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00:00:08you've all agreed to come here to take an unconventional approach to find love
00:00:12how are you i'm good how are you i'm good what was your name derek derek i'm pfeiffer
00:00:22i saw my life loss before my eyes i think you're kind of sometimes sort of okay cool
00:00:30do you want to get married
00:00:34bye babe romeo romeo if you feel as if you found that special connection
00:00:42you can invite that person into the promise room i'm 54. i'm 27. oh my god does that scare you
00:00:51my son is older than you i had a child before he was even born i'm 27. what
00:01:00i'm 60. he's 33 years older than me jorge's literally the same age as my parents
00:01:10now it's time to take things to the next level as you'll all move in together and begin to ask
00:01:16the tough questions do we see a future together the real world is about to smack us in the face
00:01:21you see me as somebody that's you know as your equal or do you see me as somebody who's lesser
00:01:26because you're older than i am you have to trust your partner and i have to trust mine
00:01:31if we don't if you don't have that you know what i mean okay i'm really done
00:01:35okay can i get this mic off you please i've never felt this way on someone before and i know
00:01:42i won't
00:01:42find this again i can't believe you right now it's kind of like the honeymoon phase was the retreat and
00:01:49we already passed the honeymoon phase this is where things get real because it's time to introduce
00:01:56your bold new love story to the people who matter most your friends your families if like my kids are
00:02:05here and they are like mom this is not good i don't know if i could move forward with them
00:02:11us meeting
00:02:12our family is another step am i nervous about introducing somebody that's 20 years older than me to my parents
00:02:23yes
00:02:40now you're cleaning what now you're suddenly like domesticated
00:02:46someone's coming to town for you oh they're not coming here i'm sure they're not staying here
00:02:51that would be so awkward and weird um how do you feel i feel good i'm excited to see who
00:03:00it is
00:03:01who do you think it is your sister and your parents um i don't think it's both my parents i
00:03:09think it's
00:03:09probably my maybe some mom and sister i'm excited me seeing my family
00:03:21first will be easier for me when i meet yours yeah because i'm nervous about yours
00:03:28so i get to get mine i get to get mine out of the way first
00:03:33how do you feel definitely nervous like
00:03:40i don't yeah i'm trying to remember when the last time that i've been in this kind of a situation
00:03:47meeting a family it's been a long time so are you going to tell them age no because you don't
00:03:54want
00:03:54me to tell you them age are you like on the same page as me with like them getting to
00:04:00know me before
00:04:01that absolutely and this that's why this whole experience has been cool because that's how i do it
00:04:05in the real world i don't care if i don't if your kids don't like me this is done if
00:04:11you didn't like
00:04:12me it doesn't matter how old i am if i didn't like you it didn't matter how old you are
00:04:16sure so
00:04:18i think build the base what we've done yeah and then you even said it you wouldn't have gone out
00:04:24with
00:04:25me if you knew my age from the beginning right and look what you would have missed out on
00:04:31i know all right yeah i would have missed out on a great guy
00:04:37i might just go throw up a little bit i'm just kidding
00:04:56i'm feeling terrible i'm not feeling terrible yeah i'm big stressed though i think last night i was
00:05:03in a good mood i was like oh it's so excited to see everybody whoever it may be um and
00:05:08then i woke up
00:05:09this morning and i was like i'm not excited anymore yeah um so stressed out yeah i'm super
00:05:17stressed i'm not going to be hesitant because i have no control over who's coming or like what
00:05:23that's going to look like yeah um but yeah i'm definitely like i woke up not in great mood yeah
00:05:30i don't really want to dive into all this right now yeah i understand um but i'm just yeah i'm
00:05:38like
00:05:39not feeling great about that well i'm supportive i hope you know i know i know i know uh with
00:05:48whoever is coming right um i mean it's kind of a part of it like yes it's all very new
00:05:55but
00:05:56the point is to face the challenges of the other side of the fence right and face them together if
00:06:03the connection and the relationship is strong enough but that's perfectly normal for you to be
00:06:10a little bit nervous about it what would be your perfect scenario
00:06:14i don't i don't want to do this right now okay i just i don't want to talk about it
00:06:20right now and i
00:06:22really don't want to have i just don't want to have conversation
00:06:29no you don't want to
00:06:35last night i don't think it really hit me what's in store for us with our families coming
00:06:42to put it frankly they've never really seen me emotional or vulnerable with a man
00:06:49and i've also never brought anybody home nearly as old as derek i'm just afraid
00:06:57and anxious
00:06:58and i don't want to talk to you
00:07:29the more time i'm spending with logan i'm starting to see potential red flags like his fear of
00:07:34commitment you know he's getting scared and i think he has things that he has to work through
00:07:40and maybe some growing up to do
00:07:44i'm the oldest of three girls and my sisters are a year apart and they just have like their
00:07:50picture-perfect lives and everything's dandy and i'm just the one that just keeps like screwing up
00:07:57everything with my relationships it's like i wanted to find my person so i could fit in so i
00:08:03could go do these things you know and it's like is my person a 29 year old like am i
00:08:09gonna build a
00:08:10life with him you know it's gonna be hard to say
00:08:23i thought maybe this was my chance but like as i'm moving forward i i don't know i don't know
00:08:30if this
00:08:30is it
00:08:41is
00:08:42i don't know if it's gonna be hard to say
00:08:47i don't know if it's gonna be hard to say
00:09:10i don't know if it's gonna be hard to say
00:09:10thank you
00:09:11yeah
00:09:11thank you
00:09:13yeah thank you
00:09:13hi i'm marynda hi nice to meet you
00:09:15thank you
00:09:17this is our table
00:09:19this is our table
00:09:19nice
00:09:23really pretty
00:09:23he's been talking a lot about you so i feel like i already know you guys to certain extent
00:09:27this is crazy
00:09:28and you must be like in shock i'm sure
00:09:30hello
00:09:31Yeah.
00:09:32Yeah.
00:09:33It's OK.
00:09:35I am in shock.
00:09:36I think Kate's probably more in shock now today.
00:09:39Yeah.
00:09:40OK, wait.
00:09:41But I want to hear about you guys.
00:09:43So tell me.
00:09:44Explain.
00:09:44How did you first meet?
00:09:46Like, what happened?
00:09:47We hit it off pretty fast.
00:09:49Mm-hmm.
00:09:50You were in, like, one big room and you all met each other.
00:09:53It was like a happy hour.
00:09:54Speed dating.
00:09:54Speed dating thing to start.
00:09:56At the retreat, you're supposed to make connections.
00:09:58Nobody knows anybody's age.
00:09:59And then if you want to, you commit to just dating one person.
00:10:04And then if the feelings are mutual, you reveal your age.
00:10:10Oh.
00:10:11OK.
00:10:12That's the big reveal.
00:10:14Yeah.
00:10:15Our next step was to live together.
00:10:19And it's been fun.
00:10:21Mm-hmm.
00:10:21Ooh.
00:10:22Wow.
00:10:22Yeah.
00:10:24Did you think that you would find a match with someone who's younger than you?
00:10:29Or did you think that you were just, you know, whoever it is?
00:10:32Or?
00:10:33No.
00:10:33I mean, there were all ages and everything.
00:10:36And, like, when you don't know some of those, like, details.
00:10:40And you're just meeting each other based on, like, how you interact.
00:10:44Compatibility.
00:10:45Yeah.
00:10:45And, like, attraction and all that other stuff.
00:10:47Like, does, like, what really matters in a relationship.
