, but actually we should also be giving him a chance to speak.
21:14I request.
21:15Now, professor, could you tell us about your latest work?
21:18Work together.
21:19And then there's his academic career as well.
21:21Master, I have grown up idealizing you since childhood.
21:26Therefore, you are our elder.
21:27Thank you, may God bless you.
21:29May God bless you.
21:30I was about to come there too, sir.
21:33I said that based on...
21:35We had a recent study.
21:37Humbly speaking.
21:37Masallah.
21:38I performed a duet with one of my teachers.
21:40Nadi Ali.
21:42Nadi Ali'yen.
21:43Yes, Nadi Ali'yen's prayer.
21:45Yes, we recited the Nadi Ali'yen prayer together.
21:47We made Stolats too.
21:48The music video was filmed in Bosnia.
21:50You had read it too.
21:52Thanks.
21:52We heard about it.
21:53Especially after hearing that, I'd like to connect it to this point, sir.
21:59I first met my master when I was 13 or 14 years old.
22:06My mentor received his first cassette tape when he was 12 years old.
22:10To Yugoslavia at that time.
22:11There were also some restrictions in place in former Yugoslavia at that time.
22:15Yes.
22:15That's true.
22:16I would especially like to mention my mentor, Sami Savni Özer, here.
22:22I grew up with their cassette tapes.
22:23So, it was thanks to you that I discovered this love, this affection.
22:28Oh, how beautiful, oh how beautiful.
22:29May God be pleased with you.
22:30May God bless you.
22:31Being here is truly a pleasure for me.
22:34Thank.
22:35Thanks.
22:36Honor.
22:37The Balkans exist thanks to you.
22:42Especially love, affection, and hymns.
22:46Yes.
22:46Thanks to this, he did not sever this connection with the capital or the Ottoman legacy.
22:52Isn't music a very important art form during Ramadan?
22:56During Ramadan, many religious hymns are sung, especially.
22:59Even outside of Ramadan, as you know, sir, you have come here a few times.
23:03You've arrived too, professor.
23:04You are very well-liked.
23:07May God bless you.
23:08And I wanted to emphasize that.
23:10Thanks to you, and especially thanks to my teacher Ahmet Hoca, the continuation of these hymns came from this master.
23:19We have translated many works.
23:21I just had the chance to chat with my professor for a bit.
23:26I told my teacher, "Teacher, this is one of my first hymns."
23:31Perhaps it was eighty-four.
23:35Yes.
23:36Oh, my crazy, beloved one.
23:38It fell from one legal matter to another again.
23:40Yes.
23:41No one has ever sung that song as beautifully as you have.
23:47That was a great start.
23:50It was like a locomotive for me.
23:52Thanks.
23:53Yes.
23:53And thanks to you, may God be pleased with you.
23:56If we have reached this point in Bosnia, if we are holding concerts, if Ramadan is passing in such peace and tranquility, and if this...
24:10If these melodies continue to radiate this positive energy, it's thanks to you.
24:16Istanbul is very big, or rather, Türkiye is very big, thank God.
24:22Our bridges of friendship continue to be built.
24:24Yes.
24:25So, in the Balkan geography, especially in Bosnia, in the lands of our ancestors, and these works, whether they are the works of my brother Burhan or other artists there...
24:37with his studies.
24:37Music truly plays a role as a reminder in our connection with God.
24:45The divine, the gentle, the delicate mediator, is acting as an intermediary, my master.
24:50Now, let's relate this charm to sincerity, of course, once again.
24:57To give sincerity to the acts of worship we perform, that is, to serve our Lord sincerely with heartfelt supplication and prayer.
25:10We also need manners to be able to express ourselves.
25:14We need to give our servitude a certain form.
25:18So, we need to draw up a roadmap, right, master?
25:21What kind of roadmap should we draw up?
25:25My dear master, the roadmap is the Quran.
25:31Yes.
25:32It is the glorious Quran.
25:33Hallelujah.
25:34That is the constitution.
25:37That's essentially the prospectus for life.
25:40How should we live, and what kind of relationship should we have with our possessions?
25:46The Quran alone is a text.
