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00:00:15I really don't know if you're ready for this one.
00:00:17You ready?
00:00:21I'm 16.
00:00:22Yeah.
00:00:26There you have it.
00:00:29You might want to think about that one for a second.
00:00:32Oh, my gosh.
00:00:35Yes, you might want to think about that one.
00:00:36He looks so young.
00:00:40What?
00:00:41Does it affect you?
00:00:47It's very shocking.
00:00:50I literally thought you were, like, oldest, like, 47 or something.
00:00:56Yeah.
00:00:57Wow.
00:00:58Does it scare you?
00:01:01No.
00:01:02I feel like, if I'm being really honest, like, maybe I was meant to come here to meet someone
00:01:10like you.
00:01:12I honestly haven't felt like this with anyone before.
00:01:16I love that.
00:01:17Can I just kiss you?
00:01:18Yes, baby.
00:01:24You're so handsome.
00:01:26You're beautiful.
00:01:30Damn.
00:01:32Thanks, man.
00:01:33Well, how do you feel now, knowing each other's ages?
00:01:37I'm shocked.
00:01:38Mm-hmm.
00:01:39But it doesn't mean anything.
00:01:41It's even more, it shows what I've always thought.
00:01:44Mm-hmm.
00:01:45You know what I mean?
00:01:46Mm-hmm.
00:01:46You are a dope human being to me.
00:01:49Mm-hmm.
00:01:49You know?
00:01:50I'm going to be in your life.
00:01:51That's for sure.
00:01:51I know that.
00:01:52Mm-hmm.
00:01:53You're so beautiful.
00:01:53Let me get on.
00:01:55Come on.
00:01:56That's my baby.
00:01:57Mm-hmm.
00:01:58That's it.
00:01:59Mm-hmm.
00:02:04We're going to do this?
00:02:05Mm-hmm.
00:02:06We're going to show them what a real connection is?
00:02:07Mm-hmm.
00:02:08All right.
00:02:10Come on.
00:02:11I want to fall with you.
00:02:1727, wow.
00:02:20A lot of different thoughts.
00:02:22The touch of your body.
00:02:26And all my senses ignite.
00:02:29I've been excited about a relationship in a while.
00:02:31I've been excited about getting to know someone like this in a while.
00:02:34It's nice.
00:02:35It's really nice.
00:02:38I was very worried about telling her my age.
00:02:41And I was ready for her to say, hey, that don't work for me.
00:02:45And if it didn't, I understood that.
00:02:48I'm sure her family and my family are going to be like, what the hell is going on?
00:02:52But I don't care what no one thinks.
00:02:54Like, we have a connection.
00:02:55So it is what it is.
00:02:57Connection is connection.
00:02:58Very.
00:02:59I think you may be the one, but I haven't told you yet.
00:03:05I am.
00:03:07I'm falling in love with him.
00:03:11That's just so scary to say.
00:03:14He's 60.
00:03:17Oh, my gosh.
00:03:19I think it's like 30, 40, 50.
00:03:22No.
00:03:2440, 50, 60.
00:03:26Yeah, 33.
00:03:27He's 33 years older than me.
00:03:34Oh, my Lanta.
00:03:37Wow.
00:03:38Jorge's literally the same age as my parents.
00:03:43Oh, my gosh.
00:03:48When I explain this to my family, they won't understand.
00:03:52But I think over time, as they see how serious I am about him and how well he treats me,
00:03:59they'll grow to love him.
00:04:00Keep it forward.
00:04:15Oh, my gosh.
00:04:29I want to fall.
00:04:32Oh, my God.
00:04:33Okay, okay, okay, okay.
00:04:34First game, we're going to figure this out.
00:04:35Okay, I'm good. I'm good for it.
00:04:39Bro.
00:04:40You got it. You got it.
00:04:41I'm not good for it.
00:04:42Okay. Back up a little bit.
00:04:45Oh, my God.
00:04:48This is for elderly people.
00:04:49I said anybody can play this game.
00:04:53The more time that I'm spending with Derek,
00:04:54I just know that this is who I want to spend my time with here.
00:04:58We have similar interests.
00:04:59We have similar interests.
00:05:00We have similar life goals.
00:05:01And, I mean, he's, like, a model.
00:05:04He's gorgeous.
00:05:05There's no question about that.
00:05:07He is the total package from what I've seen so far.
00:05:15With Pfeiffer, the connection's been so genuine and authentic.
00:05:20So I feel now Pfeiffer needs to know about my kids
00:05:22because I see the potential.
00:05:24So she needs to know the most important part of my life now
00:05:27because we would actually be merging it together.
00:05:31I'm so happy that you picked me to be your devil's partner.
00:05:34Yeah.
00:05:35Yeah.
00:05:35I feel like I've been having a good time with you.
00:05:38We've been having a good time.
00:05:38We have a good connection.
00:05:39I agree.
00:05:40And I did want to talk to you because we haven't really talked about, like, my personal life.
00:05:44Right.
00:05:45Up to this point, just been getting to know you.
00:05:47So I have two boys.
00:05:48Okay.
00:05:50Um, so I'm on daddy mode.
00:05:52Okay.
00:05:53You know, a lot.
00:05:53Like, that's extremely important to me.
00:05:56So, obviously, dating me, that's a part of it.
00:05:59Right.
00:05:59You know, if you're willing to accept that.
00:06:01Do you want to have more kids?
00:06:03Absolutely.
00:06:03Because that's big for me.
00:06:04Like, I know I want kids.
00:06:06Yeah, no, completely.
00:06:07Okay.
00:06:07Okay, okay.
00:06:08Because that was the one thing I was like, it is a deal breaker.
00:06:10Like, I, like, want kids, 100%.
00:06:13Yeah, absolutely.
00:06:13Um, but yeah, I mean, I think that's, I think that's great.
00:06:16Yeah.
00:06:16I, like, don't see any reason why that would be an issue.
00:06:19Yeah.
00:06:19It's amazing.
00:06:21No, I think that's great.
00:06:22I thought that Derek was probably in his mid-30s before finding out that he had children.
00:06:27Now, I don't know.
00:06:28He could still be in his mid-30s.
00:06:30People can have kids early when they're young.
00:06:32People can have kids late.
00:06:33I don't care.
00:06:34At the end of the day, what matters is that we have this connection.
00:06:37And every time I see him, I mean, it just gets better.
00:06:39How is that, like, like, I guess, being a parent?
00:06:45It definitely changes you.
00:06:46Right, I'm sure.
00:06:47And everyone, like, says that, but until you have it, like, so when you don't have them,
00:06:52it's like, damn, I miss my kids.
00:06:55My parents got divorced when I was, like, a baby, like, very young.
00:06:59And she was, like, very career focused, which is, like, totally fine.
00:07:03But I grew up with just my dad.
00:07:05It was rough at times just because I'm an only child growing up just with my dad.
00:07:10Um, so it's like, yeah, while it does suck, it kind of taught me, like, I know what I value.
00:07:15Yeah.
00:07:16And, like, I know I want to be mom, so.
00:07:18Absolutely.
00:07:19Yeah.
00:07:19I grew up with my dad, too, so.
00:07:20Okay.
00:07:21Yeah, so he was on it, like, you know, like military.
00:07:24It's tough!
00:07:26So.
00:07:26Strict dads are tough.
00:07:27Yeah.
00:07:27A lot of similar.
00:07:29Everything that I was nervous about is out, knowing that we're on the same page, and I just think she
00:07:35truly is potentially a life partner.