00:10:51Mm-hmm.
00:10:51And what's important.
00:10:52I mean, I think we both really like each other and are wanting to continue.
00:10:58Mm-hmm.
00:10:58But, you know, we're just taking it day by day and see what happens.
00:11:02And, you know, see how many blueberries he drops on the carpet.
00:11:05No.
00:11:05Just kidding.
00:11:07So what does your family think about this?
00:11:09My, my family does not really know anything.
00:11:14Like, they're, yeah.
00:11:16My mom, she's, like, she knew I was going to do something.
00:11:20But she's, like, not totally.
00:11:22Her mom was a nurse.
00:11:23Yeah, my mom was a nurse.
00:11:24Oh, okay.
00:11:25Yeah.
00:11:26So, yeah.
00:11:27So, so, little by little, we'll see.
00:11:29You assume that she will be coming or something?
00:11:31I don't know.
00:11:32I have no idea.
00:11:33Like, it would be great to just stay in, like, a bubble for the rest of our lives.
00:11:36But that's not reality.
00:11:39Right?
00:11:40Yeah, it's true.
00:11:41Bubbles, the bubble's growing today.
00:11:42Yeah.
00:11:43All right, I'm going to run to the bathroom really quick.
00:11:45Okay.
00:11:46We'll be here.
00:11:46Okay.
00:11:47Eating the caviar.
00:11:48Yeah, don't eat at all.
00:11:50Oh, don't worry.
00:11:50It'll be here when you get back.
00:11:52Oh.
00:11:54So, how's it been living with someone?
00:11:56You've never lived with someone before.
00:11:57I mean, Danielle and I lived at the college house together.
00:12:01She just...
00:12:02I know.
00:12:03Obviously, the elephant in the room, you guys know, but...
00:12:07And how old she is?
00:12:08Yeah, but it doesn't matter.
00:12:10Yeah.
00:12:10It's been smooth.
00:12:11It's not, we're not getting married tomorrow.
00:12:14Right.
00:12:14Has she been married before?
00:12:16Yeah.
00:12:17Does she have children?
00:12:19Uh-huh.
00:12:20Have you met the children?
00:12:23No.
00:12:24Probably tomorrow.
00:12:25Oh, really?
00:12:25Oh.
00:12:27You think so?
00:12:28Probably.
00:12:29But she's really stressed about that.
00:12:30How old are they?
00:12:32How many are they?
00:12:32Should I ask her that?
00:12:33I don't know.
00:12:34No, no, no.
00:12:34Don't talk about kids.
00:12:35She doesn't want...
00:12:37We want to get to know each other and like each other and I'm glad you guys are here.
00:12:43So, how old are they?
00:12:46Don't worry about it.
00:12:47Don't worry about it.
00:12:50I'm just thinking about you and like how life is going to look for you after you leave here.
00:12:56Of course.
00:12:56You know, and I think...
00:12:57We've talked about that.
00:12:58I think that that really makes a difference, how old the kids are and...
00:13:06Yeah.
00:13:07She's starting a new chapter now.
00:13:09That's kind of why she's here.
00:13:11Okay.
00:13:11And we've talked about how I'm not necessarily super happy with work.
00:13:15Okay.
00:13:16How I've kind of been already looking at outlets.
00:13:19Yeah.
00:13:19Am I moving tomorrow?
00:13:20No, I'm not moving tomorrow.
00:13:22Okay.
00:13:22Is she moving tomorrow?
00:13:23No, but it's fun.
00:13:25So, you're comfortable?
00:13:26I'm comfortable, yeah.
00:13:27Oh, good.
00:13:28Being upfront and honest about your situations and what you're coming into the relationship
00:13:33with, I think that's all that matters.
00:13:34Exactly.
00:13:35What you're coming in with.
00:13:36Yeah.
00:13:36When I first saw Teresa, I definitely could tell that she was older.
00:13:39I mean, she's beautiful and she's great looking, but I could definitely tell that
00:13:43she's older than John.
00:13:44I actually don't know how old she is, but he's never dated anyone that I believe to be
00:13:51this much older.
00:13:52I wish that we had maybe found out a little more of the age difference, um, up front.
00:14:00Bye.
00:14:02Obviously, she has children and I think the fact that she didn't bring that up to us in
00:14:06the kind of conversation is a little, um, off-putting to me, I think.
00:14:10I would have liked for her to have shared that information with us.
00:14:14I think it would just make us feel more comfortable with the relationship if we did have these
00:14:18unanswered questions.
00:14:20I hope it works out well for them, but it's weird.
00:14:23It's weird.
00:14:32I think it's fine.
00:14:41It's okay.
00:14:43You want to come a little closer to me?
00:14:45No.
00:14:46No, this is good.
00:14:49I don't want to be close.
00:14:51This is good.
00:14:54Breathe, breathe, breathe.
00:14:56I am.
00:14:57I am.
00:15:01I don't know.
00:15:03Oh, my God.
00:15:04It's both my parents.
00:15:05It's both my parents.
00:15:09Hi.
00:15:11Hello.
00:15:12This is Derek.
00:15:14Hi.
00:15:14Well, I'll shake your hand first.
00:15:16How are you doing?
00:15:16Nice to meet you, Derek.
00:15:18I do.
00:15:19Hey, how's it going?
00:15:20Oh, my God.
00:15:21Nice to meet you.
00:15:21Pleasure.
00:15:21Nice to meet you.
00:15:22Yeah, you too.
00:15:22Absolutely.
00:15:23I was sitting here like, oh my, I was freaking out.
00:15:26Have a seat.
00:15:26Have a seat.
00:15:27Wow, we're really coordinating our outfits here.
00:15:30We are.
00:15:30This is crazy.
00:15:31Man, it's so nice to meet y'all.
00:15:32Nice to meet you.
00:15:33Absolutely.
00:15:34Seeing both of you guys together is definitely a surprise, I would say.
00:15:39All right.
00:15:39Well, that's good.
00:15:40That's good.
00:15:40Yeah.
00:15:41It's a good surprise.
00:15:42Yeah.
00:15:43The last time I've seen both of my parents sitting together like that is when I've gotten
00:15:46into the most trouble of my life in high school.
00:15:48I know both of my parents, particularly my dad, will be skeptical of the relationship
00:15:53and of the environment that this relationship kind of fostered in.
00:15:57Um, so I'm just hoping that I can show him, like, how much Derek really means to me and
00:16:02how, like, Derek is a great guy and I just want him to see that too.
00:16:06So I have to ask, what prompted you to try and meet someone in this fashion?
00:16:12Well, first and foremost, I obviously cared so much for your daughter.
00:16:17So you guys have done a phenomenal job.
00:16:18So I wanted to commend you for that.
00:16:21Um, I just felt the way things were going previously dating, they just weren't working.
00:16:26Okay.
00:16:27Um, and I felt like I was repeating some of the same mistakes, just a different person.
00:16:32There's a common denominator.
00:16:33It's me.
00:16:34So what's going on?
00:16:35What do I need to dive into and have, you know, a better understanding of myself?
00:16:39So what, what are the quirky things that you've noticed about each other or things that you didn't expect?
00:16:46There's nothing really out of, out of the ordinary.
00:16:50Like, she's very clean.
00:16:52Which is...
00:16:53Really?
00:16:54Oh, is she, is she putting on? Say something.
00:16:57Okay, what?
00:16:58Okay.
00:16:59That's a different conversation.
00:17:01I am clean.
00:17:02Okay.