25:49Yes.
25:49This is a text. Solving this text may not be easy for everyone.
25:54For him, the greatest prototype is our Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).
25:59We should have a direction of prayer, like the one we follow, following our Prophet.
26:08Hopefully, God will transform that imitation into a true understanding.
26:14Because the greatest guide and adapter in putting the Quran into practice is our Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).
26:27They asked the same question as our mother Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her) said.
26:31So, tell us about our Prophet, O mother of the believers.
26:34"My son," he said, "don't you read the Quran?"
26:37We're reading, Mommy.
26:38It was alive.
26:39So it's a well-known issue.
26:42In other words, it was a living Quran.
26:43For him, the Quran and Sunnah are the only roadmap for believers.
26:51Of course, this happened after our Prophet's passing, after he chose the realm of divine beauty.
26:58Belivullah Hazıratı, tracing his footsteps and name, analyzed the circumstances and acted with the intention of providing whatever was needed, in terms of time and resources.
27:17There are interpretations that can be made, provided they do not deviate even slightly from the Quran and Sunnah.
27:23There are ways to make it easier.
27:25Joining these paths, that is, enrolling in school, ultimately means becoming more familiar with the Holy Quran and the Sunnah of the Prophet.
27:34It will be helpful for us in terms of adaptation.
27:38Thanks.
27:39That would be helpful.
27:40Master, we are now also working on bringing the sounds of the street into our studio every evening.
27:49If you'd like, we can go to Adana.
27:50Let's also listen to what our citizens in Adana have to say about sincerity.
27:56Then we will continue our conversation from where we left off, sir.
28:06Sincerity is loving people.
28:08It means being tolerant towards people.
28:10It's against all of humanity, not just one Buddhist or even one Christian.
28:16When you show love to all of humanity, they will see Islam in your personality.
28:24They see the beauty of Islam.
28:25The people opposite.
28:26The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) said:
28:29He who sleeps well while his neighbor is hungry is not one of us, they say.
28:32To be able to feel this in your conscience.
28:35In other words, it means feeling it in your mind and conscience, and being able to help the people around you.
28:40This is sincerity.
28:41When we talk about sincerity, the first things that come to mind are compassion, respect, and love.
28:45Respect for elders, love for younger ones.
28:48When we talk about sincerity, we mean a genuine smile, respect, and love.
28:54For me, sincerity means being genuine, not acting out of fear that others will see or know.
29:01I feel like loving and being loved in the way that comes from within.
29:06Being sincere means being truthful.
29:09True, friendship.
29:10Sincerity is a good thing if you are honest.
29:13But only if there is honesty.
29:14For me, sincerity means living without lies or deception.
29:18It means being sincere without deceiving, cheating, lying, or manipulating people's emotions.
29:25Sincerity is a great blessing for me.
29:28It would be better for me if society were united like this.
29:31The family community would be very good.
29:34That would be great.
29:35The bile, those old biles are gone now, it's all me.
29:38The old bile was very good.
29:40At least 20 people would gather at a single gathering.
29:44He says it would be very nice, and eating it also gave him even more pleasure.
29:49There's no such thing now.
29:56Sir, we also heard the voice of the street regarding sincerity.
30:00Everyone is saying beautiful things from their own perspective, really.
30:05Yes, yes.
30:06He says it's about honesty.
30:07Yes.
30:08Sir, it means behaving well.
30:10We have an expression in our culture: "to be the same inside and out."
30:13To be in harmony.
30:15Yes.
30:17So, nowadays they talk about empathy, right?
30:21Yes.
30:21In our culture, being in harmony means being in solidarity.
30:24This is what I wanted to say, Mustafa.
30:28Sincerity.
30:29We always tend to view sincerity as something that is shown to the other person.
30:35In essence, sincerity is a form of self-improvement.
30:41Yes.
30:41Because to know ourselves, to return to our true nature, and to perform the worship that He demands, we must be sincere with ourselves.
30:56Natural.
30:58Otherwise, it would be hypocrisy.
31:00Yes.
31:01When one's inner self differs from one's outer self, it becomes hypocrisy.
