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00:28Opening
00:30His violent fantasies
00:32They talked about imitating
00:33Some parts of the movie Natural Born Killers
00:44Dangerous attraction
00:48Without remorse
00:54She told me a story.
00:56About how she and her new boyfriend
00:57Ben Dauras walked around the city
00:59On May 28, 1995
01:01In Muscogee, Oklahoma
01:03The police approach Patrick Williams.
01:06From 21 years old to execute the arrest warrant.
01:10But he had another matter in mind.
01:12The love of your life
01:14Sarah Edmondson
01:15A four-year relationship ended.
01:17And she was showing off a new boyfriend.
01:21Patrick wants revenge.
01:26That Sarah, she's no good.
01:27They were going around town saying they killed a guy in Louisiana.
01:32He told the police that
01:34Sarah Edmondson told you about a robbery.
01:38Which he had committed in Louisiana
01:44And she said she had done that with her new boyfriend, Ben.
01:49They killed a guy in Louisiana.
01:52You should arrest them both.
01:53No, I
01:54She was the one who did something wrong.
01:56She and that...
01:57The information was transmitted.
01:59Louisiana police authorities
02:06But that's not enough for Patrick Williams.
02:09Upset that his ex-girlfriend ran off with another man.
02:15He is so determined to create problems for both of them.
02:18Who calls the Louisiana police several times.
02:23I was at my desk.
02:25When an officer came in and said
02:27You can talk to a man on the phone.
02:29He said that
02:31There was a homicide in Louisiana.
02:33Committed by his girlfriend
02:35This man
02:37He said that his ex-girlfriend
02:40And the new boyfriend
02:41They had gone that day.
02:43To the Sea of Graves
02:45And while I was in New Orleans
02:49They committed a crime.
02:50The Sea of Graves
02:52The New Orleans Carnival
02:53It had been three months before.
02:55Detective Patrick
02:57I knew nothing about any homicides.
02:59Not resolved in the city.
03:00But there was a case involving a mysterious woman.
03:02The police department
03:05I was investigating the incident.
03:06In a convenience store
03:08In Puxatula
03:08Recorded by a camera
03:18Dramatization
03:57Emergency
03:58Hello
03:59I am in
04:00In
04:00In
04:01Time Saver
04:01A woman was shot.
04:02Come
04:03Come quickly!
04:04She is badly injured.
04:15The security camera
04:17It showed a woman.
04:18Entering the convenience store
04:20Wearing a striped blouse
04:21With hood
04:22She pulled out a gun.
04:25And he pointed to the box.
04:28She shot
04:29And it hit the woman.
04:38Then he left.
04:43One minute later
04:45The shooter is back.
04:50She went behind the counter.
04:52Four
04:53She typed in the numbers.
04:55To open the cash register
04:56He took some money.
04:58And he left.
05:01The victim
05:02Patsy Byer
05:0335 years old
05:04He was shot in the throat.
05:06And she was seriously injured.
05:08The neurosurgeon
05:09He went out and told me.
05:10That there was nothing she could do.
05:11Nothing at all
05:12The damage had already been done.
05:13And she would become quadriplegic.
05:15When suspicion
05:17He went into the store.
05:18For the second time
05:22She looked down.
05:24And I told her
05:26He's not dead yet, is he?
05:30And he asked how it opened.
05:32The cash register
05:34The victim stated the numbers.
05:36She should type
05:37She managed to open it.
05:38And he took the money.
05:39This was very significant.
05:42In that case
05:43AND
05:45We try to understand
05:46What kind of people were we dealing with?
05:49She pretended to be dead.
05:51Hoping not to be evaluated again.
05:54We didn't know exactly.
05:56If the suspicion was
05:57From the region
05:58From the state
05:59Or even from out of state.
06:02We weren't sure.
06:03And then we turned to the media.
06:05We spread photos
06:06From the security video
06:08To see if we could...
06:11Any clues?
06:12About her
06:13The police followed several leads.
06:16We investigated them all.
06:19Nothing concrete.
06:21We've reached the point.
06:23In which we had nothing new.
06:25And the case
06:26It started to get cold.
06:30Even Patrick Williams
06:32Call the police
06:33Three months later
06:35I asked
06:37Do you have a photo?
06:38About that girl?
06:39He said
06:39Yes I have
06:40A good photo of her
06:41I asked
06:43If he could send it by fax.
06:47The girl in the photo
06:50It was so similar
06:52With the shooter
06:53Hooded
06:54In the case of
06:55Patsy Byers
06:55That I stayed
06:56I was shocked.
06:58I thought
06:59It's her
07:00I had no doubt whatsoever.