00:17:03So if you guys decide that you, you know, want to continue a relationship,
00:17:08what are your, what are your ideas on how to make that work?
00:17:11Right.
00:17:12Yeah.
00:17:13Um, so this is something, I mean, we haven't really talked about.
00:17:15I'm the more flexible one because, of course, um, I'm younger than Derek.
00:17:21Uh, okay.
00:17:22And by how much, I'm curious.
00:17:26Um, quite a bit.
00:17:28Um.
00:17:30So I'm 43.
00:17:33Okay.
00:17:34You look good for 43.
00:17:37Yeah.
00:17:37Yeah.
00:17:38And so we didn't know each other's ages.
00:17:40That was sick.
00:17:41Wow.
00:17:41Okay.
00:17:42I would never have thought you're 43.
00:17:43Oh, thank you.
00:17:44Yeah, I didn't have any idea.
00:17:45I was shocked.
00:17:46No, none.
00:17:46I was shocked.
00:17:47Do you have any concerns about Pfeiffer's age?
00:17:50I'm accepting of the generational gap.
00:17:52I just know that there are going to be some differences.
00:17:55As long as we're both open.
00:17:57Yeah.
00:17:57That was, that was my biggest concern.
00:17:59And so right now it's like, let's build during the bubble and continue to get to know each other.
00:18:03So when we do have the challenges, then we can rely on that.
00:18:07So.
00:18:07Yeah.
00:18:08Um, so Derek has two children as well.
00:18:14Um, but one of the things that, I mean, drew me to Derek was, you guys know I want a
00:18:18big family.
00:18:19Yeah.
00:18:19Like I want a bunch of kids.
00:18:21Um, and so he already has that maturity and that understanding of like what it takes, you know, to raise
00:18:28children.
00:18:28Um, and how, how old are your children?
00:18:31Fifteen and five.
00:18:33Okay.
00:18:33Wow.
00:18:33That's a big gap.
00:18:34A big gap.
00:18:35I know.
00:18:36Okay.
00:18:37Primarily I was looking for somebody who had their, like had their life together.
00:18:42Who's mature.
00:18:43Who is open-minded and not judgmental and understanding and like meets me where I'm at in life.
00:18:50Um, I hold you in such a high regard and such a high respect.
00:18:54Um, and it's like, yeah, like I'm like proud to be with somebody.
00:18:58Who is, like has done so much and accomplished so much.
00:19:03Um, but still is like a very genuine, down to earth, authentic person.
00:19:07Family is the most important thing and love and showing that.
00:19:11So it's, it's flowing smoothly.
00:19:13Okay.
00:19:13Yeah.
00:19:14Yeah.
00:19:14That's important stuff.
00:19:15Absolutely.
00:19:16Yeah.
00:19:16Could we have a chat as well?
00:19:17Oh yeah, absolutely.
00:19:18Absolutely.
00:19:19All right.
00:19:23Okay.
00:19:23So fill me in.
00:19:25About what?
00:19:25Like everything or how I'm feeling or what?
00:19:28How are you feeling?
00:19:29How?
00:19:29I feel great.
00:19:30And it sounds like ridiculous kind of.
00:19:33Um, but like we have been so lucky.
00:19:36Like we have been, we have had the best experience.
00:19:39We have had like literally like no arguments, no fights.
00:19:44Being 23.
00:19:45Mm-hmm.
00:19:47And potentially having two immediate children.
00:19:51Yeah.
00:19:52I mean, like it is, it is what it is, I guess.
00:19:56And you hated babysitting.
00:19:58And I was bad at babysitting, which I haven't told him that.
00:20:01I haven't even told him that I did babysit.
00:20:03In this setting, how much can you know about a person?
00:20:06But, the ease between the two of you, like, it's actually unusual for her to be that comfortable.
00:20:15That's like a big thing.
00:20:17Yeah.
00:20:18I mean, you know, your daughter obviously, she'll get worked up and I'm like, just roll, you know, with the
00:20:24punches a little bit.
00:20:24It'll be fine, but her mind will just take off.
00:20:29Yeah.
00:20:29You know?
00:20:30So, yeah, it'll be, it'll be interesting.
00:20:32Yeah.
00:20:32To see like how this unfolds.
00:20:34When Pfeiffer sets her mind to something, she does it.
00:20:38And it may not, it may not be easy, but if, if the relationship is important to her and she
00:20:46loves Derek,
00:20:47um, she will make this situation work.
00:20:53I think it's like, joy, that, I know this is a weird way to express joy.
00:21:02Um, but when you can get to a place where you trust your kid, you feel so fortunate.
00:21:16So when you're 40.
00:21:18Yep.
00:21:19And he's 60.
00:21:20Mm-hmm.
00:21:21Do you have worry, worries or concerns about that or when he, you know, you're 50 and he's 70?
00:21:26Um, I mean, that's a great question.
00:21:29I know it's hard because I've never done this in my life, but like live like day by day.
00:21:33But yeah, I mean, it is, it's kind of funny.
00:21:37Very surreal.
00:21:39Yeah.
00:21:40They seem to have a great connection and frankly the communication that it seems they have is stronger than I've
00:21:47seen Pfeiffer have with anyone.
00:21:49But this is a little microcosm that isn't the real world.
00:21:52So when you have to deal with the day to day of, you know, children's schedules or, you know, a
00:21:59mom being in the picture, it could be a make or break.
00:22:02It may be too much for either one or both of them.
00:22:06That's a challenge.
00:22:20Hey you.
00:22:21What's up?
00:22:22You wearing your shirt already?
00:22:24I don't know.
00:22:25What if you stain it?
00:22:26I know.
00:22:27I would wait.
00:22:28Don't worry, I don't have makeup on.
00:22:30How are you feeling?
00:22:32I'm excited.
00:22:33Are you?
00:22:33I'm super excited.
00:22:34Yeah?
00:22:34Are you nervous?
00:22:35I'm a little nervous.
00:22:36I'm like nervous more that I'm excited more to see who's here.
00:22:41You think I should open the button or leave it?
00:22:44Depends.
00:22:44Mom, okay.
00:22:45Who?
00:22:46Let's see.
00:22:47What would your mom think if you had your shirt unbuttoned like this, basically trying to tempt me?
00:22:51Yeah.
00:22:52That's how it is.
00:22:52That's how you look at it.
00:23:01Nervous?
00:23:01I'm pretty nervous.
00:23:03I'm not gonna lie.
00:23:04We'll be fine.
00:23:05Look at, look at, look at.
00:23:07Holy shit.
00:23:09My God.
00:23:10Dude, you crazy girls.
00:23:16You little liar.
00:23:19Hi.
00:23:20I called for him.
00:23:21Nice to meet you.
00:23:22Oh.
00:23:23Hey girls.
00:23:26Where is everyone from?
00:23:28I'm so happy you're here.
00:23:29I'm from New Jersey.
00:23:30Okay.
00:23:30We met in college.
00:23:32I'm from San Diego.
00:23:34Okay.
00:23:34High school.
00:23:35Your makeup looks good.
00:23:36Your face looks good.
00:23:37Thanks.
00:23:40Yeah.
00:23:41Okay.
00:23:42How was your travels here?
00:23:44Good.
00:23:46What does the bracelet say?
00:23:47My daughter made this for me, like, years ago.
00:23:50I'm just getting straight into it.
00:23:51Sorry.
00:23:52How old are your kids?
00:23:54Oh, 14 and 12.
00:23:5514 and 12.
00:24:00Sorry.