31:05The whole point is for a person to be at peace with themselves, to be sincere with themselves,
31:12His evaluation of life through Ihsan.
31:17In other words, acting with the awareness that God sees him at every moment.
31:23Yes.
31:23In other words, being free to the point of not needing a second agenda.
31:28Only then does sincerity migrate into devotion.
31:33Since sincerity has become something highly acceptable in the sight of God, it also transforms a person.
31:42As you know, in the Holy Quran, the verse says "a thousand souls have been sacrificed".
31:47Return to your Lord, and enter My Paradise with My chosen servants, for your Lord is pleased with you.
31:54This is an opportunity that was granted, not gained, in return for this sincerity.
32:01So even if you can fool everyone else, you can't fool God, right?
32:07Isn't it?
32:08You can't even fool yourself.
32:10Even yourself.
32:10It means being honest with yourself.
32:13Yes.
32:14That's the whole point.
32:15I know it as a hadith (prophetic saying).
32:19Our Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him,
32:20He occasionally asks questions to the companions of the Prophet.
32:24To provide information, to inform them.
32:28And one day he asks them, "Who is the bankrupt?"
32:31In other words, someone who has gone bankrupt.
32:33They also offer their own explanations, and their answers are generally related to commercial matters.
32:39When our Prophet replied to them, "No, no," Allah and His Messenger know best.
32:45Our Prophet says that in this bankrupt world, people think they are doing well.
32:49But who are the ones whose deeds will be rendered futile in the Hereafter?
32:53This must be the biggest bankruptcy ever.
32:56Yes.
32:57I have met many great people.
32:59In their prayers,
33:00"Oh Lord, do not let those who kissed our hands in this world spit in our faces in the hereafter," he would say.
33:05Gee.
33:06Yeah.
33:06Amine.
33:08Very important.
33:09Sincerity,
33:10The inside and the outside must be one.
33:13Who can you hide from whom?
33:15What can you hide, and from whom?
33:16But here's why,
33:19Dear teacher,
33:21It is necessary to have an opinion about the quality and quantity of existence.
33:26The other you,
33:27So, God exists.
33:29Besides, there's nothing else.
33:32From your belief,
33:33This, as you know, is the answer our Prophet gave to a question.
33:37Sir,
33:39You have to live with this to be sincere.
33:42Yes.
33:44not self-interest,
33:45with sincerity,
33:46at peace with everything,
33:48It is the ability to fulfill one's servitude openly in all matters.
33:52This is the highest degree of life.
33:55Sir,
33:55We call it servitude,
33:56And then, of course, there is art.
33:58So there is a relationship between art and servitude.
34:01Yes.
34:01We know that Sufis, in particular, highly valued art.
34:07This has been the case throughout history.
34:09Art,
34:10that speaks to the human soul,
34:13to their senses,
34:13We know it is a discipline that appeals most to the emotional aspect.
34:17And here, art is the most effective form.
34:20If we were to express it in terms of language,
34:23that is, what we call the language of melodies,
34:25The language of melodies,
34:27How would you evaluate this relationship between art and servitude?
34:34So, we're going to get to the ontology of it,
34:38We need to proceed from there.
34:40The realm of existence,
34:41Even by today's modern scientific researchers,
34:48In other words, it has also been recognized by the secular world.
34:52So it binds them.
34:54But they also provide us with a source.
34:57The entire universe is a frequency structure.
35:02Matter is relative.
35:04It depends.
35:06Under what conditions does the substance
35:08It is seen as a substance and can be identified.
35:12Under what conditions,
35:14when all the divisions are involved,
35:16It transforms into an ocean of atoms, or even a sea of quarks,
35:26It is impossible to detect anything material there.
35:31So, such a structure exists.
35:33This is how God's law has manifested itself.
35:36Music, being a frequency,
35:40He is able to reshape this structure, the essence of this structure, however he wants.
35:50It can boost morale,
35:52Sir, it can dispel sorrow.
35:55Or it can make a person sad,
35:58It leads people towards beauty, or unfortunately, it leads people towards beauty.
36:02Sir, it can lead to negligence and even more dire situations.
36:09So music is like a weapon.