00:07:49Tell me something sweet.
00:07:51Why do you like me?
00:07:53I felt like from the moment we saw each other, we didn't have to say anything.
00:07:57That's so true.
00:07:58And you know what I'm saying, because it is real.
00:08:00It's actually real.
00:08:01I mean, we were smiling at each other from 30 feet away.
00:08:07I like Chris a lot.
00:08:09Um, he has a lot of the qualities that I've been looking for in a partner, in a man, or
00:08:13a husband.
00:08:14I can tell that Chris is younger, but I don't know if he knows how much younger, if that makes
00:08:20sense.
00:08:21He doesn't know my age.
00:08:22Nobody does.
00:08:24I don't, I don't even know if he thinks about it, like, how much older I could be than him.
00:08:30That's very scary.
00:08:33What if he does find out when my real age and I'm not as young as he thinks I am?
00:08:36Like, will he still like me?
00:08:38You know?
00:08:41Wait, so who was the last person you massaged?
00:08:45Well, honestly, this is just me getting massages and, like, remembering what feels good and trying to repeat it.
00:08:50I don't know if it feels good yet, but I guess...
00:08:52No, it does. You're doing a good job.
00:08:56I hope she didn't catch that I was trying to avoid that question.
00:09:01Obviously, in that moment, I wasn't about to tell her that a few days before I was in the spa
00:09:06getting Vanessa a massage.
00:09:09Me and Vanessa got a little bit intimate.
00:09:11Yes, we kissed.
00:09:12So, I was like, yo, there's no way she's asking me this right now.
00:09:17Thanks.
00:09:25I like to climb on things.
00:09:29Ooh, that's crazy.
00:09:31Romeo, Romeo!
00:09:33We're out there, Romeo.
00:09:34Is this supposed to be the opposite way?
00:09:36Like, I think you're supposed to be up here with your hair.
00:09:38We had that backwards.
00:09:40Yeah.
00:09:40The typical age range that I date are women that are probably around 20...
00:09:46I would say 28 to 33, 34.
00:09:49I've dated older, but it's never been something serious.
00:09:53So, now, looking at something that's serious with Vanessa, you know, that's something that is intriguing.
00:10:06All right, that was fine.
00:10:07All right, good job.
00:10:08Okay.
00:10:14Hello, boys. How's it going?
00:10:16Good.
00:10:16It's going, buddy.
00:10:18I saw you hanging out with Jolene a little bit.
00:10:21What's the vibe for you guys right now, do you think?
00:10:23Oh, man, it just increased.
00:10:25Like, everything's good, and it just, like, amplified.
00:10:29We know what we have, and the connection is just, like...
00:10:33It's good.
00:10:34She's a good vibe.
00:10:35Do you think she's older than you or younger than you?
00:10:37I think she's older than me.
00:10:39High 30s, early 40s, I don't know.
00:10:41But also, you can't tell with her, you know?
00:10:43She's got great skin.
00:10:44Yeah.
00:10:45Girls think I'm just a flirt,
00:10:47and they're like, oh, look at this guy.
00:10:49He's good-looking.
00:10:49He's flirty.
00:10:50Oh, he's just an F-boy, you know?
00:10:52It's, like, tossed up a flag for some girls in the past.
00:10:56I don't like that because the person I think I am
00:10:59in a relationship is loyal, trustworthy.
00:11:02I'm always gonna be in my partner's corner,
00:11:05so I'm trying to find an awesome partner to do life with
00:11:09because that's what it's about.
00:11:11I think about, like, the promise room and all that,
00:11:13and I'm like, I'm the kind of guy who's, like, lover boy.
00:11:16I love what I see.
00:11:17I can totally see that.
00:11:18I want it.
00:11:18Let's go.
00:11:19I can totally see that.
00:11:20And I was ready to go yesterday.
00:11:31I've been ready to go to the promise room with Jolene
00:11:34since the first time I set my eyes on her.
00:11:36Hey.
00:11:37Hi, I'm Jolene.
00:11:38West.
00:11:39West, which is corny and cheesy, but it's true.
00:11:43I'm a pretty easygoing guy,
00:11:45and I've lived with a woman before that I've dated,
00:11:48so I understand, like, the do's and don'ts.
00:11:51I'll pull this out for you.
00:11:53So sweet.
00:11:56How's your bell?
00:11:57Does that work?
00:11:59Oh, that's how it goes.
00:12:01I didn't know you.
00:12:01You don't have a bell on your bike?
00:12:03I was doing it wrong.
00:12:03Oh.
00:12:04I feel it every time.
00:12:07I think we're totally on the same page with what we want
00:12:09and what we want to do,
00:12:10and I just want to spend more time with her.
00:12:13That's kind of what makes me feel good,
00:12:14and that's where I want to be.
00:12:22I came here to find love in an ageless environment,
00:12:28mostly to get rid of the parameters I put around dating
00:12:31and to focus on getting to know the person,
00:12:35but it does kind of mess with me.
00:12:37When I make a commitment,
00:12:39I want to make sure that it feels right,
00:12:41and the next phase for Wes and I would mean
00:12:44that we would have to live together,
00:12:46wake up together.
00:12:48So there's a lot of things for me to think about.
00:13:07Looking beautiful.
00:13:08Oh, my goodness.
00:13:10I feel it every time.
00:13:15Thanks for joining me.
00:13:16Yeah, thanks for inviting me.
00:13:19Um, I kind of think it's undeniable,
00:13:21the connection we had in the beginning,
00:13:23like pretty much right when I sat down with you
00:13:25and looked at you.
00:13:27I kind of wanted to say that I was just so dead set on you
00:13:30from the beginning.
00:13:31I was just like so into your vibe and everything
00:13:35and how you look and all of that, how you carry yourself,
00:13:38that I didn't really see any of the girls as an option.
00:13:42I think you're such a young spiritual heart and soul
00:13:45that I want to continue this journey with you.
00:13:49I definitely want to let you know that I care a lot about you,
00:13:53that I want to...
00:13:54I care about you, too.
00:13:55Yeah.
00:13:57I just feel like our time together has been so good
00:14:00and it's only getting better and it can only be so great
00:14:03moving forward.
00:14:05Mm-hmm.
00:14:06So I was wondering if you wanted to, like, accept the promise
00:14:09and, um, you know, continue on with me in this journey.
00:14:21I think that our connection was really...
00:14:23It is really strong, but...
00:14:30No, I'm not ready to, like, make the commitment
00:14:33of moving in and living together right now.
00:14:41I think that you're much younger than me,
00:14:43and that shouldn't matter,
00:14:44but I think that you're much younger than me
00:14:46and that maybe you have some growing to do
00:14:50for us to, like, work on, like,
00:14:53taking that next step in a relationship.
00:14:57Moving in together.
00:14:59Do I have a chance to persuade you right now
00:15:01or is that your decision?
00:15:03What's your persuasion?
00:15:06I think that the time we've spent together
00:15:09is just so easy and it flows...
00:15:12Yeah.
00:15:12...that I felt moving in with each other
00:15:14would just continue that, so...
00:15:16I agree. I do think...
00:15:17It wouldn't have to be serious.
00:15:18Well, it is serious, though.
00:15:20See, that's... that's what I mean.
00:15:22Like, as far as, you know, maybe growing
00:15:26and understanding that that next step
00:15:29is not just for fun, you know?
00:15:34Um...
00:15:34Okay, I'll put this back down, then.