00:24:01I'm getting side-eyed over here.
00:24:03I'm like, oh.
00:24:04No, I just, I just like to look.
00:24:06Gotcha.
00:24:06I like to observe.
00:24:09I mean, I know that the judgments aren't being made, and it's really hard to just stand there and act
00:24:15normal and try and prove myself.
00:24:17But I honestly don't think that my friends have ever seen me with somebody who is a good candidate.
00:24:24And I think he's, he's in the running.
00:24:27I am going to become a therapist, so your, your head might get shranked a little bit.
00:24:30I'm here for it.
00:24:31I want to know about, like, your past relationship.
00:24:35Which one?
00:24:36The mother of my children.
00:24:38Give them all to me.
00:24:39Wait, how many baby moms do you have?
00:24:40We can, we can start with the mother of your children.
00:24:41Let's start with your children.
00:24:42So it's, it's just one.
00:24:44It just didn't work out.
00:24:45I was young, so.
00:24:47How old were you?
00:24:4722.
00:24:48Okay.
00:24:48When I had my first daughter.
00:24:50So my age.
00:24:51Our age.
00:24:51Our age.
00:24:53Yeah.
00:24:54She's an amazing mom.
00:24:57We still have a really good relationship.
00:24:58We do birthdays, holidays.
00:25:00I understand that.
00:25:02I want to hear it, though, from, like, her side.
00:25:05I'm sorry, but, like, men and women have, like, very different sides.
00:25:08I would, I would honestly, and I'm not just bullshitting you, like, I would be surprised if she said anything
00:25:14besides what I just said.
00:25:16Yeah.
00:25:16How old are you?
00:25:17Sorry.
00:25:17For 38.
00:25:19Okay.
00:25:22Yeah.
00:25:23Okay.
00:25:23How do you feel about dating younger?
00:25:26So, I was a little surprised when I found out her age.
00:25:30Didn't know ages, anything like that.
00:25:32It was just strictly based off of, like, connection and what we told each other.
00:25:37I feel like we're great.
00:25:38We're great roommates.
00:25:39We're having a good time.
00:25:41Maybe this is, like, a relationship.
00:25:43It's not a roommate situation.
00:25:46That's so true.
00:25:48What's the next question?
00:25:50No.
00:25:51There's no other question.
00:25:55I don't know who those are.
00:25:57Those are his friends.
00:25:59What's up?
00:25:59How we doing?
00:26:07How we doing?
00:26:08How we doing?
00:26:09How we doing?
00:26:09I'm going to wear this shirt.
00:26:09Yeah, I gotta tell you that.
00:26:12Hey.
00:26:13Nice to meet you.
00:26:15Nice to meet you.
00:26:15Good to meet you.
00:26:15I'm Rob.
00:26:16Nice to meet you too.
00:26:17We're girlfriends.
00:26:19I'm assuming that these are, these are your people.
00:26:21These are mine people.
00:26:22Like, no action people.
00:26:24So this is what you've been up to, huh?
00:26:26Yeah.
00:26:26Yeah, that's why I have not responded to the group chat.
00:26:28Yeah, so you have to get the message you said to start, you know, try and find a long distance
00:26:35He's a big part of the reason why I'm here
00:26:37Like he was one of the ones pushing me and I only told a handful of people like Rob
00:26:41You didn't even know I know I know I know well you guys missed this part. We don't know each
00:26:45other's ages at the retreat
00:26:47You don't have your cell phone. You guys know each other's ages right now? We do
00:26:55So how do you guys know you guys wanted to be with each other how did that happen?
00:27:01Prior to learning his age. I was like this guy's good. He's cool
00:27:06He knows what's up a big thing that I
00:27:09Wanted going into this but didn't really think was possible was I was like
00:27:13Please God just send me like a somewhat emotionally mature man or emotionally
00:27:21intelligent
00:27:21Yeah, the initial connection was fun
00:27:28Playful and now we both let our guard down a little bit. It's been good
00:27:32I just spend more and more time together and you're living together. You really can't hide any part of your
00:27:37personality
00:27:38So I just got to know they're married
00:27:43Hey, you want to grab a drink over here?
00:27:45Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
00:27:48You may need some Botox
00:27:51Nina? Sorry
00:27:52So, how old is she?
00:27:5422
00:27:55Hey, hey, hey, hold on
00:27:57You have a bet
00:27:58I love us both
00:28:00I love us both. Hold on. There you go
00:28:01Thank you, sir. I appreciate it
00:28:06It was that she was blonde and that she was 25 to 22 years old
00:28:10Guy's consistent
00:28:12You know, I'll just say that he's very consistent
00:28:13Well, let's just be clear though
00:28:16I was forced into the other side
00:28:17So I had to guess that she was older and brunette
00:28:21But 22?
00:28:23That's tough. That's a big gap
00:28:25Let me guess she's really mature
00:28:27At times
00:28:28For her age
00:28:32What, uh
00:28:34Does she have a job?
00:28:36She does
00:28:36She does PR, social media, marketing
00:28:39Okay
00:28:40I'm happy you're enjoying yourself
00:28:41You're immersing yourself in this experience and all that
00:28:45But, like, first thing, like, in real life
00:28:49Got the bar back home
00:28:50Got the girls back home
00:28:52I mean, it's all things that we have started to have those conversations
00:28:56Yeah
00:28:56And, you know, I think my biggest thing is
00:28:59You
00:29:01You gotta first have the hard conversation of, like
00:29:04Would we be open to having a long-distance relationship
00:29:07And we've talked about that
00:29:09We've talked about the long distance
00:29:10And, I mean, like, you know, we've talked about it
00:29:12Like, I don't need
00:29:13The girls are 14 and 12 now
00:29:15Like, I don't need a stepmom, you know
00:29:17It's almost like big sister vibes
00:29:19There's someone that I can add to the tripod that we have
00:29:21Well
00:29:22Yeah
00:29:24Pretty much does that
00:29:25Um, but no, uh
00:29:27There's no, like, I told her
00:29:28There's no, like, pressure to be that
00:29:31So I think that takes a little bit off
00:29:33When it comes to the age thing
00:29:34Yeah
00:29:35So, look, man
00:29:36I mean, she seems really cool, real fun
00:29:39Yeah
00:29:40She just can't rent a car to drive out to
00:29:42No!
00:29:43I'll rent the car
00:29:45Put it in my name
00:29:46How do you feel about the whole kid thing?
00:29:48The kid thing?
00:29:50Okay, wait
00:29:50I'm sorry, but you're not ready to be a stepmommy
00:29:52Stepmommy
00:29:55I've always felt like a weird, um
00:29:58A responsibility
00:30:00Um, like, as, like, a big sister
00:30:02A lot of the times to younger girls
00:30:04Yeah
00:30:04So it's not like that's, like, my
00:30:05What's the word?
00:30:07That's not my M.O. here
00:30:08I understand where you're coming from
00:30:10With, like, the whole big sister vibe
00:30:11But these are his children, Libby
00:30:14It's not like a, ooh, like, big sister vibe
00:30:17It's like, no, like, you're liking his dad
00:30:19Like, their dad
00:30:20I'm not trying to step in and tell anybody
00:30:22That I'm mommy or I'm stepmommy
00:30:23Or I'm big sister
00:30:24I'm this, that, whatever
00:30:24Like, I'm not trying to do that
00:30:26But for me, I've learned that the things
00:30:29That make it kind of, like, hard to navigate
00:30:32Like, the fact that he has kids
00:30:33And the fact that he's older
00:30:34Have been all the reasons that I like him
00:30:37And that make him the person that he is
00:30:38Yeah
00:30:39And that finally are, like, the emotionally intelligent man
00:30:43That I've been looking for
00:30:44I think Libby has matured
00:30:46I feel like even just the way she's speaking to us
00:30:48Like, as we were sitting there, I was like, wait
00:30:50Who is this?