07:04The main suspect
07:05Now it's Sarah Edmondson.
07:0718 years old
07:08But she has powerful friends.
07:11The boss told me
07:12You won't believe it.
07:14The suspect has relatives in politics.
07:18Sarah is Jim Edmondson's daughter.
07:20Who at the time was a district judge.
07:23From Muscogee County
07:26Your uncle is Drew Edmondson.
07:28Who is the attorney general?
07:29From Oklahoma
07:31Your grandfather Ed Edmondson
07:33He was a congressman.
07:35Your great-grandfather
07:36J. Howard Edmondson
07:38He was a senator.
07:39And even governor
07:43Prison officers
07:44Shipped from Louisiana
07:45The investigators
07:46They head home.
07:47From the Edmonsons
07:48And they tell
07:49Sarah's mother
07:49Susanne
07:50What is happening
07:53We asked her
07:55Who
07:55It was Ben.
07:57And she
07:59She told us
08:01Who was Ben Darras?
08:02Sarah's boyfriend
08:04They were traveling by car.
08:05And they passed through Louisiana.
08:10The investigators
08:11They need to find the weapon.
08:14Sarah told Patrick
08:16That I had used
08:17A .38 caliber weapon
08:18From your father
08:19That used to be
08:21Stored in the chalet
08:22From the family
08:23She said that
08:24I had put the gun away.
08:26Back at the chalet
08:29The police
08:30Then call your father.
08:31From Sarah
08:31Judge Edmondson
08:33He found the weapon.
08:33Under the mattress
08:38Local investigators
08:39And federal
08:40They are informed
08:41Whereabouts
08:41Of the two suspects
08:42But considering
08:44To the judge
08:44They agree to postpone
08:46The prison
08:50Ben and Sarah
08:51They had gone
08:52To a park
08:53Of amusements
08:54In Toulson
08:54In Oklahoma
08:56At night
08:57In what way does the police
08:58He came to arrest them.
09:00The judge
09:01Edmondson
09:02He convinced the police.
09:03Don't call
09:04The SWAT team
09:05To go to Toulson
09:06End the party
09:07Of all
09:07In the park
09:08Of amusements
09:16We waited.
09:17In the car
09:18In front
09:18The residence
09:29I didn't understand
09:32The officers
09:34They should wait.
09:35The authorization
09:35For attention
09:37Of the suspects
09:42In May
09:43From 1995
09:44The FBI
09:46And the police
09:46From Muscokyo
09:47In Oklahoma
09:48They expect the suspects
09:49By assault
09:50Ben Darras
09:51And Sarah Edmondson
09:52Go back home
09:57Attention
09:58All cars
09:59Attention
09:59They allow
10:00That the father
10:01From Sarah
10:01A judge
10:02Respected
10:02Talk to her
10:03Don't be afraid
10:05The police
10:06They are here.
10:07To
10:07Arrest you
10:09For the robbery
10:09And attempt
10:10Of murder
10:11From a woman
10:11In Louisiana
10:12Ben
10:13He's going to be arrested.
10:14As an accomplice
10:16And you have the right.
10:17Having a lawyer
10:18Like you
10:18Throughout the entire process
10:19She assured us.
10:20That he would cooperate.
10:22And that we didn't need
10:24From a team
10:24From SWAT
10:25Not at all.
10:27Sarah and Ben
10:28They are accused
10:29For using a weapon
10:30Of fire
10:30Of fire
10:30Illegally
10:31And by attempt
10:32Of murder
10:33In secondary school
10:34During the robbery
10:35Those who practiced
10:35In the state
10:36From Louisiana
10:37Three months before
10:39Sarah
10:39He refused.
10:41Talking to us
10:42And to do
10:42Any statement
10:46Good
10:46Then we went.
10:47To the chalet
10:48From the parents
10:48From Sarah
10:49AND...
10:50On the contrary
10:50From Sarah
10:51Ben has a lot
10:52Saying
10:52And he begins to recap.
10:53The events
10:54Events
10:54Three days before
10:55From the attack
10:56Patsy Byers
10:57In the store
10:57Convenient
11:06Ben said
11:07That he
11:08And Sarah
11:08Some time passed.
11:10In the chalet
11:10From Judge Edmondson
11:11Near Talequá
11:13And they used drugs.
11:14Including marijuana
11:16Ecstasy
11:16And also LSD
11:19And while they were there
11:21They watched
11:21Some films
11:23We watched movies
11:26According to the version
11:27Ben
11:27They drove
11:28Until Destination
11:29In Florida
11:29In hope
11:30To find
11:31Some friends
11:31From Sarah
11:32But they changed.