36:13No simile.
36:14It only gains meaning when it's in someone's hands.
36:17So, considering Musi, which includes all three of us,
36:24We teach people about Allah, the Messenger of Allah, and the saints of Allah.
36:28and to remind people of good morals
36:31We have been practicing our art through hymns for many years.
36:35This is a service side.
36:38The most important place where music is used is,
36:42the most valuable place,
36:43This is a recitation of the Holy Quran.
36:45Yes, that is, reciting the Quran with a beautiful voice.
36:50It's Emrullah, anyway.
36:52Showcase your beautiful voices.
36:54Get your thesis.
36:55Let me tell you something.
36:57We believe and we are truthful.
36:58So the issue also has a starting point,
37:03As is known, it is recited as mihrabiye after the morning and evening prayers,
37:08recited in mosques,
37:10Those who did it individually also read it themselves.
37:13It is the last verse of Surah Al-Hajj.
37:15Halikul barul musavvir.
37:18I say this often,
37:20anywhere.
37:21Such a creator,
37:22such a creation,
37:25at least there are no shortcomings,
37:27no shortcomings,
37:28to create in a way that leaves no need
37:31and the painter.
37:33When you say "Musavvir" (artist/artist),
37:35all the fine arts,
37:37that is, the fine arts,
37:39All of this is included.
37:41As you said in Muski,
37:44as one of its finest examples,
37:48in human construction,
37:50while building the human being,
37:52in spiritual purification and in a person's place in society,
37:56example,
37:58a servant,
38:00a caliph,
38:02In order to be a follower of Muhammad,
38:06That's what Emrah Hazretleri says.
38:08Sohfu, he hasn't come to us yet, listen to this song,
38:12See how the strings pray to God,
38:15As he said.
38:16Thanks.
38:17Sir,
38:18God Almighty says in the Glorious Quran,
38:20Everything glorifies God, but...
38:23you,
38:24in terms of understanding,
38:26Unfortunately,
38:27Because you're not very successful,
38:29I soften it like this,
38:30You wouldn't understand.
38:31He leaves and goes away.
38:32Of course,
38:33So this too,
38:33like the prayer of an object,
38:35wires,
38:37melodies,
38:37notes,
38:38It becomes a prayer.
38:40My dear friend,
38:42of course,
38:42you too,
38:44In the Balkans,
38:45You created some very beautiful works.
38:47There, for example,
38:48reminder,
38:49There were some particularly remarkable works.
38:52For example,
38:52Kishna Dova,
38:55Prayer for rain
38:56Was that what you meant?
38:57Yes.
38:58For example, this work,
38:59at that time,
39:01They were going through difficult times.
39:03Aliye,
39:03Mr. Izzet,
39:05late,
39:05late,
39:06late,
39:06late,
39:07What does it mean to you?
39:09Let's talk about it in a moment.
39:10Our Sultan,
39:11Write in Nurlar.
39:11Now,
39:13Master,
39:15you are talking,
39:16truly,
39:17insatiable,
39:17One,
39:18There are emotions,
39:19We can listen,
39:20until morning,
39:20My speech,
39:21maybe now,
39:22He wants.
39:22God forbid,
39:23Is that even possible?
39:23Now,
39:24You just said,
39:26Humbly,
39:27ours,
39:27maybe we'll have a chance,
39:29Adamin,
39:30We will say, "Fadli Rabbi".
39:31Lutfu,
39:32Our Lord,
39:33in this way,
39:35this energy,
39:36to be able to transfer
39:37to people,
39:38to their hearts,
39:39through this strict way,
39:41by the strict way,
39:41Yes.
39:42at work,
39:42sincere,
39:43when it happens in a certain way,
39:44however,
39:45from the heart,
39:46It can reach the heart.
39:48Sir,
39:48since,
39:50This,
39:51It continues,
39:52So,
39:53Master,
39:53truly,
39:54You did it very sincerely,
39:56He came all the way here,
39:57It reached as far as the Balkans,
39:58my teacher,
39:59It's the same for you,
40:00And it continues,
40:00And it's still ongoing.
40:02Hopefully.