00:15:36You have pieces of you that are so mature,
00:15:39but I just think that we shouldn't make that commitment
00:15:43right now.
00:15:46I am mature. I mean, I am, you know, serious.
00:15:49How old are you?
00:15:52I'm 30.
00:15:54Oh.
00:15:55So I knew you...
00:15:56I mean, you're...
00:15:56You might think that I was, like, 25 or something.
00:15:59Yeah, exactly.
00:15:59I know. I get that.
00:16:01But that's...
00:16:02As I said before, I'm a little older than you thought.
00:16:04A little.
00:16:07Yeah.
00:16:09Okay, so...
00:16:09Are you gonna tell me how old you are?
00:16:11Or are you gonna keep that a secret?
00:16:12Oh, yeah.
00:16:13So I'm 48.
00:16:16Did you guess that?
00:16:18How old would I...
00:16:19I never...
00:16:22I can't really believe that, either.
00:16:27I think you say 48, but I...
00:16:30I barely see 38, you know?
00:16:32It's, like, insane.
00:16:35What?!
00:16:35Yeah.
00:16:36No.
00:16:36It's okay.
00:16:37Aw, come here.
00:16:40Thanks for meeting me here.
00:16:42I'm glad you didn't just say, like,
00:16:43no, you didn't want to do it, so...
00:16:45Oh, no. Of course. Of course I wanted to.
00:16:47Appreciate it.
00:16:48Bet you never saw the end
00:16:51The prowess to dance, be friends
00:16:54But my life's not better
00:16:58When we're too careless
00:17:00Or let you go
00:17:03It's disappointing to hear her say
00:17:06she's looking for a long-term partner
00:17:07and to see where I'm at right now
00:17:10with a rejection.
00:17:13I, like, made myself really vulnerable to this
00:17:15And, uh...
00:17:17I feel like she just didn't take me seriously enough
00:17:20and broke up with me
00:17:22before we even started
00:17:24Something I learned from this
00:17:26The age is a thing, but it's not everything for me
00:17:33In making the decision not to move forward
00:17:36I just feel bad that, you know, I'm letting him down
00:17:40But I think he has to think of the bigger picture
00:17:43I'm so much older than him
00:17:45I've been married, divorced, I have two kids
00:17:48And I know that marriage
00:17:50Isn't always going to be fun
00:17:55I'm looking for someone that isn't only
00:17:58Just trying to have, like, good times
00:18:02I want someone in it for the long haul
00:18:04And ultimately, I think age can be a parameter
00:18:08that you let go of
00:18:09If there are life experiences
00:18:11that both people have gone through
00:18:14that kind of complement each other
00:18:23It's definitely a dent in the armor
00:18:25But as we learned, you know, she's 18 years older than me
00:18:29So she has lived a lot more life than I have
00:18:39It is a shocker, it is crazy
00:18:46But hey, what am I going to do about it, you know?
00:18:48Can't be wild, don't rearrange
00:18:52We can't undo the pain
00:18:54And you won't ever change
00:18:59No
00:19:06So in your case, how's the connection?
00:19:08With Fiverr?
00:19:09Yeah
00:19:09It's good
00:19:10Like, I trust it, you know what I mean?
00:19:11I think it's great
00:19:13Like, I've opened up about things that are dear to me
00:19:16that I wouldn't share with someone
00:19:18that I'm just, you know, dating
00:19:20or I'm just hanging out with
00:19:22Like, these are things that are dear to me
00:19:24This is who I am as a person
00:19:26If you can accept those things, then we can continue forward
00:19:29Getting into the promise room
00:19:31Yeah
00:19:31Like, you want to make sure
00:19:32before you even get there
00:19:33I've laid it on the line
00:19:34Mm-hmm
00:19:35You know what I mean?
00:19:35You don't want to go in there
00:19:37and, like, say, hey, let's go live together
00:19:39But you really don't even know who I truly am
00:19:42You know what I mean?
00:19:42So you feel like you've laid it on the line completely already?
00:19:44Yeah, yeah, like who I am
00:19:45and, you know what I mean, my family, my boys
00:19:47Nice
00:19:48Like, that's the closest thing to me, so
00:19:50100%
00:19:50Yeah
00:19:51So you like Leah?
00:19:52I do like Leah
00:19:53You feel comfortable going in there with her?
00:19:55That's where I'm at
00:19:56Do I feel comfortable going in there with her?
00:19:59Ooh
00:19:59Yeah
00:19:59I feel like I am
00:20:01But why am I being so hesitant?
00:20:03That's what's scaring me, right?
00:20:05If you go through that process, right?
00:20:07Yeah
00:20:07Age is disclosed, all of that
00:20:08You move in with somebody
00:20:09Then, damn, you got something
00:20:11Yeah
00:20:11You can look at it like, okay, it's kind of like
00:20:12we've been dating for, like, a year
00:20:13A thousand percent
00:20:14A thousand percent
00:20:15If we made it through this whole process
00:20:16You know what I mean?
00:20:18I'm very proud of myself
00:20:20for allowing myself
00:20:22to be vulnerable to someone else
00:20:24because my parents' relationship definitely
00:20:27has had a lasting effect on me
00:20:29They actually split
00:20:31when my mom was eight months pregnant with me
00:20:34Essentially the only room we've been in together
00:20:36is a courtroom
00:20:37I would say
00:20:39I have the most amazing relationship with my mom now
00:20:42You know, and that's been great
00:20:45With that being said
00:20:48For me
00:20:58Give me a second
00:21:02I think that I probably haven't been as open
00:21:05You know?
00:21:06That was how I dealt with disappointment
00:21:07was to close it off
00:21:12So it's like I have to open myself up
00:21:14You know?
00:21:15If I truly want to have a partner
00:21:18that truly understands all of me
00:21:22That's what you want to get to
00:21:23That's what you want to get to
00:21:24in a relationship
00:21:24because you don't ever want to feel like
00:21:25you're putting on
00:21:26You know what I mean?
00:21:26A thousand percent
00:21:35So who do you talk to so far?
00:21:36Um, so we went on a group date
00:21:38and I hung out with, like, Chris a little bit
00:21:41We had fun, but I didn't feel like it was something
00:21:45I could keep going for longevity
00:21:47Right
00:21:48Okay
00:21:48So how about you?
00:21:49What makes this timing now, like, right for you?
00:21:52Um, like, my last serious relationship was three years ago
00:21:56The last year, realistically, it's just been
00:21:59I was like, you know what?
00:22:00Like, kind of focus on, like, myself and my career
00:22:03It's kind of hard to, like, focus on, you know, a lot of things at the same time
00:22:07So I've kind of put dating on the back burner a little bit last year
00:22:11Yeah, I get it
00:22:11What about you?
00:22:11Um, yeah, so I have been single for four years
00:22:14Actually, yeah, so I just kind of went
00:22:18I kept having, like, toxic relationships
00:22:21Really?
00:22:21You know, and, like, the last one was, like, super toxic
00:22:23I was actually engaged
00:22:25Ooh
00:22:26Yeah, and it didn't work out
00:22:28And so I ended up, um, like, I really wanted to, like, explore and be like
00:22:33Why am I picking people that are not healthy for me?
00:22:36So did you, wait, so you never got married?
00:22:38No, I've never been married
00:22:39Have you been married?
00:22:40No, I've not
00:22:40No, I haven't been married
00:22:41Yeah, so never married, no kids, right?