11:33From idea
11:34And they decided
11:34Spend Carnival
11:35In New Orleans
11:40But they stayed
11:41No money
11:43We traveled all night.
11:45And after passing
11:46Loyalty
11:46His girlfriend
11:47It quickly disappears.
11:50Ben told us
11:51That Sarah
11:52He suggested
11:53That they would steal
11:54A store
11:55Convenient
11:56From this
11:58They started
11:58Looking for
11:59A target
12:00And they chose
12:02The store
12:03From Pontiatula
12:04What was
12:05Quite isolated
12:14During the interrogation
12:16With me
12:16And with the agent
12:17From the FBI
12:17Ben
12:18It played
12:19All the blame
12:20Sarah
12:22He said that everything
12:23It was her idea.
12:27He told
12:28Who left
12:29Sarah
12:30Get out of the car
12:44I forgot the money.
12:46I
12:48I need to go back
12:49To catch
12:50Don't go back there
12:51I have to go back.
12:51And take
12:55Sarah had
12:56The money was forgotten.
12:57And he had to go back.
12:59For the store
13:06Four
13:08Five
13:15I took the money.
13:16Okay
13:17Let's leave soon.
13:17From here
13:19I didn't believe it.
13:20I just wanted to leave.
13:22From that place
13:25Ben says
13:26The police
13:26That he
13:27And Sarah
13:27They drove
13:28To the southwest
13:28Before returning
13:30Oklahoma
13:33We had
13:34The print
13:35What does Ben
13:35I hadn't told you.
13:36Everything about the trip
13:37That was all
13:39An intuition
13:40But we think
13:41Which he omitted
13:42A stop
13:43Somewhere
13:44From the route
13:47In a maneuver
13:49Unusual
13:49The lawyers
13:50From Sarah
13:51They convince
13:51A special judge
13:52Retiree
13:53That she
13:54She should be released.
13:55And hospitalized
13:56In a hospital
13:57Psychiatric
13:58In Toulsa
13:58For an evaluation
14:01Your bail
14:02It is stipulated
14:03$50,000
14:06That would postpone it.
14:07Your extradition
14:08To Louisiana
14:14The investigators
14:16They explore
14:17Your past
14:19In every aspect
14:21Your childhood
14:22He was
14:22Absolutely
14:23Normal
14:24Scouting
14:26Cooking
14:27Dance
14:28Your mother
14:29She took it
14:30To do
14:31All activities
14:31Of girls
14:32For your age
14:33She looked
14:34To have had
14:34A childhood
14:35Perfect
14:37In Muscoog
14:39She was
14:40Very attached
14:41To Grandpa
14:42He died.
14:42When she had
14:4314 years
14:44And she reacted.
14:45Very bad
14:47Also
14:48He reacted badly.
14:49To the deaths
14:50From some friends
14:50One committed
14:51Suicide
14:52And others died.
14:53In accidents
14:54By car
14:57She started
14:58Using drugs
14:59And walking
15:00With more companies
15:02She reacted
15:03To the deaths
15:05Of people
15:06Changing completely
15:07Your middle
15:08Everything became
15:09Dingy
15:10It's cold.
15:11A clear indication
15:13From a depression
15:14Very serious
15:14The behavior
15:15From Sarah
15:16It became more unstable.
15:17She made cuts.
15:19And burns
15:19In his arms
15:20And legs
15:21People
15:21That are cut
15:23They usually
15:25Inflict
15:26Physical pain
15:27In an attempt
15:29To get rid of
15:30From emotional pain
15:31To divert
15:32Withdraw attention
15:34From emotional pain
15:36Sarah's parents
15:37They went through a long process.
15:39Of alienation
15:41They moved away from her.
15:43I don't have much.
15:44To say
15:45From me
15:45In terms of relatives
15:50Desperate
15:50Sarah's parents
15:51The intern
15:52In a clinic
15:53Rehabilitation
15:53For drugs
15:54And alcohol
15:56She had
15:57Just 15 years old
16:00Your parents
16:01They were relieved.
16:02When she finished
16:03The treatment
16:04And he went back to studying.
16:06But the joy
16:07It didn't last long.
16:09After only
16:10Three weeks
16:11She abandoned
16:12The school
16:14For four years
16:15Sarah dated
16:16Patrick Williams
16:17But the relationship
16:18It had been problematic.
16:20He was obsessed.
16:22For her
16:23They had
16:24A relationship
16:25Complicated
16:26For several years
16:28AND
16:28He became
16:29So violent
16:30That Sarah's parents
16:31They obtained an order.
16:32Restriction
16:33Approaching
16:34Against Patrick
16:36According to his father
16:37According to his father
16:37And other people
16:38She liked
16:39To walk
16:40With pariahs
16:40Social
16:41She accepted.