40:03And hopefully it would continue.
40:04Now,
40:05Kisha Dova's,
40:06It has a feature,
40:08It was raining.
40:09prayer means,
40:09pardon.
40:11The late Ali Izbekovic,
40:13Our master,
40:14the day he passed away
40:16funeral,
40:17on the day it happened,
40:18It was raining.
40:20It was raining.
40:23This is a bond,
40:25Actually, this
40:26bringing words together,
40:28My friend,
40:29Amina Şilyak,
40:30Yesenkovic,
40:31It is very well known in Türkiye.
40:32Our academician.
40:33Yes.
40:34One evening,
40:35with him,
40:36We were having a conversation, sir.
40:37a sincere conversation.
40:39We had suffered a great loss.
40:41Yes.
40:42Respectfully,
40:43That day, it occurred to me too,
40:46my late father's,
40:47It rained on the day he died, too.
40:50Therefore,
40:51such a bond,
40:52It was used.
40:53Yes.
40:53Such a,
40:54After writing the lyrics,
40:56narizane,
40:57We composed that piece.
40:59So there is one,
41:00patience and resilience,
41:02Does he have a symbolic stance?
41:04Yes.
41:04There, for the late Ali Zedbegov,
41:07Because I know him personally,
41:08My late self and,
41:10a little more,
41:11You're lucky.
41:12Thanks.
41:13I would very much like that too.
41:14a hug.
41:15Truly,
41:16very good conversationalists,
41:18more or less,
41:18Or let him rest in peace.
41:19Amine.
41:20They called him the Wise King.
41:22truly.
41:23I said something once,
41:24Maybe I don't want to lose contact, but...
41:27I said, "Hey!"
41:28grandfather,
41:29That's what I would say.
41:30Hey grandpa, I said,
41:31We,
41:32They are Muslim,
41:33We are Muslims.
41:34Arabs are Muslim.
41:35Iranians are Muslim.
41:36This happened during the war.
41:39I said,
41:40I,
41:40I had gone on a trip.
41:42At that time,
41:43I was the head of the Young Muslims Organization.
41:45At the same time,
41:46Because,
41:48They didn't have passports.
41:49Yugoslavia had disintegrated, sir.
41:51We were able to travel too.
41:53I went to a meeting.
41:54I had come, but...
41:55truly,
41:56I was a little disappointed.
41:58Especially from an Arab country.
42:00I'll skip it.
42:01Really?
42:01Let it be a lesson.
42:02Let it not be a lesson.
42:04Sir,
42:05Hey, I said,
42:06I said these,
42:07He doesn't understand.
42:08I said,
42:08I said,
42:09Do you have production facilities?
42:10What's wrong?
42:10Why do you say that?
42:11Hey, he said,
42:11There's no need.
42:12We are the chosen servants of our Lord.
42:15We have oil,
42:16There is this.
42:17I couldn't accept it.
42:18I couldn't accept it, sir.
42:20Then,
42:21I had told this to my grandfather.
42:22He said,
42:23he said, we currently
42:24We need them, in a way.
42:26And he said,
42:28if, he said
42:29If we are going to concentrate on the points that divide us,
42:32if we are going to be,
42:33"There are many of those points," he said.
42:35It unites us.
42:36It unites us.
42:37We will concentrate on the points that bring them together,
42:42Let's succeed.
42:43That's where wisdom lies.
42:45Yes.
42:45How beautiful.
42:46That's where the difference lies.
42:48Well,
42:48We had some friends in particular.
42:52Unfortunately,
42:53just now,
42:54You mentioned it at the entrance.
42:56I wish Bosnia and,
42:58former Yugoslavia countries,
43:00a different one,
43:01if it had made headlines because of the incident.
43:04But unfortunately, we are dealing with war,
43:06We came to the forefront.
43:07The Bosnian War
43:09Kosovo War,
43:10God willing, it will not happen again.
43:12Amine.
43:12He shouldn't wage war anywhere.
43:14Amine.
43:15Especially now,
43:16I'm sorry, but...
43:17With our brothers and sisters in Gaza,
43:18May God help you.
43:19Amine.