00:30:51I was like, I don't know who I'm talking to, really
00:30:53But I do think that Libby's kind of wearing these, like, rose-colored glasses
00:30:56And having this positive outlook on what this will look like
00:31:00Outside of this experience
00:31:02She's not being realistic, in my opinion
00:31:04Because, like, what are we doing?
00:31:06This is, like, a bubble that she's in
00:31:07That, like, needs to be popped
00:31:10Look, I know all your concerns would be valid
00:31:14And trust me, the concerns that you're having
00:31:15Are things that have already went through my mind
00:31:19And all of that could come to fruition
00:31:21Like, I've been down this road a time or two
00:31:23But honestly, it really was based off of
00:31:26Did we have, like, chemistry
00:31:29And the things that, like, you would be saying to me right now
00:31:32That you are are the same concerns that I had
00:31:34And I just took it day by day
00:31:36And I was very vocal with her about that
00:31:39I'm like, look, like, I love this
00:31:41And I've been in these situations where it's fun
00:31:44But it's only fun until it's not fun
00:31:46And when it's not fun, then it's the difficult and hard conversations
00:31:49I'm just, I just, I don't know
00:31:51I think it's been real, real tough
00:31:54You got a lot going on there, man
00:31:56You got, you got
00:31:57I mean, she's young
00:31:58Hey, let the man live
00:32:00Oh, he's been living
00:32:02He's been living for a long time
00:32:04Yeah
00:32:05He's been living for a long time
00:32:0616 years longer than her
00:32:07Yeah
00:32:12Don't be so anxious
00:32:15You can't see the future
00:32:22Don't be so mad
00:32:24You can just be
00:32:26Oh, she's, oh, I love this
00:32:28Don't cry, don't cry, don't cry
00:32:33Don't cry now, don't cry now
00:32:36This is Leah
00:32:37So you are a hugger
00:32:37And this is Nina
00:32:38Great to meet you
00:32:42I think this is the time that I needed a piece of home more than anything
00:32:46So I'm happy, I can't believe it
00:32:47Are you happy it's me?
00:32:49Yeah
00:32:49I mean, I had a...
00:32:50I'm happy it's you
00:32:52Thank you
00:32:54Where are you from?
00:32:55California
00:32:56So originally Bakersfield
00:32:57But I travel, so I'm a flight attendant
00:32:59Oh, okay
00:33:00Um, so I travel for a living
00:33:01I think the hardest thing for us has been trying to really understand what our normal routines are and how
00:33:06we fit into that
00:33:07And then also
00:33:08And it's hard here
00:33:09Yeah
00:33:09It takes time, yeah
00:33:11I mean, this probably has been, like, fun
00:33:14And, you know
00:33:15It's been fun, but I...
00:33:17Yeah
00:33:17It's been, you know
00:33:18It's been a lot
00:33:18We haven't just gotten to where we are today
00:33:20I think she was worried about the age gap
00:33:22Obviously you don't know her age yet
00:33:24I don't know how old you are
00:33:25I...
00:33:25She looks like she's 30 probably at the most
00:33:29I love that
00:33:30Yeah
00:33:30I'll take it
00:33:32Maybe add 10 years
00:33:33Really?
00:33:35Plus one
00:33:37Oh my God
00:33:38I'm 41
00:33:40Wow
00:33:41You don't look it at all
00:33:42Thank you
00:33:44So how do you feel about him being 26?
00:33:47As long as he's ready for me, I'm good with it
00:33:50I know he is mature for his age
00:33:52But I don't know about, like, a 41-year-old woman
00:33:56What would... if you would see him that mature
00:33:59I don't know
00:33:59I cannot...
00:34:00I love it
00:34:01That I don't know
00:34:01That is up to you
00:34:04You guys look happy
00:34:05You look happy together, mama
00:34:07Yeah
00:34:08I have been praying for God to reveal the person for Christopher
00:34:15I don't know if it's you or me
00:34:17I know
00:34:17Yeah, you know
00:34:18We're... yeah
00:34:19Time will talk
00:34:20God will let us know
00:34:24Alright, um
00:34:24I just wanna thank you again for coming out to support Chris
00:34:28But, um, I'm gonna head back to the apartment now
00:34:30So I'll give you guys some time to chat
00:34:33And...
00:34:34You're welcome
00:34:35Thank you
00:34:35But I'm gonna give you a hug before we leave
00:34:37Okay
00:34:39Fine, I'll come this way
00:34:40So lovely to meet you
00:34:42Thank you
00:34:43You're wonderful
00:34:44I love you
00:34:47So what do we do now?
00:34:49We're gonna talk
00:34:50Well, you look like you're very happy with her
00:34:55So...
00:34:56It's a lot
00:34:57This has been a lot
00:35:00I want you to see me
00:35:02For what I've really been dealing with
00:35:04And I want you to tell me if this is normal
00:35:07And if this is how a relationship is supposed to go
00:35:09Or I'm just trying to find
00:35:13Positive and something that's really been a lot on me
00:35:16Okay
00:35:17Everything was easy until we moved in together
00:35:21That's the truth
00:35:23First, you gotta communicate about every little thing that is bothering you
00:35:27You need to be yourself
00:35:28How do we get on the same routines?
00:35:30When she wants to spend every single moment with me
00:35:33And...
00:35:35I wanna go to the gym
00:35:36Or I wanna take a shower
00:35:38Well, you don't have to be together all the time, do you?
00:35:41Well, that's the thing that we were struggling with
00:35:43Her love language is quality time
00:35:45Of course
00:35:46But you still need your time alone
00:35:48Or don't go to the gym or whatever
00:35:50Right, but I wasn't getting that
00:35:51It's very difficult for you to live with somebody
00:35:54You've been on your own for a while
00:35:56And it's gonna be very difficult for you to have somebody live with you
00:35:59She's been independent for so long
00:36:02Yeah, absolutely
00:36:02She's 41 years old
00:36:03She's not a young lady
00:36:05I would be like
00:36:06It's hard for her too to have somebody in her home
00:36:09Absolutely
00:36:10Can you imagine?
00:36:11Absolutely
00:36:11It's not gonna be easy for her either
00:36:13Yeah
00:36:13Now, it doesn't bother you that she's 41 years old?
00:36:17But like, like, what about the children?
00:36:21Well, I'm ready to have kids
00:36:22You're ready to have kids?
00:36:23Is she ready to have kids right away?
00:36:25The thing is, you want your relationship to be strong before you have kids
00:36:31Kids change your whole life
00:36:32Yeah, exactly
00:36:33That's the other
00:36:34It's not about the age
00:36:35So you cannot just like
00:36:35Have kids right away
00:36:36No, we have to be super strong before we even think about kids
00:36:38That's true
00:36:39I know you wanna be ready, but you can't force it
00:36:41You really haven't had a long-term relationship yet
00:36:46You haven't
00:36:47Yeah
00:36:47So you really don't know
00:36:50I think I'm ready, I wanna be ready
00:36:52Is it the fact that I'm not ready?
00:36:54Is it the fact that I'm too immature?
00:36:56Or I'm too...