16:42These people
16:43The relationship
16:44It ended badly.
16:46After working
16:47As a waitress
16:48Sarah enrolled.
16:49In a small school
16:50In Talequá
16:5140 kilometers
16:52From Muscoge
16:55Patrick Williams
16:56He continued to pursue her.
16:58But Sarah fell in love.
17:00For a new man
17:01Also with a past
17:02Problematic
17:03Ben Darras
17:06In 1995
17:08Sarah Edmondson
17:09And Ben Darras
17:10They were extradited.
17:11To Louisiana
17:12To answer
17:13By trying
17:14Of murder
17:14From a box
17:15From a store
17:16Convenient
17:16During a robbery
17:24The police discover
17:26Ben was born
17:26In a family
17:27Of humble origins
17:28From Ada, Oklahoma
17:30Among five children
17:32Ben was the middle child.
17:33And she came from a broken home.
17:35Your parents
17:37They got divorced.
17:38Then they got back together.
17:39And they got divorced.
17:40A second time
17:42Ben's father
17:43He was an alcoholic.
17:44And he committed suicide.
17:45When he was 13 years old
17:47There were some coincidences.
17:49Strange
17:50Between Ben's lives
17:51And from Sarah
17:52In early adolescence
17:55Ben had problems.
17:57At school
17:57He dropped out of school.
17:59And it ended up playing
18:00In a rock band
18:01In 1993
18:03The Darras family
18:05She moved from Ada.
18:06For Talequá
18:07Also in Oklahoma
18:08Two years before
18:09Upon arrival
18:10By Sarah Edmondson
18:12Teenagers
18:13They met
18:14At a party
18:15From friends
18:15From school
18:18The boys liked it.
18:20To get together
18:20For drinking
18:21Smoking marijuana
18:23And they met.
18:24Then they became friends.
18:26And then boyfriends
18:28For Ben
18:29It was love at first sight.
18:30He fell in love.
18:32By the girl
18:32Which he considered different
18:34They felt
18:35At the same time
18:36That person
18:37It stands out.
18:38That person
18:39It's like me
18:40It was like looking at each other
18:42In the mirror
18:42They felt
18:44Immediately attracted
18:45As if they could
18:46Do something
18:47Together
18:48That they wouldn't do
18:49With no one else
18:52Sarah was his
18:53Second girlfriend
18:54What if he was
18:57Terribly
18:59Passionate
19:00He was crazy.
19:01For her
19:02The novel
19:03It became a distraction.
19:06Just two months
19:07After returning
19:08The school
19:08Sarah abandons
19:09The studies
19:10Once again
19:12Two weeks
19:13After being
19:14Freed
19:15On bail
19:16And after completion
19:17From the evaluation
19:18Psychiatric
19:19From Sarah
19:19Teenagers
19:20They are extradited.
19:21For the state
19:22From Louisiana
19:22She is received
19:24By another team
19:25From lawyers
19:26In defense
19:28She is indicted.
19:29By trial
19:30Of murder
19:31In secondary school
19:32Assault
19:33The armed hand
19:33And the use of a weapon
19:34Of fire
19:35During a crime
19:35Violent
19:37Ben Darras
19:38He is accused
19:38Just for robbery
19:39The armed hand
19:42In Mississippi
19:44A lawyer
19:45He claims to be representing
19:46Someone willing
19:47To be solved
19:47The mysterious
19:48Murder
19:48It happened
19:49In the state
19:49But he will not reveal it.
19:51More details
19:52Until your client
19:53Have immunity
19:54Against a possible
19:55Indictment
19:57I found
19:59To grant
19:59Immunity
20:00For her
20:00It was evil.
20:01Necessary
20:01I didn't like it.
20:03But it was necessary
20:04How does he
20:06Go in there
20:06The agreement
20:07It's closed.
20:08And the main
20:09Witness
20:09It's Sarah Edmondson
20:12When the agreement
20:14Immunity
20:14It was closed.
20:15The lawyer
20:16In defense
20:17Which represented
20:19Sarah
20:19Provided information
20:20About where
20:21With whom
20:21She was
20:22And the investigators
20:24Responsible
20:25Immediately
20:25They went to Louisiana.
20:26To question her
20:27Ben never
20:29He mentioned
20:29No incidents
20:30In Mississippi
20:31When he spoke
20:31With the investigators
20:33But Sarah
20:34Are you ready?
20:35To reveal
20:35What had he
20:36Attempted to hide
20:37I finished
20:38Confirming
20:39My suspicions
20:40Regarding the fact
20:41Ben
20:41Having omitted
20:42Something
20:43During the interrogation
20:45What did I do with him?
