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00:00And we're talking out the idea, just the concept that we do here.
00:04And I don't want, I guess, I hope this doesn't sound like I'm picking on Anthony and Brentwood,
00:08but he is one caller that happened on Stiney and Goo, Evan in for Stiney today.
00:13But he's trumpeting a point that I've heard from many, which is, oh gosh, don't like, what are we playing
00:20for?
00:20Why don't we just pack it in because Steph is hurt and something bad has happened.
00:27And, and boy, it's not like we're going to win anyway.
00:31And I thought, you know, so we threw it out to Steve and he's like, well, then what are we
00:36doing?
00:36Which was kind of, I mean, it's funny earlier today, I'll let everyone behind the curtain.
00:41I had sort of, I, I was listening to the guys and I texted Grandy right away.
00:46I go, Hey, cut this call.
00:47I want to play this for Steve later because I'm just sitting there thinking that was my same reaction.
00:52If that's how you feel, you're allowed to feel that way.
00:55But then what are we doing?
00:56Listen, like, wow, what a lot of stuff they're all going through.
01:02A lot of money being spent traveling around the country playing basketball games.
01:06If there's literally no point to sports, unless you are contending for a championship or waste one, that's the whole
01:15phrase that always drives me crazy.
01:17The idea about contending for a championship.
01:19I think the Warriors, by the very nature of getting a play in game, most likely they are contending for
01:26a championship.
01:26Whether or not they're a strong contender, a favorite, a likely contender, whatever kind of contender they are, they're going
01:33to be in the mix.
01:34They're going to be one of 20 teams with a chance.
01:37There'll be 10 teams with no chance.
01:38And that's where you look at Utah and how they've gone about their business.
01:42And I know Utah beat the Warriors, so maybe it's not a great example, but they're not contending for a
01:47championship.
01:47They've got a lot of their better players not playing because they'd rather not go out there and win.
01:54And this Warrior team not only will never, I don't think, be in that spot, but right now they're not
01:59in that spot.
02:00You're in a play-in position, so you go out there and compete, see if you can improve and get
02:06into a spot where maybe you can get a series.
02:08Yep.
02:08And by the way, they could get totally canned in that series if it were to happen, and I'm still
02:13on the back end of being like, there was value in that.
02:16There was value in that.
02:19Let me think.
02:21Who right now, and I know that a lot of these guys were on the team last year,
02:25but is there anybody on the Warriors right now that has not even played in a playoff game before?
02:31I mean, Will Richard.
02:33Right.
02:33That would be a first for Will.
02:35I'm sure Leons and Williams and...
02:38Did Pat Spencer and Guy and Quentin, were they getting minutes against Houston last year?
02:43I think they were.
02:44Were they?
02:44Pat Spencer played a lot in the Minnesota series once Steph went down.
02:47Once Steph went down, that's right.
02:49So Pat got that taste, but like, get that taste, right?
02:52And this would be more of a real taste.
02:54Like, Guy starts now, and Pat plays big minutes.
02:57Like, hey, Guy, we're looking at you to score 20, actually.
03:00This isn't just the cup of coffee, hey, happy to be here kind of stuff.
03:04This is where you're actually going to be needed, needed.
03:07Even if Steph comes back, you're still going to have, you know, Guy for sure, who's going to be in
03:12the rotation, if not more.
03:14888-957-9570.
03:16Let's take some calls.
03:17How about Matt in Oakland?
03:17Hi, Matt.
03:18Thank you for calling in.
03:19What do you got?
03:21Hey, what's up, fellas?
03:22Hey, Dibley, it's dunking on fools, like F-O-O-S.
03:28Ah, gotcha.
03:30Yeah.
03:31Hey, all good.
03:33No, but I'm totally against that caller that said tank it.
03:37Look, man, they're arresting their guys to load up for the playoffs.
03:41They're loading up.
03:42You get Curry back, you get Curry with Porzingis, and two Currys at that.
03:48I mean, I think once you get in the playoffs, Guy Santos is playing very well.
03:54I think that they got a chance to really jump on some guys and sneak up on some guys.
04:00They played the Knicks close.
04:02They played OKC close with no Curry.
04:05I think, you know, Curry puts them over the top.
04:07I'm not saying they're the number one seed for championship, but I'm saying they can sneak
04:13up on some teams and, you know, really put some surprises in your stockings, so to speak.
04:21But I really think that they could really load up for the playoffs.
04:25They've rested these guys.
04:27Jeff missed 20 games or so.
04:29He's going to be ready to go.
04:30He's going to be ready to go.
04:32So I'm not tanking anything.