00:22:43Um, well, I have one kid
00:22:45Okay
00:22:46I was 18 years old, and I was very young, and, you know, he wanted to go party
00:22:52And I was like, I'm at home with a baby, like, that's not gonna work out, you know?
00:22:57This is the guy you were engaged to?
00:22:59So I've been engaged twice
00:23:00Okay
00:23:00So that was the other one
00:23:02Well, actually, no, I've been engaged a few times
00:23:05I've been engaged...
00:23:05Damn, girl, you're collecting rings like J-Lo
00:23:07Yeah, yeah, so actually, I've been engaged four times, to tell you the truth
00:23:10Okay
00:23:11Four? Whoa
00:23:12I've had as many rings as LeBron James
00:23:14I was about to say, that's LeBron
00:23:15So I'm telling you much more relationship
00:23:17So not quite Kobe, but you're a LeBron level
00:23:17No, next one's Kobe
00:23:18Let me
00:23:19Let me
00:23:20Go ahead, let's have a sip
00:23:21Let's have a sip
00:23:22Let's have a sip
00:23:23Let me
00:23:23Yeah
00:23:24And then share what you wanna share
00:23:26Okay
00:23:27Oh
00:23:27And I'm breaking down these walls
00:23:36I'm not sure come down
00:23:44Before I came here, I was feeling a bit closed off to love
00:23:50And I used to think someone younger wouldn't be able to understand the responsibilities that you have as a single
00:23:57father
00:23:58But then I met Pfeiffer
00:24:00With anyone
00:24:02When I look at Pfeiffer, I feel at peace, like in a happy state
00:24:08I just love being around her
00:24:12I wanna take Pfeiffer to the promise room because I wanna continue our journey
00:24:16I don't want it to end here
00:24:19I'm feeling some nerves knowing that I'm moments away from revealing my age to Pfeiffer
00:24:26I'm trying not to love you so much
00:24:30But what's stronger for me is definitely the hope of love
00:24:38The promise room to me means commitment and it means acceptance
00:24:43I'm very confident in who Derek is as a person
00:24:46And so I'm hoping he can accept me for what he knows now, regardless of my younger age
00:24:52This whole time truly, I have not thought about his age a single time
00:24:56And getting to know Derek more has only confirmed that we have a connection
00:25:02Really, he just gives me space to be myself
00:25:06I mean, there's like nothing more that you could want, really
00:25:09Like I do feel, oh my god, sorry
00:25:14Sorry
00:25:21I've had some bad relationships
00:25:26And it took a lot for me to like accept that and like come into my own person
00:25:37So being around somebody who is so the opposite of that
00:25:42Is like, it's something that I didn't think that I would find so soon
00:25:50It feels like too good to be true
00:25:52I think
00:25:53I'll try anything not to love you so much
00:26:01I'm trying
00:26:05Hi
00:26:05Hi
00:26:07How are you?
00:26:08I'm good
00:26:14A little stressful?
00:26:16Yeah, it's a little bit nerve-wracking this whole situation
00:26:20This whole process?
00:26:21Yeah
00:26:23So much alliance for us
00:26:24Like it's been crazy
00:26:26Yeah, that's true
00:26:26You know, and like literally from the jump, like we said
00:26:29Like from our speed day
00:26:31Like it just felt comfortable with us
00:26:33Like I love that obviously I was extremely attracted to you
00:26:38Thanks
00:26:38You're beautiful
00:26:39Like obviously you understand being raised by your dad
00:26:42Me being a father
00:26:43Right
00:26:44You understand all that
00:26:45Family being big, clearly it's big to me
00:26:47And knowing that that's big to you
00:26:49And me being willing to obviously add to the family as well
00:26:53Whatever differences, challenges, all those things I feel like we could definitely get through it together
00:26:59You know
00:27:00I totally agree
00:27:01Yeah
00:27:02Coming here, I never would have thought that I would have found a connection
00:27:06A great connection
00:27:08My past relationships have definitely been rough, I would say
00:27:13And so being around someone like you is like refreshing
00:27:18Yeah
00:27:19Um, it's nice to be treated well
00:27:23Even if it's someone you don't know for very long
00:27:30And it's like it's
00:27:31I have a really hard time
00:27:35Opening up to people
00:27:38Just based on
00:27:39Um
00:27:40My past, you know
00:27:42But being able to
00:27:45Meet you
00:27:46And
00:27:47Like talk about what we've talked about
00:27:50So easily
00:27:52Obviously we haven't known each other for very long
00:27:55Um
00:27:57But it feels like I've known you for a long time
00:27:59Or longer than I have
00:28:00Which is
00:28:01I don't know
00:28:02I didn't think that that would happen
00:28:03Yeah
00:28:04So it's nice
00:28:05Yeah
00:28:06Sorry
00:28:07Um
00:28:08Yeah, I don't know
00:28:09It's been great
00:28:09It's been great
00:28:10And
00:28:11Um
00:28:11Yeah
00:28:13Anyway
00:28:15I'm looking forward to the next step
00:28:17I know, I can't wait
00:28:18I wanna keep going
00:28:19Yeah, me too
00:28:20Obviously
00:28:21Let's keep going
00:28:22Let's rock out
00:28:25This is my promise to you
00:28:26My commitment to obviously
00:28:28Continuing down the path that we're on
00:28:31Continuing to get to know and grow with you
00:28:33I'm loving every part of it so far
00:28:35I know it's only gonna continue to get better
00:28:37Even with you just opening up like that
00:28:39Like that just solidifies to me honestly
00:28:42What your heart is
00:28:43It's a heart of gold
00:28:44It means the world
00:28:45Thank you
00:28:46Absolutely
00:28:51Absolutely
00:28:52I got this
00:28:53I really had no hesitations and no doubts
00:28:55At all
00:28:56There's no one else here
00:28:57That I would ever wanna
00:28:59Put a ring on there for you
00:29:00You work
00:29:00Give me my family
00:29:02Um
00:29:02Yeah
00:29:03Thank you
00:29:04Of course
00:29:07Now we're ready to move on
00:29:08Oh my god
00:29:10To the next stage
00:29:11And so I'll
00:29:13First I'll start with my voice
00:29:15Right
00:29:15Um
00:29:15So Dominic
00:29:17Is 5
00:29:18And Carter's 15
00:29:20Okay
00:29:22And I'm 43
00:29:24Okay
00:29:29That's older than I thought
00:29:30But I don't really
00:29:31I don't care
00:29:32I don't
00:29:32I mean I've never really thought about it
00:29:34Before caring
00:29:35I haven't either
00:29:36Okay good
00:29:37Um
00:29:39Yeah
00:29:40I mean do you have any
00:29:41Do you have any guesses?