20:46We love murderers.
20:48Because in fact
20:48At the beginning
20:49Sarah's version
20:50It looks similar.
20:51Her boyfriend's
20:53Sarah declared
20:55The night before
20:56The trip to Mississippi
20:57She and Ben
20:58They stayed in the chalet.
21:00From the family
21:02While they were there
21:03They watched
21:04To murderers
21:04By nature
21:10Before leaving
21:11From the chalet
21:12The following morning
21:14They caught
21:15A pistol
21:15That belonged
21:16To the father
21:17From Sarah
21:18In addition to one
21:19Ammunition box
21:23Sarah claimed
21:24Who caught
21:24The weapon
21:25To protect yourself
21:26Ben
21:26Since he
21:27I had tried
21:27To suffocate her
21:28During the relationship
21:29Sexual
21:29From the previous night
21:32In his first
21:33Testimony
21:34The police
21:34Ben said
21:35That they had
21:35I'm going to Florida.
21:36But he was lying.
21:38They said
21:39What were
21:40To Memphis
21:40To see a show
21:42From the Grateful Dead
21:44They arrived
21:45One day before
21:45From the show
21:46And they decided
21:47Go to New Orleans
21:48Crossing the border
21:49Between the states
21:50From Tennessee
21:50Mississippi
21:52Sarah
21:53He said they stopped.
21:54In Hernando
21:56To refuel
22:06The couple
22:07It was getting
22:08No money
22:10Sarah
22:10He said that Ben
22:11And not her
22:12He suggested
22:12That they would steal
22:13Somebody
22:29They stop
22:30In a factory
22:30Processing
22:31Cotton
22:48Leave very slowly.
22:49And she thinks like an angel
22:52It's OK
23:02And then we went in.
23:04And we asked for information.
23:06And then
23:11Excuse me
23:12How do I get it?
23:13The main road
23:14Good
23:16Follow this street
23:17For about two kilometers
23:25And shots
23:26They were fired
23:30Sarah
23:30Grab your wallet.
23:31No
23:31We have to go.
23:32Sarah
23:32I already said it.
23:33Grab your wallet.
23:33Let's go
23:36Grab your wallet.
23:38Now
23:45Bill was
23:46A very kind man
23:48He was married.
23:50And she had two daughters.
23:52He was
23:53A family man
23:55And he worked hard.
24:00Bill Savage's body
24:01It was discovered
24:02By an insurance salesman
24:03Who decided to pass
24:04Through your office
24:05To visit it
24:06On the afternoon of March 7th
24:08From 1995
24:12I wake up every morning
24:14And I put my hand on the pillow.
24:15Looking for him
24:20It was evident from the scene.
24:21That he had been surprised
24:25The police discover
24:26That his wallet was stolen.
24:27But there's no clue.
24:29Regarding identity
24:30Of the assassins
24:31He had no feuds.
24:33With no one
24:33Then we started to find
24:35That possibly
24:36It was someone
24:37From outside the city
24:38I remember
24:39That during the investigation
24:40We used to
24:41The term wanderer
24:45Our
24:46What an adrenaline rush!
24:48Did you see his face?
24:49When did I shoot?
24:52He heard the scream.
24:53The noises
24:54What did he do?
25:01He stayed
25:02Influencing me
25:03He stayed
25:04Telling me
25:04That I had
25:05Sarah says
25:06Sarah tells the investigators
25:06That they drove
25:07All the way to New Orleans
25:08And they stayed there.
25:09In a cheap hotel
25:23Just look
25:24It has a bit of brain.
25:25That guy
25:25In my shoe
25:29It has his blood in it.
25:30In my jeans
25:35It was me
25:36That I did all of that.
25:40The homicide yielded
25:41The pair
25:42Just 200 dollars
25:43That were in the wallet
25:44By Bill Savage
25:46Ben D'Arras
25:47He kept a macabre memory.
25:49A piece
25:50From his pants
25:50With splashes
25:51Of blood
25:52From the victim
25:59According to the testimony
26:00From Sarah
26:01Your boyfriend
26:02He made it clear.
26:02That evil
26:03Of the two
26:03It was the same
26:06I think you
26:07You're right.
26:07I think it's possible.
26:09Do this
26:09We are partners.
26:11Right?
26:12AND
26:14I
26:15I got scared.
26:17But
26:17I found
26:18That I had
26:19Courage
26:20They left
26:20From New Orleans
26:21And they stopped.
26:22In the store
26:22Convenient
26:23In Polchatula
26:24In Louisiana
26:26Go for it, Sarah!