04:34I want to see him play in the playoffs.
04:37Matt, thanks.
04:38Appreciate it.
04:39And here's the interesting thing.
04:40Whether I agree with Matt or not, like, ooh, they're going to be there.
04:45They're going to be healthy, and then they can scare you.
04:48It doesn't even – there's only one way to find out.
04:50Right.
04:51There's only one way to find out.
04:53That's get there and get into a series with OKC and just see how much they're actually
04:58scared.
04:58And I think San Antonio would be more likely to be scared because they haven't done what
05:03OKC just did, which is 16 wins and a gauntlet.
05:06And now that they've gone through it and they kind of had to survive it when Halliburton
05:10blew out his Achilles tendon, maybe they don't win it if that doesn't happen.
05:14Who knows?
05:14But they did the thing.
05:16They won the 16 games.
05:17You need to win their champs.
05:18It's just fascinating to me how often sports surprises us, followed by how many of us think
05:24that sports never surprises us.
05:27It'll never this, that, or the other.
05:29But maybe it will, because sometimes it does.
05:33You just never know until you get into it.
05:35And if you want to look at – you know, you won't have Jimmy, but if you have Porzingis
05:40and Steph and Draymond and you've got the eighth seed and you're taking on Oklahoma City, you're
05:45going to feel like you've got a puncher's chance.
05:47You go to OKC and you just win one of those two.
05:50You steal one in the first two.
05:52All of a sudden, that momentum would change.
05:54I guess what if I even pitched to you, and again, while agreeing with everything you're
05:59saying, what if I told you, yeah, they probably will get their doors blown off.
06:05So?
06:06Yeah, and it doesn't matter.
06:07So?
06:07Let's play.
06:09Like, what's wrong with that?
06:12Why are there so many fans who seem sort of – I don't know if the right word is allergic
06:18or turned off or just they're bitter at that idea.
06:26It's almost like – you said something earlier that is resonating with me.
06:32Are there fans out there that believe that this would tarnish something if the Warriors
06:37were to get into the playoffs?
06:38I was joking.
06:39I know you were.
06:40I mean –
06:41I know you were.
06:41Honestly.
06:42You were being sarcastic.
06:43Right.
06:44But that doesn't mean that someone else might feel that that's sarcastic.
06:49Like, what if that's my question?
06:51What are you worried about?
06:53So Steph comes back in a week and a half and he plays basketball.
06:57And the Warriors go off on their journey.
07:00And it could go one of three ways.
07:03They – like, you could go into the play-in tournament and lose.
07:07You could go into the play-in tournament and win.
07:09And then lose in the playoffs.
07:12Or Steph could re-aggravate his injury and then still have the better part of six months
07:19to get ready for his next basketball game.
07:22If I put those as the three answers on the board, what are you scared of?
07:27What is this – what is this bad thing that can happen?
07:32And I'm going to take away your answer of, no, no, no, Mark.
07:35You want to get into the lottery because maybe – well, but then you're playing miraculous.
07:41Like, honestly, what's a better chance right now?
07:43The Warriors getting the number one pick or winning a ring?
07:45I would argue the percentages are somewhere in the same neighborhood.
07:49Very close, yeah.
07:49That's actually a great way to lay it out.
07:51So why the hell – like, what?
07:53What are you worried about?
07:55If you lose the play-in and you wind up with the 14th pick or you make it out of
08:00the play-in
08:01and you take on OKC and you lose in whatever amount of games and you wind up with the 18th
08:05pick.
08:06So wouldn't you have – wouldn't you rather have five or six or seven playoff games
08:12and four worse spots in the draft as opposed to, well, we're going to go ahead
08:16and we're going to rest Steph and we're just going to go in the lottery
08:18and we'll wind up in 14th anyway and we didn't get anything other than a play-in loss at Portland?
08:24I'd rather have the other scenario.
08:26Agreed completely.
08:27Boy, math, we play with it sometimes.
08:29I was talking about this over the weekend with a friend.
08:32You know how all of these – you'll love this.
08:34We can talk more about it maybe a little bit later.
08:37But this whole bracket thing where all of these platforms will be like,
08:42if you get a perfect bracket, we'll give you a million dollars.
08:46Do you understand that if you get a perfect bracket, you deserve a trillion dollars?
08:50Close to it.
08:52That is the funniest thing that these – we'll give you a million?
08:57You're only going to give me a million?
08:59Which is really only about half of that, but they'll let that get in the way.
09:02The Powerball happens three times a week and you'll constantly get told,
09:07don't buy Powerball tickets.
09:09You're more likely to get hit in the face by lightning.