00:29:43Mid-20s like we're all my guesses
00:29:45Okay
00:29:45I'm 23
00:29:4923
00:29:49Okay
00:29:50Alright
00:29:51I have no problem with it
00:29:54Okay
00:29:54I know you
00:29:54The connection's there with you
00:29:56So
00:29:57It's shocking because
00:29:57I think more so like
00:29:59It's about experiences
00:30:01Right
00:30:01And obviously you've had life experiences
00:30:03And that supersedes
00:30:04And that supersedes just age
00:30:05For me
00:30:06So
00:30:06I'm excited
00:30:08Me too
00:30:09Me too
00:30:10Me too
00:30:12And have a kiss
00:30:19Yeah
00:30:32I'm happy
00:30:33Mm-hmm
00:30:34Say I'm happy
00:30:34I'm happy
00:30:35Oh my god
00:30:36I'm blessed
00:30:37I'm blessed
00:30:39I'm blessed
00:30:42I would have never thought
00:30:43That I would connect like this
00:30:44With somebody who is nearly double my age
00:30:46It's kind of unbelievable
00:30:48How quickly we were able to connect
00:30:50And truly how accepting he is of me
00:30:53Of my age
00:30:54Of my story
00:30:54Of my emotions
00:30:55Of everything
00:30:56That isn't to say that I'm totally fearless
00:30:58With no anxiety
00:31:00But at the end of the day
00:31:01I got to know Derek
00:31:02Based on who he is
00:31:03Like I got to know Derek
00:31:04Not Derek the 43 year old
00:31:0820 years
00:31:09When you first say it
00:31:09It's like wow
00:31:10A 20 year age gap
00:31:12There will obviously be challenges
00:31:13But that's a part of it
00:31:14That's a part of the growth
00:31:16Obviously we're starting the next phase
00:31:18But the overall objective
00:31:20Is to create a family together
00:31:23Create a home together
00:31:25And all those things
00:31:25So I think the next phase
00:31:26Will give us like a snapshot
00:31:27Into what that'll look like
00:31:29And then we'll go from there
00:31:31I appreciate you holding the umbrella
00:31:51I got you girl
00:31:53Yeah
00:31:53I like that
00:31:55I like that
00:31:55Thank you
00:31:57So far my strongest connection
00:31:59Has been with Logan
00:32:00He just seems very caring
00:32:02And supportive
00:32:04And affectionate
00:32:06And it's really what I like
00:32:09And it's really what I needed
00:32:10Yeah, yeah
00:32:11I want to know that he is somebody
00:32:14That wants to like build something together
00:32:16And yeah, I could see some potential here
00:32:20I hope I didn't scare you away
00:32:22With telling you about my history
00:32:25I was trying not to do the mental math
00:32:27Okay, yeah
00:32:28Like the four rings
00:32:29Yeah
00:32:29It was like
00:32:31Four years, four rings
00:32:32Yeah, yeah, yeah
00:32:33So this is hard
00:32:34But yeah, so I don't know
00:32:39Yeah, yeah, no, I mean
00:32:40One of those things where I just
00:32:41I'm still trying to
00:32:42I don't know, figure
00:32:43Yeah, figure it all out, yeah
00:32:45Yeah
00:32:46I don't think
00:32:47Are you afraid of like outside judgment?
00:32:49I don't think maybe
00:32:49Is that something that concerns you?
00:32:51I don't know, I mean, I'm just
00:32:51Yeah
00:32:52What do you think?
00:32:53Like, uh, I don't know
00:32:54How do you feel about
00:32:56I mean, cause like
00:32:57There's obviously a visible age gap
00:32:59Right?
00:33:00Yeah
00:33:00I mean, I, you know
00:33:01Geez, thanks
00:33:02No, I mean
00:33:04You think that people
00:33:05Are gonna think I'm your mom?
00:33:06No, I mean, I'm just saying
00:33:07I mean
00:33:08It's not, you know
00:33:10Like, what do you feel?
00:33:12You don't act like
00:33:13You haven't thought about it
00:33:19Yeah, that was a little insulting
00:33:21Him saying these things
00:33:22Are just raising all the red flags
00:33:25He doesn't know how old I am
00:33:27I don't know how old he is
00:33:28But I'm starting to see, you know
00:33:30Some of the immaturity
00:33:34So I'm definitely in a dilemma
00:33:36When it comes to Vanessa
00:33:37Like, I like her a lot
00:33:39I feel a strong connection
00:33:41She's super energetic
00:33:43She's friendly
00:33:44She's so easy to talk to
00:33:46She has the same interest
00:33:47But, you know
00:33:48When people are older
00:33:49Or have more life experience
00:33:51They, they have things
00:33:52That come with them
00:33:53There's, um
00:33:54More than just, uh
00:33:56An age difference
00:34:05At the end of the day
00:34:08I wanna say that I tried
00:34:11I wanna know that I faced it
00:34:14With my head held high
00:34:16I'm taking Chris to go to the promise room
00:34:18With me
00:34:19Because I love who he is as a person
00:34:22He makes me feel seen
00:34:23And he chooses me
00:34:25I got you though
00:34:26Thank you
00:34:28I got you though
00:34:29I got you though
00:34:30And that's what I've been wanting and missing
00:34:35I came here to find my person
00:34:37And, you know, I'm hoping he's my person
00:34:41We're on the same page
00:34:43With almost everything we've discussed
00:34:45Which is kinda rare
00:34:46You ready to settle down?
00:34:48Get married and have some kids?
00:34:50I'm very ready
00:34:51I don't want to waste time
00:34:53I want my happily ever after
00:34:55You look hot
00:34:56Ditto
00:34:57Will you marry me?
00:35:00Bye babe
00:35:03It's very important that Chris accepts me
00:35:06For me, including my age
00:35:09All of it
00:35:10I just want him to see me for me
00:35:12I mean, I can't change my birth year
00:35:14You know?
00:35:16It's a little scary
00:35:17And like, what if he does
00:35:19Act different
00:35:20When I do tell him my real age
00:35:22I'm afraid of that
00:35:27Looking back
00:35:27At the beginning of this process
00:35:29And my relationship with Vanessa
00:35:31I am so happy to have had that experience
00:35:34I feel like if I didn't have that moment with Vanessa
00:35:36I wouldn't have understand how important
00:35:37My relationship with Leah is
00:35:41I want her to know
00:35:43My family
00:35:44My brother
00:35:45My dog
00:35:46All these things
00:35:47And that's something that I've never felt before
00:35:50I'm nervous
00:35:51I'm super nervous for this
00:35:52There's no question about it
00:35:53I've waited all this time
00:36:08You look beautiful
00:36:12You look amazing
00:36:14Thank you, you too
00:36:16You look beautiful
00:36:18Thank you, baby
00:36:23I'm so happy you were here
00:36:24Me too
00:36:27You are genuine, kind, empathetic, consistent
00:36:32And you're fun to be around
00:36:34And that's all the qualities that I'm looking for in my future partner
00:36:39Oh
00:36:41Don't make me cry
00:36:42Sorry, babe
00:36:44I know
00:36:45In general, I struggle with sharing and being emotional
00:36:48Because I know that it leads to connections
00:36:50And connections leads to hurt
00:36:52Yes
00:36:52But, you know, it's led me here
00:36:55It's led me to sit in front of somebody
00:36:58That I could see myself building a long-term connection with
00:37:01And I can't wait to get to know more
00:37:03So excited
00:37:05My God
00:37:06Yeah, me too
00:37:11Okay, it's
00:37:12Let's see
00:37:15I commit to you, babe
00:37:17I choose you
00:37:19And I see you
00:37:21And I want to be with you
00:37:23That's beautiful
00:37:25Look at this cute little ring
00:37:26Is this gonna fit?
00:37:27Yes, it is
00:37:28All right
00:37:29This is cool, huh?
00:37:32The rings do look pretty
00:37:33They look pretty cool
00:37:35It matches your
00:37:36I know
00:37:37Who would've thought?
00:37:40Ooh, are you nervous?
00:37:42A little bit
00:37:44Because you know I'm gonna ask your age
00:37:46Mine first?
00:37:48Yeah
00:37:50You have to go first
00:37:54So now?