00:36:57I don't know
00:36:58You need to talk about all of it
00:37:01Especially now
00:37:02Especially if you're trying to make a decision
00:37:05That should you stay together or not
00:37:07It's just so hard
00:37:09And I don't know if it's supposed to be this hard
00:37:10Why is it so hard?
00:37:11It's not supposed to be that hard
00:37:13It's supposed to be easier
00:37:15Like, especially in a new relationship
00:37:17Like, the beginning should be much easier
00:37:20Why is it so hard?
00:37:23What's making it so hard?
00:37:25This whole thing has been a lot
00:37:30And...
00:37:32It's hard to live together with someone
00:37:35You have to compromise
00:37:37There's a lot of compromise when you live together with someone
00:37:41I'm free
00:37:44Christopher, are you happy or not?
00:37:48Because if you're not enjoying every moment with her
00:37:51Then you're hurting her
00:37:53I feel like it's killing you
00:37:56Like, it's really bothering you
00:37:57A lot
00:38:01If you cannot work these things through
00:38:04Then it's not gonna work
00:38:07I'm sorry to tell you this
00:38:22I just wanna say I'm like really proud of you for doing this
00:38:25Like, I know that this was like a scary thing for you
00:38:28Now I'm like...
00:38:30I'm a little nervous
00:38:31Yeah, I am too
00:38:37Hey
00:38:37Is that your mom and dad?
00:38:39Is that your mom and dad?
00:38:40Is that your mom and dad?
00:38:40Yeah
00:38:43Hey
00:38:44Good to see you
00:38:45Hey, babe
00:38:46How you doing?
00:38:47Hey, you all right?
00:38:49Good
00:38:49Hey, this is...
00:38:50You looking?
00:38:51Yeah, you guys look amazing
00:38:52Vanessa, these are my parents
00:38:54How are you? Vanessa?
00:38:55You been enjoying your day?
00:38:56I'm doing well, yes
00:38:57I'm happy now that you guys are here
00:38:59How are you doing?
00:39:01Good, good, everything's good
00:39:03How about you, man?
00:39:04You've had a couple of adventurous weeks, right?
00:39:06Yeah, yeah
00:39:06It's been, uh...
00:39:08It's been quite the road
00:39:09So have you enjoyed this whole experience?
00:39:12Yeah, it's been good
00:39:12How about your experience?
00:39:14I met her and I just weren't really expecting anything to, you know, come about
00:39:18But, uh, now we're kinda in this trial phase and figuring out the ins and outs of life
00:39:25And, as you know, I don't really date
00:39:28This is a great thing for him
00:39:29He said that he doesn't let people meet his family and friends
00:39:33So he was very nervous about me meeting you
00:39:36Which made me a little nervous, but you guys are delightful, so I'm glad that you're here
00:39:40Oh, go on
00:39:42So my question is...
00:39:44Yes, please ask
00:39:44Have you been here?
00:39:45Yeah
00:39:46That's a good question
00:39:46I mean, he's in Dallas
00:39:48You are in?
00:39:49Yes
00:39:49Ohio
00:39:51Have you talked about it?
00:39:53I mean, what are you guys gonna do?
00:39:55Yeah, moving forward, we're trying to figure out, like, what this looks like for us
00:39:59Yeah, I would, uh...
00:40:00Yeah
00:40:00Have you contemplated the challenges of a long-distance relationship?
00:40:05Yeah
00:40:05So I have not done a long-distance relationship, I know he has
00:40:09It's serious
00:40:10It's serious
00:40:11It's serious
00:40:11Like, we're still exploring it
00:40:13Sure
00:40:13So, like, just because we're meeting today, like, we're not gonna get married and have triplets tomorrow
00:40:17You know what I mean?
00:40:18So, like, I don't want this
00:40:19I hope not
00:40:20No, no, no
00:40:21But triplets would be cute, but no
00:40:23Just kidding
00:40:24We're just, like, navigating this right now, you know?
00:40:26Like, just because we're just trying to figure this out, you know?
00:40:31And trying to get some clarity on it
00:40:33Yeah
00:40:34It's a complicated thing, and relationships are a complicated thing
00:40:37There's always challenges, you know?
00:40:39Yes
00:40:39Right, and you know, again, you're his age, you know this
00:40:44Well, actually, we're not the same age
00:40:46But thank you for thinking that
00:40:48Can I ask how old I am?
00:40:50Yeah, how old do you think I am?
00:40:52Oh, boy
00:40:53It's okay, you aren't
00:40:53I'm really that great
00:40:54Mom already knows
00:40:56Mom's already on to it
00:40:57Mom's already on to it
00:40:59Mom's already on to it
00:41:02I'm a little bit older than him
00:41:06And that was a concern for him
00:41:10Yeah
00:41:11So...
00:41:14I'm 20 years older than Logan
00:41:16Really?
00:41:17See, I did not put you there
00:41:19I wouldn't have guessed
00:41:20Thank you, thank you
00:41:22I wouldn't have guessed that
00:41:23Thank you
00:41:23So...
00:41:24So, not only do we have the distance challenge, but we have an age gap challenge
00:41:30How do you feel about that?
00:41:33I don't know
00:41:35Honestly
00:41:36I mean, my friends are all starting to have grandkids
00:41:42I don't know, I mean, like, I'm not against that, but that would be his decision
00:41:46Right, I mean, I've told you, and I've told you guys recently, I don't know if I want to have
00:41:50kids, then I'm somewhere on this age
00:41:52I think my mom, I think deep down, I think she does want grandkids
00:41:55The age gap with Vanessa challenges that
00:41:59You know, at the end of the day, I know it's my journey and my life, but do I want
00:42:05those things long-term that I thought I used to want?
00:42:07How old is she gonna be? You know, when I, in 20 years from now, how old am I gonna
00:42:12be?
00:42:14It's scary to think about
00:42:17Regardless of the distance, regardless of our age, like, I know, like, he comes from a good foundation
00:42:29I'm gonna go to the restroom real quick
00:42:30Okay
00:42:31I'll be right back
00:42:33It's good to see you guys
00:42:34So
00:42:36Nice, nice woman
00:42:37Yeah, yeah
00:42:38So when, when you, uh, you tell me, you tell me where you're at
00:42:45I really, you know, we have a, we have a really strong connection, you know?
00:42:50Obviously, yeah, people see that
00:42:51But, like, she's also older and mature where she, she knows when she sees herself doing something and talks about
00:42:59it
00:42:59And I'm still discovering
00:43:01Right, right, she's, she's a little more self-aware
00:43:04100%, yeah
00:43:05Yeah
00:43:06Now, here's the other side of that
00:43:08Hit me
00:43:10If you're gonna do the kid thing, that's, that's...
00:43:12Yeah, that's gonna be...
