00:00Okay, the big sports story of the afternoon, the Max Crosby update.
00:05Trey Wingo says the Cowboys thought they had a deal done for Max last night.
00:10Then other teams jumped in and might be offering two first-rounders.
00:15Trey says now they're going to pursue Trey Hendrickson.
00:19So I guess the Cowboys are out on Max Crosby now is the update.
00:25It's cool to know they're serious about plugging their holes with all pro-level players.
00:31Let me just say that.
00:32Salute to the Jones boys.
00:33They're in the big fight now.
00:35They're in the real game, and I like that.
00:36Jane Slater said on Max and the Cowboys being in play here,
00:41here is what I'm being told from a team source.
00:43Raiders are talking to a lot of people, but we would not give up two first-rounders.
00:48She says that's the situation right now.
00:50Will that change?
00:51I don't know, but I checked for those of you interested.
00:54Did the Cowboys do the right thing here, not giving up two firsts?
00:57I think so.
00:58Now, look, maybe they decide.
01:00Take your drafting hat off.
01:02Yes.
01:03Take your drafting hat off that you've seen 100-some-odd players,
01:08and you're neck deep into this thing.
01:11Which makes it obviously harder.
01:13You keep your team-building hat on.
01:15But I don't think at this stage, and I would give up 12.
01:19As much as you cheer for Dak.
01:21I would give up 12.
01:22I would go as high as that.
01:24Okay.
01:24But I don't think I can go 12 and 20.
01:26Would I be open to saying, okay, I'll give you a one,
01:29and I'll give you next year's two?
01:30Yes, I would do that.
01:31Give me a combination, since you studied the draft as well as you do,
01:35and you're really good at it.
01:36That's going to sound like Dawson there for a minute.
01:37You're not a lot of people.
01:38That's going to sound like Dawson there.
01:39It'll kind of butter you up a little bit.
01:41I appreciate that.
01:41Give me two players at 12 and 20 that you would take combo platter better than Max Crosby.
01:52I know I put you on the spot there.
01:54Yeah.
01:54I mean, downs at 12 if you were to fall there.
01:56That's fair.
01:57And then at 20?
02:02Jacob Rodriguez.
02:03Okay.
02:04Yeah, and I look at it like also in free agency,
02:07it's not like you don't have to get somebody that's still a really good edge player.
02:11You could go get the Trey Hendrickson.
02:12You could go get the Jalen Phillips.
02:14You could get a handful.
02:16There's a handful of these guys that you can still get a quality player there
02:20without giving up the assets.
02:21If I'm giving up the two ones, I'm going to need a second-round pick in return.
02:26I'm going to need, hey, if I'm giving you two ones, Vegas,
02:28I'm getting your second-round pick.
02:30That would be a very early two.
02:32And I'd go with exactly, which is why I'd probably pivot and go with a three
02:36because I don't see the value there for Vegas if they're going to do that.
02:40But I also wonder how serious other teams are going to be about giving up two twos
02:45or two ones.
02:47And I think that, and I'm being asked this a lot, and Brian,
02:49you might have a better understanding of this,
02:51because the Cowboys have already agreed to give up the one next year.
02:55Right.
02:55And it's the higher of the two picks.
02:57Right.
02:57So could they say, you know what, screw it, we want Crosby,
03:00we'll give you 12, and we'll give you the lower of the ones next year.
03:04Are they allowed to do that, or can they not move the pick next year?
03:07No, I don't think they're frozen.
03:08They're frozen.
03:09See, that's a pickle that they're in then.
03:11Yeah.
03:11Right?
03:12So, I mean, I do want Max Crosby.
03:15And I'd go as high as 12, and I don't think another team in this race
03:18other than the Rams at 13 can offer you.
03:21None of the teams ahead of you, the top 11 teams, are not in on this,
03:24in my opinion.
03:25So I think 12 is going to be the highest pick they can get.
03:27Could Philadelphia offer them their pick and players?
03:30Sure.
03:30Could they give up their wide receiver and a pick?
03:32Yeah, and I thought Chicago was going to do that.
03:35I thought Chicago was going to offer a one, D.J. Moore, as part of a package.
03:39Now, they just traded D.J. Moore to Buffalo.
03:41But maybe Philly does.
03:42Maybe Philly jumps in here and says, we're going to give you a one,
03:45we're going to give you A.J. Brown, and they value A.J. Brown as a one and a two.
03:49Yeah.
03:49So, I mean, I don't know if the rest of the league does.