00:37:55Uh-huh
00:37:57Okay
00:37:58I am 26 years old
00:38:01I knew it
00:38:04I've never dated a 26 year old
00:38:07You were tripping me out
00:38:09When can I ask you?
00:38:10Can I ask you now?
00:38:11Okay
00:38:17What if I said I was 41?
00:38:20No
00:38:23Are you really?
00:38:24I am
00:38:25Wow
00:38:26Um
00:38:27I'm shocked
00:38:28I knew, I figured
00:38:29I knew you thought I was at least mid-30s
00:38:31Yeah
00:38:31I was gonna say 36 maximum
00:38:33And then like, yeah
00:38:34And then like, I
00:38:35I thought, okay
00:38:36First I thought 30, 31, 32
00:38:38And then I started talking
00:38:38And then I was like, okay
00:38:39She's a decade older
00:38:4036
00:38:40I was not gonna say older than that
00:38:43So you're happy?
00:38:46I'm happy
00:38:46Me too
00:38:47Um, I'm a little bit nervous
00:38:49But it's a good nervous
00:38:50I've never been able to open up to somebody
00:38:52Yeah
00:38:53As much as I have with you
00:38:54Agreed
00:38:54No matter what
00:38:55Let's just commit
00:38:57To being 100% ourselves
00:38:59I love it
00:39:00Throughout this next process
00:39:01I've never lived with anybody
00:39:02You've never lived with anybody
00:39:04This is gonna be a journey
00:39:06It is
00:39:06A good journey
00:39:08I'm excited for this
00:39:09Yeah, I mean
00:39:10It's gonna be a good journey
00:39:13You ready?
00:39:13Uh-huh
00:39:15Let's do it then
00:39:17Let's do it then
00:39:18Thank you
00:39:18Let me kiss
00:39:20You're so good
00:39:21Thank you
00:39:22Don't kiss me on my forehead
00:39:24You have to
00:39:34I knew there was an age gap
00:39:35I didn't think it was gonna be that big
00:39:3715 years
00:39:38Bigger than I expected
00:39:39But I am so excited to get to know more about Liam
00:39:45It was nerve-wracking for me to tell Chris my real age
00:39:49I didn't know how he'd react
00:39:50There was definitely a fear of him being like
00:39:53Oh no, you're too old for me
00:39:56I would be lying to say that there's no hesitation about moving in with each other
00:40:00These next few weeks will determine the rest of my life possibly
00:40:04We've had to increase the rest of my life probably
00:40:05I would be like you and I'm getting to know more about moving in with each other
00:40:06Oh no, I've never felt so hard
00:40:11We maybe it's time with us
00:40:13You and I'm coming to an end soon
00:40:29Right.
00:40:29And I feel like we don't really have any clarification, like, where we stand.
00:40:34So that's what I was hoping to talk about today.
00:40:36Yeah, absolutely.
00:40:37And I want to get some things off my chest as well.
00:40:41Okay, good.
00:40:42Good.
00:40:43That's what I was hoping.
00:40:44Vanessa is definitely the strongest connection that I've made.
00:40:45But when I brought up the age the other day, you know, obviously I messed up.
00:40:49I shouldn't have said that.
00:40:50We're here on this retreat, not to worry about that.
00:40:53I remember saying, you know, we'll talk again.
00:40:55And we kind of didn't.
00:40:57And that's when I kind of had this, you know, realization that I need to actually try with Vanessa.
00:41:05She's somebody that I really care about.
00:41:08You know, sometimes you either run or you stay.
00:41:11And that's when I told myself I want to stay.
00:41:14After we had that talk, like, I feel like I kind of shot myself in the fire.
00:41:19Yeah.
00:41:20And so from that point forward, it's like, well, she's still into me.
00:41:23Is she not?
00:41:24Like, do you still feel this?
00:41:25Do you want to talk to other people?
00:41:26Which is fine if you do.
00:41:28But, like, I'm still, like, trying to get a read.
00:41:30Yeah.
00:41:31It's been very difficult for me.
00:41:32Yeah.
00:41:32I just feel like, yeah, you've been my strongest connection here.
00:41:37You know what I mean?
00:41:38But, like, do you feel confident enough to, like, make this grow?
00:41:42Is this age thing going to really bother you, you know?
00:41:45And, like, how do we know unless we try?
00:41:48Right.
00:41:48But, like, do you want to try or do you feel is there still something holding you back, you know?
00:41:53Yeah, I mean, at this point, I think I was in my head about it, obviously.
00:41:57But to be honest, I don't think there's anything holding me back from at least making an attempt.
00:42:02Yeah.
00:42:03So I feel like I want to kind of take a step back and give you, like, kind of like
00:42:10the real me, right?
00:42:10He's taking accountability for his actions, and that really means a lot.
00:42:15And now it's, like, moving forward, I need to see if actions are going to line up with words.
00:42:21As far as the promise room, I feel like I need him to be that person to make that decision.
00:42:27So it lies in his hands.
00:42:31I'm going to put in the effort to man up and, you know, be the person that I feel I
00:42:38am, and that's with Vanessa.
00:42:49When I look at Vanessa, I feel excitement.
00:42:54There's a part of me that just wants to know what else is there to this woman that I'm already
00:42:59so attracted to, so intrigued by.
00:43:03Vanessa and I have had a rocky road, but she makes me want to commit, and that's a good sign.
00:43:11Now we're going to reveal our ages.
00:43:17It'll be interesting.
00:43:25I came here without putting parameters on age to try to find love in an ageless environment, and I want
00:43:33someone to share holidays with and milestones with.
00:43:36I'm tired of being the only one in my family that's single.
00:43:39My sisters are married.
00:43:41My daughter's married.
00:43:42I mean, I'm just kind of the black sheep.
00:43:44I don't want to go into the last years of my life alone.
00:43:54I know age is a concern for Logan, so I'm a little worried Logan might see me differently when he
00:44:00knows my age.
00:44:02I just don't know what to expect right now.
00:44:05I won't have to wait for some days.
00:44:13I don't know what to expect right now.
00:44:13I don't know what to expect right now.
00:44:13I don't know what to expect right now.
00:44:15Hi.
00:44:16Hey, gorgeous.
00:44:18How are you?
00:44:19Good.
00:44:20Good.
00:44:21Have a seat.
00:44:22You look nice.
00:44:23You look hotter and hotter every single day.
00:44:26I swear to God.
00:44:28How are you feeling?
00:44:29Good.
00:44:30You look absolutely stunning.
00:44:32Um, dating for me, it's been, it's been, there's been some ups and downs, obviously, as you've known.
00:44:39And, um, I chose to go here, get on this retreat because I wanted to just leave the outside world
00:44:48to come here and find that special connection.
00:44:51Um, and I think I was so concerned with finding, finding this connection, right?
00:44:58Finding the right one.
00:44:59You know, I didn't take the time to appreciate I was right in front of me.
00:45:04And that's this Midwestern girl, this amazing woman.
00:45:09And that's why I'm here.
00:45:11And that's why I invited you here.
00:45:14I appreciate that.
00:45:17I don't, I mentioned the other day, like, I lost my mom, like, less than a year ago.
00:45:22And I was just in a really dark place.
00:45:24And I realized, like, it's time for me to settle down and find my person.
00:45:29You know, watching my dad be there for my mom, like, to the end.
00:45:32Like, it really meant a lot.
00:45:34And that's, like, something that I wanted to find.