43:20We know what you've been through,
43:21We know.
43:22We are the ones who understand them best.
43:24Late,
43:25This is what he said about Ali İzbegol.
43:29Sometimes some people are like this,
43:30He would be very upset.
43:32Professor Savaş,
43:32you know,
43:33someone who has lost
43:35sad
43:36He was devastated.
43:38He would say, "Be careful."
43:39Be patient.
43:40Don't be like them.
43:41If you become like them,
43:43That's when you'll have lost the war.
43:45Yes,
43:45This statement is very important.
43:47Yes.
43:48We will not do what they did.
43:50If we become like them,
43:51We will lose the war then.
43:53He said this.
43:54Oh my God.
43:55Yes.
43:55That's what the deceased said.
43:58And therefore that piece as well,
44:00while composing,
44:02While reading, my teacher,
44:03He describes it.
44:05Would you sing a little?
44:07Just a little bit.
44:08Ya nisam plakao,
44:11od svo yetrine iste,
44:14pred jednom camion,
44:18sveskopske çarşiye,
44:21muşkarcine plaçu,
44:23matitat reklayer,
44:27muşkarcine mayu,
44:31sat pravona suze,
44:35hochudamo yatuga,
44:38savo meni pripa'ya,
44:42da skriyem suze od,
44:46dostai od düşmana.
44:50How beautiful.
44:51It continues like this.
44:52I absolutely love them.
44:54Yes,
44:54Even though we don't understand their words.
45:04I believe you've composed a new piece.
45:09Congratulations, master!
45:11My teacher,
45:12if he/she wants,
45:14You said...
45:15Since I was 14 years old,
45:20I hadn't cried.
45:23My mother always reminded me, too.
45:26She doesn't cry for men.
45:28So much time has passed.
45:30But now they say men cry, actually.
45:33There's a saying like that too.
45:34We have muskarcine plaç,
45:36My mother told me that men don't cry.
45:39It occurred to me,
45:41But I'm having a hard time controlling myself that day.
45:43And I want this sadness,
45:46Hoçudam and Tuga should be mine alone.
45:50What, my friend?
45:51May my enemy never see this sorrow of mine.
45:53If someone accidentally sees one of my tears,
45:57I would say,
45:59on the domes of this mosque,
46:03They are the drops from the flowing gutters.
46:07And it continues like this, sir.
46:09How beautiful.
46:09Very good.
46:10Master,
46:11While we're in this mood,
46:12I'd say, "Forgive me, let's read my rebellion," but...
46:18If you'd like, we can read it on the way back too.
46:20However you like?
46:21Because it's almost time for breaking the fast in Ankara.
46:25There's not much time left.
46:26I think we shouldn't cut it.
46:27Sure, whatever you want.
46:28Yes, the sadness of Bosnia and the emotions experienced there,
46:33I find that my brother Burhan has come to terms with his voice.
46:37Exactly, exactly.
46:39Even if we don't understand it.
46:39I am someone who has known Bosnia since the time of former Yugoslavia.
46:45We filmed the series "Alişile Zeylep" there for TRT.
46:52Back then, in Yugoslavia.
46:54Sir, since those times I have also had the opportunity to observe the sociology of that region.
47:01Yes.
47:03My brothers and sisters from Bosnia believed so sincerely that...
47:09These people are our relatives.
47:13You seem to be missing the call to prayer.
47:14Master, it's time for the call to prayer.
47:15Iftar time in Ankara.
47:17Enjoy your meal.
47:18May God accept your prayers, sir.
47:20We will be together again.
47:21We are in a time period when the heavens ascend and the joy of breaking the fast is experienced.
47:27Throughout our country, in every province, people are currently experiencing the joy of breaking their fast.
47:33And everyone is waiting to break their fast with a piece of bread, water, or dates in their hands.
47:39Ankara broke its fast.
47:40Enjoy your meal.
47:41We say, "May God accept it."
47:43And our conversation with our master began...
47:47We were talking about Bosnia.
47:48We were talking about Bosnia.
47:49Let's continue from there.
47:51Let me put it this way.
47:5482.