26:27Go in there
26:28And it solves
26:29Sarah tells
26:30To the investigators
26:31Who was hesitant
26:32And he only robbed
26:33The store
26:34Because he was afraid
26:34For your life
26:36She
26:37He blamed good.
26:38Put
26:39All
26:40What
26:40It happened
26:41According to Sarah
26:43None of that
26:44It was her idea.
26:46Nothing
26:46She didn't want to.
26:49Not at all
26:50That
26:50If it happened
26:51She only
26:51He committed the robbery.
26:52AND
26:54He shot.
26:55In women
26:55From the store
26:56Convenient
26:56From Louisiana
26:57Because Ben
26:59She forced her.
27:00She tried
27:01She tried
27:01Guilt
27:01She tried
27:05I did it, I am guilty.
27:13He told me the plan...
27:16Sarah Edmondson revealed to investigators that her boyfriend, Ben Darras, robbed a man in Mississippi and derived pleasure from killing him.
27:23-lo.
27:28He even kept a piece of pants with blood splatters as a souvenir.
27:35However, Ben claims to have had nothing to do with the murder.
27:39Ben told investigators that he had not been with Sarah in Hernando, Mississippi, where Bill Sávade was.
27:47assassinated.
27:48He said that Sarah was the one who called the shots in their relationship, that all the operations were conducted by Sarah.
27:55that the gun they took from the chalet belonged to Sarah's father, that the car used was the one from
28:00Sarah.
28:03Who is the leader and who is the follower depends on who is responding.
28:07And this applies to almost every pair of murderers that exists.
28:12It depends on who answers.
28:14Some say it had to be Sarah, she was the stronger of the two.
28:18Sarah said it was Ben.
28:20People who knew Ben said it couldn't have been him.
28:23Those who knew Sarah said it couldn't have been her.
28:29A month after the couple's arrest, Patsy Byers decides to sue Ben and Sarah for damages.
28:38The lawsuit accused Sarah and Ben of negligence, planning the robbery, and shooting the victim.
29:05She was going to be paralyzed for the rest of her life and didn't want to live anymore.
29:09And that was hard for all of us, you know?
29:14She told me she would rather die than live paralyzed.
29:19And it was very difficult for me.
29:25She was paralyzed from the neck down due to injuries sustained from the gunshot wound inflicted by Sarah Edmondson.
29:33She had young children to care for.
29:36She had a husband.
29:37This condition would create many other problems in his life.
29:42She would need special transportation, adapted vehicles, and motorized wheelchairs.
29:48Things of that nature.
29:51The entire community was in shock because of this for many months.
30:03Sarah's parents are also mentioned in the legal proceedings.
30:07They left a gun in the cabin.
30:10Their daughter had already gotten into enough trouble before, and they shouldn't leave a gun within her reach.
30:18Sarah has lawyers in three states looking after her interests.
30:24Ben D'Arras decides there's another way to avoid a life behind bars.
30:29He plans to escape from his cell in Tangipahou.
30:34In October 1995, he risked an escape.
30:44Then one day I received a call from Perch prison, saying that Ben and two other inmates had tried to escape.
30:52And that they had managed to get into the pipes or the walls, something like that.
30:58So I sent one of the detectives there and he saw the damage they had done.
31:04He was charged with attempted escape.
31:08He had a little smile on his face the whole time.
31:13Five months after their arrest, prosecutors decide that Sarah and Ben will be tried first in Louisiana.
31:21Under the immunity agreement she made with Mississippi prosecutors, Sarah admitted to shooting Patsy Byers in exchange for
31:28to reveal who had killed Bill Savage.
31:30If I had been sober, I would never have left Oklahoma.
31:34Her legal team was confident that her statement could never be used against her.
31:40But prosecutors in Louisiana have a different opinion.
31:44In fact, that was a confession.
31:45It was very strong evidence that we could use in the prosecution.
31:50And that's when the legal battle actually began.
31:53In this case, should the Louisiana prosecutor's office respect the immunity granted by the Mississippi prosecutor's office?
31:59The declaration of immunity also leads to a major reversal in the civil action brought by Patsy Byers.
32:06when the filmmakers of a Hollywood movie are named as defendants.
32:11Sarah made a statement in which she acknowledged having ingested LSD and alcohol and having watched the movie Natural Born Killers several times.
32:22times.
32:23And he said that he had contributed to the outbreak of violence.
32:26Furthermore, the lawsuit named four or five different Hollywood entities as defendants.
32:32But director Oliver Stone was the main defendant.
32:36He makes great films, but this particular one depicted violence.
32:42in a way that, in this case, may have encouraged a more violent type of behavior.
32:56We can be killers by nature.
32:58They talked about imitating some parts of the film, especially the series of murders.