00:45:37So I came here trying to find the right thing and to find my light at the end of the
00:45:42tunnel.
00:45:42You know, we hit a rocky road.
00:45:45And my instinct when I hit a rocky road is to run.
00:45:50But something told me to, like, talk to you about it.
00:45:55Don't run away from it.
00:45:57And I'm glad that we're here.
00:45:58I'm glad that we made it.
00:46:00And, you know, sometimes I think the hard things can make you stronger in the long run.
00:46:05And I don't want to run away.
00:46:09I'm good.
00:46:19I love it. I love it.
00:46:20I love it. You kissed me so good it knocked my bracelet off.
00:46:26Yeah.
00:46:27Okay.
00:46:28Well, here's this for you.
00:46:33Yeah.
00:46:34I got this to symbolize my commitment to you moving forward.
00:46:41To continue this journey and this relationship with you and only you and nobody else.
00:46:48I want that too.
00:46:51Okay.
00:46:52And I'm giving you this.
00:46:54Because I promise not to run away.
00:46:56Okay?
00:46:57And I promise to talk to you through all the bumps.
00:47:06Okay.
00:47:07Oh, God.
00:47:09I forgot about this part.
00:47:11All right.
00:47:11Here's the hard part.
00:47:13Okay.
00:47:15Last thing.
00:47:17Okay.
00:47:20I am 29 years old.
00:47:30I was worried.
00:47:31That's good for me.
00:47:32Yeah.
00:47:33So, I am 49.
00:47:43I was going to guess 29.
00:47:45I mean, honestly.
00:47:46What did you think I was 49?
00:47:47No.
00:47:48How old did you think it was?
00:47:49I was going to say maybe eight years older than me.
00:47:53I was thinking mid to late 30s.
00:47:54Oh, wow.
00:47:55Okay.
00:47:55So, now, is it going to bother you?
00:47:59Do you still want to try?
00:48:03Hell yes.
00:48:04Of course.
00:48:05Come on now.
00:48:06I'm excited.
00:48:07Ready?
00:48:07Yes.
00:48:08Okay.
00:48:17If I knew Logan was 29, let's say I'm on a dating app, I'd say 29 no.
00:48:22Like, without even, like, looking at the rest of his stuff.
00:48:24But I came here with an open mind, and I feel like through all the ups and downs, we're
00:48:31in a really good place now.
00:48:33I was really hesitant about, am I going to find a connection?
00:48:36Is it going to be the right connection?
00:48:38But, you know, at the end of the day, it's Vanessa.
00:48:42I was very nervous to share my age because it was something that he was nervous about,
00:48:47but he's willing to push through.
00:48:49Time will tell, like, where this goes.
00:48:52I have strong feelings for her, and I, you know, I think that it's up to me to prove
00:48:56that, you know, I'm somebody that can be in it for the long haul.
00:48:59And I'm looking forward to continuing to build this connection.
00:49:02But, you know, you go from the retreat out into the real world to now living together.
00:49:07I mean, you know, of course I'm nervous, but I'm excited.
00:49:14Nervous excited.
00:49:27Upon arriving at this retreat, a group of singles of all ages came looking for love without knowing anyone's age.
00:49:35They dated, connected, and got to know each other without the usual judgments age can bring.
00:49:40Some found love within their age group.
00:49:43The big reveal? 46.
00:49:45Stop it. 47.
00:49:49I'm 26.
00:49:51Really?
00:49:51Yeah.
00:49:52I'm 23.
00:49:54Oh.
00:49:56Forty...
00:49:56Forty?
00:49:57Four.
00:49:58Forty-four?
00:49:58Yeah.
00:49:59Oh, wow.
00:50:00I am 48 years old.
00:50:01Okay.
00:50:03Alright.
00:50:03While others were shocked by the age difference.
00:50:06I'm 60.
00:50:14Now, six of those couples, with age differences ranging from 15 years apart to as much as 33 years apart,
00:50:21move forward in the next phase of this journey.
00:50:23This is happening to me, yeah.
00:50:28They'll live together, share their daily lives, and meet each other's closest friends and families,
00:50:34putting their relationships to the real world test.
00:50:37I never thought I could love this much.
00:50:42At the end of this experience, they will face a big decision that could change their lives forever.
00:50:48They'll take the journey to the top of this mountain, to face the person they've built something with,
00:50:54and decide, is this just the end of an experiment, or the beginning of something life-changing?
00:51:00Never, ever, ever love this much.
00:51:04Will age and all that comes with it be the thing that separates them, or the thing they overcome?
00:51:10Can the love they found survive what's coming next?
00:51:13Never, ever, ever tell you.
00:51:20Oh, okay.
00:51:22I'll take this one.
00:51:23Wow.
00:51:25This is beautiful.
00:51:26This is nice.
00:51:27I just can't believe I'm here with Derek.
00:51:30Cheers.
00:51:31Cheers.
00:51:31We really have gotten along great so far, and it's almost been unnervingly easy,
00:51:38but this really is the next phase in this experience,
00:51:42and the real world is about to smack us in the face.
00:51:45I'm definitely worried about the stigmas and the judgments that will come.
00:51:49I mean, Derek is nearly twice my age, which, saying that out loud, it feels crazy.
00:51:54I would be lying if I said, like, thoughts haven't crossed my mind.
00:51:58Like, what would my family think? What will my friends think?
00:52:01We made it.
00:52:01We did.
00:52:02But that doesn't dissuade me from continuing with Derek.
00:52:05I'm happy to face the judgments, because he means so much to me.
00:52:10But it will be challenging.
00:52:13Oh, my God!
00:52:14Oh, my God!
00:52:17I can't wait to see everybody, but I'm nervous.
00:52:20I still have some reservations over the whole age gap.
00:52:25Staying in the bubble would have been a much more comfortable situation,
00:52:28but that's not reality.
00:52:29Look who it is!
00:52:31Hey!
00:52:32Hey!
00:52:32Roll up like a hurricane.
00:52:34Hey!
00:52:34The part is right.
00:52:35The reason for a taste!
00:52:38I've definitely had a little bit of time now
00:52:40to kind of decompress from Libby telling me her age in the Promise Room.
00:52:46It'll be good for us to get to actually spend, like,
00:52:49a little bit more quality one-on-one time together.
00:52:52To the first three couples,
00:52:54and hopefully we got some friends and girlfriends right behind us.
00:52:58That's right.
00:52:58Absolutely.
00:52:59Cheers for that.
00:52:59Cheers.
00:53:00Oh, we got the one.
00:53:02Oh, okay.
00:53:04Okay.
00:53:04Leah and Chris, I'm a little bit surprised,
00:53:07but they really did have that physical connection,
00:53:10and they seemed so deeply involved with each other.
00:53:13I do kind of question do they have the strength of knowing each other's values and everyday character,
00:53:24because it's been a lot of touching and kissing and less talking.
00:53:30But, you know, that can maybe go a long way, so we'll just have to see there.
00:53:35No!
00:53:37What?
00:53:37We made it!
00:53:39We made it!
00:53:40Oh!
00:53:42Yeah, girl!
00:53:43Hey, Valerie!
00:53:43Last time I saw Vanessa and Logan, they were broken up.
00:53:46And I have heard some comments regarding optics.
00:53:50That one was really out of left field for me, but it was kind of an exciting surprise.
00:53:54And I hope that they're happy ever after and in love forever.
00:53:58I don't know if I see it, though.
00:54:00I'm on the moon.