09:11Right?
09:12Right in the face?
09:13I mean, honestly.
09:15But you know what happens in the Powerball?
09:18Every three weeks or so, somebody wins.
09:22When's – how many people – raise your hand.
09:24How many people do you know who have filled out a perfect bracket before?
09:28Not a one.
09:29I don't think it's ever happened in the history of ever.
09:32So why – if you hit the Powerball, you get like somewhere between $100 million and a billion dollars.
09:39And it happens every three or four weeks.
09:41But over here, once a year, we offer up something that's never happened in the history of mankind and creation.
09:50And we're like, if you do it, we'll give you a million dollars, half a million after taxes.
09:58The odds of filling out a perfect bracket are one in 9.2.
10:05Quintillion.
10:06Quintillion.
10:07Quintillion, which comes after quadrillion, which comes after trillion, which comes after billion, which comes after million.
10:14I'm down with all the aliens.
10:16But you get a million dollars.
10:18I'm like, that is such a bad – that's a terrible joke.
10:22A million dollars for a perfect bracket.
10:24A guy in 2019 had the first 49.
10:28He went 49 for 49.
10:31And he was grinding on what?
10:33Making maybe 492K?
10:35Something.
10:36If he got the next 13 or 14 right?
10:38I think he needed 18 more, assuming that you have to pick the first four, which is, by the way,
10:43underway.
10:44So anyway, I'll give you a trillion dollars if you fill out a perfect bracket.
10:48I'll take 9.2 quintillion.
10:51Okay.
10:51All right.
10:52We're going to need to do a GoFundMe.
10:55All right.
10:56Back to the phones.
10:57Let's go to Justin in Sonoma.
10:59Hello, Justin.
10:59How are you?
11:01What's going on, guys?
11:02What's up?
11:05Wasted a little bit of time there with that lottery bit.
11:07Well, you know, we got four hours, Justin.
11:09What do you want from us?
11:11No, I'm just messing with you.
11:13Okay.
11:13Hey, I mean, as a Warrior fan, I think Steph still doesn't get his credit, right?
11:18Like a Jordan.
11:20If you got Jordan coming off an injury and you're getting into the playoffs, you feel like you got a
11:25chance.
11:26So, as a Warrior fan, a diehard and a big basketball fan, I feel the same way with Steph.
11:34And to add to what Matt was saying in Oakland is just, you know, they don't really have to bring
11:42him back.
11:43You know, I think as fans like you guys are, you might want to see him back to get some
11:47chemistry going.
11:48But he wants to play.
11:50And if he's got the ninth or the tenth spot, you know Steph's going to be playing.
11:54If he's in the playoffs, he wants to play.
11:58And if these pieces fall into place like you guys have been talking about, you know, Chris and Pod, you
12:06know, the 2022 team,
12:07can you even name seven guys that played, like, right off the top of your head?
12:12Can you name the starting five?
12:15You know what I mean?
12:16Yeah, I probably could. I'd have to think about it for a second.
12:18I think I could. But, yeah, I have to go back in time.
12:22You know, and they weren't supposed to win it that year.
12:24They just played well and the chemistry came together and Poole played out of his mind.
12:29And Looney fucking looked like Charles Barkley.
12:33Oh, Gritty.
12:34Yeah.
12:34All right. Thanks, Justin.
12:36Yeah.
12:37So, okay.
12:38Once again, I'm going to agree with the premise, but I want to push it even further.
12:43Because a lot of the calls we're getting are sort of the ilk, like, wait a minute.
12:49Like, this is Steph Curry.
12:50So, if he comes back, then, you know, you just, you never know.
12:54You've got a chance.
12:56And this is what I'll say.
12:57Okay. I agree.
12:58However, what if we push even further?
13:01What if I told you there's absolutely no chance, but I still want him to come back?
13:07I just want to watch Steph Curry play basketball.
13:11I'm sort of trumpeting something that I feel like all of us have said, but are maybe forgetting in this
13:16moment.
13:17Aren't we supposed to be in the mode of soaking up every single last minute we've got with this guy?
13:22That's right.
13:22And now some of you are calling in being like, let's keep him on the shelf.
13:26Let's save him until, as Steve pointed out, let's save him until he's 39.
13:30Are you kidding me?
13:31I, right now, will take every single night that that guy puts a uniform on.
13:37I don't care what the hell's on the line.
13:39I don't care if there's nothing on the line.
13:43Let's see it.
13:44Let's see Steph Curry play basketball, potentially against the Oklahoma City Thunder.