47:55We filmed Alişe Zeyneb in Bosnia in 1984.
48:03And in other places, sir, it was filmed by traveling around quite a bit.
48:12My Bosnian brothers believed it so sincerely.
48:17We took in relatives, we took daughters in marriage, we gave daughters in marriage.
48:20They were under the impression that there wouldn't be any problems between them.
48:25And they were living a very comfortable life.
48:27Music until dawn, strolls around, you should have seen that Bosnian palace.
48:35There was a fantastic carnival atmosphere and all that.
48:39I honestly just said it to myself.
48:41God knows, I said, oh Lord, I hope these brothers of mine are not mistaken.
48:45There's still no sign of anything happening, not even a egg.
48:47So I prayed that there wouldn't be a price to pay for having so many heirs.
48:55And very shortly afterwards, sadly, something that still breaks our hearts happened.
49:02I went then, I went later, and I went after the war.
49:06The places that were so green when I used to go there are now just white tombstones.
49:13So I can make that distinction.
49:16And that hurts us a lot.
49:18May God never let us experience such a thing again.
49:20Amine.
49:20We actually crossed the Moslar Bridge, filmed a scene, took shots of it.
49:27Then they blew up those places.
49:30Oh God, take that place away.
49:32He rebuilt my Turkey.
49:34We've just done something even older, sir.
49:35Hallelujah.
49:36Hallelujah.
49:37Master, of course, one of the most beautiful manifestations of sincerity is supplication, asking for forgiveness, and turning to God from the heart.
49:49And the sincere part of it is known only to God.
49:54So we don't know.
49:55How sincere and heartfelt we are when we repent.
49:59But we say tears wipe away sin.
50:03Amine.
50:04And a sincere tear from the heart takes away and destroys all sins.
50:11This is a great blessing.
50:13This is reflected in our hymns as well.
50:15There is no doubt.
50:16I know you composed that beautiful hymn, which we know by the pseudonym Aşk-i.
50:23Forgive my rebellion.
50:24Oh, my dear, my God!
50:26Thank you, thank you.
50:27If you sing, we'll join in.
50:31Oh, how wonderful that would be, how wonderful.
50:34Let's all sing it together, all of us together.
50:35Thanks.
50:36Well, in the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
50:39Forgive my rebellion, my plight is dire, O God.
50:49Forgive my rebellion, my plight is dire, O God.
50:57My Refet, my rebellion, my Refet, my rebellion, oh my God, help me!
51:23Oh my God, I'm in a terrible situation.
51:27My dear Sultan, you are a formidable one.
51:30My notebook is full of black marks, my deeds are all sin.
51:39My hatred is full of black, my deeds are utterly sinful.
51:51You are evil to your servant, help me, oh God!
52:01Oh my God, I'm in a terrible situation.
52:07You are evil to your servant, help me, oh God!
52:17Oh my God, I'm in a terrible situation.
52:24The community of His beloved, the healer of hearts.
52:33The community of His beloved, the healer of hearts.
52:45Have mercy on this stranger, help him, oh God!
52:54My dear Sultan, you are a formidable one.
53:01Have mercy on this stranger, help him, oh God!
53:11Oh my God, I'm in a terrible situation.
53:14My dear Sultan, you are a formidable one.
53:17Set my love free, and gladden me with your beauty.
53:26Set my love free, and gladden me with your beauty.
53:38Call me by the name of My servant, O God, help me!
53:48My dear Sultan, you are a formidable one.
53:54Call me by the name of My servant, O God, help me!
54:05My dear Sultan, you are a formidable one.
54:13That's great, it turned out very well. Thank you.
54:15Our souls truly found peace.
54:19So, within it, it gives us such beautiful insights into sincerity.
54:26For example, you are my refuge.
54:30Who else is there to turn to for refuge?
54:33For a servant.
54:34This requires sincerity.
54:37To understand this.
54:38Then remember me as "My servant."
54:40What does this mean, master? What kind of thing is it?
54:44"My servant is enough for me," He says.
54:47I have an anecdote, excuse me.
54:50Here you go.
54:52Someone came to another person.
54:55He said, "I had a dream."
54:59I want to tell you about it.