33:04In the film, Woody Harrison and Juliette Lewis play Mickey and Mallory.
33:09A couple who commit a series of murders.
33:11We decided to open the case because we believe that, from a moral standpoint,
33:17Natural-born killers greatly encouraged violence.
33:21We believe that his message to young people was that crime does indeed pay.
33:29Those two watched the movie and used drugs.
33:33Mickey and Mallory were doing drugs, and so are we.
33:36Let's hit the road, let's do what they did.
33:39We will have the freedom they had.
33:41No one will catch us.
33:43Sarah and Ben had watched the movie many times before the crimes.
33:49Quadriplegic and suffering from cancer,
33:51Patsy Byers agrees to record a deposition for prosecutors.
33:54describing how Sarah Edmond Swan shot it.
34:01She was too ill to testify because she had cancer.
34:05Because she couldn't feel her own body, she couldn't feel the pain.
34:09and it spread completely throughout his body.
34:13The day before recording her testimony,
34:15Patsy Byers dies in the hospital.
34:19She was only 38 years old.
34:23Patsy was a wonderful person and I loved her very much.
34:27Patsy loved sports and adored her children.
34:32She always took care of them.
34:35She was very dedicated, even to small things.
34:39Whatever she did, she did with pleasure.
34:42Then, I moved on to something else.
34:45That's how she lived her whole life.
34:48And when she got that job,
34:50She thought it was the best thing that had ever happened to her.
34:56Patsy hated Sarah Edmond Swan.
34:58Rest assured, she didn't want to see her released.
35:04Finally, after a three-year legal battle,
35:07in which Sarah's lawyers did everything they could to prevent
35:10that her client's incriminating statement be used against her,
35:13The Louisiana Supreme Court is ready to announce its decision.
35:23In 1998, after a three-year legal battle,
35:28A court decision will finally determine whether Louisiana prosecutors...
35:31They can use the testimony of Sarah Edmond Swan.
35:34in which she admits to shooting Patsy Byers.
35:37The confession was obtained under an immunity agreement.
35:40This case reached the Louisiana Supreme Court.
35:43We presented our arguments to the Court.
35:45And she decided that we could use that statement.
35:48We did not grant immunity.
35:49It was the Mississippi prosecutor's office that gave it.
35:51We had the right to use it here.
35:53We shouldn't be limited by the immunity granted in Mississippi.
35:56And the Supreme Court ended up ruling in our favor.
36:00Soon after, Ben D'Arras also closes a deal.
36:03with prosecutors in Mississippi
36:05to avoid a possible death penalty
36:07and finally admits to shooting Bill Savage
36:10in exchange for a life sentence.
36:16We met with Bill Savage's wife and family.
36:20and we gave all available options for the trial.
36:23And we thought that would be the best option.
36:27And they agreed to the deal.
36:30It was the best way to solve all of that.
36:33However, prosecutors agree to postpone the formal sentencing.
36:38until Ben D'Arras testified against Sarah Edmanson in Louisiana.
36:46Three months later, Sarah pleads guilty.
36:49to avoid a possible maximum sentence of 149 years.
36:55She did this after several years.
36:57questioning the acceptance of the testimony he gave in Mississippi.
37:00But she ended up pleading guilty.
37:03of armed robbery and attempted murder.
37:07In 1998, Sarah Edmanson was sentenced to 35 years in prison.
37:14We were disappointed.
37:15We felt that the sentence given to Sarah was far too lenient.
37:20Ben D'Arras manages to close another deal.
37:24To avoid a possible additional 99-year sentence in Louisiana,
37:29He agrees to plead guilty.
37:31and receives the same sentence as Sarah.
37:35Ben was guilty of the same crime as Sarah Edmanson.
37:39Armed robbery and attempted murder.
37:41Even though he didn't enter the store, he was subject to our laws.
37:44And he was just as guilty as Sarah.
37:45But Sarah did indeed enter the store.
37:48He pulled the trigger and shot Patsy Byers.
37:50I found it really unfair.
37:52that Sarah Edmanson received an identical sentence to Ben D'Arras.
37:58On his deathbed, despite his terrible condition,
38:01Patsy Byers showed compassion.
38:04in asking prosecutors to be lenient with Sarah Edmanson.
38:10This case was truly one of the most impressive and remarkable.
38:14among all homicides and attempted homicides
38:17In what areas have I worked in during my career?
38:19I found it incredible that a victim in a hospital bed,
38:25paralyzed, not knowing if she was going to live or die,
38:29had that kind of feeling.
38:31Even after being shot by Sarah,
38:35She didn't want to hold grudges.
38:38She said she didn't want Sarah to spend the rest of her life in prison.