00:54:01Whoa!
00:54:03She has already started.
00:54:05Hey!
00:54:05How you doing?
00:54:06Jorge and Vanell are so cute.
00:54:08I wasn't really sure who Vanell was gonna pick,
00:54:12so that was good to see her where she's at.
00:54:15I think that they're a great match.
00:54:17I just see their energy together.
00:54:19Like, they're so affectionate.
00:54:21I feel like a lot of the other couples here are more affectionate than Logan and I are.
00:54:27Tell us about your journey.
00:54:28I don't really know.
00:54:30I love listening to him talk, so do it.
00:54:33Tell him our journey.
00:54:33Yeah, he's really good.
00:54:34All right, so we had no communication.
00:54:37Like, it just...
00:54:37It's natural.
00:54:39It wasn't worth it.
00:54:39It was at it nowhere.
00:54:40You didn't get to meet on the speed day?
00:54:42Nope.
00:54:42Nothing.
00:54:43But immediately the conversation was supernatural.
00:54:45It's like, we didn't have to force anything.
00:54:47I wish I could say there's a lot more to it, but there's not.
00:54:49Yeah.
00:54:50Today, all day long, like, seeing you guys together made me realize, like, how wonderful you are together.
00:54:55Because, like, I hung out with him.
00:54:57Like, we had a great time.
00:54:59Wait, why didn't you guys work out then?
00:55:01So...
00:55:02You're not getting all serious, huh?
00:55:03You had another connection.
00:55:04Yes, and then you went on a date.
00:55:06Okay.
00:55:06Well, it was a group activity.
00:55:07Just kidding.
00:55:08It was a group activity.
00:55:09Like I said, date.
00:55:10It was a group activity.
00:55:11It was a group activity.
00:55:13Okay.
00:55:13We had a beautiful...
00:55:14Hold on.
00:55:15Let me...
00:55:15Stop it.
00:55:16It was beautiful already?
00:55:18It was.
00:55:18Did you guys kiss or something?
00:55:20Like, dang, what happened on this group date?
00:55:22Did you have any...
00:55:23Oh!
00:55:24Yeah.
00:55:25You know...
00:55:26I feel like I may have made a mistake.
00:55:29Part of me was already battling with whether I should share that or not about the kiss
00:55:33that me and Vanessa had prior to me and Leo's relationship.
00:55:36There was some wine involved.
00:55:37Oh, now there's wine?
00:55:38We're getting woozy.
00:55:40You know, we're hot.
00:55:41We're hot.
00:55:41We did get very hot.
00:55:42We're hot.
00:55:42And you know, it was a very simple hot kiss.
00:55:45Yeah, it was.
00:55:45Simple.
00:55:45Hot kiss.
00:55:46Oh, I heard you were sucking face.
00:55:48No!
00:55:49No!
00:55:49There's no tongue.
00:55:50I didn't know that Chris and Vanessa kissed.
00:55:55So that was interesting to find out today.
00:55:58I just thought he would have told me ahead of time because apparently Logan already knew.
00:56:03Apparently maybe everyone knew.
00:56:04I have no idea.
00:56:05We gotta see what's up now because that's unacceptable, period.
00:56:09I mean, you know, the reality is, like, we're at a retreat.
00:56:13We're finding connections.
00:56:13I mean, I didn't find any, so I don't know.
00:56:16I think it was a mistake to not reveal that and talk about that earlier.
00:56:20Did I mess up?
00:56:21I guess, I don't know.
00:56:22I'll find out soon.
00:56:24Okay, so, Fife, as somebody who's in a similar situation, how are you feeling about Derek having
00:56:30kids, the age gap, all the things?
00:56:32Yeah, I don't have experience dating someone who does have children.
00:56:36Same.
00:56:37Um, I mean, I like Derek for all that he is, including his children.
00:56:41And he wouldn't be the person that he is if he didn't have his children.
00:56:45Right.
00:56:45And, like, family and being a dad, like, those are things that are so important to me that it's, like,
00:56:50it only adds to his character.
00:56:51Yeah.
00:56:52Okay, so how are you feeling?
00:56:54Yeah.
00:56:54About the whole kids thing?
00:56:57Honestly, everything you said, I second that.
00:56:59And when I heard he had kids, I felt like I took him more seriously.
00:57:03Yes.
00:57:03Because, like I said, I'm looking for a guy who's more mature.
00:57:07It grounds them.
00:57:08More established.
00:57:09And to hear that he's, like, uninvolved, good father, like, honestly.
00:57:13Yeah.
00:57:14He's quality.
00:57:15He's high value.
00:57:16He's attractive.
00:57:17Yeah.
00:57:17How about you, Andrew?
00:57:19Only one girl that I've ever dated has met my daughters.
00:57:22But it didn't, you know, it didn't work out.
00:57:24And ever since then, I've been super protective of them.
00:57:26So, no one else has ever met my children.
00:57:29I told myself that no one else would unless I knew that that was going to be my person.
00:57:34You've told me about your daughters.
00:57:37I lead with it.
00:57:38They're a huge part of my life.
00:57:39So, it's tough.
00:57:40I mean, you know this.
00:57:41When you have kids, it's like, you know, you don't want people coming in and out of their lives.
00:57:45Right.
00:57:45You know, and it's...
00:57:46Have you showed you signs of being that person?
00:57:49I mean, we're going to find out, to be honest.
00:57:51My situation is, um, I have two children.
00:57:54When did you share with her your children?
00:57:56I haven't.
00:57:57You haven't.
00:57:58And so, you know what?
00:57:59She doesn't really have kids?
00:58:00No.
00:58:01Wait.
00:58:02I told you to even think about the fact, does Jorge have kids?
00:58:06Yeah, he does not have any kids.
00:58:08Yay!
00:58:09Is he going to marry?
00:58:09I don't think so.
00:58:10I haven't really asked.
00:58:12So, you're worried about that?
00:58:13She's not shocked.
00:58:13No, I'm not worried about it at all.
00:58:14Because, if in fact, we wouldn't have got here, if that was the fact.
00:58:18Right.
00:58:18If you were, right, right, right.
00:58:19That's right.
00:58:20When I told her my age, she didn't blink.
00:58:22Vanell didn't care about my age, and I was really happy.
00:58:24I'm relieved about that.
00:58:25But something that's weighing on me, something I really want to discuss with her, is my children
00:58:29and their ages, right?
00:58:31Um, so, my kids' age are right around the same age as her.
00:58:33And it's a concern, because I need to see her reaction and how she feels about it.
00:58:38I believe that our connection can withstand it, but we're going to find out.
00:58:41He doesn't want kids outside of marriage.
00:58:44Okay.
00:58:44Perfect.
00:58:45Perfect.
00:58:46I respect that.
00:58:48Because I'm the same way.
00:58:49Pray for me.
00:58:56Pray for me.
00:58:58Pray for me.
00:58:58Pray for me.
00:59:05Pray for me.
00:59:07Pray for me.
00:59:07Pray for me.
00:59:07You got the demons in my head going crazy.
00:59:11I can't bury them down.
00:59:14Dance around me like a looming shadow.
00:59:18Waiting to watch me drown.
00:59:21They want you and your wicked ways.
00:59:24Don't care how long it takes.
00:59:28Take me down somewhere the devil lies.
00:59:31Walk your story.
00:59:35I know that you'll treat me so well.
00:59:41As you pull me down closer to him.
00:59:47Pray for me.
00:59:49Pray for me.
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