00:43:13Post-haste
00:43:15Yeah
00:43:16And that's something you need to think about
00:43:19You know, I've told you guys, I'm in a place where I, you know, I don't know if I wanna
00:43:24have kids
00:43:24I thought you wanted four
00:43:26There was a time when you said you wanted four or five
00:43:29There was, there was a time, but, you know, lately
00:43:31Listen, you say that, but you've always said, I would like to be a dad
00:43:36Listen, I ain't gonna bullshit, you'd be a pretty good dad
00:43:40You're pretty level-headed, you're pretty smart, and I don't wanna stroke you here, but, you know, you're, you're not
00:43:45a bad guy
00:43:45Yeah
00:43:47Yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't know, like, I haven't thought that far ahead, you know, I just
00:43:53Right
00:43:53If you're moving forward with this woman, then it's time to start thinking a little bit ahead
00:43:58Right
00:43:58You know, she's not dilly-dallying
00:44:00Right, right, right, right
00:44:01But if there's something really there, and you do have a connection, I guess it becomes how strong is that
00:44:08connection
00:44:08Right
00:44:11Her being matured, you know, and Logan, I mean, she'll have to have a lot of patience
00:44:18But he's getting to the age where he's starting to, you know, this is when men start to get their
00:44:23shit together
00:44:24It's not an impossible situation
00:44:26Right
00:44:27It's just, it is what it is
00:44:28Right
00:44:28He's our only son
00:44:31We are a small family, basically
00:44:35Um, it would be nice to have, yeah, we have grandkids
00:44:39But we trust Logan
00:44:41Yeah, we're not running his life at this point in time
00:44:44Exactly
00:44:45We have a serious connection, and I don't know what the fuck, what I'm gonna do
00:44:51Well, you know, we love you, no matter what, you know that
00:44:54If it's meant to be, it will happen, believe me
00:44:59You know, seeing my parents and Vanessa together, I'm still in shock, I still don't know how to process this
00:45:06I mean, there's this woman that I'm falling for that, you know, when it's on, it's like, we connect so
00:45:12well
00:45:12But then, you know, I'm constantly being reminded of all these factors that just are trying to bring this down
00:45:20So it makes us frickin' hard
00:45:32Home sweet home
00:45:34What a day
00:45:35What a day, what a day
00:45:38Oh
00:45:38Oh
00:45:42I'm exhausted
00:45:44Are ya?
00:45:45Mm-hmm
00:45:47Are you relieved, like, it's over, like
00:45:51Yeah, I'm definitely relieved it's over
00:45:53I feel like even, like, seeing our friends together, like, um, it's not, like, the weirdest thing
00:45:59Like, might be, like, an age gap, your friends have kids, mine don't, like, mine are younger, like, whatever
00:46:04But it's like, I feel like those are people that could interact normally, and it, like, wouldn't be weird, do
00:46:09you know what I mean?
00:46:09Yeah
00:46:09No, I would tear it up with them, I feel like we would have a real fun night out together
00:46:13Mm-hmm
00:46:14Yeah
00:46:14You know?
00:46:15I could show Nina a thing or two
00:46:17Tearing up
00:46:17Yeah
00:46:18Like, she had the headband ready, she was ready to break a sweat today and go in on me
00:46:22Yeah
00:46:23Is that
00:46:23Mm-hmm
00:46:25No, she's always, she's always ready to fight
00:46:27Do they like me? Do they hate me?
00:46:30I would say hate is a strong word
00:46:31Mm-hmm
00:46:32Yeah, um, but I would say that they are really real with me and, um, they asked me some hard
00:46:40-hitting questions that I think were important to bring to light before we move forward
00:46:47Oh, yeah, like what?
00:46:49I mean, they definitely were, like, thrown off by the kids thing
00:46:53They were like, Libby, you're 22, I don't think you're ready to be a stepmom, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
00:47:00And so to that point, I think if you kind of look at it for what it is, it sounds
00:47:06like, um, a little bit, um, nuts
00:47:11No, it's a lot to unpack, like, you know, trying to catch them up to speed of, like, what we've
00:47:17actually been doing
00:47:18Yeah, but you did good, you did great
00:47:20Yeah
00:47:21Yeah, no, your friends, your friends seem...
00:47:23I mean, if I, those are, like, my real guy friends
00:47:27And if I'm happy, they're happy for me
00:47:29Will they ask questions along the way? Like, sure, you know, like, you know, I can see the look in
00:47:34Amir's face
00:47:34Like, I know what he's about to ask, and I'm like, I know what you're gonna say, I know what
00:47:38your concerns are
00:47:39What, what did he say? What was his concerns?
00:47:41No, it's just like, you know, do you, what happens after this, you know, with the girls and the long
00:47:49distance and all of that
00:47:50Like, how does, how do the logistics work? And I'm like, you know, those are things that we're still sorting
00:47:55through
00:47:55I don't know that we're going to, like, win everyone over with our relationship the first meeting
00:48:02It's definitely gonna take time and one conversation
00:48:05I think it went as good as it could for, you know, that, for the first time
00:48:14I definitely just in my feels tonight, I just
00:48:18You're always in your feels
00:48:19I know, I've definitely been in my feels a little bit
00:48:21I think it's just because to have our friends be a little bit of a piece of this experience
00:48:28I just think, you know, like, it means a lot
00:48:30Like, I wouldn't, I wouldn't be doing this if it wasn't for Amir
00:48:35I officiated their wedding
00:48:37So, like, you know, having him there today felt like maybe that was the start of him being a part
00:48:44of, you know, my forever love story
00:48:48I'm very, very thankful and lucky
00:48:51And I feel very blessed tonight
00:48:53My heart is definitely full
00:48:55I'll probably sleep tonight, finally
00:48:59I'll sleep good tonight
00:49:01No, you don't want to sleep
00:49:02Woosah
00:49:03Yeah, no more woosah
00:49:11Your parents are so cool
00:49:13So true
00:49:16I feel like you're going to be so crazy
00:49:18Nah
00:49:19We're good
00:49:19We did that yesterday
00:49:21With the pillows
00:49:22Oh, we, uh, we're sleeping together in the sun
00:49:25Yeah, I forgive you
00:49:26You forgive me?
00:49:26I forgive you
00:49:27I had a good day?
00:49:28Yeah, it was pretty good
00:49:29You need the parents?
00:49:30Yeah, it was okay
00:49:31Yeah?
00:49:32It was good
00:49:33It was better than I thought
00:49:59Hey
00:50:00What's going on?
00:50:02What are you doing?
00:50:04Nothing
00:50:04Just cleaning and reading
00:50:06How was it?
00:50:07Incredible to see my mom and have her out here
00:50:09And I think she was trying to get to the bottom of, like, how, uh, you know, how this dynamic
00:50:15would work
00:50:15Us moving in
00:50:16Where would we move in?
00:50:18Where would we move in?
00:50:19Relocating
00:50:19Um
00:50:22To be honest, I think that after talking with my mom
00:50:26I've never been at a point in my life where I'm so unsure
00:50:31To taking the next step, you know, past this commitment day, whatever it's gonna be
00:50:38We've built this connection that it means so much to me that it's like I'm trying to do right by
00:50:43you as best as I can
00:50:46So, I see you, like, not yourself completely
00:50:51And I'm wondering what's going on
00:50:54I don't know, I just say it just sucks that we just can never just live in a happy moment
00:50:59You know what I'm saying?
00:51:00Like, we had a happy moment with your mom
00:51:01You got to see her
00:51:03We had a good time
00:51:04And then it's like, it got masked by your thoughts of thinking about what's gonna happen in the future
00:51:10You don't know if you're ready for something to commit to
00:51:12Well, I don't think that's fair
00:51:13I've been struggling putting my thoughts into words
00:51:18And
00:51:20I can't stop saying this enough how much I really care about this
00:51:24If you're so unsure, but you want to commit
00:51:28Or like, I don't do the process, I guess what we call it, right?