13:49If you just look at what he's under contract to do, if he played every regular season game,
13:54starting tomorrow through the end of next year, 99 games is what you'd have left.
13:5999 bottles of stuff on the wall.
14:00And you take one down, and he's got bad knees, 98 bottles of Steph on the wall.
14:05So of the 99, he might only play 60 of them.
14:09And so if you really want to, like, maximize the Steph Curry window,
14:13how about you maximize the watching Steph Curry window, which means he's healthy, he plays,
14:18and I can't wait to see him running around again and shooting those,
14:20I can't believe he did it again, threes.
14:24I get it.
14:25I mean, to a degree, and I don't really feel this, like, all the way in,
14:28but to a degree, the water has been poisoned.
14:31We got a lot.
14:33I mean, I thought about this, and didn't Stiney maybe bring this up a couple of months ago?
14:38Do you know how many fan bases, and you and I are in the age group that can say this,
14:43I don't know how many human beings get to walk the earth where all, like,
14:48three different teams in their city, in their lifetime, experienced a dynasty?
14:55Does that exist anywhere else?
14:58In a lifetime where three different teams in one market all performed three separate dynasties?
15:05In three different sports?
15:06I don't think so.
15:08I mean, the Lakers, you had multiples.
15:10Sure.
15:10And the Dodgers, sadly, are kind of in one now.
15:13It would seem.
15:14Boston, you'd have to be pretty old to remember the first dynasty,
15:17and then the Red Sox had, wasn't quite dynastic, but they had.
15:21They won a couple.
15:22Right.
15:23A couple in the Patriots.
15:25Yeah.
15:25And beyond, yeah, the Patriots would be the other one, and then New York you had,
15:29well, the basketball team hasn't gotten one since Dave DeBuscher,
15:33and, you know, San Antonio doesn't have the other sports,
15:36and, you know, Miami and Cleveland got the one,
15:39and so, yeah, you'd be hard-pressed to find another three-sport city.
15:42I just, you know what I mean?
15:44Like, I've been here enough years to remember all of the years where, like,
15:48we go to games and we watch games and we're not thinking about championships.
15:53It's just not, that's just not what was on the mind.
15:57No, like, but love of the game and having fun and also getting involved in
16:04whatever spot that team is in at that time.
16:08You're building.
16:10We've become, and we hate that word, and our teams now, from a PR standpoint,
16:14like, the executives aren't even allowed to use this word.
16:16They would get ripped if you used the word rebuild.
16:19How many times do you hear an example, we're not rebuilding, we're reloading.
16:23We're retooling.
16:24We're retooling or whatever.
16:26We're readjusting.
16:26Those words are all switched because the fan base has sort of become allergic to the idea
16:33of rebuild, even though that is a normal part of sports life and has to be done kind of
16:40all the time.
16:40You do have to do it on the fly when you're a major market that's supposed to spend a lot
16:44of money, and I get that.
16:45Yeah.
16:45It just depends on the NBA how you go about doing it, because the Lakers, it always was
16:49a reload.
16:50It was, all right, Kobe is aging out.
16:52Let's go get LeBron, and let's go ahead and keep this thing rolling, and before that,
16:56it was Magic and Kareem became Shaq and Kobe.
17:00Well, if I ever felt, see, that's, you're right, and that's different.
17:04I think a fan can totally be ticked off if they ever feel like an ownership group with
17:09their favorite team is not in some sort of process of trying to win, and this is where
17:16we get to, you know, John Fisher comments and things like that.
17:20That's a bunch of BS.
17:22That's different.
17:24That's totally a bunch of BS, but even if in a given moment you have a team that wants
17:32to take a big step toward winning, and that just happens to be where they're at at that
17:36time, if you feel like they're spending money and they are actually doing the right things
17:42to try to win, that's where you are sometimes.
17:46And that's, I think Utah is another good example of that because they feel like now when, you
17:51know, you re-signed, mark it in, and then you made some trades this year to really bring
17:55in pieces that are going to have you in a spot.
17:57You have a couple draft picks coming up.
17:59You've got a good young nucleus, and so if you're a Utah fan, you can at least see, all
18:03right, I see where we're heading.
18:05Washington's the other one where you bring in Trey Young, and that might just be a contract
18:09to move, and Anthony Davis doesn't play basketball, so you're kind of stuck in a spot of, like,
18:14what are we even doing here?
18:16This is one of the favorite texts that we've ever received.
18:19I've got to say this.
18:22Grandy, you'll love this one.
18:23Boxer and Gerson work injury attorney's text line.
18:26Who says that our industry is having a hard time attracting young people?
18:32925.
18:33I love you.