03:51To me, it's crazy that Howie Roseman thinks,
03:53we're going to get more for A.J. Brown now, four years older,
03:56than what they gave up to get him from Tennessee,
03:58which was just a first-round pick.
04:00Like, that's wild, but that's Howie, and I get it.
04:04So, I mean, it's...
04:05Doesn't really want to trade him.
04:06Exactly.
04:07It's tough for me to move both ones for Max at this point.
04:11Yeah, yeah, and I think the Raiders want to look good by getting two ones.
04:16Like, they don't want to be the guys that moved their fan favorite,
04:19and Max Crosby doesn't want to be the guy that's asking out.
04:23I don't know.
04:24The way Trey's report read to me was that some teams are now willing to give up two ones.
04:28Are you calling BS on Trey Wingo with us live at five?
04:31No, I'm not calling BS on Trey.
04:33I think Trey knows.
04:34And I think he's spot on, because I was getting...
04:36I didn't get it confirmed from anybody that I trust,
04:40but I had people reaching out saying the Cowboys are pushing really hard right now for Crosby.
04:45It was exciting last night.
04:46This thing's going to heat up in the next week.
04:48And, you know, Jane went ahead and echoed that, and now Trey did.
04:51So I think that Trey's saying they almost had a deal done.
04:55If they're going to pivot, maybe they did.
04:57Maybe they did get a call.
04:58But if that's the case, then why isn't the deal done, you know,
05:01with that other team that was going to offer two ones?
05:03So I don't know.
05:04Yeah, maybe they're trying to stretch the bidding war out and see if they ultimately can.
05:09Yeah, wait and see if they get another call.
05:11Because I bet right now a team in those 20s is saying, like, yeah, we'd love to get Max Crosby.
05:16Maybe it's Seattle, and they're offering 32, and next year's one.
05:20I mean, if you're the Raiders, would you take that right now?
05:23I want to see if that gets better.
05:25And we've really got to have a conversation.
05:26Like, if the Cowboys are offering 12, would you rather have 12 or the Seahawks one this year
05:31and their one next year?
05:32Or the Bears?
05:33You know, the Bears are, what, picking at 25, 26?
05:35And their first-rounder next year could be even worse than that.
05:39I think you could say that two ones looks better in headlines, but 12's the better value, isn't it?
05:45But that's what I think, and that's why I still think the Cowboys, unless it's 13 with the Rams,
05:49and the Rams are going to say, we'll give you 13, and we'll give you our one next year, which
05:52they would do.
05:53I mean, Les Snead is F10Pix guy.
05:55They're super aggressive.
05:56I thought this whole time it was Cowboys versus Rams, and I would probably bet on the Rams to get
06:01the deal done
06:02because they've proven to be the more aggressive of the two teams.
06:04Yeah, I love this meme that's going around to this graphic where over the last 10 years,
06:08their first-round picks, they've only picked one of them, and it was Jared Verse.
06:12They know what to do.
06:13They know what to do with those first-round picks.
06:14There's a lot of different ways to skin the cat.
06:16I'm envious of how Les Snead goes about his business, but it's cool.
06:21So the next thing is keep your first-rounders and get Trey Hendrickson, which is apparently what Trey Wiggo says.
06:27You said that a while back.
06:28I remember you were talking about that a while ago.
06:30Yeah, and I'm excited about either.
06:33I mean, you signed a Trey Hendrickson, and you draft a Reuben Bain now at 12, and you still have
06:3820.
06:39You know, this thing might have a higher upside than moving even one of your picks for Max Crosby,
06:45even though he's better and never comes off the field and plays the run equally well.
06:50And, you know, he's a better player.
06:52But Trey's still one of those guys that could go out there and get you 15 sacks next year
06:55and totally flip your dynamics in your favor.
06:59Okay.
07:00And I would even throw out Jalen Phillips, too.
07:03I mean, I know he's younger, and maybe he gets more money.
07:05And he's got the injury history, but he's got familiarity now in the Fangio-Parker kind of scheme,
07:11playing in Philadelphia for the second half of last year.
07:13He's younger.
07:14He's a better run defender than Trey Hendrickson.
07:17And despite the injury history, he's still a freak athlete,
07:20still has great explosiveness and all that kind of stuff.
07:22Yeah.
07:22So, like, those are options that are out there on the table.
07:24Parker obviously has great familiarity now with Phillips,
07:27so I'd be interested to know, like, how he feels about him.
07:30But Phillips would be a great addition, too.
07:32And the Cowboys are seriously considering allocating 30 APY on an edge.
07:37Anything's possible right now.
07:39Yeah, exactly.
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