00:51:31I just don't
00:51:34I don't know how those work two and two
00:51:36It's like, you're so unsure about me, but you like me
00:51:38I'm not unsure about
00:51:39I don't know
00:51:39I'm not
00:51:40What I'm unsure about is the next step
00:51:42And I'm trying not to think about the next step
00:51:44I'm trying to live in the moment
00:51:45I'm trying to take it day by day
00:51:46That's what I'm saying
00:51:48It's interesting to me
00:51:49I don't know, I thought we were in a cool space
00:51:52But it's like, every time we get to a good space, we're not
00:51:56I'm trying to explain how I feel
00:51:58I just don't know how to
00:51:59Without saying something that's going to maybe offend you
00:52:01Or like start an argument
00:52:02I don't know
00:52:03I don't want to argue with you
00:52:04Just tell me how you feel
00:52:05Take it, I understand
00:52:07I feel like I'm walking on eggshells
00:52:08I feel like anything I might say
00:52:10Like might cause an issue or a problem
00:52:12I don't want you to feel that way
00:52:13I never want you to feel pressured by me
00:52:15That you have to even date me
00:52:17I like you
00:52:19I enjoy your company
00:52:21Remember
00:52:22We literally
00:52:23We started out super fun, babe
00:52:25You know
00:52:26And I know we haven't
00:52:28And I
00:52:28I miss it
00:52:29I know you miss it
00:52:30And I just
00:52:31But I want us
00:52:32I mean if we can
00:52:33Get there
00:52:34I don't know
00:52:45Um
00:52:46But it's just
00:52:49I just want you to just
00:52:51Give me a chance
00:52:53I don't
00:52:55Like
00:52:56I want you to actually just
00:52:59I want you to be able to relax
00:53:01I want you to be you
00:53:03I just
00:53:04I'm struggling
00:53:05Because I
00:53:05I
00:53:07Really care about this
00:53:09I really care about you
00:53:11And I'm just exhausted
00:53:13And I'm overwhelmed
00:53:14Because I feel like I can't
00:53:15Be myself with you
00:53:17Because I feel like I can't
00:53:19Because I feel like you can't understand
00:53:20When I
00:53:21When I start talking
00:53:22You don't even hear the emotion
00:53:23Of what I'm talking about
00:53:24Like you
00:53:25You don't
00:53:26Hear what I'm actually trying to say
00:53:27Like I'm thinking
00:53:28Everything that I'm saying
00:53:29And thinking is with us in mind
00:53:30You know
00:53:31And I think that you're taking it
00:53:32Like all I'm thinking about
00:53:33Is myself
00:53:34And that's the opposite
00:53:35Of what I'm thinking
00:53:35I'm putting myself last
00:53:37That's what I'm trying to do
00:53:38At least
00:53:39Okay
00:53:41I understand
00:53:43Okay
00:53:44It's um
00:53:47I'm
00:53:48I'm
00:53:48I'm just exhausted
00:53:49I
00:53:50I
00:53:51I'm like mentally exhausted
00:53:55I'm trying
00:53:56My best to
00:53:59Explain myself
00:54:05Maybe I'm not doing the best job
00:54:16What can I say by you?
00:54:19Maybe I'm not as mature or whatever as I thought
00:54:25But I'm trying to make this work and I'm trying to
00:54:32I don't
00:54:34I really care about you
00:54:35And I care about us
00:54:37That's not why I'm unsure
00:54:39I'm unsure
00:54:39Because I want
00:54:40Because I think about the future a lot
00:54:45I'm trying
00:54:48I'm overwhelmed
00:54:51I'm sorry
00:54:55I don't know what to do
00:55:08I'm sorry
00:55:10I want to be sorry
00:55:11But I don't
00:55:12Like I just
00:55:13I don't wanna
00:55:13I don't want you to ever feel like I'm pressuring you
00:55:15I just want us to take it one day at a time
00:55:18And we'll figure it out
00:55:20Okay?
00:55:23Yeah, I'm sorry
00:55:40I have to really hold it tight
00:55:43Beauty is pain
00:55:52Yeah
00:55:54Your turn
00:55:55My turn?
00:55:56I'm kidding, you don't wanna do that
00:56:03The bathroom
00:56:04This has been fully taken over
00:56:06Oops!
00:56:07I'll clean it up
00:56:08It's not a joint bathroom anymore
00:56:10It's just Libby's room
00:56:12Do you have anything to say about that?
00:56:14Um
00:56:15What do you need to do your makeup in here?
00:56:17I mean
00:56:18I don't even think I've been allowed to step foot in here
00:56:20You could step foot
00:56:22Mm-hmm
00:56:31It's nice when you have a hair stylist to take care of you
00:56:35Do you do beard hair a lot?
00:56:37Yes, I do beards a lot in my salon actually
00:56:40We gotta keep it tight
00:56:42Um, beards for men are like makeup for women
00:56:46You gotta keep it looking good
00:56:48Thank you
00:56:49Thank you
00:57:05Hi!
00:57:06How are ya?
00:57:07Yeah, I like a dress
00:57:08You look great
00:57:09Thanks
00:57:12So, tell me, did you end up going to the baseball game last night?
00:57:16Yeah, it was fun
00:57:16I'm glad and good to see you again
00:57:18Yeah, I figured you'd do something
00:57:20Yeah
00:57:20What did Mom say after yesterday?
00:57:24Um, okay, so both Mom and I were concerned
00:57:28that she didn't volunteer the information to us
00:57:32that she had children
00:57:33Mm-hmm
00:57:34And I think that's a big deal for us
00:57:37So my next biggest concern
00:57:39which is if you thought about what your life would look like day to day
00:57:42Uh-huh
00:57:42Dating a woman who has two children
00:57:45Three
00:57:45It wouldn't be three children
00:57:47Yeah
00:57:48Okay, see I didn't even know
00:57:49Why the hesitancy in sharing that with us
00:57:53Oh
00:57:53You know her age
00:57:54And you know about her children
00:57:56How old is she?
00:57:58She's 54
00:58:00She's 54, okay
00:58:01Okay
00:58:02Okay
00:58:03Her kids are
00:58:05much closer to my age than her age
00:58:12The one son is
00:58:14two years older than me
00:58:18Okay
00:58:19That's probably her bombshell
00:58:24I just want to make sure that
00:58:26I feel like you're still young
00:58:27Mm-hmm
00:58:28And I feel like you still have a lot of opportunities
00:58:31That you need to experience in life
00:58:33And especially given her age
00:58:35I want you to seriously think about
00:58:38What your life would look like with her
00:58:40As opposed to maybe someone who is not married
00:58:43Or hasn't been married before
00:58:44Or someone who doesn't have children
00:58:46Mm-hmm
00:58:47Hearing it from your sister
00:58:48Hearing it from someone you really care about
00:58:50I probably have a little more questions for myself
00:58:54Is this for real?
00:58:56In real life
00:58:57Is this just a bubble thing?
00:59:00Gotta look myself in the mirror
00:59:01And make sure that I'm being completely honest with myself
00:59:04And make sure I'm being completely honest with Teresa
00:59:08And make sure that we're making the right decision
00:59:10I hear your voice in the darkness
00:59:13And I see your face
00:59:16And you're not alone
00:59:17Got me high in the back of your mind
00:59:20And I don't think I'll make it out alive
00:59:24I'm by your side when you call me
00:59:27Cause I just can't be
00:59:29And you're not alone
00:59:31Got me high in the back of your mind
00:59:34And I don't think I'll make it out alive
00:59:38Ooh
00:59:46You're not alone
00:59:50I don't think I'll make it out alive
00:59:55I hear your voice in the darkness
00:59:57I hear your voice in the darkness
01:00:01And I don't think I'll make it out alive
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