55:01What's wrong?
55:02I don't know if he'll like it or not, but... he says.
55:07He says he'll explain.
55:08Tell me about it, he says.
55:10I swear, God spoke to me in my dream.
55:15Yes.
55:16He said, "Here is my servant, so-and-so."
55:19Go to that servant of mine and tell him I will put him in hell.
55:28What did he say, what did he say?
55:30Go tell that servant of mine that I will put him in hell.
55:35What did he say?
55:36Say it again.
55:37Go and tell that servant of mine.
55:40Even God is joking.
55:42He says he's my servant, and yet he'll put me in hell.
55:46Every time He speaks, every one of My servants receives a bag of gold as a reward for Allah pointing to him as His servant.
55:55Wow.
55:56Tell me, what did he say? Take it for my servant.
55:59Tell me, what did he say to my servant?
56:01That's what servitude is like.
56:02Hallelujah.
56:02Provided that He accepts him into His service.
56:05Hallelujah.
56:05The rest is easy.
56:06Well, we've come to the end of this lovely and pleasant conversation.
56:09Unfortunately.
56:10Really?
56:10In our Ramadan Joy program.
56:12First of all, thank you very much.
56:14Thank you.
56:15We were really happy.
56:17Brother Burhan, we thank you very much as well.
56:19Thank you, sir.
56:20You have honored us with your presence.
56:21As you said, it went by very quickly.
56:24It passed very quickly.
56:24Perhaps we were unable to answer all your questions.
56:26You're probably right.
56:27Let it be.
56:27Professor, are you tired of listening to you?
56:29Your conversation is enough.
56:30May God bless you.
56:31Master, let's go to the Istanbul iftar with prayers, please.
56:34Not at all.
56:36Hallelujah.
56:37Hallelujah.
56:39Hallelujah.
56:39Then praise be to Allah.
56:41Peace and blessings be upon you, O Messenger of Allah.
56:44Assalatu vesselamu aleyke ya Habiballah.
56:47Peace and blessings be upon you, O our Master, our Veline, and our Last.
56:52And peace be upon the messengers.
56:55And their families, and praise be to Allah, Lord of the worlds.
56:57Amine.
56:58O Lord of the worlds.
56:59Right now, they are raising their hands to the sky, offering the iftar prayer.
57:04O Lord, accept the prayers of all your servants.
57:09Amine.
57:09O Lord of the worlds, as we tried to say in the program, make us among your sincere servants.
57:15Amine.
57:15Accept me into His service, O Lord.
57:17Amine.
57:18O Lord of the worlds, grant us the grace to live the true meaning of fasting.
57:21Allahu Akbar Allahu Akbar Allahu Akbar Allahu Akbar Allahu Akbar.
57:23Amine.
57:23Oh Lord, let us not go hungry.
57:25Amine.
57:26Amen, O Helper.
57:27Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar.
57:28Praise be to Allah, Glory be to Allah.
57:28And praise be to Allah, O Lord.
57:30Sir, it is time for iftar in Istanbul. May Allah accept your prayers.
57:33Amine.
57:34I bear witness that there is no god but Allah, I bear witness that there is no god but Allah.
57:53Ladies and gentlemen, this evening's episode of our Ramadan Joy program on TRT1 has come to an end.
57:59We discussed a very important topic tonight.
58:02We spoke of devotion and sincerity.
58:05How can we transcend mere words, lips, language, and appearances to grasp the true meaning and reality of things?
58:13How can we resolve the duality within ourselves?
58:16How can we illuminate our hearts, which are the dwelling place of the divine gaze?
58:19We tried to discuss these things and strived to understand that being a servant of God is superior to any position or rank.
58:29And so, we've come to the end of our program for this evening.
58:31Tomorrow, at the same time, the Ramadan Joy program will be on TRT1, and we will hopefully meet our new guests.
58:42And tomorrow our guests will be Prof. Dr. Huriye Martı, member of the High Council of Religious Affairs, and clinical psychologist Müjde Yahşi.
58:50Until we meet again at the same time tomorrow, may God protect you.
58:55Goodbye, dear viewers.
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