38:42And perhaps, just perhaps, after she had served her sentence,
38:47could be released from prison at a relatively young age.
38:50and be more productive in life.
38:52Then, I would realize
38:54what he did to her and her family.
38:58Patsy wanted her to have another chance.
39:04to do something useful in life,
39:07even though they committed a crime.
39:12For John Champion,
39:13Bill Savage was more than just a victim.
39:16I am married to his niece.
39:18and we had been married for two years
39:20when Bill was murdered.
39:22He had a wife and two daughters.
39:25He was very close to his family.
39:27He always put her first.
39:29He was very connected to the community.
39:31He always worked very hard.
39:33It's always been like this.
39:35It was one of...
39:38one of the kindest men
39:40whom I've known all my life.
39:41He was very generous.
39:46Ben D'Arras will spend the rest of his life in prison.
39:50Sarah Edmanson's immunity deal
39:53It stipulated that she could never be punished.
39:55for his participation in the robbery-homicide committed
39:58in the state of Mississippi.
39:59About that,
40:00the controversy surrounding the film
40:02Whether or not to encourage acts of violence continues.
40:05Oliver Stone did not intend to incite violence.
40:08with this movie.
40:09He wanted to show how our society...
40:12It glorifies and glamorizes violence.
40:14and it turns violent people into celebrities.
40:16In June 2002,
40:18a Louisiana appeals court
40:20finally decides that the Byers family
40:22You should not receive any financial compensation.
40:27The judge rejects the allegations.
40:29that the movie Natural Born Killers
40:31It was obscene and encouraged violence.
40:34The right to freedom of expression
40:36That was a crucial argument.
40:38It cannot be said that only violent films
40:42They cause violent incidents.
40:44There are also films.
40:46who are not violent
40:48and have the same effect
40:49Because it depends on how the individual interprets it.
40:53Ben and Sarah
40:54They are not murderers by nature.
40:56Many of his actions
40:58They are linked to the environment in which they lived.
41:00to the way they experienced it
41:02and the decisions they made
41:04along the way.
41:07Millions of people
41:08They watched Natural Born Killers.
41:10And they didn't go around killing anyone.
41:13So, I think we can take it off the list.
41:16Millions of people
41:17They use drugs.
41:18and consume alcohol
41:19And they don't kill people.
41:21I think we can also remove them from the list.
41:24Many people
41:25They often have problems.
41:26during childhood
41:27and they don't just go out there either
41:29killing people.
41:30We can say that this too
41:31It's not on the list.
41:33So what's left?
41:35You tell me.
41:39Currently, Ben D'Arras
41:40serves sentence
41:41in the state penitentiary
41:42from Mississippi.
41:44On an internet blog,
41:46he states that the suggestion
41:47than that natural-born killers
41:49may have taken the couple
41:50committing the crimes
41:51It was pure invention.
41:52of the lawyers
41:53by Sarah Edmondson.
41:59Ben says that today
42:00He's a changed man.
42:01a devout Christian,
42:03involved in programs
42:04assistance
42:05to other inmates
42:06and prevention
42:07to violence
42:07among teenagers.
42:09Sarah Edmondson
42:10served his sentence
42:11at the Correctional Institute
42:12for Women
42:13from Louisiana.
42:15The former student
42:16who dropped out of school
42:17helped other female inmates
42:19to obtain their diplomas
42:20secondary level.
42:21After serving 11 years
42:23of his sentence,
42:24Sarah gains her freedom.
42:26conditional in May
42:272010.
42:28The attack on Bill Savage,
42:31the attack on Patsy Byers
42:33They were completely unnecessary.
42:36Those were heinous acts.
42:40There is no way
42:41to predict what might happen
42:43when two people
42:45with violent tendencies
42:46they meet
42:47and express
42:48these violent tendencies.
42:50depend on the degree
42:51of psychopathy
42:53and also
42:53of criminal sophistication.
42:57The idea of Ben
42:59to get excited
43:00through power
43:01to kill another person
43:02feeling it
43:04who has control
43:06and he is more of a man
43:07It was very intriguing.
43:10for him.
43:12Sarah was clearly
43:14influenced
43:15By Ben Dowers.
43:16I don't believe she
43:17would have killed
43:18a person
43:19without Ben
43:20to provide encouragement.
43:28Was it the drugs?
43:29Was it creation?
43:31Was it the alcohol?
43:33It was chemistry.
43:34Between the two?
43:36I think it should exist.
43:38a seed of evil
43:39in some people.
43:41It's that simple.
43:49Brazilian version
43:51Vox Mundi
43:52It is one.
44:04AND
44:19simple.
44:21Thanks.
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