18:34I want to take you to dinner, 925.
18:36This is hysterical to me.
18:38Thank you so much for listening and engaging with the show.
18:41Who is the third dynasty?
18:44Warriors?
18:45Giants?
18:46And then who?
18:47Yeah.
18:48Young.
18:49Possibly.
18:50Actually, I don't want to take you to dinner.
18:52I would like to pay for your AMC Plus package.
18:56AMC Plus.
18:58Go ahead and download that.
18:59Send me the bill.
19:00I'll take care of the first month.
19:02You can watch the documentary on the 49ers,
19:06and then hopefully you'll have your answer as to who the third dynasty was.
19:11Again, I said, if you're a certain age.
19:13Well, yeah, and that age would be north of 50.
19:17Honestly, because you're 51, and so in 82, you were, what, 7?
19:23Yeah, but it ran all the way through the early 90s.
19:26I mean, even if you joined it in 88, you saw three titles in six years.
19:32Well, you'd be almost 40 at that point.
19:34Yeah.
19:34Yeah, you've got to at least be 40, for sure.
19:37You've got to at least be 40.
19:38Or even older than that, because, you know, if you're born in 80, that 88 team, you were
19:438, and that's kind of like early sports fandom.
19:46I was 7 when the Niners won their first.
19:48I remember it.
19:49Right, of course.
19:49But that's early, and, you know, you're an oddball, and your son is kind of right there
19:55with you, your younger son.
19:56Well, those cats, I'd tell them all the time.
20:00I mean, they were born, and it was just like, okay, let us know what month the parade is
20:07this year.
20:08Exactly.
20:08Every year.
20:10The Giants, Warriors, Warriors, Giants, Giants.
20:12I was just like, this is ridiculous.
20:13And on that, though, like, the teams have been good, other than some anomaly years, and
20:18that, to me, is more what you're talking about, like Super Bowl or bust, championship or bust.
20:22How about just be good?
20:23Just be good or try to be good, and if you're trying to be good and it's not working, then
20:29have the courage to make the change necessary so that you can try to be good again.
20:35Yeah, the Niners, I think, in their lifetime, they've been to three Super Bowl parties.
20:39Is that right, Granny?
20:40Three Super Bowls the Niners have been to?
20:42Three Super Bowls, right?
20:44Yeah, and in the last one, all more painful than the previous.
20:47Sure, sure.
20:48I get it.
20:48I get it.
20:49Chris in Santa Clara.
20:51Hi, Chris.
20:51Thanks for calling.
20:52What you got?
20:54Hey, I got two things for you.
20:56First, what NBA teams would trade their first pick to the Warriors in exchange for the Warriors'
21:04second pick and Steph Curry?
21:06Are there any teams that would do that?
21:09I don't know.
21:10I don't know.
21:11But that's super, super complicated.
21:13Because, as you know, you can't just trade picks in the NBA and then throw in a $60 million
21:18player.
21:19You've got to get salaries to match and all that.
21:21So, probably not, is my answer, Chris.
21:25Yeah.
21:25So, the reason why I ask is, you know, I've got a kid who plays college ball.
21:29And I'm sure you know a lot of kids who are playing college ball.
21:32And I was kind of chatting with some of his friends the other day.
21:35And, you know, I think Steph Curry is kind of seen, I hate to say it, but, you know, he's
21:39kind of like the crypt keeper.
21:40There's no riz.
21:41There's no excitement among the young generation, the early 20s guys who are out there actually
21:45playing, whether it's basketball, baseball, whatever.
21:47And, you know, I wonder if Warriors fans of a certain age are so locked into the cuddles
21:57and all the good feelings from years past that they're not realizing the Warriors are not
22:01attracting the next generation that they need by hanging on to yesterday as opposed to simply
22:08turning the page and moving on.
22:09Well, super debatable point, Chris.
22:11First and foremost, of all the voices that have ever called this station that I sort of
22:16thought would not say no riz, Chris was very high on the list.
22:21So, first and foremost, good on you, Chris.
22:23That was tons of fun for everybody in the room.
22:26But beyond that, I don't, like, I think you, he thinks he's got a final answer to this already,
22:31that the Warriors are hurting their future by hanging on to their past.
22:36To me, that's a TBD.
22:37How'd that work out for San Antonio?
22:40For a while, it worked out really, really well.
22:42I mean, for a while, it worked out poorly, but now you've got Wenbin Yama.
22:46Yeah.
22:46So, I mean, you had Timmy until he was 40, and eventually Tony and Manu Ginobili left,
22:52and you had, and then now you got a singular force.
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